Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy [Archive]

Buzzkill

10-04-2010, 02:23 PM

Has anybody else been following Kanye's GOOD Fridays?

He's been releasing a new song every Friday for free and is gonna keep going until Christmas. They've all been pretty ridiculous so far.

ANYWAY, I am pretty sure his upcoming album is going to be one of the best hip-hop/pop albums of all time. Apparently the stuff he's been releasing has been throwaway trash compared to the rest of it.

Not sure where this thread is going, but just wanna say that if you hate Kanye West you need to grow up

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Power Remix: http://content.onsmash.com/archives/43438

So Appalled: http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/09/24/kanye-west-so-appalled-f-jay-z-rza-pusha-t-swizz-beatz-cyhi-da-prynce/

Monster: http://stereogum.com/489352/kanye-west-monster-feat-bon-iver-jay-z-rick-ross-nicki-minaj/mp3s/

Kris P Lettus

10-04-2010, 02:34 PM

That first song is absolute garbage..

Second and third are aiight..

CSL

10-04-2010, 02:44 PM

Why would somebody need to 'grow the fuck up' if they 'hate Kanye West'?

Jeritron

10-04-2010, 02:51 PM

I loved Kanye West's first three albums, and a bunch of his early mixtapes. I was a big fan since he first broke out, but none of this impresses me. Nor does that single I've been hearing around.
I didn't think very much of the last album either. Last good thing I heard from him was a verse on the Jay Z album, and before that...Graduation.

Buzzkill

10-04-2010, 02:59 PM

AGREE TO DISAGREE

Kris P Lettus

10-04-2010, 03:04 PM

He is a great producer and a decent MC, but his personality makes me never want to spend money on his music..

Buzzkill

10-04-2010, 03:09 PM

He is a great producer and a decent MC, but his personality makes me never want to spend money on his music..
This we can agree on.

I used to be the biggest Kanye hater ever until I started listening through his CDs and realized he only makes good songs

Jeritron

10-05-2010, 03:16 AM

He is extremely talented, but he makes some bad songs here and there. Barry Bonds anyone?

I don't know. Pretty much have no interest in most of what he's done recently since I know he's capable of much better.
Hopefully he can come out with an album on par with those first 3

Buzzkill

10-07-2010, 02:48 PM

OK yeah Barry Bonds is a pretty crappy song. That's pretty much it though :(

Savio

10-07-2010, 04:37 PM

Love the song "Runaway"

Buzzkill

10-07-2010, 05:13 PM

Also how can you hate on Lost in the World? One of my favorite Kanye songs ever and it's not even done yet

Johnny Vegas

10-08-2010, 12:10 AM

lol decent MC...hope you aren't comparing him to some of these "up-and-coming" MCs. J.Cole is the best new thing this year IMO.

Buzzkill

10-08-2010, 12:24 AM

Kanye is a decent MC, nothing more. But he is a phenomenal producer

Funky Fly

10-08-2010, 04:48 AM

Lost in the World is great for an unfinished work. Could see that getting huge.

Funky Fly

10-08-2010, 04:57 AM

Love Good Friday also.

EDIT - just realized the beat sounds like a working of Just a Friend by Biz Markie

The Naitch

10-08-2010, 08:40 PM

I don't know, but I can't stand Kanye. I think he's overrated.

I liked his first album, if anything. I never really saw what was so great about those songs from 808s' and Heartbreak

Funky Fly

10-09-2010, 01:47 AM

808 had its moments, but it was mostly just ricockulous autotuned warbling about how depressed he was at the time. I mean, I understand it was a bad time with his marriage falling apart before it happened and his mom dying and all, and I feel for him there, but he was not in the right frame of mind at all when he made that. Very lackluster.

Downunder

10-09-2010, 05:00 AM

I don't like Kanye - fuck off :foc:

Funky Fly

10-09-2010, 05:15 AM

He is a ridiculous cunt who got in the talent line twice instead of heading to the personality line like everyone else after getting his talent.

Downunder

10-09-2010, 08:19 AM

Word Funky.

and because he is such a fucking cock I can't be bothered with his music

The Naitch

10-09-2010, 05:52 PM

don't like his voice and his constant talking about Louis Vuitton

mitch_h

10-09-2010, 08:10 PM

I like his music, his lyrics are pretty cheesy but atleast they are honest and fun. I've always thought of him more of a pop artist than a rapper though, he is the master of a good hook. I think it's pretty cool that he can sample bands like Can and King Crimson and apply it to his style of music, looking forward to his new album.

