Push; Midcard; and Future Endeavor

[Next Big Thing]

As Innovator astutely pointed out last time, this thread is a version of the old playground favorite: Fuck; Marry; Kill. But instead of picking one bitch to marry, one bitch to screw, and one bitch to kill you're taking three wrestlers and picking one to push to the main event level, one to relegate to the midcard, and one to send to TNA. And to those of you who want to show how smart you are by pointing out that WWE would never release blah blah blah (Cough FourFifty Cough Cough)... It's a game.

Group One:

Ted Dibiase
Cody Rhodes
Drew McIntyre

Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Miz
Morrison
Swagger

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole
Lawler
Striker

Group Four:

Edge
Christian
Rey Mysterio

Do all four or only those that intrigue you....

[Londoner]

Lol. Nice idea for a game, might do it later.

[XCaliber]

Group One:

Push - Ted Dibiase
Midcard - Drew McIntyre
Future Endeavor - Cody Rhodes


Group Two:

Push - Miz
Midcard - Morrison
Future Endeavor - Swagger


Group Three:

Push - Cole
Midcard - Striker
Future Endeavor - Lawler


Group Four:

Push - Edge
Midcard - Rey Mysterio
Future Endeavor - Christian

[Lock Jaw]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase: Push
Cody Rhodes: Midcard
Drew McIntyre: Future Endeavored

McIntyre just has not impressed me at all, aside from his theme music.


Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Miz: Push
Morrison: Midcard
Swagger: Future Endeavored

Don't like firing Swagger, but I think Morrison would be the better bet to keep around for a solid midcard guy.


Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole: Push
Lawler: Future Endeavored
Striker: Midcard

Cole is kinda getting a push as it is. Striker I feel that he tries way too hard sometimes to be liked by the internet, but he is still better than King.


Group Four:

Edge: Midcard
Christian: Push
Rey Mysterio: Future Endeavored

This one is tough. From a business standpoint it should probably be the complete opposite of what I have. From a standpoint of me being a huge Christian mark.... this makes sense. :shifty:

[Londoner]

Group One:

Push - Drew McIntyre
Midcard - Ted Dibiase
Future Endeavor - Cody Rhodes


Group Two:

Push - Morrison
Midcard - Miz
Future Endeavor - Swagger (really didn't want to have to put him there)


Group Three:

Push - Cole
Midcard - Striker
Future Endeavor - Lawler


Group Four:

Push - Christian
Midcard - Edge
Future Endeavor - Rey

[The Jayman]

Push: Dibiase
Midcard: McIntyre
Future Endeavor: Rhodes


Push: Miz
Midcard: Morrison
Future Endeavor: Swagger


Push: Cole
Midcard: Striker
Future Endeavor: Lawler


Push: Christian
Midcard: Edge
Future Endeavor: Mysterio

[VSG]

Group One:

Push - Ted Dibiase
Midcard - Cody Rhodes
Future Endeavor - Drew McIntyre

Group Two:

Push - Miz
Midcard - Swagger
Future Endeavor - Morrison


Group Three:

Push - Cole
Midcard - Striker
Future Endeavor - Lawler


Group Four:

Push - Christian
Midcard - Rey Mysterio
Future Endeavor - Edge

Group 4 is more out of being forced than anything else. Edge is not expected to wrestle after a coupla years.

[Londoner]

Rhodes over Drew, seriously? Drew is the future of the business, Cody will do fuck all.

[VSG]

Daddy Rhodes clinches the deal there, frankly. I would rather have Dusty, Dustin and Cody with me than a lone Scot who has already been outshone by Cody in the "getting heat" department.

[Londoner]

Drew is Vince's 'chosen one', so there.

[VSG]

Ya, we all know how that worked :roll:

[The Naitch]

Group One:

Push- Ted Dibiase
Midcard- Cody Rhodes
FE- Drew McIntyre

Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Push- Miz
Midcard- Morrison
FE- Swagger

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

1- Cole
3- Lawler
2- Striker

Group Four:

Push- Edge
FE- Christian
Midcard- Rey Mysterio

[VSG]

I am surprised you didn't ask a question about the newer wrestlers, Naitch. Looks like you are getting back into the WWE train.

[Londoner]

Ya, we all know how that worked :roll:

He's a future wwe champ, just wait n see.

[Mr. Pierre]

Group One: Can't I FE all of them...?

Ted Dibiase: Mid-card
Cody Rhodes: Push
Drew McIntyre: FE

Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Miz: Push
Morrison: FE
Swagger: Mid-card

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole: Push
Lawler: FE
Striker: Mid-card

Group Four:

Edge: FE
Christian: Push
Rey Mysterio: Mid-card

Damn that was hard. It was either I liked all of the members, or couldn't stand any of them.

