Doctor Who Season 6 (May Contain Spoilers)

[Next Big Thing]

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[Londoner]

Looking forward to it.

[The Destroyer]

The BBC trailer is excellent. I just love the music. The BBC America trailer isn't as great, but it does give you a fairly good look at the rather horrible looking aliens from the opening two parter.

Only 3 weeks to wait. :y:

[The Destroyer]

Also, some interesting stuff to spot in the BBC trailer.

Rory and Amy in the Ninth/Tenth Doctor era control room and River in the time ship from The Lodger to name but two.

[Kane Knight]

Sweet.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Aren't they splitting the season into two halfs, like the americans. They will show the first 7 episodes then have a break until september.

Quite annoying if they do, though it will shorten the break between season and xmas special.

[Londoner]

I heard that to a while ago but didn't hear anything confirmed. Don't see the point in it tbh.

[Next Big Thing]

Yeah. That's what they're going to do. 7 episodes in the Spring and then 6 in the fall... At least we'll have Tochwood to bridge the gap :| :nono:

[Londoner]

I don't watch Torchwood. Have given it a go but it ain't my thing.

[Next Big Thing]

Yeah. I'm not a fan either.

[XCaliber]

Yeah. That's what they're going to do. 7 episodes in the Spring and then 6 in the fall... At least we'll have Tochwood to bridge the gap :| :nono:

If that's the case I hope they do the same on the Space channel here in Canada rather than pushing it back until all the episodes have already aired elsewhere instead of only being a week or two behind that would suck big time.

[The Destroyer]

Space will be airing it a matter of hours behind the UK.

[Kane Knight]

I heard that to a while ago but didn't hear anything confirmed. Don't see the point in it tbh.

It's so they can have a ZOMG GAME CHANGING CLIFFHANGER!!!!!!

...Which had better be good.

[Londoner]

Oh in that case it would be OK. But everyone would've forgotten the cliffhanger by then.....

[XL]

Just do a previously on Dr Who LOST_style recap.

[The Destroyer]

If it's a good cliffhanger, you won't forget it.

[Kane Knight]

Oh in that case it would be OK. But everyone would've forgotten the cliffhanger by then.....

Really? I can't imagine people having that short an attention spa....Oh, who am I kidding?

Just do a previously on Dr Who LOST_style recap.

Preferably with River saying "Spoilers...."

[Next Big Thing]

I'm not sure I like Rory tagging along. I guess he'd have to be in the picture since he and Amy are married and it seems they're going to push the Doctor and River angle a bit more, but I always hated the episodes where the male companions were along for the entire ride. Captain Jack was/is the only exception.

The monsters for the first two episodes are supposed to be the best since the Weeping Angels so if that's the case it should be some exciting stuff.

16 days left.

[The Destroyer]

Here's a spoilery hook for the first story. Which I don't quite believe is going to be totally accurate, but we'll see.

Either The Doctor, River, Amy or Rory dies.

[Kane Knight]

But is it "4 reelz?"

[The Destroyer]

Well it's come straight from Steven Moffat who claims it is. But I'm still pretty cynical about it. There'll be a cop out, somehow.

[Next Big Thing]

I've gotta assume (hope) Rory if it's legit. We've seen River die. The Doctors "died" 10 times and has regenerated or been revived in some way or another including at the end of last season... And killing off Amy... would suck because I have a thing for red headed women with Scottish accents.

[Kane Knight]

Well it's come straight from Steven Moffat who claims it is. But I'm still pretty cynical about it. There'll be a cop out, somehow.

I'm thinking the same.

I've gotta assume (hope) Rory if it's legit. We've seen River die. The Doctors "died" 10 times and has regenerated or been revived in some way or another including at the end of last season... And killing off Amy... would suck because I have a thing for red headed women with Scottish accents.

The Doctor can't be "dying" permanently anyway, since we've seen clips of him in multiple future episodes.

Well, they could probably find an asspull for him to regenerate as Matt Smith again, like they did with Ten and the hand, but that'd be awful. Plus, I don't think Moffat's going to pull a RTD.

Maybe River dies again, aborting the earlier death. :shifty:

[Next Big Thing]

So if any of the Doctor's companions had to die a horrible death during their season that they couldn't come back from and would be completely written out forever never to return, who would you guys choose and why?

For me it would have to be Donna. Her character grew on me quite a bit, but not in a "damn that sucks she got killed off way." I'd be more sad if her Grandpa died to be honest. Martha is still my favorite of all the companions and Amy is a hot redhead. I guess I could let Rose go too. In hindsight, her storyline wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good as Martha or Donna's and she's not as hot as Amy.

Also, who of all the companions would you give a spin off to ala the Sarah Jane Chronicles?

Rose's life in the parallel universe could be interesting. Martha's too since she went rogue with Mickey Smith.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Only 9 days or so until some hot Amy Pond action...erm, I mean the new series of Doctor Who. Quite looking forward to it, which is unusual for me when it concerns tv programs. They have been reshowing Series 5 lately, so I will be all up to date come 23rd.

[Next Big Thing]

http://comicrelated.com/artwork/DoctorWhoKiss.jpg

The Doctor should have hit that.

[Gray]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13137674

Doctor Who stuff.

What a shame indeed!

[The Destroyer]

Yeah, really awful news. :(

[Londoner]

Wow, wasn't expecting that. :(

[Next Big Thing]

Tonight! I'm just gonna enjoy the Doctor Who marathon all day today.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

T-minus 3 hours 23 minutes until the new season starts.

[XL]

HALF AN HOUR!

Getting my hair cut at the same time though. Wonder if I can get the hair dryer to be quiet? :-\

[Next Big Thing]

Damn it. I still have 8 hours to wait.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I would give you spoilers, but I think you should wait that little bit longer to find out what happens. :p

[Next Big Thing]

God bless you Vaquero. Just tell me this... Did it live up to the hype?

[The Destroyer]

I was so hyped for it I don't think it could ever meet my expectations.

I enjoyed it though. Didn't play out at all how I expected it to.

[XCaliber]

First episode was great not gonna spoil it but there's a huge wtf moment near the start that I didn't expect which I could see as becoming a trend for this season.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I think the second episode will give people the payoff they were looking for. There was definitely an uneasy feeling throughout the episode.

[Next Big Thing]

Loved the episode, especially for the fact that the Doctor had no idea what was going on so the usual feeling of everything's going to be alright wasn't there. Definitely were some WTF moments too though.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

WTF (for the end of the episode)!

[Next Big Thing]

Damn this damn time zone difference!

[The Destroyer]

Yes, wtf was my exact reaction. Literally.

Good episode though. I really, really like the Silence.

[Londoner]

Really enjoyed the opening 2 episodes. The Silence were brilliantly put together/explained, etc. Could've maybe been 3 parts but i know that doesn't happen these days so not bothered.

[The Destroyer]

I think the general arc is going to expand throughout the series as a whole anyway. I'm sure The Silence, River and the kid will all be back.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Aren't they suppose to reveal the whole River Song aspect this season?

In the first two episodes they have definietly made the doctor/river relationship more flirty, so it must be leading to something.

