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Swiss Ultimate
04-30-2010, 07:37 PM
Ric Flair was always the "dirtiest player in the game" even as a face but, that doesn't count.

Was there anyone who was either always a heel or always a face?

(Sting until TNA)

Jordan
04-30-2010, 07:42 PM
Steamboat

Next Big Thing
04-30-2010, 07:42 PM
In ring Warrior was a face. Business Warrior... definitely a heel. Rey Mysterio

Jordan
04-30-2010, 07:43 PM
I may be wrong but I don't remember Dusty Rhodes going heel... and I am just guessing but how about Tully Blanchard?

Ultimate Warrior was always a baby face....

Jordan
04-30-2010, 07:44 PM
Rey Mysterio

Well, in WCW he was heel with the Filthy Animals.

Dirk Ziggler
04-30-2010, 07:45 PM
Gillberg

Jordan
04-30-2010, 07:45 PM
Magnum TA was a big deal and I don't think he was ever heel.

Jordan
04-30-2010, 07:46 PM
I don't think Ted Diabiase ever played babyface

#1-norm-fan
04-30-2010, 07:49 PM
I don't think Ted Diabiase ever played babyface

He was a face in WCW after he left the NWO. Also, before the WWF days.

#1-norm-fan
04-30-2010, 07:53 PM
I think we had a topic like this years ago and could only come up with Ricky Steamoat as the only real long-term wrestler who was never a heel.

tjmidnight420
04-30-2010, 07:58 PM
Sting until TNA

Sting played a heel in WCW too...

Stealth-Icon
04-30-2010, 08:02 PM
I don't know that either Verne or Greg Gagne were ever heels.

Swiss Ultimate
04-30-2010, 08:13 PM
Sting played a heel in WCW too...

Really? What angle?

KIRA
04-30-2010, 08:21 PM
Sting played a heel in WCW too...

I remember that..I also recall it didnt go over well and he was turned back into a face within like a week

tjmidnight420
04-30-2010, 08:25 PM
Really? What angle?

Can't remember exactly the situation, but I think it was after everybody quit watching...

From Wikipedia:
In the early spring of 1999 Sting made a return on Nitro and then, at Spring Stampede (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Stampede#1999), fought against Hogan, Flair and DDP for the World Heavyweight Championship, with Randy Savage being the Special Guest Referee with Page winning the belt with a bit of help from Savage. On Nitro on the 12th of April, Sting pinned Ric Flair in one on one match. Then on Nitro on April 26, Sting defeated Page to win the World Heavyweight Championship, only to lose the title back to Page a little over an hour and a half later in the main event in a four-way match with a returning Kevin Nash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Nash) and Goldberg when Page pinned Nash, allowing him to win the title without beating Sting. This unsuccessful title defense ended the shortest title reign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WCW_World_Heavyweight_Champions) in WCW history. Sting had a feud with Goldberg and they ended up having a match at Slamboree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slamboree#1999) when they wrestled to a no-contest when both Rick Steiner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Steiner) and Scott Steiner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Steiner) both attacked Goldberg and Sting. It caused Rick Steiner and Sting to feud and wrestle to no-contest match at the Great American Bash when they both fought to the back and Sting got attacked by 3 dogs. The next night on Nitro, Sting saved Nash for being attacked by Sid Vicious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Eudy) and Savage. At the Bash At The Beach, Team Madness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Madness) defeated Kevin Nash and Sting in a tag team match where Savage won the World Title. On the July 19 Nitro, Sting defeated Ric Flair to became the President of WCW.
Sting then teased a heel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_%28professional_wrestling%29) turn, as he was questioning Hogan's trustworthiness and credibility in the coming weeks to Fall Brawl. At the pay-per-view, Sting defeated Hogan for the World Title after accepting help from Luger and attacking Hogan with a baseball bat, thus turning heel. Sting's heel turn and subsequent attitude change did not go over well with fans.<sup id="cite_ref-StingTimeline_3-17" class="reference">[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_%28wrestler%29#cite_note-StingTimeline-3)</sup> They still cheered him despite the fact that he was supposed to be the bad guy. At Halloween Havoc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Havoc#1999) Sting retained the title against Hogan after Hogan arrived to the ring in street clothes and merely laid down for a 3-count but promptly lost an unsanctioned match to Goldberg at end of the night. Sting attacked the referee Charles Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Robinson_%28referee%29) after the match. Sting was stripped of the title the next night on Nitro because of his attack on the referee. Sting was given the opportunity to regain the title in a 32-man title tournament. He reached the semi-finals after he defeated Brian Knobbs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Knobbs), Meng (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita) and Lex Luger but lost to Bret Hart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Hart) at Mayhem when Luger came to the ring and hit Sting with the baseball bat. This turned Sting back into a face and began a feud between him and Luger. Sting defeated Luger at Starrcade by disqualification when Elizabeth hit Sting with a baseball bat in his jaw and Luger attacked with a steel chair and the bat and putting Sting out for the rest of the year.