Buzzkill

11-09-2010, 08:54 PM

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/45342/232350

Buzzkill

11-09-2010, 09:23 PM

Just got this shit. Kanye's best album and maybe my favorite album of the year.

The Naitch

11-10-2010, 12:28 AM

what's up with his singing on Runaway w/ Pusha T? Sounds like a dog who just got run over

Buzzkill

11-10-2010, 02:04 AM

Honestly love it. Gonna sound like a huge music snob but it fits perfectly with the off key, dissonant beat

Johnny Vegas

11-10-2010, 11:16 AM

My God this album is great. :y:

I knew Kanye West wouldn't disappoint, but its like that movie with that all-star cast that ends up not being that great. So much expectation and he filled them.

Buzzkill

11-10-2010, 12:05 PM

Lost in the World is one of the best songs I've heard in a few years, damn

Johnny Vegas

11-10-2010, 12:52 PM

All of the Lights is my shit.

Actually, Monster is amazing in my car on the highway,

So Appalled reminds me of a banging 1995 track (Notorious BIG would've smashed this track).

Devil in a New Dress, Kanye is basically talking about Amber Rose (which i think he's 200% on, but he should've seen this gold digger a mile away), still a good "smoke an L" track.

Man, i could go on but im hungry

Johnny Vegas

11-10-2010, 12:57 PM

Wait,

Runaway is my jam as well

Power is just a great war/sports/determination type of song. Great for video editing/promos

Lost in the World is on some other shit, in a great way. Like, i was high when i heard this song and i was like "lol this shit is wtf good"

Blame Game is good, Kanye gets 200% on this track as well

Gorgeous...is gorgeous lol

I love the whole album. if i could take one song out or if i had to say something negative, i wish it was longerrrr

Buzzkill

11-10-2010, 01:08 PM

Wish he had included Good Friday (http://prettymuchamazing.com/images/kanye-west-good-friday.mp3), and maybe a few more soul jams, but it's fucking ridiculous all the same.

Nicki Minaj's verse on Monster is out of this world

El Vaquero de Infierno

11-10-2010, 02:23 PM

I can say with all certainty that I have no wish (nor will I ever have the wish) to listen to a Kanye west album.

Johnny Vegas

11-10-2010, 10:51 PM

well keep punishing yourself

Snacky Smores

11-11-2010, 08:49 AM

Is Gay Fish on the new album?

Johnny Vegas

11-11-2010, 10:34 AM

lol wow, somebody definitely created a membership just to say "Is Gay Fish on the new album?".

SMH

Snacky Smores

11-11-2010, 05:27 PM

So no, then?

Buzzkill

11-11-2010, 10:41 PM

eat snacky smores

Funky Fly

11-11-2010, 10:50 PM

Hey Buzzy, you wanna play a game of grabass?

Fignuts

11-11-2010, 11:17 PM

Yeah, this is pretty great.

Buzzkill

11-12-2010, 03:19 PM

Just realized that Blame Game is awesome

Funky Fly

11-13-2010, 06:15 AM

Fuck, this album is quality. Lots of "growth as an artist" here.

Buzzkill

11-14-2010, 12:14 PM

Kanye on his upcoming collaboration with Jay-Z, "Watch the Throne": "It's going to be way more awesome than My Dark Twisted Fantasy," West says. "My growth in music production and mixing is retarded."

lol

Fignuts

11-14-2010, 02:17 PM

Really liking Power as well as Appalled.

Buzzkill

11-14-2010, 02:47 PM

Runaway is really growing on me, same with Hell of a Life and All of the Lights

Johnny Vegas

11-15-2010, 04:04 PM

I honestly think that Kanye is going to be in the "cultural icon" talks with people like Ali, Lennon, Michael Jackson, Bono, etc. He is just too big, too talented, and too outspoken and controversial to not be. And i would vot "yay" to it

Buzzkill

11-15-2010, 04:05 PM

I think he deserves the spot, but unlike all of those artists there's a serious negative weight attached to his name. It's almost "taboo" to admit you like Kanye because he is such a jackass

Johnny Vegas

11-15-2010, 04:41 PM

Same with Pac, Ali, and many others. People are overly-sensitive to things because we always want a "clean, perfect, never any controversy" type of "hero".

He lost his mom, basically brought up a nobody stripper who probably never even owned Ray-Ban, and got played for another FEMALE, got shafted at award shows (even i'll admit that..because he is cocky, they didnt want to award him), etc. Of course he's done his share of stuff, but like i named the names earlier, these are cultural icons that CHANGED the way you look at whatever they were involved in.

