You Win This Round, PC...

[Kane Knight]

http://gizmodo.com/5593116/were-pc-gamers-too-good-for-microsofts-cross+platform-gaming-project

Were PC Gamers Too Good For Microsoft's Cross-Platform Gaming Project? (http://gizmodo.com/5593116/were-pc-gamers-too-good-for-microsofts-cross+platform-gaming-project)

<!-- google_ad_section_start --> http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/07/500x_mousevscontroller2-2.jpg (http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/07/mousevscontroller2-2.jpg)Rahul Sood, Voodoo PC (http://gizmodo.com/5053392/is-hp-shutting-down-voodoopc) founder and current CTO of gaming at HP, spins an interesting yarn (http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html) about an aborted Microsoft project that would've let PC and Xbox gamers face-off. The only problem? During testing, the PC gamers cleaned Xboxers' clocks.
In the middle of a rumination on the lukewarm state of PC gaming, Sood divulges some details of a project Microsoft was working on "many many months ago" to let PC and Xbox users face off in games like Gears of War and Unreal Tournament, an effort that would've effectively bridged the gap between Xbox Live and Windows Live.
Sadly for the project, the fight wasn't exactly a fair one:
I've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their "console" controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse.
The console players got destroyed every time. So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative.
That's not entirely surprising to anyone who's fragged on both platforms—Matt Buchanan says "i'd slaughter anybody using a controller if i had a keyboard and mouse"—but it's interesting nevertheless to hear just how thoroughly the Xbox gamers supposedly got their asses whooped. [Rahul Sood (http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html) via CrunchGear (http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/21/did-microsoft-kill-xbox-livewindows-live-cross-platform-play-because-console-gamers-were-too-bad/)]
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[Kane Knight]

I know this may not be true, but it did make me laugh. Boast about your superior skills, PC players!

[Emperor Smeat]

Which games currently are cross-mulitplayer platform, just Unreal Tournament III (PS3 vs PC) ?

[Verbose Minch]

Shadowrun for 360 was, I believe.

Anyways, it's not skill. It's like having access to a better controller. Mouse and keyboard just make it easier to aim.

[alvarado52]

Could be accurate. A mouse/keyboard combo can lead to quick responses (aiming in FPS, macros) than any controller at the moment. Still though, i'd rather not pay a thousand dollars every year or two to upgrade in order to play a game. I'll stick to consoles.

[IC Champion]

I always found it harder to use the keyboard and mouse vs the controller.

[Kane Knight]

I always found it harder to use the keyboard and mouse vs the controller.

Are you playing games with no aim assist, though? Most console games have it.

I don't really play a lot of shooters, but that much I know.

[Gonzo]

Personally, I would take a mouse and keyboard over a controller any day of the week.

[Nervous Ferret]

Controller? I hardly even know her!

[G]

we just don't have da l33t skilz yo

[Boomer]

I put a friend of mine on TF2 on the PC with a 360 controller who played a ton of Halo and Modern Warfare, and he did amazingly well with the Sniper class. If you put him in front of a keyboard and mouse, he basically just got really frustrated and had to go back to a controller.

Mind you, Sniper is probably the easiest thing to play with a controller, but there are people in the world that are just as used to a controller as most of us are to keyboard and mouse.

[IC Champion]

PC gamers are fags anyways.

[LoDownM]

Still though, i'd rather not pay a thousand dollars every year or two to upgrade in order to play a game. I'll stick to consoles.

Not even true. My computer is going on 6 years old and can still play most games that came out recently. The whole two year upgrade thing is bull, if you buy the right stuff you are good for way longer then that.

[G]

Not even true. My computer is going on 6 years old and can still play most games that came out recently.


You haven't upgraded a single thing?

[LoDownM]

Aside from bigger harddrives, case fans, and monitor, no.

[Kane Knight]

Personally, I would take a mouse and keyboard over a controller any day of the week.

I like the mouse part, but I hate the keyboard.

Aside from bigger harddrives, case fans, and monitor, no.

