Why do people love those wrestling games from N64?

[The Naitch]

Like the No Mercy, Thunder games. Even to this day, it's still highly considered one of the best all around wrestling games ever.

Is it because of the grappling system gameplay?

FILL ME IN. I NEVER PLAYED THESE BEFORE

Q&A FORUM ASSHOLE!!!!

[VSG]

Ok is someone editing your posts or are you high?

[The Naitch]

HIGH ON HEROIN

[Eklipse]

No Mercy is the 2nd best wrestling game ever (next to SmackDown: Here Comes the Pain)
They were easy to pick up and play...
There were no combinations of 5 buttons to do a simple move.
The career mode wasn't as linear as the games now.
AND it was the Attitude Era...so there ya go.

[voncouch]

It's hard to explain if you've never played them for yourself, but here goes nothing:

One of those "Minute to learn, lifetime to master" sort of deals. They were just so easy to play, but not simplistic. There was a wide variety of moves, but they were all easy to pull off. The matches were fun, especially the Royal Rumble and Ladder Match. The rosters were huge, you could edit the moves. The create-a-wrestler was simple, but fun. And I think the biggest draw of them all: you and 3 other people could just pick up the sticks and go at it. No Mercy is my favorite wrestling game of all time, 2nd to only Goldeneye for favorite of all time.

[teamXtremist]

yeah i can remeber some old wrestlemania ones for the super nintendo that were badass but no mercy was crunk dont know why but played the shit outta it

[JimmyMess]

dic dic diggity dic diggity dawg

Best loading music for WWF No Mercy... doesn't serve a purpose but it was in my head when I saw this thread.

As for the games, they were so easy to use, yet challenging for the time (if you played expert mode). A combination of the time, the popularity of the 4-person n64 console, wrestling as a pop-culture phenomenon all lead to these games being marked as instant classics.

[Xero]

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[The Naitch]

lol at dic dic diggity dawg

Just that in itself makes it an instant classic

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

SOCKO!!!

SMACKDOWN MALL!!!

Please don't mention WCW Thunder the game in the same sentence as No Mercy. Thunder is the reason we have the shitty Hulk Hogan TNA nWo-sound a like theme.

[Chavo Classic]

The storyline mode wasn't great. To complete to whole picture you'd have to occassionally lose matches on purpose. Even then you weren't sure which matches you need to throw.

The game was tits though. The visuals were great, and the music was exceptional for a console game.

[Xero]

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[RatedGSuperstar]

The writing in the storyline mode was sort of hokey, with every sentence ending in "!!", but it was still fun.

My favorite part was that once you got the spirit meter up, you had a good 10 seconds or so to hit the finisher more than once, rather than just hitting it once and having to build back up again. You could Stone Cold Stunner someone like 5 times before it ran out. Not realistic, but crazy fun.

[Domino]

This thread is so appropriate.

I just found my N64 about a month ago and ordered No Mercy online.

I've been on a No Mercy trip ever since.

[Emperor Smeat]

Too bad after No Mercy, THQ dropped AKI as a wrestling game developer which also meant they couldn't use the AKI engine anymore for non-Smackdown games.

Back then wrestling games were special in that the Playstation got its own engine and game style while the N64 had its own engine and style which gave both series a unqiue feeling to them.

I hated how the Gamecube versions tried to mimic the "Smackdown" style instead of continuing the Revenge/Wrestlemania style although they did fix it by the time of the Day of Reckoning games. Then THQ scrapped the DoR engine just to keep the Smackdown engine for all consoles.

[Juan]

I'll never understand how the Smackdown engine still sells after pretty much staying the same for 10 years.

[JimmyMess]

I unfortunately no longer have my n64, but I totally downloaded the rom for the computer and I constantly play No Mercy, WrestleMania, and WCW/nWo Revenge. Just epic.

Especially when you would do the battle royals or royal rumble, and the unlockable characters would show up (ie Andre) and all the boys would "WHOAA" and all that fun shit!

[VSG]

My first WWE game was WWE:Raw from 2002. No storylines, all action:

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For the Steve Blackman fans:

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[Xero]

Who was doing the announcing for that game? Wasn't Lilian.

[VSG]

Not sure. The game had no in-game commentary or any storylines and so voices were not big in the game.

[The Naitch]

http://www.forbes.com/images/2000/11/14/claudia_400_290.jpg

I like this arcade_style look

[BollywoodSingh]

I thought the gameplay for the old THQ N64 games were a lot more realistic than the new games. Like the way the moves were performed, it wasn't at fast paced as the current games. Made it more realistic IMO.