Buzzkill

11-17-2010, 08:20 PM

daammmmn this album is fuckin siiickkkk

Johnny Vegas

11-18-2010, 04:46 AM

I can't stop playing the first track lol

Jeritron

11-18-2010, 07:58 PM

Still gotta listen to this besides that first single. I hope it's great.

I loved College Dropout, Late Registration and Graduation, but didn't really care much for 808s. What will I think of this?

Buzzkill

11-18-2010, 08:22 PM

It's got elements of all of his albums with a few new touches, so I think you'll be pretty psyched on it minus a few songs.

Jeritron

11-18-2010, 08:44 PM

Gonna listen to it sometime this weekend

Funky Fly

11-19-2010, 01:58 AM

It's got elements of all of his albums with a few new touches, so I think you'll be pretty psyched on it minus a few songs.

You feel the 808s presence the most tho. That, then Graduation.

Buzzkill

11-22-2010, 01:11 PM

Perfect 10 from Pitchfork: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/

Pretty sure this is their first 10 for a new album since Kid A, not sure tho

Buzzkill

11-23-2010, 01:32 PM

Actually it is their first since YHF in 2001

Johnny Vegas

11-23-2010, 02:52 PM

i LOVE that album cover with the black dude and white girl looking like demons LOL

Savio

11-23-2010, 06:08 PM

I wish I would listen to this

FakeLaser

11-24-2010, 02:44 PM

Gonna get around to listening to this unit eventually

Johnny Vegas

11-25-2010, 01:27 AM

unit

Blitz

11-28-2010, 02:53 AM

K checked it out, yeah it is good, not as good as everyone says which isn't surprising. Lost In The World is pretty amazing.

Downunder

11-28-2010, 07:04 AM

NYC doesn't like Kanye

Triple A

11-28-2010, 07:23 AM

I listened to like the first 5 tracks and it seemed like a "regular rap album." I dunno.

The Perfect Album

Buzzkill

11-28-2010, 01:06 PM

Dunno what you are talking about here Triple A. One of the reasons I love this so much is because it doesn't sound like any rap album I have ever heard. Crazy interludes, interesting song structures, interesting sampling.

Totally "changes the rules" of hip hop. Lost in the World is experimental music by any definition

Triple A

11-28-2010, 01:26 PM

I will listen to the whole album / "give it a chance."

Inadequacy

11-28-2010, 01:46 PM

Loving this right now

Johnny Vegas

11-28-2010, 05:44 PM

Yea, Triple A. I dunno what you've been listening to..or you may be from the future..........................................

FakeLaser

11-29-2010, 01:49 PM

It's pretty good. I guess I can see why people would call it a "game changer" or whatever. It's definitely different than anything else out there. I admire the production and the innovative style...

I can't say that I'm incredibly into it or anything yet though. Like I am listening to it, and I am enjoying it, and I can appreciate it for what it is as an artistic expression/experimentation, but it isn't grabbing me like a "classic" album should. Still think Das Racist has the best rap album out there this year though I know I'm in the vast minority now.

Kapoutman

11-29-2010, 03:26 PM

Listened to it. I like a couple of the songs, but I don't really see it as a "game changer" like some of you said. It's still good, but I don't find it to be as memorable as it is made out to be.

I feel left out. :(

Buzzkill

11-29-2010, 03:34 PM

It definitely grew on me a ton after a few listens, but then again I loved it when I first heard it so I dunno.

Lyrics are great, production is huge + over the top good, just a ton of emotion packed into every song. Each one could potentially be my favorite.

Also have to consider where it fits in to his musical career (which has been insanely good up to this point) and where it fits into the progression of the genre as a whole. It makes his old stuff look completely anemic and makes the rest of hip hop seem totally lifeless.

FakeLaser

11-29-2010, 03:52 PM

I definitely think the lyrics are great and the production is incredible, it just hasn't really resounded with me. And when I say I can appreciate it, I definitely am saying I appreciate where it fits in his career and alongside the rest of the genre. I can see its relative importance in said confines.

It's definitely one of those albums where you're looking at an artist who is at the top of their genre both commercially and from a creative standpoint, at their creative and/or experimental peak.

I can see it being compared to Radiohead with Kid A, in that sense, at least for its innovative content and perceived quality. And you see how much Radiohead changed music with Kid A.

No one can deny the influence Kanye has had on the rap game over the past decade, taking it out of the ghetto/gangsta rap and cookie-cutter bling bling era and into a more self-conscious, intelligent and... I almost want to say suburban party realm, at least in the mainstream. Underground rap/hip hop has always had experimental albums of this nature (not exactly like this, but you get my point), however not with the same grandiose production levels. He's not the first to do something like this. But he's been afforded the biggest stage to do so, and as an artist of his stature... this album will hold a great deal of significance.