[Next Big Thing]

My reaction at the end of the episode was holy shit. Loved the Silence and the cliffhanger with River at the end. They set up a nice arc involving Amy and the Doctor's relationship and whether the kid is theirs too.

Since they're doing 7 episodes and then a break I'm willing to bet that 7th episode is going to be epic based just on how the first 2 episodes have gone.

[Next Big Thing]

MY THEORY ON THE LITTLE GIRL (SPOILER ALERT... MAYBE)




I believe that there was an episode during Donna's time with the Doctor where the Doctor explained that Time Lord/Human relationships don't work because human physiology can't handle it.

I believe that the little girl will continue to die and regenerate because she is part human. I also think that the space suit they discovered that contained life support was specially built by the Silence to keep the little girl alive.

This twist will probably reveal itself in the 7th episode cliff hanger. Just a theory...

[XCaliber]

The 2nd episode was good very much opened the same way the first did but did it several times heh and a called the significance of the kid looks like they're already planning out a way to continue the series once The Doctor has reached the end of his final regeneration this is really the only viable solution when ya think of it.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

The new episode was nothing special, except for a couple of things relating to the previous episodes.

The next episode looks more promising.

[Londoner]

Tonights episode was good for what it was, if that makes sense. Just basically filler for the series but entertaining still, imo.

[Next Big Thing]

Yeah I'm still about 6 hours out from watching the show, but the Doctor Who filler episodes are always entertaining so I'm looking forward to it.

[PapaGeorgio]

Agree with what everyone else said. Fun and entertaining episode, but nothing amazing or big picture about it sans few moments.

[Next Big Thing]

That was definitely filler. Didn't like it as much as I thought it would based on the previews. Next weeks episode looks pretty epic though.

[Londoner]

Not quite sure why some people are complaining about it, i think expectations were maybe set too high after the first two episodes. And the previews of this one.

[The Destroyer]

Probably doesn't help that they swapped it about in the running order. It was originally meant to air as episode 9.

Alright episode in general though. I'm really looking forward to next week though.

[Londoner]

Well that's fucking odd that they swapped it.

[The Destroyer]

In hindsight it's a bit of a stupid reason - it was apparently because the episodes that were scheduled to be the first 4 all had too many inside, dark scenes so they wanted something with more exteriors.

Not sure how much sense that makes given that Curse of the Black Spot was set entirely at night, but oh well.

[Londoner]

Meh. This is fucking SHIT.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I dunno. I liked this new episode. Much better than the last one.

[Londoner]

I strongly disagree. Switched it off with 10 mins to go. Other one kept me interested though.

[The Destroyer]

Took a bit of time to get going, but I really enjoyed it. Definite improvement on last week.

[Londoner]

Have also read that some are saying this was the best 'stand alone episode ever' wtf? It was boringly predictable to me if anything.

[Next Big Thing]

I've still got five hours left. The previews made this episode seem like it was going to be pretty good. I'm looking forward to it.

[Londoner]

You'll probably enjoy it. Personally i can't see what the fuss was about. Nothing 'big' actually happened. Was just another filler, to me. there was one bit with the corridor stuff with amy/rory that had my interest, but after that, i was like'yeah ok, here we go again'.

[XCaliber]

The pirates episode was better than I exepected it to be and the preview for tonights episode while the premise sounded good what they showed didn't really wow me.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I was expecting something better, but I still enjoyed it once it got going.

[XCaliber]

So now that I've watched the episode I must say it was nothing to write home about in fact I thought it was falsely advertised and next weeks episode looks pretty crappy imho.

[The Destroyer]

I'm not looking forward to next week much. It's a two parter written by the guy responsible for one of the worst episodes of the modern series (Fear Her from series 2).

Who knows though, maybe it'll be a pleasant surprise.

[Next Big Thing]

Call me crazy, but I liked this episode much better than the pirate one. It was entertaining seeing the Tardis personified.

I do agree that next week's episode looks terrible and if it's a two parter that means 2 episodes of crap, then the mid-season finale before the show goes on hiatus.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Last night's episode was alright, not spectacular or anything, but I have no complaints about it.

[XCaliber]

Must say that it was better than I thought it was going to be but the conclusion of it was so utterly predictable and the the hints were so unneccessary to boot hope the 2nd part can deliver.

[Next Big Thing]

I enjoyed this episode. The hints were maybe over done, but in general this might be my 3rd fave episode of the season, right after the first two premier episodes.

[XL]

Pretty HUGE revelation right there!!

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

BAM!

[The Destroyer]

I did not see that one coming at all.

[Next Big Thing]

I hate you guys right now.

[Next Big Thing]

Loved the episode. Not a bad back to back showing at all. This last episode seems like it's going to be epic.

[Dave Youell]

WOW!

Trying to explain all that to my 6 year old was tough!

Good revelations though

[XCaliber]

Alright so it looks like here they decided to split the season at Rebel Flesh here in Canada DAMMIT!

[The Destroyer]

Nah The Almost People is on this coming Saturday in Canada.

Not sure why you've suddenly gone a week behind.

[XCaliber]

Don't get it the channel that plays it was showing that Shoot'Em Up in it's timeslot instead grrr the week before I could understand because of Victoria Day long weekend but this past one makes no sense.

[XL]

Watch it online?

[PapaGeorgio]

I know US was delayed for Memorial Day weekend, so could be extension of that. I downloaded it either cause wouldn't be able to wait, despite the fact I dont have cable...

[Next Big Thing]

I just downloaded it. I think that's what I'm going to start doing instead of waiting for it to show here.

[XL]

I sent XCaliber a YT link for the last ep that isn't region restricted, I could post them here whenever they show up? Official BBC too so the quality is good.

[Next Big Thing]

Definitely

[XL]

Hmmmmmmmm, I'm having second thoughts now. XCaliber didn't even rep me for my troubles. (Dr) Who the hell does he think he is??

[XL]

Saw the trailer for Saturday's ep, looks pretty epic.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Annoys me that we will have to wait until Spetember (?) for the rest of the season. I think Torchwood is back in July, so that should fill the void somewhat.

[Next Big Thing]

Torchwood is absolutely horrible. Especially since they killed all the good characters off (minus Jack of course). Not even the pedophile aliens from Children of Earth could save the series for me.

[Next Big Thing]

Hmmmmmmmm, I'm having second thoughts now. XCaliber didn't even rep me for my troubles. (Dr) Who the hell does he think he is??

Rep whore.

[XL]

Yep.

Tis ok though. The situation has been rectified.

[XL]

HEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE GO!!

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Nice ending, probably slightly obvious if you overthink things while watching them like I don't.

Bit disappointed the Cybermen weren't used more, since they're probably my favourite villain species, as it turns out they probably weren't needed at all since the Silurians and Sontaran nurse had all the screen time. Judoon seemed tacked in too.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Currently awaiting the TARDIS to turn up to take me to September.