[Waylander]

Group One:
Ted Dibiase - Release
Cody Rhodes - Relegate
Drew McIntyre - Push
(Teddy is boring as hell, Maryse is the best part of his matches. Cody I have nothing against but somebody had to be relegated and as somebody else said Drew is the future.)

Group Two:
Miz - Push
Morrison - Relegate
Swagger - Release
(Sorry Swags, we all pegged you for greatness and you've shown us nothing since. Miz is awesome and Morrison is dull.)

Group Three (Announcer Version):
Cole - Relegate
Lawler - Push
Striker - Release
(Striker is in a similar sinking ship as Swagger, he was destined for great things, was given the opportunity and then did nothing with it. Somehow he lost his talent when he got his promotion. While Cole is doing a great job of being despicable I couldn't bring myself to pick him and picked the nostalgic option.)

Group Four:
Edge - Push
Christian - Release
Rey Mysterio - Relegate
(I know you all love Christian but I don't. Every time I see him in a match he looks clumsier than the last time.)

[Nicky Fives]

Group One: (The Hardest decision IMO)

Ted Dibiase - midcard
Cody Rhodes - release
Drew McIntyre - push

Group Two:

Miz - midcard
Morrison - release
Swagger - push

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole - midcard
Lawler - release
Striker - push

Group Four:

Edge - midcard (has had his time in the spotlight)
Christian - push (deserves his spot in the spotlight)
Rey Mysterio - release

[Londoner]

Finally some people with common sense(meaning not hating on Drew).

[Ultra Mantis]

Group One

Push: Cody Rhodes
Midcard: Mcintyre
Release: Dibiase

Group Two

Push: Morrison
Midcard: Swagger
Release: Miz

Group Three

1: Cole
2: Striker
Release: Lawler

Group Four

Push: Christian
Midcard: Rey Mysterio
Release: Edge

[The Naitch]

I am surprised you didn't ask a question about the newer wrestlers, Naitch. Looks like you are getting back into the WWE train.

I'm pretty familiar with the wrestlers today, I can judge them just by looking at them, even when I was just watching rarely during 2008-2009

I'm just unfamiliar with the storylines. headlines, and angles that I've been missing

I watch frequently as of right now

[Gertner]

How can some of you choose Rhodes to be released!!! Where would I get my grooming tips!?!

[St. Jimmy]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase (Midcard)
Cody Rhodes (Push)
Drew McIntyre (Bye)

Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Miz (Bye)
Morrison (Push)
Swagger (Mid)

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole (Bye)
Lawler (Mid)
Striker (Push)

Group Four:

Edge (Mid)
Christian (push)
Rey Mysterio (Bye)

[Schlomey]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase (future endeavor)
Cody Rhodes (push)
Drew McIntyre (midcard)

Group Two

Miz (push)
Morrison (future endeavor)
Swagger ( mid card)

Group Three

Cole (push)
Lawler (future endeavor)
Striker (mid card)

Group Four:

Edge (mid card)
Christian (push)
Rey Mysterio (future endeavor)

[Londoner]

How can some of you choose Rhodes to be released!!! Where would I get my grooming tips!?!

Bollocks, i should've thought of that.

[Skippord]

Future Endeavor: Ted Dibiase
Push: Cody Rhodes
Midcard: Drew McIntyre

Group Two:
Future Endeavor: Miz
Push: Morrison
Midcard: Swagger

Group Three:

Future Endeavor: Cole
Midcard: Lawler
Push: Striker

Group Four:

Push: Edge
Midcard: Christian
Future Endeavor: Rey Mysterio

[RiX1024]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase: Push
Cody Rhodes : Future Endeavour
Drew McIntyre: Midcard

Group Two:

Miz: Push
Morrison: Future Endeavour
Swagger: Midcard

Group Three:

Cole: Future Endeavour
Lawler: Midcard
Striker: Push

Group Four:

Edge: Push
Christian: Midcard
Rey Mysterio: Future Endeavour

[VSG]

Fucking Cody Rhodes haters.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

Fucking Cody Rhodes haters.

Im am a 'Dashing' cody rhodes fan

[The Naitch]

How can some of you choose Rhodes to be released!!! Where would I get my grooming tips!?!

I'm not a big fan of his chicken legs. He needs to wear knee pads, bro!

[Schlomey]

shocked at all the "future endeavors" that Cole is receiving.