Probably one of those albums that is "rewarding" if you spend some time with it. Which I haven't really done much of yet. I can see the impact this is going to have, but I haven't gotten that into it to be honest.

Funky Fly

11-29-2010, 03:55 PM

On first listen I was like "damn, me likey". 234572836578 listens later and I am like "one of my all time favourites"

-EDIT-

Otherwise what RZA said in the 3rd last sentence.

Buzzkill

11-29-2010, 05:12 PM

Also, listening to this on good speakers or headphones is really key. The production is so densely layered that a lot gets lost on regular speakers. The "OHHH OOOH OOOOHS" on Dark Fantasy sound great (you can hear Kid Cudi, Elton John, Alicia Keys, Beyonce, and Charlie Wilson all pretty distinctly) and the baseline on Runaway is way way better.

FakeLaser

11-29-2010, 06:41 PM

Devil In A New Dress is my favorite unit on this unit

Buzzkill

11-29-2010, 08:15 PM

Love the transition to Rick Ross's verse on it. Also really fucking love the last 3 minute on Runaway

FakeLaser

11-29-2010, 08:25 PM

I can feel this growing on me like gangrene

Funky Fly

11-29-2010, 08:36 PM

Yeah, me and this other dude at work have almost the exact same taste in music and when any of this shit comes on our ipods we fucking go nuts and everyone looks at us like we are on drugs. Fuckin' love it

Johnny Vegas

11-29-2010, 08:40 PM

Pretty much agree with what Buzzkill and Funkmaster have said

Funky Fly

11-29-2010, 08:56 PM

RZA, did you d/l that song I repped to you? It's what they sampled for one of those Das Racist songs you posted. Actually it's the ending song off an anime called Samurai Champloo, which has a shit load of hip hop culture influences and references.

FakeLaser

11-29-2010, 11:34 PM

Still gotta get that unit actually

Jeritron

12-03-2010, 12:02 AM

I just listened to as much of this as I could on Youtube. There are a few tracks missing.

For some reason Hell Of A Life was my favorite at first listen, but I haven't seen that mentioned here.
I need to listen to some more.

It's good. I don't know if I like it as much as I liked his first few albums when I was way into his music, but maybe I've just changed a bit. Back then was when I thought he was a genius.

Jeritron

12-03-2010, 12:06 AM

Wow, Devil In A New Dress really is incredible.

Jeritron

12-03-2010, 12:25 AM

This is definitely the direction I thought Kanye was going, and it's already growing on me huge. I think 808s was a bit of a diversion from what I liked about his music. I just didn't really like it.

Though Lost In The World feels like a descendent of that 808s style, but hits with me. I think he's perfected mixing that style with his strengths. I'm also feeling a stronger and more poignant influx of the African drumming and musical style that he tried to implement in 808s. That's a really cool element.

But this album has the right feel. After "I Wonder", I sort of figured he was going to eventually experiment more with some of these sounds. I loved that song deeply.

For all of Kanye's supposed shortcomings as a person, he really seems to tap into something real and touching in his music. It's genuine. Music is definitely his catharsis and that's rare these days, unfortunately.

Gonna go buy this

Jeritron

12-03-2010, 12:25 AM

It's incredible what another half hour of listening to this did. I can't stop now

Funky Fly

12-03-2010, 02:00 AM

His mind was in a fucked place when 808s came out. Like you could see the direction his music was taking, but his tragedies were sidetracking his progression, weird as that sounds.

FakeLaser

12-03-2010, 11:09 AM

Wow, Devil In A New Dress really is incredible.
:y:

Buzzkill

12-03-2010, 11:54 AM

Hell of a Life is incredible too, Jeritron. Fucking love the crazy piano sample right after the chorus

So Appalled is actually becoming my favorite tho. Just crazy modern/stripped down hip hop.

I'd say the "weakest" track is Gorgeous just in that it isn't that innovative, but it's still a great song with some excellent lyrics

Buzzkill

12-03-2010, 12:02 PM

Wow, Devil In A New Dress really is incredible.
Hard to be humble when you're stuntin on a Jumbotron

Also, pretty sure this is the only time I've been struck by a Rick Ross verse, he really kills it

FakeLaser

12-03-2010, 12:26 PM

Yeah, Rick Ross does destroy it

Triple A

12-03-2010, 02:24 PM

Wow, Devil In A New Dress really is incredible.

Just watched the video for this, it is mad good actually, rlly like it. COOL vid also.

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