[Londoner]

Enjoyed it though didn't feel like paying too much attention to it. I've really gone off this series ever since the first two episodes.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Surely "Let's Kill Hitler" is enough to make you want to come back? :D

[Londoner]

Never said i didn't want to come back to it! Just its yet to 'wow' me again.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

The first two eps DID set the bar ridiculously high, tbh.

[Londoner]

that is true.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Except for the ending, I was kinda underwhelmed by the episode.

[Next Big Thing]

So I started a download almost immediately after the show aired UK time. It took me five hours, I open it... and the audio is out of sync.

[XL]

That's shitty. Is it on tonight for you guys?

[Next Big Thing]

Doesn't even come on till next week here. I scored another DL and watched it though.

I was more excited in the build up than I was for the end. All the Doctor's old allies/nemesis coming together was pretty epic and then it went down hill. Once the baby's name was revealed I put two and two together pretty quick.

The thing is, I can't help but feel like it's all down hill from here for this season. We know there's a happy ending to this twist by the very existence of certain characters through all the different points in time. I don't see them being able to get the intrigue and suspense back in the second half that the first two eps had.

[Next Big Thing]

Do you guys in the UK have trailers for an episode called "Time Runs Out?" I watched a UK torrent rip of the finale and it said Doctor Who would return with "Let's Kill Hitler" but over here we've got a trailer that shows a skeleton's hand holding a flickering sonic screwdriver... which has me much more pumped than an episode based around Hitler but I'm wondering if it's the same episode, just a different title.

[The Destroyer]

It's not a trailer for an episode, it's just a teaser for the second half of the series as a whole.

[Kane Knight]

Downloading the season now, but from the previews, reviews, spoilers, and other stuff I've seen, the season looks REALLY good. However, I don't see anything that couldn't have been done without the cliffhanger. I mean, the River reveal was cool (Not sure I truly like it, butstill), but it didn't need a layover until September to do.

[Next Big Thing]

http://fatlacemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/spoilers-ahead.jpg

Well Maybe....


I think the Doctor and his ganger switched places at the end of the Almost People episode. The ganger was the one who sensed that Amy was pregnant and revealed who she truly was in the end inside the Tardis. Plus, it would allow the ganger to be the one killed by River.

[Kane Knight]

http://fatlacemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/spoilers-ahead.jpg

Well Maybe....


I think the Doctor and his ganger switched places at the end of the Almost People episode. The ganger was the one who sensed that Amy was pregnant and revealed who she truly was in the end inside the Tardis. Plus, it would allow the ganger to be the one killed by River.

But don't they dissolve or something when killed? I thought "The flesh" did that every time. What I've read certainly implied that.

[Next Big Thing]

True. But the Doctor is a time lord while the others were mere human. I think that could be where the twist comes in.

I'm probably reaching with all this, but unless they plan on making River the new doctor for awhile I feel like that would be the easiest out for them.

[Kane Knight]

If that's the case, I may get amnesia from the impending headdesk.

[Gray]

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Series restarting soon it seems.

[Kane Knight]

I need a mop.

[Next Big Thing]

August 27th baby!

[XCaliber]

Looking at this footage it's hard to say if it will be as good as the 1st half or not either way I can't wait.

[Kane Knight]

Looking at this footage it's hard to say if it will be as good as the 1st half or not either way I can't wait.
There's enough to get me slobbering like Pavlov's dogs, but honestly, I don't know if it's actually going to be good. This trailer does tease us properly, though.

[El Fangel]

KK, when has Doctor Who EVER disappointed?

[PapaGeorgio]

KK, when has Doctor Who EVER disappointed?

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[The Destroyer]

Don't forget Fear Her. It was terrible.

[El Fangel]

Ok, Fear Her wasn't that good. Love and Monsters I think was decent and I thought a sidestory might come from it ala Torchwood.

Still, 2 mediocre episodes in 6 seasons is pretty good.

[The Destroyer]

The Doctor's Daughter was pretty shit too, come to think of it.

[Londoner]

There are tons of shit ones, wouldn't be able to name them off the top of my head though.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Season finales tend to be a bit naff on Dr Who.

[El Fangel]

The Doctor's Daughter was pretty shit too, come to think of it.

Hath made up for it.

[Kane Knight]

KK, when has Doctor Who EVER disappointed?

PG beat me to it. Love and Monsters has to be the worst post-revival Doctor Who episode. I would be utterly shocked it another episode was that bad for a long time, though.

There have been some pretty bad ones, it's just that they get absorbed by the good. Farting aliens? Pretty bad. The episodes, however, had some good moments. Plus, "Boom Town" had Jack in it. And the scene where the Slytheen was trying to kill the Doctor in the restaurant is awesome.

The entire "Bad Wolf" reveal was pretty weak. Davies ex Machina tends to suck in general, but when it was a big plot reveal, it REALLY sucked.

Fear Her was dumb, but nowhere near on the level of L&M.

There are few truly TERRIBLE episodes, but there have been letdowns.

But down challenge me, Fan Gel, because I'm a completely new man.I could bring down your faith with a single word.

....

No, you're right. Not a single word.

Just five.

Five words.

Five.

"I don't want to go!"

Fuck you, RTD.

[Kane Knight]

Hath made up for it.

Ohhh...You're a clever Hath....

[El Fangel]

Ok ok, I take it back but a lot of episodes have been excellent.

[Kane Knight]

Ok ok, I take it back but a lot of episodes have been excellent.

I agree. I also have enjoyed it even more since Moffat took over. My least favourite Season 5 episodes still rank in at "pretty good." And season 6 was strong so far.

[Next Big Thing]

Burn With Me was pretty bad too in my opinion.

[Kane Knight]

Burn With Me was pretty bad too in my opinion.
42?

The British should not try and do horror.

[The Destroyer]

Rubbish, we do horror well. Sometimes.

[Kane Knight]

Keep that up, and I'll get RTD to write a series about farting aliens stalking virgins in a small town in the UK.

[Next Big Thing]

That wouldn't be much different than Children of Earth where we had pedo aliens seeking half the world's children because they "made them feel good."

[Kane Knight]

That wouldn't be much different than Children of Earth where we had pedo aliens seeking half the world's children because they "made them feel good."

And that was pretty awful.

[Next Big Thing]

Definitely. At least he's getting this season of Torchwood right.

[Kane Knight]

I'll have to wait and see. I don't want to torrent this shit since Comcast is throttling my arse. So not worth it.

[El Fangel]

Favorite Episodes were Blink and A Good Man Goes to War.

[Kane Knight]

Favorite Episodes were Blink and A Good Man Goes to War.

The Eleventh Hour is waaaaay better than a Good Man Goes to War.

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[El Fangel]

That was an absolutely excellent episode as well.

[Kane Knight]

Also, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead.

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[El Fangel]

Am I the only one creeped out by the shadow piranhas, narish havada or however its spelt.

[Kane Knight]

Am I the only one creeped out by the shadow piranhas, narish havada or however its spelt.

You mean Vasta Innagaddadavida?

[El Fangel]

Uh, yeah. That.

Also, The Empty Child was an absolutely incredible story.

[El Fangel]

http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/weeping-angels_l.jpg

[Next Big Thing]

The Empty Child was good shit. Completely forgot about that episode.