Vastardikai
04-30-2010, 08:27 PM
They tried to retcon EVERYTHING in that past 5 years as to him being behind, including the Fake Sting.

I was NEVER a Sting fan. However, I knew they were beating me over the head with horseshit, so I changed the channel.

tjmidnight420
04-30-2010, 08:28 PM
I remember that..I also recall it didnt go over well and he was turned back into a face within like a week

Wiki says he was off TV before they got to cancel the angle, and didn't come back until the final Nitro...

kareru
04-30-2010, 09:03 PM
jeff hardy, he was a tweener when he was in the new brood but has been face for years with no turning back

Next Big Thing
04-30-2010, 09:05 PM
I may be wrong but I don't remember Dusty Rhodes going heel... and I am just guessing but how about Tully Blanchard?

Ultimate Warrior was always a baby face....

Dusty was NWO.

Perry Saturn
04-30-2010, 09:07 PM
vince russo :shifty:

Next Big Thing
04-30-2010, 09:14 PM
David Arquette was face his whole career.

kareru
04-30-2010, 09:17 PM
David Arquette was face his whole career.

lol actually he did a heel turn to help jj win the title over ddp

Joesgonnakillyou
04-30-2010, 09:48 PM
RVD was supposed to be a heel in the invasion, but everyone cheered him anyway, does that count?

Jordan
04-30-2010, 09:59 PM
RVD was heel in ECW

erickman
04-30-2010, 10:03 PM
was'nt maven on the old list too him an steamboat

Jordan
04-30-2010, 10:04 PM
Maven wrestled both heel and face. And he isn't really a "major" name.

Swiss Ultimate
04-30-2010, 10:04 PM
Can't remember exactly the situation, but I think it was after everybody quit watching...

