The Official "Team Fortress 2" Thread (game is FREE now)

[Requiem]

Since this is my game of choice for now, and probably even after BF3 comes out, I thought I would start this thread for TF2 to see if there are any regular players of this game (on PC) on TPWW.

If so, maybe we can get some group TF2 nights going. Pretty much addicted to this game.

So, anyone else play this on PC?

If so, my steam ID is HC Pwnography. Add me, and we'll get this ish going.

Edit: ALSO, this game is free2play, meaning you can download it off Steam for free now. There are a couple restrictions on free acounts, but literally all you have to do to become a premium account is purchase a single item from the store. Could be something as cheap as a 50 cent weapon, and it will upgrade your account to Premium.

[Requiem]

This is pretty much one of the best shooters on the market, IMO. For a number of reasons. It's extremely balanced, there is a fantastic community, and Valve still patches it regularly and adds new content all the time.

[Blitz]

Once I get a new laptop I may get this.

[Requiem]

You don't need to purchase it. It is free. Although if you want to become a premium user, all you need to do is purchase ONE 50 cent item from the store, and your account becomes a premium account.

[Requiem]

Also, the system requirements for this game can't be too bad, seeing as it is 4 years old, and you can also turn settings down/off if your computer struggles for some reason.

Me and RoXer have been TF2ing it up for the past month or so and it is a blast. It can be frustrating, but honestly that's only because of some of the people you will play with who have no idea what they're doing. The game mechanics are surprisingly frustration free for the most part. Thank Valve for patching regularly.

[RoXer]

gay ass game

hate it

its dum

[Requiem]

fallen angel everyone!

[RoXer]

Does this mean I have to share all the funny TF2 related stuff I find on Reddit in this thread instead of bombarding you with IMs over Steam?

[Requiem]

I still expect plenty of bombardment, but I'm sure this thread would be made even better by funny TF2 stuff.

[Requiem]

I just want more people to play with us :(

[Requiem]

Feel like there could be some hilarious TPWW hijinks in this game.

[Requiem]

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[LoDownM]

Suck at PC shooters now, so haven't played it except for the day it went free 2 play.

[Blitz]

Can I play this with a USB control pad, or am I required to use keyboard/mouse.

[Requiem]

I would not trust the quality of normal USB control pads. I have found that most, if not all, are shoddy and don't give you the responsiveness you need.

However, RoXer plays this with a 360 controller and does fairly well.

Keyboard/Mouse is superior though, IMO due to a lack of any sort of autoaim as most games with controllers on consoles typically do. However, this isn't really a game about 'precision', save for maybe the sniper class. It's not as competitive an environment as games like Call of Duty are. Each class takes a different kind of skill, and there is something for all types of players, IMO.

[Blitz]

Sexy. I cannot play keyboard/mouse style.

[Requiem]

You should just practice and get better at it. Keyboard/Mouse allows you so much more control over what you're doing.

[Nark Order]

Requiem, add me to steam. I play almost every night of the week.

daysliveon@gmail.com

[Nark Order]

RoXer, go fuck yourself.

And then add me to Steam.

[RoXer]

just as long as tb1 doesn't play also... yucghk

[Requiem]

Added.

[Requiem]

If tb1 played, his spray would be a picture of himself looking smug. I can see it now.

[Nark Order]

Naw, he's PC game illiterate. My brother and I play most night of the week though. My brother is alot better than I an I am but I'm getting there. I like playing Heavy too much and it's a problem. Trying to get good at every class but bleh

[Requiem]

MEH, don't need to be good at all of them. I am absolutely HORRIBLE at scout and soldier, but I have no desire to get better at them. I play them when I feel like 'fucking around' and doing nothing useful.

[Nark Order]

Ill be on tomorrow night I think. At the girlfriend's house right now. FAREWELL

[Blitz]

You should just practice and get better at it. Keyboard/Mouse allows you so much more control over what you're doing.
Just hate the style. Feels too twitchy. Anyways I downloaded this ish. Add moi. RJL85. Though I won't be playing online till I get a proper feel.

[RoXer]

Req and I can run you through a training course of sorts. You'll need it. If you're not properly introduced into the game, you'll hate it.

[RoXer]

Been having problems with my FPS dipping on my screen for no reason at all. Looking into it.

[Requiem]

Yeah, we will run you through some training and some maps probably. Once you get the hang of class tactics, and you know what to do as each one, jumping into online is really the best way to learn. People will always play differently than BOTs.

[Extreme Angle]

funkbro123 on steam. Add me :D

[Nark Order]

RoXer and I just had an incredible game.

[Requiem]

Yeah i'll probably play this in a little bit.