[Next Big Thing]

You mean Vasta Innagaddadavida?

You mean Vashta Nerada? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.





Didn't like that episode much.

[Kane Knight]

Uh, yeah. That.

Also, The Empty Child was an absolutely incredible story.

Moffat likes using relatively ordinary fears. The shadows, cracks in your wall, creepy stone statues....

And you will notice most of these episodes were Moffat. God, I love that guy.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances are awesome for many reasons. They're dark but charming, with an actual happy ending (Which seems to be really rare in Doctor Who), they introduce Jack (Who is awesome in DW but sucks in TW). The enemy is tremendous, and the backdrop is wonderful. I'd like the new Who from the beginning, and I think Eclleston helped sell me on it, but this was what really got me.

You mean Vashta Nerada? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.





Didn't like that episode much.

Just for that, I'm telling the weeping angels.

http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/weeping-angels_l.jpg

That's right, motherfucker...Blink and you're dead.

[Kane Knight]

http://fatlacemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/spoilers-ahead.jpg

Well Maybe....


I think the Doctor and his ganger switched places at the end of the Almost People episode. The ganger was the one who sensed that Amy was pregnant and revealed who she truly was in the end inside the Tardis. Plus, it would allow the ganger to be the one killed by River.

Sorry to go back so far, but didn't the Ganger liquefy at the end of the episodes related to them?

Rubbish, we do horror well. Sometimes.

Also, the previews for Doctor Who are some awful shit. They take all the suspense out of the episode.

Daleks are going to be in it, but only at the very end? Show them in the preview. Mysterious villain? We don't want to scare the kiddies, so it's in the preview! The only time they didn't fuck shit up in the first four seasons was Blink. And that surprised me, because I expected the preview to be as climax-destroying....

I used to think Douglas Adams was being satirical by revealing the outcome of the first major crisis aboard the heart of gold to avoid stress, then I started watching British TV Shows on DVD with the previews intact. Then I realised he was being dead serious. You fuckers are afraid of suspense!

[The Destroyer]

It's a common thing with Doctor Who really. They want the publicity for returning stuff, so it inevitably gets splashed all over the front of the Radio Times or wherever.

There's only a few times where they've managed to keep things really, really secret. It's virtually impossible these days.

[Kane Knight]

It's a common thing with Doctor Who really. They want the publicity for returning stuff, so it inevitably gets splashed all over the front of the Radio Times or wherever.

There's only a few times where they've managed to keep things really, really secret. It's virtually impossible these days.

There's "keeping it secret" and "not advertising it in the promo with exclamation points!!!!!"

The former is borderline impossible. It's also not what I'm complaining about.

And the "give it away in the preview" seems to be common enough any British series I have with any drama in it does the same, provided the previews are actually shown on the DVDs. Since, you know, I don't get BBC natively. Though BBC America broadcasts the same promos usually. As opoposed to Sci Fi, who go to the other extreme and try to lie to you.

...You know, I really don't miss watching Doctor Who on Sci Fi.

[The Destroyer]

At least they don't really do what they used to do. Name stories *something* of the Daleks and then have the cliffhanger at the end of the first episode be their "shocking" appearance.

People in TV obviously value the pull of a certain returning element rather than surprising viewers.

[Next Big Thing]

Honestly, the Doctor Who previews don't bother me that much because the episodes themselves are usually still entertaining leading up to the spoiled build up and provide lots of little hints to the doctor's backstory or things to come.

[Kane Knight]

At least they don't really do what they used to do. Name stories *something* of the Daleks and then have the cliffhanger at the end of the first episode be their "shocking" appearance.

People in TV obviously value the pull of a certain returning element rather than surprising viewers.

Except "Daleks in Manhatten."

While it wasn't the end of part 1 that served as a cliffhanger, they still named it such and then had most of the first ep revolver around pigmen. Which was pretty damn dumb. Mostly because who gives a fuck about pigmen?

[Kane Knight]

Honestly, the Doctor Who previews don't bother me that much because the episodes themselves are usually still entertaining leading up to the spoiled build up and provide lots of little hints to the doctor's backstory or things to come.

I'd personally just prefer not seeing them in the credits for the prior episode. My mom, one of the least observant people ever, caught the Daleks in one of the previews.

While it's not a tragedy of epic proportions, it's an annoyance. Like most of the big endings being asspulls. It's fucking retarded to be all "Surprise! Suspense!" And then be all "oh, by the way, Daleks/Cybermen/River Song dies!"

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I wish they would give the Daleks a rest. What I gathered from the preview for the second half of the new series, the Weeping Angels are going to return. They are going to ruin them by over usage.

[XL]

They've said that we won't see the Daleks in this series/for a while. So, wish granted, I guess.

[Londoner]

Except "Daleks in Manhatten."

While it wasn't the end of part 1 that served as a cliffhanger, they still named it such and then had most of the first ep revolver around pigmen. Which was pretty damn dumb. Mostly because who gives a fuck about pigmen?

Oh yeh, the pigmen were awful.

[Kane Knight]

I wish they would give the Daleks a rest. What I gathered from the preview for the second half of the new series, the Weeping Angels are going to return. They are going to ruin them by over usage.

The Angels are already starting to suck by having been used more than once. They're less mysterious and scary. Moffat actually "forgot" to send someone back in time....

I'm basically saying these were the guys who almost completely fucked the Doctor before, and he only got out because of a stable time loop. This time, they had him like 900 times.

Oh yeh, the pigmen were awful.

To be fair, they were kinda worthy of the bad period accents, the stage show, and the gay tentacle rape.

[Next Big Thing]

I wish they would give the Daleks a rest. What I gathered from the preview for the second half of the new series, the Weeping Angels are going to return. They are going to ruin them by over usage.

I must say that RTD used the Weeping Angels much better than Moffatt. They should be left alone for awhile.

[Kane Knight]

I must say that RTD used the Weeping Angels much better than Moffatt. They should be left alone for awhile.

To be fair, RTD was too busy deep throating the Doctor and his old enemies to be bothered.

Plus, it couldn't have sat well that Moffat's Angels were more popular than his creations.

But maybe that was a good thing.

On the other hand, it also meant fifteen "last of the Daleks" episodes, as opposed to one (so far, anyway), Cybermen both awesome and silly (Though Moffat did both in one episode), and a Master everyone seemed to hate. But honestly, I think if you're crazy enough to send giant soccer balls with ginsus in them down to eliminate the planet, you're probably crazy enough to do it to Europop.

Speaking of, there's another pointless kill off.

Though not to put all the blame on RTD, I didn't particularly think bring back the Angels ws a good idea. I'm underwhelmed by the "reveal" of who River is, and the whole "Medicap ship stalking humans" thing is eerily similar to the Moffat-penned "The Empty Child/the Doctor Dances." Only, you know, not as good. Sexy Siren was still decent, and proves that Doctor Who can put on a better pirate story than Disney, but STILL.

Anyway, RTD really misused a lot, so I can sorta live with S&M misusing his own creaation. I'm not pleased, but....