No Mercy or WCW/nWo Revenge are my favourite wrestling games ever. Revenge would be #1 if they had a story mode. I loved Revenge because there were so many different wrestling styles in that one.

I bought an N64 with No Mercy last year for $50.

[Xero]

I say that the DOR games were better than the N64 games. They were basically the evolution of the N64 games' game play.

[Kalyx triaD]

Honestly, DoR2 was fucking epic. The SvR series is only now doing big things.

No Mercy
DoR2
HCTP
SvR '10

The epic four as far as I'm concerned.

[Schlomey]

Schlomey wishes he owned a 64 again :(

[Sixx]

Like the No Mercy, Thunder games. Even to this day, it's still highly considered one of the best all around wrestling games ever.

Is it because of the grappling system gameplay?

FILL ME IN. I NEVER PLAYED THESE BEFORE

Q&A FORUM ASSHOLE!!!!

Thunder was horrible and nothing like No Mercy.

[screech]

I say that the DOR games were better than the N64 games. They were basically the evolution of the N64 games' game play.

I need to play me one of those.

[Furious Beardsley]

Anyone remember WCW Mayhem or WCW Nitro? Those games were awful.

WCW/NWO Revenge, No Mercy, are the greatest though.

[James Steele]

WWF RAW was horrible and everybody walked like they were sitting on a pole.

WWE Raw 2 was pretty good, but it had this horrible glitch where your opponent would just stomp you and never let you get up. Ruined a potentially great game.

[Droford]

I like WCW/NWO Revenge more than No Mercy for some reason

[Juan]

Anyone remember WCW Mayhem or WCW Nitro? Those games were awful.

WCW/NWO Revenge, No Mercy, are the greatest though.

WCW Nitro wasn't that bad. It was pretty much a precursor to the more popular THQ/AKI games.

[whiteyford]

Bought an N64 last week, got WCW/NWO revenge and wrestlemania 2000 with it, wish the rosters were as deep nowadays. Took literaly minutes to pick up the basic controls.

[RiX1024]

I only have Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW Revenge, wish i could get No Mercy as well. I'll stick with my PS3.

[Sixx]

No Mercy was never released here, but to this day I have Wrestlemania 2000 and Revenge.

Played No Mercy using an emulator only.

And Nitro and Thunder were very similar, both were awful. So was Mayhem. Oh, and Backstage Assault.

[Shadrick]

dic dic diggity dic diggity dawg

Best loading music for WWF No Mercy... doesn't serve a purpose but it was in my head when I saw this thread.

As for the games, they were so easy to use, yet challenging for the time (if you played expert mode). A combination of the time, the popularity of the 4-person n64 console, wrestling as a pop-culture phenomenon all lead to these games being marked as instant classics.

socko.


...is cookin.

[Hanso Amore]

There was a move where you did 5 power bombs straight and then rolled it into a Death Valley Driver.

Nuff Said.

[Lock Jaw]

The N64 games were amazing because they were so simple to pick up and play, and were actually fun. I find wrestling games these days just too damn complex. And forget about trying to create a wrestler nowadays. I don't have the patience for that, especially all this "stats" BS.

I remember even non-wrestling fans got into the wrestling games. Had a friend who hated wrestling, but for some reason he got WCW/nWo World Tour when it came out, and I remember that the first thing we did was have an epic match that was almost an hour long. I was Sting. Don't remember who my friend was.

[bigslimjj]

because they were fuckin sweet!

[Lock Jaw]

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Is the most epic intro ever.

[The Naitch]

lol

[Testicle]

AKI Man owns.

[Sixx]

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Is the most epic intro ever.

Wrestlemania 2000 had a bad-ass intro as well.

Basically love intros made using in-game graphics.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, pretty much agree with what was said. I never could really get into the Smackdown stuff after playing those games. My bro needs to give me back my fucking N64.

[Dave Youell]

No Mercy is still the best wrestling game ever made

[Lock Jaw]

No Mercy is awesome because you can throw a giant wedge of cheese at somebody.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Honestly, DoR2 was fucking epic. The SvR series is only now doing big things.

No Mercy
DoR2
HCTP
SvR '10

The epic four as far as I'm concerned.

I know we've been starved of WWE games lately, but come on now. Mentioning SDvRaw'10 with that company is like putting "leg stab wound" in a list of best sensations


WCW Nitro wasn't that bad. It was pretty much a precursor to the more popular THQ/AKI games.