[LoDownM]

I thought about playing this like 15 minutes ago. But then I remembered how terrible I did last night.

[Requiem]

I have plenty of bad nights in this game.. lol.. but it's so much fun when you do something cool that it makes you want to play more so you can do those cool things again.

[LoDownM]

It wasn't a bad night, it was like my 3rd time playing the game, and the first time I've played a shooter on PC for more then 20 minutes in like 5 years.

[Requiem]

Owned this game for literally a year before I gave it a shot. Hated it at first, tbh. Thought it was totally lame because I sucked at it. lol

[El Fangel]

I am downloading and installing this right now, if anyone wants to add me: mmfallenangel582

[Ermaximus]

Ermaximus on Steam.

[El Fangel]

I think the biggest mistake I have ever made in my life is finding out what this game is like. There went 2 hours.

[RoXer]

Req and I can run you through a training course of sorts. You'll need it. If you're not properly introduced into the game, you'll hate it.

[Razzamajazz]

i paid 10 bucks a couple weeks ago for this and it is laggy as hell :mad:

[El Fangel]

It is the most unnoob friendly game I have ever played. Frustrating as hell when my rocket launcher wont kill in 4 hits :mad:

[LoDownM]

Well, it's not supposed to be a realistic shooter like CoD or Battlefield are FA...

[Nark Order]

Fangel, I was just playing with you. And I messaged you, calling you a faggot. Add me, you faggot.

[Nark Order]

i paid 10 bucks a couple weeks ago for this and it is laggy as hell :mad:

Make sure you go to a server with low ping, preferably a server local to your area. There is a search function. If that doesn't help, you need a new computer or video card.

[RoXer]

It is the most unnoob friendly game I have ever played. Frustrating as hell when my rocket launcher wont kill in 4 hits :mad:
Req and I can run you through a training course of sorts. You'll need it. If you're not properly introduced into the game, you'll hate it.

[RoXer]

i paid 10 bucks a couple weeks ago

How many weeks ago?

[LoDownM]

You guys can add me if you want, don't know how much I'll play, I got a ton of games to finish off before Fall when 100 games come out at once. LoDownM, if you can't figure it out.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Just had a pretty amusing game with Narc and Fangel.

[Ermaximus]

It is the most unnoob friendly game I have ever played. Frustrating as hell when my rocket launcher wont kill in 4 hits :mad:

Next time, aim at the enemies feet, and then shoot them in air. 2 hit rocket kills.

Fangel, I was just playing with you. And I messaged you, calling you a faggot. Add me, you faggot.

You add me you faggot.

[Nark Order]

You add me you faggot.

I did, you faggot. You haven't accepted my invitation, you faggot.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

This is the official TPDub Steam group, by the way: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tpdub

[Requiem]

ALSO, I recommend people go into their advanced multiplayer options and mess around with some of the options there. Simplified spy menu, floating numbers, etc..

Especially floating numbers. Played for weeks before I knew this option existed.. lets you know how much damage you just did to someone or how much you're healing someone for.

[Requiem]

i paid 10 bucks a couple weeks ago for this and it is laggy as hell :mad:

Join a different server. Notice you can sort servers by latency, so join one with a low latency. It's different from console games, as there are a lot of player-ran dedicated servers in this game. Some suck, and some are great. Roxer found one with 32 player limit that is pretty much never laggy. But I've found games with 12 people in them that lag to hell and back.

[El Fangel]

Been taking to Req, the learning curve is pretty simple. Just seems I ended a lot of matches as a Meat Sim :(

Oh and fuck spies.

[Razzamajazz]

How many weeks ago?

actually i think it was about a month and a half. and my computer is getting pretty old, cause the training course is what lags like hell

[Verbose Minch]

We should definitely start doing some trading in here. I just found my fourth goddamn useless Boston Basher.

[Requiem]

I just want some fucking hats. I have a strange conniver's kunai, and a bucket of that 216-### whatever numbered paint that I'm trying to get rid of.

Would trade my strange kunai for another strange weapon, and I've heard this paint is actually pretty valuable.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I haz lots of hats. Didn't realise how many I had owned in other games until I booted it up.

Also, RoXer just made me find out that I can't see messages in 3D mode/

[Verbose Minch]

Yeah, the only hat I've ever found was the Grimme Hatte for the Medic. It's a cool hat, but unless there are no medics on the team, I never play him.

[El Fangel]

Getting a lot better since adding the floating numbers.

[El Fangel]

Bought an item so I have premium. Anyone have any soldier gear not being used?

Also hate when my team doesn't have a medic :(

Healed like 3000 today in one life.