[Next Big Thing]

I loved the Master. Damn you.

The River reveal was a bit underwhelming. We can agree on that I guess. Which is one of the reasons why I'm kind of down on the second half of the season. I feel like the first 4 episodes will probably revolve around saving baby River/ Rory getting killed off and being revived and only the last two will be anything worthwhile in terms of reveals or shocking surprises.

[Kane Knight]

I loved the Master. Damn you.

The River reveal was a bit underwhelming. We can agree on that I guess. Which is one of the reasons why I'm kind of down on the second half of the season. I feel like the first 4 episodes will probably revolve around saving baby River/ Rory getting killed off and being revived and only the last two will be anything worthwhile in terms of reveals or shocking surprises.

I just supported him, didn't I?

The first ep back, "Let's Kill Hitler," confuses me greatly. It doesn't seem like it has any tie to the current story arc, so....

On the other hand, we'both in agreement that Rory will "die" several times in the newxt half....

[Taker it Easy]

I LOVE TENNANT! I LOVE SERIES 1-4, marked out at series 4, and enjoy the old seasons as well. I enjoyed series 5 and was on the fence concerning Matt Smith. Why? Because he clearly seems to be a jackoff for hipsters and an attempt to draw in younger fans rather than produce quality TV to draw in fans. He is a jackoff for younger fans in the same way the movie Paul is a jackoff for comic con type of people.

I was not settled on this point of view until series 6. It is just lack luster and that says a lot because I would never before miss a DW episode and now I can go without it.

WHERE IS MY TENNANT! BY GOD I HOPE YOU RULE HOLLYWOOD SOMETIME.

[Kane Knight]

I LOVE TENNANT! I LOVE SERIES 1-4, marked out at series 4, and enjoy the old seasons as well. I enjoyed series 5 and was on the fence concerning Matt Smith. Why? Because he clearly seems to be a jackoff for hipsters and an attempt to draw in younger fans rather than produce quality TV to draw in fans. He is a jackoff for younger fans in the same way the movie Paul is a jackoff for comic con type of people.

I was not settled on this point of view until series 6. It is just lack luster and that says a lot because I would never before miss a DW episode and now I can go without it.

WHERE IS MY TENNANT! BY GOD I HOPE YOU RULE HOLLYWOOD SOMETIME.

I hear a lot of hipsters are Patrick Troughton fans.

[XL]

I prefer Smith to Tennant. Must be a hipster :-\

[Kane Knight]

I prefer Smith to Tennant. Must be a hipster :-\

I hear most Hipsters enjoy constantly being the butt of their companions' jokes.

[The Destroyer]

The prequel to Let's Kill Hitler is up on the BBC Doctor Who website.

Although probably only for people in the UK.

[El Fangel]

Tennant imo was the best doctor.

As for the angels, they created one of the best original monsters ever, made people look at statues with suspicion and made 4, yes, 4 of them nigh unstoppable.

Then they have a planet of them where they are easily outdone. And yes I agree, we all know Daleks will be back, no need of telling us the fucking episode before.

[XL]

I hear most Hipsters enjoy constantly being the butt of their companions' jokes.
Then I must not be a hipster for my companions are most often the butt of my jokes! :D

[Kane Knight]

Tennant imo was the best doctor.

As for the angels, they created one of the best original monsters ever, made people look at statues with suspicion and made 4, yes, 4 of them nigh unstoppable.

Then they have a planet of them where they are easily outdone. And yes I agree, we all know Daleks will be back, no need of telling us the fucking episode before.

I don't like judging people when they're still running the show. Comparing Tennant's body of three seasons plus several specials to Smith's one (point five) season is a little rough. Especially when Tennant started off with a couple of REALLY bad episodes (Not counting the Christmas invasion). Smith is, at the very least, competent in the role and I love his Doctor, but he's new.

The planet of weeping angels weren't easily outdone. It takes two episodes and the Doctor has to fuck up royally before they know how boned they are.

There's a lot I don't like about those episodes, but the Angles were a real threat. Weakened, but a threat.

Then I must not be a hipster for my companions are most often the butt of my jokes! :D

Sweet!

[El Fangel]

I don't like judging people when they're still running the show. Comparing Tennant's body of three seasons plus several specials to Smith's one (point five) season is a little rough. Especially when Tennant started off with a couple of REALLY bad episodes (Not counting the Christmas invasion). Smith is, at the very least, competent in the role and I love his Doctor, but he's new.

The planet of weeping angels weren't easily outdone. It takes two episodes and the Doctor has to fuck up royally before they know how boned they are.

There's a lot I don't like about those episodes, but the Angles were a real threat. Weakened, but a threat.


You misunderstood me, I think Smith is excellent as the Doctor.

Perhaps stating that Tennant is my favorite so far that I have seen would be more accurate, though it can change. Tennant had the look like he could explain the theory of relativity to a wall and have it show it understood him.

I think the thing that puts me off is that Smith looks younger then his companion and that hasn't happened before or so I believe.

As for the angels, Blink as I said was excellent for the reasons we agree on. However they went from Dalek level enemy to a lot less IMO due to having a a planet of them foiled.

Blink had an immensely complex story and your jaw dropped at how the doctor managed to get out of it and made the angels something you knew not to screw with.

The planet of them made them look so much less dangerous.

[Kane Knight]

You misunderstood me, I think Smith is excellent as the Doctor.

Perhaps stating that Tennant is my favorite so far that I have seen would be more accurate, though it can change. Tennant had the look like he could explain the theory of relativity to a wall and have it show it understood him.

I think the thing that puts me off is that Smith looks younger then his companion and that hasn't happened before or so I believe.

As for the angels, Blink as I said was excellent for the reasons we agree on. However they went from Dalek level enemy to a lot less IMO due to having a a planet of them foiled.

Blink had an immensely complex story and your jaw dropped at how the doctor managed to get out of it and made the angels something you knew not to screw with.

The planet of them made them look so much less dangerous.

I don't misunderstand you, I merely expanded on the whole "who's better" thing.

Blink's story wasn't all that complex. It was just well-crafted and suspenseful. It's also an episode which deals with a small cast of people who don't know what's going on, which makes them more dangerous.

The planet of them being foiled comes down as much to luck as anything. Though honestly, it's not like I'm in love with the episodes. Part of what made them so good was they were commonplace. Take that away, the thought thatthye could be anywhere, and put them in a place where every statue is an angel, and it's less effective.

Still, it does have the benefit of putting the Doctor on the defensive for most of two episodes in a way we've rarely seen in the revived series. It's not wholly unique, but it is kind of cool for that.

Still, majorly hoping they manage to do more "blink" with the new eps. Because if we've gotta have the Angels, let's make them cool.

[El Fangel]

I don't misunderstand you, I merely expanded on the whole "who's better" thing.

Blink's story wasn't all that complex. It was just well-crafted and suspenseful. It's also an episode which deals with a small cast of people who don't know what's going on, which makes them more dangerous.