You sure you're not getting Nitro mixed up with WCW Vs The World? Nitro was the one where you pressed square then x to powerbomb and triangle then circle to piledrive and repeat until you win.

[Xero]

The only good thing to come out of Nitro and Thunder were the rants.

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[Cool King]

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[Kalyx triaD]

I know we've been starved of WWE games lately, but come on now. Mentioning SDvRaw'10 with that company is like putting "leg stab wound" in a list of best sensations

I never jived with the notion that the best things are old things. SvR '10 was awesome.

[Sepholio]

WCW/nWo revenge was fucking incredible. Played the SHIT out of that game for years.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

my list of of n64 wrestling games so far
WWF No Mercy
WWF Warzone
WCW Nitro
WCW/NWO World Tour

im going to order Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW/NWO revenge soon and also WWF Attitude online

[Juan]

You sure you're not getting Nitro mixed up with WCW Vs The World? Nitro was the one where you pressed square then x to powerbomb and triangle then circle to piledrive and repeat until you win.

ahh, right you are.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

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:rofl:

[El Fangel]

Gotta say, DoR and DoR2 were the best in my opinion, then No Mercy then HCTP.

[James Steele]

I really liked WWF Attitude because of the presentation and customizable stages.

[Tom Guycott]

Back to the No Mercy menu music, I used to be convinced it was supposed to be some remix of The Rock's theme that got scrapped, so it became a production theme that was picked up by the programmers. Kinda like how the old Hardcore/Crash/Molly Holly theme is used in Spike TV bumps, or the 1st WWE Shane Helms theme was used in a commercial for Yu-gi-oh.

[Furious Beardsley]

I was a fan of the ECW Hardcore Revolution game. Wasn't the greatest, but was still fun, wasn't it the first wrestling game where the blood actually pooled a little bit and hung around? I remember going to town on people with a cheese grater.

[Favre4Ever]

though limited somewhat, the "Create a Character" for No Mercy was a lot of fun.

[James Steele]

How was it limited? It took at least an hour or so to create a guy. Yeah, you couldn't select a guys fucking nose hair angles like in the SD! games, but it was pretty damn in-depth.

[RatedGSuperstar]

I loved that when you made someone tap out, you heard the opponent go "AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!" and bones cracking. Liontamer FTW.

[Sixx]

I loved that when you made someone tap out, you heard the opponent go "AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!" and bones cracking. Liontamer FTW.

Haha, yeah, that shit was brilliant.

Also, you could bust people open, which I loved in Revenge, sadly Wrestlemania 2000 was censored in Europe and there was no blood at all.

[Poit]

No Mercy is awesome because you can throw a giant wedge of cheese at somebody.

And roses!

[The Jayman]

I always liked using the giant "STOP" sign in Revenge

[BizarroKing]

Played WCW Thunder a lot but took a while to get the hang of.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Honestly, DoR2 was fucking epic. The SvR series is only now doing big things.

No Mercy
DoR2
HCTP
SvR '10

The epic four as far as I'm concerned.

Recently went out and got a GameCube with DoR 2. Had completely forgotten how much fun DoR 1 and 2 are, and WWE WrestleMania XIX gave us the Paint Tool for the first time in a WWE game for creating custom logos for C-A-W's, which continued with the DoR 1 and 2 C-A-W system and went on to spawn a similar, if not identical feature for C-A-W's in SvR '09 and '10 and most likely '11 as well.

[XL]

Ah, good times.

Used to love 4 player Royal Rumbles. Or taking OTTR off and putting pins/submissions/KO's on and having an epic Guantlet Battle Royal with my friends back in the day. There would be so many instances of ganging up on someone or getting revenge for an elimination.

I still have my N64 and No Mercy/Revenge. Feel like giving them a "spin".

[XL]

Recently went out and got a GameCube with DoR 2. Had completely forgotten how much fun DoR 1 and 2 are, and WWE WrestleMania XIX gave us the Paint Tool for the first time in a WWE game for creating custom logos for C-A-W's, which continued with the DoR 1 and 2 C-A-W system and went on to spawn a similar, if not identical feature for C-A-W's in SvR '09 and '10 and most likely '11 as well.
Which one had you fighting henchmen on top of buildings in the story mode? WTF was that about?

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

Which one had you fighting henchmen on top of buildings in the story mode? WTF was that about?

it was Wrestlemania XIX

[The Naitch]

I havent pressed played on that Ahmed Johnson clip, but I know it's LOL worthy. Gonna save myself the trouble