[TheHart]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase - Midcard
Cody Rhodes - Push
Drew McIntyre - FE

Group Two:

Miz - Push
Morrison - Midcard
Swagger - FE

Group Three:

Cole - Push
Lawler - FE
Striker - Midcard

Group Four:

Edge - Midcard
Christian - Push
Rey Mysterio - FE

[Next Big Thing]

I'm kind of surprised by all the Swagger FE's. I've always liked him on the mic and I think he's talented enough in the ring. I figured more people would choose to let Morrison go if they had to choose between the three.

Anyone who would release Cody Rhodes is just jealous because he's able to wear a nose ring and not have hate crimes committed against him.

[Lock Jaw]

Surprised at the amount of people pushing Christian over Edge.

[Schlomey]

Cuz Edge has had a bunch of shots while Christian really hasnt...at least thats my opinion.

[bigslimjj]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase-Main Event(Without the celebrity envolvement please)
Cody Rhodes-Midcard(Better match ups for him)
Drew McIntyre-Future endeavored (So hard his pony tail falls off.)

Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Miz-Main Event(He's got "it",whatever the hell "It" is.)
Morrison-TNA(More his style,turm it into the "Parkour zone")
Swagger-Midcard(For one more push,if he fails this time GTFO)

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole-Send his ass to FCW
Lawler-Midcard(Smackdown with Josh Matthews, Todd Grisham can shove off)
Striker-Main event a.k.a. RAW(With J.R. Bah Gawd)

Group Four:

Edge-Main Event(After Linda loses maybe he can actually be Rated R)
Christian-Back to TNA(Where he was the most over he's been as a single competitor)
Rey Mysterio-Midcard(Time to push the new guys Rey)

[Schlomey]

Linda has actually gone ahead or at least tied in the poles so who knows what will happen. Good chance now she'll actually win.

[VSG]

She was 11% behind a day ago.

[Aguakate]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase-Push
Cody Rhodes-Midcard
Drew McIntyre-Future Endeavored

Group Two:

Miz-Midcard
Morrison-Push
Swagger-Future Endeavored

Group Three (Announcer Version):

Cole-Midcard
Lawler-Push
Striker-Future Endeavored

Group Four:

Edge-Midcard
Christian-Future Endeavored
Rey Mysterio-Push

[Londoner]

Surprised at the amount of people pushing Christian over Edge.

Because Edge is retiring in a couple of years.

[Londoner]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase-Push
Cody Rhodes-Midcard
Drew McIntyre-Future Endeavored

Group Two:

Miz-Midcard
Morrison-Push
Swagger-Future Endeavored

Group Three (Announcer Version):

Cole-Midcard
Lawler-Push
Striker-Future Endeavored

Group Four:

Edge-Midcard
Christian-Future Endeavored
Rey Mysterio-Push

thank god you're not running the company!!

[Tom Guycott]

My subjective 2 cents worth:


Push - Cody Rhodes
Midcard - Drew McIntyre
Future Endeavor - Ted Dibiase

When Legacy broke up, everyone expected DiBiase to shoot to the freakin' moon, while Cody somehow became a weaksauce tag partner for Goldie for awhile before getting Superstars jobber duty. Teddy has that "it" factor, but he's currently, and ironically, in the spot Cody was in the first place. He's not really given time to showcase his talents in a way that makes sense for him to, while Cody has taken the vanity ball and run with it for multiple touchdowns. Teddy can go be the man in TNA for a bit, like Christian, and get his legs. Drew just needs to bide a little more time.

Group Two:

Push - Miz
Midcard - Swagger
Future Endeavor - Morrison

Much like Elijah Burke, Morrison is being underused for his in ring talent and could make a splash in Florida (and I don't mean FCW). Miz is getting his due now, and Swagger, as with McIntyre, just needs to bide his time until his stars line up.


Group Three:

Push - Cole
Midcard - Striker
Future Endeavor - Lawler

Cole needs to go full heel. Even with the push he's getting now, he switches sides too often, from full on ass-kissing heel (loves Miz, hates R-Truth), to objective commentator calling matches with "journalistic integrity" (the heel in him brings it up, the face in him actually does it), to still doing face like announcing (defending Cena vs Nexus, or the various "somebody stop this!" schtick he does when someone other than Daniel Bryan is getting beat down... and actually, even sometimes wishy-washy on that point.) Striker is great as a "wrestling nerd", but doesn't need to be the voice of the company. Lawler's time has just come to hang it up.