The planet of them being foiled comes down as much to luck as anything. Though honestly, it's not like I'm in love with the episodes. Part of what made them so good was they were commonplace. Take that away, the thought thatthye could be anywhere, and put them in a place where every statue is an angel, and it's less effective.

Still, it does have the benefit of putting the Doctor on the defensive for most of two episodes in a way we've rarely seen in the revived series. It's not wholly unique, but it is kind of cool for that.

Still, majorly hoping they manage to do more "blink" with the new eps. Because if we've gotta have the Angels, let's make them cool.

I attempted to shed the impression I gave that is a better Doctor, Tennant in my opinion I enjoyed the most so far and Eccleston was only a season, Smith not even half so he has time to sway me.

I immediately liked Tennant, so perhaps that's why I liked him better.

I think we agree about the angels, they were so badass and the thought of them anywhere and anytime made them scary. Knowing there are hundreds if not thousands of them for some weird reason makes them less scary.

As for the episode, the end is how the episode began. How he figured out how to otsmart the angels. It really was a brilliant story with an amazing twist and I believe it was nominated for several awards as well.

Lastly, I have searched IMDB and there are few tv episodes rated that high or were as well received

[PapaGeorgio]

For some reason decided to watch Tennants last two episodes last night. Hated how cheesy some aspects were, like the more serious/darker tone Smith-era seems to be taking. I loved Tennant as a Doctor though and always thought he'd be my favorite. But Smith really surprised me and I think I may be liking him more than Tennant in some ways. May have to rewatch everything to be sure.

[Next Big Thing]

Tennant is my favorite. I think he would have thrived under this more serious/darker themed era while Smith based on his delivery and look seems like he would have done better under the slightly lighter toned RTD era. That's not to say Smith is bad, just that Tennant is better.

[El Fangel]

I just thought it over and I can't think of a single reason Hitler Must Die won't be fucking epic.

[Kane Knight]

I attempted to shed the impression I gave that is a better Doctor, Tennant in my opinion I enjoyed the most so far and Eccleston was only a season, Smith not even half so he has time to sway me.

I immediately liked Tennant, so perhaps that's why I liked him better.

I think we agree about the angels, they were so badass and the thought of them anywhere and anytime made them scary. Knowing there are hundreds if not thousands of them for some weird reason makes them less scary.

As for the episode, the end is how the episode began. How he figured out how to otsmart the angels. It really was a brilliant story with an amazing twist and I believe it was nominated for several awards as well.

Lastly, I have searched IMDB and there are few tv episodes rated that high or were as well received

As far as first impressions, Smith sold me in his regeneration scene. And by the time the Eleventh Hour was over, I was all over him.

Blink ended how it began which has been done. It's a stable time loop. It's so frequent it has an entry or possibly more on TV Tropes. It's good, but not brilliant.

For some reason decided to watch Tennants last two episodes last night. Hated how cheesy some aspects were, like the more serious/darker tone Smith-era seems to be taking. I loved Tennant as a Doctor though and always thought he'd be my favorite. But Smith really surprised me and I think I may be liking him more than Tennant in some ways. May have to rewatch everything to be sure.

Do you mean episodes, or the specials?

Kinda hated the End of Time.

Loved the last couple episodes of series 4 though. There were some bad, even cheesey elements, but....I cared more for Donna leaving than any other member of the cast at that point.

I just thought it over and I can't think of a single reason Hitler Must Die won't be fucking epic.

1. If it's written by RTD
2. If John Cena comes in.
4. No, 3. Hitler is a Time Lord! ...Actually, that could still be fucking epic.
D. Mormon allegory.
E. or 5. Or possibly that roman numeral thing. Hitler Sparkles.

[El Fangel]

As far as first impressions, Smith sold me in his regeneration scene. And by the time the Eleventh Hour was over, I was all over him.

Blink ended how it began which has been done. It's a stable time loop. It's so frequent it has an entry or possibly more on TV Tropes. It's good, but not brilliant.


1. If it's written by RTD
2. If John Cena comes in.
4. No, 3. Hitler is a Time Lord! ...Actually, that could still be fucking epic.
D. Mormon allegory.
E. or 5. Or possibly that roman numeral thing. Hitler Sparkles.

I don't know why, perhaps because I heard that Tennant was a huge DW fan and was a life dream to play him that I knew he loved the role and played to the best of his ability.

With Blink, I love its the gold standard for reference. They created an absolutely terrifying monster and did a great story as well. It was interesting for me, because after I watched it, I watched it again to see how everything fit together so well having already viewed the ending. I think you know what I am trying to say here that it was one of those "special" episodes that you always rememer (Like Empty Child/Doctor Dances, The Eleventh Hour, A Good Man Goes To War.)

1) What the fuck
2A) are you
4) talking
Q) about?

[Kane Knight]

Ways it could suck. Duh.

[El Fangel]

Explain D and E, Also 2C Part 1A Version 3.334 as well.

[Kane Knight]

Mormon allegory and Hitler Sparkles?

They're both references to Twilight.

Though the first one was also referential to Battlestar Galactica.

Mormons. They everywhere, yo.

[El Fangel]

I got the sparkles thing, the mormon thing took a second. I think Meyer is more of an idiot for her writing then her beliefs so I always forget about her and the other spirit children.

[Kane Knight]

Well, her writings are Mormon inspired. So the suck is partially due to her religious beliefs.

[El Fangel]

Back on topic, 10 days!!!

[Kane Knight]

RTD is a Mormon, so it was totally on topic. Why do you think the Doctor wore magic underpants?

[El Fangel]

So he wouldnt shit himself if he came face to face with an angel?

[Next Big Thing]

Well you two have ruined page 5 for me thanks with your allegories and Mormon talk. You both can officially go face fuck a weeping angel.

FAngel, your enthusiasm for the show is enough to get me hyped for the return. Seeing you devolve into a Doctor Who fanboy is both exciting and astonishing.

If you guys thought breaking the season up for three months was bad, the next season of Doctor Who will be split between 2012 and 2013.

[Kane Knight]

Well you two have ruined page 5 for me thanks with your allegories and Mormon talk. You both can officially go face fuck a weeping angel.

FAngel, your enthusiasm for the show is enough to get me hyped for the return. Seeing you devolve into a Doctor Who fanboy is both exciting and astonishing.

If you guys thought breaking the season up for three months was bad, the next season of Doctor Who will be split between 2012 and 2013.

We're only on page 2. Is this time travel?

They're going for...A year break?

FUCK YOU, BBC.

[Kane Knight]

So he wouldnt shit himself if he came face to face with an angel?

This is why Matt Smith is superior. Eleven needs no magic underwear!

[Next Big Thing]

Hmmm. It's page 5 for me.

[Kane Knight]

Hmmm. It's page 5 for me.

Different page views. Don't worry.

[El Fangel]

Well we know whats going to happen in Dec 2012 now don't we.

Im going to explode from impatience and cause the world to crumble.

[XL]

I'm on Page 20!

[Next Big Thing]

Well we know whats going to happen in Dec 2012 now don't we.

Im going to explode from impatience and cause the world to crumble.

Honestly, the way Torchwood has been going, if they have that show to fill the void between seasons I don't think I'll mind it so much.