From Wikipedia:
In the early spring of 1999 Sting made a return on Nitro and then, at Spring Stampede (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Stampede#1999), fought against Hogan, Flair and DDP for the World Heavyweight Championship, with Randy Savage being the Special Guest Referee with Page winning the belt with a bit of help from Savage. On Nitro on the 12th of April, Sting pinned Ric Flair in one on one match. Then on Nitro on April 26, Sting defeated Page to win the World Heavyweight Championship, only to lose the title back to Page a little over an hour and a half later in the main event in a four-way match with a returning Kevin Nash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Nash) and Goldberg when Page pinned Nash, allowing him to win the title without beating Sting. This unsuccessful title defense ended the shortest title reign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WCW_World_Heavyweight_Champions) in WCW history. Sting had a feud with Goldberg and they ended up having a match at Slamboree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slamboree#1999) when they wrestled to a no-contest when both Rick Steiner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Steiner) and Scott Steiner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Steiner) both attacked Goldberg and Sting. It caused Rick Steiner and Sting to feud and wrestle to no-contest match at the Great American Bash when they both fought to the back and Sting got attacked by 3 dogs. The next night on Nitro, Sting saved Nash for being attacked by Sid Vicious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Eudy) and Savage. At the Bash At The Beach, Team Madness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Madness) defeated Kevin Nash and Sting in a tag team match where Savage won the World Title. On the July 19 Nitro, Sting defeated Ric Flair to became the President of WCW.
Sting then teased a heel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_%28professional_wrestling%29) turn, as he was questioning Hogan's trustworthiness and credibility in the coming weeks to Fall Brawl. At the pay-per-view, Sting defeated Hogan for the World Title after accepting help from Luger and attacking Hogan with a baseball bat, thus turning heel. Sting's heel turn and subsequent attitude change did not go over well with fans.<sup id="cite_ref-StingTimeline_3-17" class="reference">[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_%28wrestler%29#cite_note-StingTimeline-3)</sup> They still cheered him despite the fact that he was supposed to be the bad guy. At Halloween Havoc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Havoc#1999) Sting retained the title against Hogan after Hogan arrived to the ring in street clothes and merely laid down for a 3-count but promptly lost an unsanctioned match to Goldberg at end of the night. Sting attacked the referee Charles Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Robinson_%28referee%29) after the match. Sting was stripped of the title the next night on Nitro because of his attack on the referee. Sting was given the opportunity to regain the title in a 32-man title tournament. He reached the semi-finals after he defeated Brian Knobbs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Knobbs), Meng (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita) and Lex Luger but lost to Bret Hart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Hart) at Mayhem when Luger came to the ring and hit Sting with the baseball bat. This turned Sting back into a face and began a feud between him and Luger. Sting defeated Luger at Starrcade by disqualification when Elizabeth hit Sting with a baseball bat in his jaw and Luger attacked with a steel chair and the bat and putting Sting out for the rest of the year.

That is some pretty convoluted shit.

I like the part where Sting gets attacked by 3 dogs.

erickman
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
Maven wrestled both heel and face. And he isn't really a "major" name.

he must have become a heel after the old list was made, but mag ta he might not have had a chance to heel up.

ROHFan21
05-01-2010, 01:33 AM
I may be wrong but I don't remember Dusty Rhodes going heel...

I don't know if this counts but Dusty Rhodes actually started his career as a heel teaming with Dick Murdoch then turned face after a misunderstanding with Tag Team Partner Pak Song

Vastardikai
05-01-2010, 12:01 PM
I don't know if this counts but Dusty Rhodes actually started his career as a heel teaming with Dick Murdoch then turned face after a misunderstanding with Tag Team Partner Pak Song

Texas Outlaws, FTW

AKin3D
05-01-2010, 01:13 PM
jeff hardy, he was a tweener when he was in the new brood but has been face for years with no turning back

But the Hardys were heels when they were with Michael Hayes.

DAMN iNATOR
05-02-2010, 09:40 AM
he must have become a heel after the old list was made, but mag ta he might not have had a chance to heel up.

Maven's heel turn came pretty late in his career, on Nov. 29th, 2004 to be exact. So he had about a 7-month run as a heel.

Supreme Olajuwon
05-02-2010, 11:20 AM
Rick Rude I believe was always a heel.

The Franchise
05-02-2010, 02:12 PM
Maven wrestled both heel and face. And he isn't really a "major" name.

I love Maven as much as the next guy, but he isn't even a "medium" name

Jakob Synn
05-02-2010, 06:32 PM
I've never really appreciated wrestlers who haven't played both a face and heel at one point in their careers.

I think that's one of the main reasons I don't like Jeff Hardy. Yes I know, he was heel with the Brood back in the day, but I don't really count that.

Same goes for Rey Mysterio. He's always face and it annoys me, though I've never really liked him.

Savio
05-03-2010, 10:11 PM
he must have become a heel after the old list was made, but mag ta he might not have had a chance to heel up.Yeah I remmeber making this threads years back he was on the list with linda....but she turned heel aswell.

Sixx
05-03-2010, 11:47 PM
Was Sammartino ever a heel?