As someone who upgrades my friends' PCs for them for just this reason, I call bullshit.

[LoDownM]

It's not, aside from 300 more gigs of space, NOTHING has changed in my computer that would increase performance in 5 years.

[G]

What is the latest new release you've played?

[alvarado52]

Not even true. My computer is going on 6 years old and can still play most games that came out recently. The whole two year upgrade thing is bull, if you buy the right stuff you are good for way longer then that.

well, my Xbox is about the same and can play all games that came out recently for the xbox 360.

[LoDownM]

What is the latest new release you've played?

Supreme Commander 2. Which my chip doesn't meet the min. reqs to play. Box: 2.6ghz My chip: 2.0ghz

[Kane Knight]

It's not, aside from 300 more gigs of space, NOTHING has changed in my computer that would increase performance in 5 years.

Still calling bullshit.

[LoDownM]

Call what you want. I might not be able to play with all the graphic settings on high, but I can still do medium on some.

[Kane Knight]

I'm sure you can, sweetheart.

[Kane Knight]

"medium on some." :lol:

[Extreme Angle]

I have a pretty neat PC but don't use it for gaming really. Used to WoW and Crysis but that's it

[Kane Knight]

Can you play "medium" on "some" games, EA?

[BigDaddyCool]

I like Zoo Tycoon.

[RP]

"medium on some." :lol:

yah that killed me lol


this article is bullshit btw.

[Requiem]

:wtf: I have a 5 year old PC that can run Crysis on high. The only upgrade it got was an extra 2GB of RAM a year after I bought it, and it can still play most newer games on a combination of medium/high settings. I used some existing parts and some new ones when I built it and it only cost $450-500 including the cost of a 22" monitor. (after RAM)

Don't see how it is so hard to believe that an old PC is capable of running modern games. Oh, I forgot... You've built computers for your friends so that makes you an expert. :roll:

[G]

That's a sexy 22" monitor you've got

[Kane Knight]

Don't see how it is so hard to believe that an old PC is capable of running modern games. Oh, I forgot... You've built computers for your friends so that makes you an expert. :roll:
And since I'm the only one doubting this, your spazzout is completely logical.

Is there any element of gaming where you don't go from 0 to Jihad in 2 seconds?

[jcmoorehead]

I wouldn't doubt an older PC might be capable of running some modern games especially if when built they bought the best of the best at the time but I do think that even in that case they'd probably stuggle to run them anywhere outside of the minimum settings.

My own PC is now about 5 years old, last year it had it's first significant upgrade because I could only play new releases on the lowest graphics settings. I ended up adding another 2 gig of Ram, replacing the graphics card and overclocking the processor. Now it's capable of running anything new on the maximum settings but it took quite an expensive upgrade to do it.

[Requiem]

lol how is that post anywhere near a spazz out? It's me stating how incorrect you are by trying to tout your "computer knowledge", and citing an example of why you are wrong. I didn't realize it was so easy for you to pop a boner at the opportunity to troll someone. And the only other one even remotely going along with you is RP, and I'd barely call him an expert on anything except black cock.

[Kane Knight]

And you go immediately to crying about trolling.

I suppose it beats your usual response, which would be something like "PCs are perfect and an apple 2E can play the newest releases! You just suck at computing."

Although you're pretty damn close.

[Requiem]

And you go immediately to crying about trolling.

I suppose it beats your usual response, which would be something like "PCs are perfect and an apple 2E can play the newest releases! You just suck at computing."

Although you're pretty damn close.

lol get out of here. It's like you're not even trying, pulling 'examples' out of your ass and claiming them as my opinion when I've not taken stances anywhere near that. Getting pretty defensive about being called a troll, huh? Probably because that's exactly what you were doing, and you've been called on it again. That must just burn your asshole, doesn't it?

You were proven wrong, and you instantly jumped on the offensive instead of defending your point, because you knew you'd been called on your bullshit attempt to sound smarter than LoDown.

JUST SAYIN. Douchebag.