[XL]

Also...

Rose, Martha and Donna will make appearances in Let's Kill Hitler.

[Next Big Thing]

Freema Agyeman and her sweet ass + Karen Gillan are all I need to watch that episode.

[Kane Knight]

Well we know whats going to happen in Dec 2012 now don't we.

Im going to explode from impatience and cause the world to crumble.

In a sea of fire and cum.

I'm on Page 20!

Ha! Loser!

Honestly, the way Torchwood has been going, if they have that show to fill the void between seasons I don't think I'll mind it so much.

Haven't seen it yet. I'll probably wait til I can Netflix it, because nothing before this has made me scream GIMME!

Also...

Rose, Martha and Donna will make appearances in Let's Kill Hitler.

Which is weird, because aside from shots of the prior Doctors, it sort of seemed like they were distancing themselves from the RTD era.

I'm not complaining, though. Just saying it's weird.

We need more Barrowman, though.

*shakes fist* BARROWMAN!

[XL]

More Barrowman!? That motherfucker is never off TV over here!

[Kane Knight]

More Barrowman!? That motherfucker is never off TV over here!

I meant specifically in Doctor Who.

Though honestly, I'll take him off your hands....

[Next Big Thing]

I'm not gay or nothing, but ummmm.... dude looks good for 44. He has an excellent plastic surgeon. I'm just saying... If I was gay... Or... You know... drunk and feeling experimental.... he'd be hard to pass up. #Knowwhatimsayin?

[Next Big Thing]

Do you guys think they'll ever have a Doctor who isn't of caucasian descent? If so, how do you think that would go over?

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Which is weird, because aside from shots of the prior Doctors, it sort of seemed like they were distancing themselves from the RTD era.

I'm not complaining, though. Just saying it's weird.


Same here. Especially as they did all that farewell stuff at the end of the last Tennant special. I can kinda see Martha coming back, as she is still in the alien business of sort, but as for the rest, I don't see the point.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Do you guys think they'll ever have a Doctor who isn't of caucasian descent? If so, how do you think that would go over?

He needs to go ginger first.

[XCaliber]

Do you guys think they'll ever have a Doctor who isn't of caucasian descent? If so, how do you think that would go over?

He needs to go ginger first.

Think the odds of he becoming a she are just as likely.

[Kane Knight]

I'm not gay or nothing, but ummmm.... dude looks good for 44. He has an excellent plastic surgeon. I'm just saying... If I was gay... Or... You know... drunk and feeling experimental.... he'd be hard to pass up. #Knowwhatimsayin?

NO HOMO, BUT I'd totally fuck him in the ass.

[Kane Knight]

Same here. Especially as they did all that farewell stuff at the end of the last Tennant special. I can kinda see Martha coming back, as she is still in the alien business of sort, but as for the rest, I don't see the point.

Yeah, Donna is out of the picture and Rose should just <s>fuck off and die</s> go away.

I have trouble picturing them fitting, but I guess we'll see.

Think the oods of he becoming a she are just as likely.

"This sonic screwdriver has THREE settings."

or however it went.

[Next Big Thing]

I think Martha Jones would have been on Torchwood but there were scheduling conflicts between that and Law & Order UK so the actress wasn't able to sign on.

[Kane Knight]

I think Martha Jones would have been on Torchwood but there were scheduling conflicts between that and Law & Order UK so the actress wasn't able to sign on.

That would have been awesome. I mean, I haven't seen the new Torchwood, but I liked her more than any of the cannon fodder Jack kept around.

Law & Order UK? That must be pretty boring most of the time.

[El Fangel]

Question, who was/is your favorite companion of the reboot? Mine by far is Martha.

[XL]

I'd say Amy but I've only "seriously" got into the Who with the start of Smith's run.

Martha seemed more like a real person than a characture as I feel Donna and Rose had a tendancy to do.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Amy is scrumptious.

Martha is my least favourite. I always found her a bit irritating. The actress ain't too bad on L&O:UK, though.

[El Fangel]

Hated Donna with a goddamn passion.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I dunno. Tennant and Tate seemed to have a pretty good chemistry.

[Kane Knight]

Hated Donna with a goddamn passion.

Donna>You and your bitch Sascha.

[PapaGeorgio]

between Donna and Amy for me. Rose was f'n awful. Martha seemed bland, wasn't much of an improvement on Rose.

[El Fangel]

Martha > Amy > Rose > Donna

[Kane Knight]

Martha > Amy > Donna >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rose

That's closer to correct.

[Kane Knight]

between Donna and Amy for me. Rose was f'n awful. Martha seemed bland, wasn't much of an improvement on Rose.

Except Martha was at least smart and useful. Rose's sole reason to exist was to serve as a Mary Sue who everybody loved (for some reason) and who was fixated on the Doctor (For a slightly easier to explain reason).

Martha's personality was kinda meh, but she managed to actually justify her presence. That's WAY better than Rose IMO.

Plus, she ALMOST had a character arc.

Which is why Donna is so awesome. She starts off an annoying twat, but she develops into a slightly less annoying twat with some serious character.

And Amy strikes me as how Rose really should have been done. Plus, it was nice to see a male love interest the Doctor wasn't constantly measuring dick size with.

[Next Big Thing]

Martha is definitely my favorite. I think Rose was necessary as the damsel in distress/ starry eyed companion in the reboot. She added to the allure and the mystique of the Doctor whereas a strong willed character like Donna or Amy would have been too much too soon.

Donna did get better in the end but she is still my least favorite.

[Kane Knight]

The Damsel in Distress doesn't need to be a Mary Sue.

I swear, she was a RTD self-insert.

[El Fangel]

Dear jesus what have I become?

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[Kane Knight]

At least you didn't blame it on the Cybermen.

[El Fangel]

Who?

[Kane Knight]

Your mom.

[El Fangel]

What's a mom?

[El Fangel]

Oh god, the angels are coming.

[Kane Knight]

Oh god, the angels are coming.

Good. hope they send you to Hull at the turn of the 20th century. You deserve it for being such a Sascha.

[El Fangel]

Sadly I still remember who Sascha is.

[Kane Knight]

Sadly I still remember who Sascha is.

The Chameleon Arch must have fucked up.

[Next Big Thing]

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You guys seen this?

I think that's the gift and curse of this entire storyline. The lead up to River being revealed as Amy's daughter was great, but now that we know and can assume she grows up safe and sound to become River, the thought of the Doctor tearing through the galaxy to find her isn't as intriguing to me. Hearing Amy or Rory pester on about finding their baby could get old after awhile too.

The only thing remotely suspenseful will have to do with how they explain away River killing the Doctor, which also isn't as suspenseful since we know Matt Smith has signed on for another season.

Not saying it won't be interesting or that I won't watch, it just seems like this season of Doctor Who was really front loaded in terms of reveals and suspenseful storylines and this second half is mostly going to be about tidying up loose ends and details until the last couple of episodes.

[XCaliber]

That's a rather huge spoiler but maybe it's not all about the destination but rather the journey there itself.