Group Four:

Push - Christian
Midcard - Rey Mysterio
Future Endeavor - Edge

SUPRISE! I was actually a bit torn, as Mysterio could benefit from the lighter schedule of TNA (let's be serious for a minute... ::Lance Storm pose:: if just about ANY person in this entire game were "Future Endeavored", they would likely end up at Universal Studios.) But it would be a major shake-up if Mr. Copeland went south. Let's face it, he's pretty much done everything there is to do in WWE, a fact he can throw in everyone's face in TNA with great flair and cocky conviction. He can actually be "Rated R" with full sanctioning of the company. Rey-Rey can kick-start the new generation of high flyers like Bourne with quality tear-the-house-down losses (and in doing so, still give the rub to Del Rio, who claims responsibility for leaving Rey as a shadow of his former self.) And Christian could finally win "the big one".

[XL]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase- Midcard
Cody Rhodes- Push
Drew McIntyre-Future Endeavored

ATM Cody is doing far better than his former partner. I'd be halfway inclined to drop Ted but he hasn't had the huge push that Drew had. It's a tough one but I think Ted has more room to grow given a decent push. WWE seem to have gone cold on Drew - and so have I.


Group Two:

Miz- Push
Morrison- Future Endeavored
Swagger- Midcard

Continue Miz' push to the Main Event. Sorry JoMo, you're the goods in the ring but someone has to go. Go learn some mic skills in TNA and I'll pick you back up when your contract expires. I'ma big fan of Swagger. He can go in the ring, has a legit wrestling background and his promo work is top notch IMO. Was a toss up between Swags and Miz for that ME push.


Group Three (Announcer Version):

Cole- Push
Lawler- Future Endeavored
Striker- Midcard

Cole's current persona is awesome - they just need to pull the trigger on him being an asshole GM. I like Striker, he brings something to the booth that a lot of others don't bother to - knowledge. And speaking of those others that don't bother - Mr Phoning-My-Job-In himself, Lawler. Could have scrapped him 5 years ago and I'd have been happy.

Group Four:

Edge- Midcard
Christian- Push
Rey Mysterio- Future Endeavored

Rey's knees are shot. He adds nothing to the show other than a couple of lame flashy moves but he shills merch. Go work a light schedule in TNA. Meh. Edge is winding down as we speak. I'd drop him to midcard to start elevating talent there so we can look to the future. With that in mind, Xtian is the healthiest (or at least was) of the 3 and still has room to progress, Use him to fill the gap left by Edge until the younger guys are put over.

[Snowden]

Group One:

Ted Dibiase - Futyre Endeavored
Cody Rhodes - Push
Drew McIntyre - Midcard

Honestly, what the fuck has Ted done to really deserve a push? He's decent in the ring, has an ok look, and is passable on the mic. Cody is worlds better than Ted on the stick and between the ropes, and Drew is at least as good as Teddy while having much more of a presence about him.

Group Two (This Group was done last time, I just want to see if any opinions have changed):

Miz - Push
Morrison - Future Endeavor
Swagger - Midcard

Miz is one of the best mic workers the WWE has, period, and his ring work has been solid and steadily improving...he's the easy push choice here. As for endeavoring Morrison over Swagger...I just don't see the world of difference in their in ring ability, and I'll take Swagger on the stick by a fair margin. Yes, Morrison is exciting and unique, but Swagger works a really technically solid style, and playing up his wrestling backround in his ring work even more would make his style "pop" too.

Group Three (Announcer Version... I guess this would be more of a ranking):

Cole - Midcard
Lawler - Future Endeavor
Striker - Push

Lawler is all washed up and just a shadow of his former self. I love Striker's little insights, and if he could pull back on his over the top act he could be a really amazing color guy. Cole is a solid hand, worth keeping around.

Group Four:

Edge - Push
Christian - Midcard
Rey Mysterio - Future Endeavor

And this is from a personal perspective, not a business one...otherwise Rey and his mask selling cash-cow-ness would be squarely in the midcard. Edge is a star, the best of the three on the mic, and can legitimately go from the centerpiece of a show to a supplementary main eventer. Christian has always been a solid hand, and can work the midcard flawlessly. Rey, he's nice and all...but not on the level of E+C.

[Aguakate]

thank god you're not running the company!!

...it's a matter of opinion, my man.

[Londoner]

...it's a matter of opinion, my man.

Doesn't mean its a good opinion though. ;)

[Aguakate]

Doesn't mean its a good opinion though. ;)

...In YOUR opinion, MY opinion is not a GOOD opinion...which in MY opinion, is a WRONG opinion.

[Londoner]

.........

[Aguakate]

...In YOUR opinion, MY opinion is not a GOOD opinion...which in MY opinion, is a WRONG opinion.

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[Londoner]

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Your opinions still shit, though. :cool:

[Schlomey]

She was 11% behind a day ago.


foxnews reported a tie 2-3 days ago. Hence why it's probably a lie.