RiX1024
05-07-2010, 05:25 AM
Rick Rude I believe was always a heel.

Was he a face during his feud with Shane Douglas in ECW?

Lavel
05-07-2010, 11:42 AM
Was Sammartino ever a heel?

I don't think he ever was. I was watching a interview he did with a news station out of Pittsburgh, and he said that he wanted to be such a good role model that if he was in a restaurant and he was offered a drink if there was a kid also in the restaurant he would not accept it. He said he didn't want to set a bad example for the kids. Anyone that cares that much was always a face.

Swiss Ultimate
05-07-2010, 01:05 PM
I've never really appreciated wrestlers who haven't played both a face and heel at one point in their careers.

I think that's one of the main reasons I don't like Jeff Hardy. Yes I know, he was heel with the Brood back in the day, but I don't really count that.

Same goes for Rey Mysterio. He's always face and it annoys me, though I've never really liked him.

I don't mind it. I have a problem with multiple turns in the same year.

Seth82
05-07-2010, 02:36 PM
Dusty Rhodes was a heel in the early 70's with Dick Murdoch as The Texas Outlaws

Sting was also a heel early on in his career when he teamed with U.Warrior as The Blade Runners

Ted Dibiase was face for a long time before his WWF stint

Autobahn
05-10-2010, 04:56 AM
The question would work for newer active wrestlers, like Sheamus.

Volare
05-11-2010, 03:03 PM
Honky Tonk Man?

Swiss Ultimate
05-11-2010, 05:07 PM
The question would work for newer active wrestlers, like Sheamus.

I think that Sheamus worked as a face before coming to the WWE.

Fox
05-15-2010, 03:14 AM
Not a wrestler, but Linda McMahon has never been portrayed as a heel, while all the other McMahons have done both.

Also, I don't recall Chris Kanyon ever playing face, but I could be wrong on that (and I guess he's not a "big wrestler").

The Franchise
05-15-2010, 05:10 AM
Speaking of non-wrestlers, has JR ever been heel?

Loose Cannon
05-15-2010, 08:47 AM
lol yes as a matter of fact. a terrible heel turn around 96.

But we did get one of the most memorable lines of all-time out of it in "He broke by dam table"

Loose Cannon
05-15-2010, 08:51 AM
Kanyon was babyface in WCW when he feuded with Raven briefly.

Oh and Linda was a heel Fox. It was a couple years back when all 4 were heels

Loose Cannon
05-15-2010, 08:52 AM
sorry, just glancing up at the one's as I go. Honky Tonk was a babyface when he first started WWF believe it or not. This led to the double turn with Jake Roberts

Johnny Vegas
05-15-2010, 11:56 AM
I've appreciated wrestlers who were faces or heel during the majority (if not all) of their careers because that is something that is VERY hard to do. Switching from a heel to face back to heel and so on is something that "freshens" your character. I respect characters like Steamboat because it never got to the point where fans "boo'd" him. Idk, thats just my two cents.

Jakob Synn
05-15-2010, 04:23 PM
Speaking of non-wrestlers, has JR ever been heel?

Like Santa Claus, JR could never be a heel. It's just not in his DNA.

Zeeboe
05-15-2010, 06:43 PM
Bobby Heenan.

Loose Cannon
05-15-2010, 07:58 PM
Like Santa Claus, JR could never be a heel. It's just not in his DNA.

please look a couple posts above you. Heel in 96. Santa was also a heel in the WWF. Again in 96

The Franchise
05-15-2010, 11:42 PM
lol heel Santa

what about Rey mysterio? Wait he was in WCW I think.... can't remember.

Loose Cannon
05-16-2010, 12:42 PM
yep, heel in WCW. Horrible heel. he can't play one

The Franchise
05-16-2010, 06:19 PM
Yeah Rey should never be a heel. The only way I can see him being a good heel is if he's the little dickhead leader of a group. He can call all the shots but he is protected by two huge guys all the time ala Spike Dudley in 2004(05 maybe).