[El Fangel]

Any of you ever read the book named "John dies at the end"?

It is an excellent book and you forget the ending by the time it arrives.

[Kane Knight]

I think that's the gift and curse of this entire storyline. The lead up to River being revealed as Amy's daughter was great, but now that we know and can assume she grows up safe and sound to become River, the thought of the Doctor tearing through the galaxy to find her isn't as intriguing to me. Hearing Amy or Rory pester on about finding their baby could get old after awhile too.

The only thing remotely suspenseful will have to do with how they explain away River killing the Doctor, which also isn't as suspenseful since we know Matt Smith has signed on for another season.

Not saying it won't be interesting or that I won't watch, it just seems like this season of Doctor Who was really front loaded in terms of reveals and suspenseful storylines and this second half is mostly going to be about tidying up loose ends and details until the last couple of episodes.

Yeah, I've been preaching the same since the big "reveal." It's kind of anti-climactic, since we know River grows up. They could play with the "History can be rewritten" thing, but she's such a focal point, I don't see that working. And we really know in the end, even that's not a threat.

Also, we knew they had to have a way out of the Doctor dying, period. Even if Matt Smith didn't sign on for another season, the Doctor being killed mid-regeneration ends the line unless they get out of it. It's not Doctor Who without the Doctor. At the very least, they'd have to find away to allow him to regenerate instead of truly dying and getting a Viking funeral.

Fortunately, there's only six episodes left, so I'm assuming the suspense and drama will be held to a minimum and resolved.

For the argument of "It's the journey, not the destination," I didn't get that from the last episode pre-break.

[El Fangel]

Thats the thing with TV Shows, KK. We know if an actor or actress signs on for another season it usually means that their character in the show will be invincible and instead of "Will they get out of this mess" it becomes "How do they get out of this mess"

To make the show alot better, they shouldn't reveal whether or not an actor signed on or not and leave us truly wondering what COULD happen to the character. For example, if he DIDNT know Smith signed on, could we be sure that Season 7 would be him or not?

Now I would mark out like a motherfucker if we didnt expect him to be back but the Tardis lands and like teases us all episode by not opening and then in the closing minutes when someone is in grave danger, the door opens and Smith walks out and casually states "Oops, I overslept"

[Kane Knight]

Thats the thing with TV Shows, KK. We know if an actor or actress signs on for another season it usually means that their character in the show will be invincible and instead of "Will they get out of this mess" it becomes "How do they get out of this mess"

To make the show alot better, they shouldn't reveal whether or not an actor signed on or not and leave us truly wondering what COULD happen to the character. For example, if he DIDNT know Smith signed on, could we be sure that Season 7 would be him or not?

Now I would mark out like a motherfucker if we didnt expect him to be back but the Tardis lands and like teases us all episode by not opening and then in the closing minutes when someone is in grave danger, the door opens and Smith walks out and casually states "Oops, I overslept"

The point being, the Doctor will be back regardless. We know this even if we don't know it'd be Matt Smith, though we do. Even if BBC is trying to Kill Doctor Who by stretching it out over two years next season, the Doctor will return. Which already means that ending cannot happen.

[El Fangel]

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[Next Big Thing]

Your fanboyness is awesome FAngel. Can't wait to read your reactions to the shows once the season starts.

[El Fangel]

I am trying not to be a fanboy. I just...fuck...I love this show. Sort of in the same way the hopeless 29 year old single female sits on the couch eating haagendaaz and watching Greys Anatomy.

I mean, I rarely watch any sci-fi stuff. Keep in mind, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc I did watch alot but I mean like Stargate and other shows of the sort. So I always dismissed Doctor Who as "Other sci-fi time slot filler junk" as I had not come across any sci-fi I liked in ages and a friend at work suggested Doctor Who and I downloaded the first season and my wife and I were laying in bed watching it on the portable DVD player and she really liked it as well.

We had been seaching for a new show to watch since we burnt through the simpsons, family guy, trailer park boys, kenny vs spenny and supernatural already so this was awesome as there was five full seasons and as time went on the show just got better and better and I didnt ever have to wait till the next episode.

This brings us to the here and now...I am too impatient for this shit.

[Next Big Thing]

I was the exact same way actually. Then I started watching on Netflix after being bored one day and have been hooked ever since.

[El Fangel]

Im glad I started watching it. It truly is an excellent show. Seeing as it it is 48 years old...

[Kane Knight]

http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/memes-reframe-the-most-famous-boy-in-the-wizarding-world.jpg

On the other hand, Harry Potter doesn't eat Fish Custard.

[El Fangel]

He ate a candy that made his ears blow steam...

[Kane Knight]

He ate a candy that made his ears blow steam...

I'm saddened that you know that.

[KIRA]

Hated Donna with a goddamn passion.

I hated her guts at first she was a loud shrieking bitch the dr may as well have been traveling with a howler monkey but she mellowed out in her run as a companion proper

Martha and Amy are my tops Martha just barely edging out Amy in terms of likeability

[Kane Knight]

I hated her guts at first she was a loud shrieking bitch the dr may as well have been traveling with a howler monkey but she mellowed out in her run as a companion proper

Martha and Amy are my tops Martha just barely edging out Amy in terms of likeability

To be fair, she had just had her wedding ruined by a trip to outer space.

Though she was amazingly thick.

Also, on the note of Catherine Tate....

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Fancy Billy Piper, sir?

[KIRA]

To be fair, she had just had her wedding ruined by a trip to outer space.

Though she was amazingly thick.


True and I 'm certain they intended for her to oblivious to the wonders around her just so they could show you that under that warbling harpy is a thoughtful empathetic person who at first chooses to ignore those qualities in favor of the mundane and materialistic

but she still annoyed me if my wedding day consisted of a trip to space in a police box with a 900 yr old time traveler I' d be jarred to say the very least but I would hardly consider my day ruined and the last thing in my mind would be a wedding but like I said that was probably exactly the point.






HA HA I love that sketch.




Am I bothered my liege?

[Kane Knight]

True and I 'm certain they intended for her to oblivious to the wonders around her just so they could show you that under that warbling harpy is a thoughtful empathetic person who at first chooses to ignore those qualities in favor of the mundane and materialistic

but she still annoyed me if my wedding day consisted of a trip to space in a police box with a 900 yr old time traveler I' d be jarred to say the very least but I would hardly consider my day ruined and the last thing in my mind would be a wedding but like I said that was probably exactly the point.






HA HA I love that sketch.




Am I bothered my liege?

Yeah, she's the only regular companion from the RTD era with a real character arc. Martha gets a bit of one, but not really. Jack gets one, and so does Mickety Mick Mickey, but they're not full time companions.

Amy definitely progresses, which makes Rose look worse by comparison, because they're quite similar.

[Kane Knight]

Oh and yeah, the skit is funny. Think it's a retread of the french class one, but with a sonic screwdriver.

[El Fangel]

I think why I liked Martha was because I saw her as the only companion that was an asset not a liability.

[Kane Knight]

I think why I liked Martha was because I saw her as the only companion that was an asset not a liability.

As a Mary Sue, Rose was an asset.