[RoXer]

you were playing? I tried joining you but it said you weren't in a joinable game

[El Fangel]

Haven't played in 12 hours, my wife signed on around 4 hours ago to buy the item for me but that's it.

[Verbose Minch]

Bought an item so I have premium. Anyone have any soldier gear not being used?

Also hate when my team doesn't have a medic :(

Healed like 3000 today in one life.

Honestly, the only item you really need for Soldier is the Equalizer. Other than that, all of his base stuff is the best.

Unless you like going solo, then get the Black Box because it heals you with every rocket that connects.

[El Fangel]

Just had a payload match where I got 4K 5A 9:02 alive and healed 780 as a heavy, felt like a goddamn boss.

[RoXer]

Honestly, the only item you really need for Soldier is the Equalizer.

As a medic, allow me to say...

FUCK THAT

[Requiem]

^This man speaks truth.

[Requiem]

Don't think I have ever known a soldier who uses Equalizer to NOT pull it out when I'm trying to heal his dumb ass.

[Requiem]

Or even worse, when I've followed a soldier somewhere off by ourselves, and the idiot rocket jumps somewhere I can't follow him, and then I'm out in the frontlines all by myself.

[Verbose Minch]

As a medic, allow me to say...

FUCK THAT

I don't understand how I'm wrong. The Equalizer is a straight upgrade over the shovel. Logically, you would carry it with you all the time.

The only other weapon that is technically an upgrade over it's vanilla counterpart is the Direct Hit, but that requires way more skill than I or most people have. Thus I didn't mention it.

If you're playing with a soldier that pulls out the Equalizer while being healed, or rocket jumps away from you while being healed, you're just playing with a bad soldier. It doesn't make what I said any less valid.

[RoXer]

I don't understand how I'm wrong. The Equalizer is a straight upgrade over the shovel. Logically, you would carry it with you all the time.
That's not why I'm saying The Equalizer is bad

If you're playing with a soldier that pulls out the Equalizer while being healed, or rocket jumps away from you while being healed, you're just playing with a bad soldier.

That's why. I have not met a single soldier who has it equipped and DOESN'T pull it out as I'm healing them. Not one. Ever. You claim smart soldiers exist out there and, god, I hope you're right because I have not seen one.

[Requiem]

Again.. ^that

[Verbose Minch]

That's not why I'm saying The Equalizer is bad



That's why. I have not met a single soldier who has it equipped and DOESN'T pull it out as I'm healing them. Not one. Ever. You claim smart soldiers exist out there and, god, I hope you're right because I have not seen one.

I guess I'm basing it off myself when I play Soldier. Like I said, I don't play medic often, but when I do, I deal with the occasional rocket jump, but I've never seen them pull out the Equalizer while being healed. idk, maybe I'm just lucky?

[RoXer]

very :(

[El Fangel]

As a medic, allow me to say...

FUCK THAT

^This man speaks truth.

[El Fangel]

I had it equipped for one game, then removed it.

Play soldier the most by far now, heavy second, then pyro and medic.

[Verbose Minch]

I had it equipped for one game, then removed it.

Play soldier the most by far now, heavy second, then pyro and medic.

Had what equipped, the Equalizer?

[El Fangel]

Had what equipped, the Equalizer?

Yeah. I died when a medic was trying to heal me.

[Verbose Minch]

Yeah. I died when a medic was trying to heal me.

Then you are a dumb soldier. Why do you have the Equalizer out when there is a medic near you?

[Nark Order]

Because he started playing two days ago probably.

[El Fangel]

No, I had it equipped to heal myself as we previously did not have a medic to do so.

A new player joined the lobby and choose one midway through the match. I decided while good, it just isn't worth the risk of not getting healed.

[RoXer]

No, I had it equipped to heal myself as we previously did not have a medic to do so.



That's not what it does :(

[El Fangel]

It heals when you hit an enemy with it and blocks you from being healed other ways.

[RoXer]

Still no

[Verbose Minch]

It heals when you hit an enemy with it and blocks you from being healed other ways.

What are you talking about?

When you pull it out, the more damage you've taken, the faster you move and the more damage you deal (Up to 40% more, I believe). The downside is you cannot be healed.

[El Fangel]

What the fuck am I thinking of then ???

[Verbose Minch]

What the fuck am I thinking of then ???

The only melee weapon that heals the soldier is the half zatoicha (sp?). It looks like a katana, and until you kill someone, you can't put it away.

[El Fangel]

The only melee weapon that heals the soldier is the half zatoicha (sp?). It looks like a katana, and until you kill someone, you can't put it away.

I think I found that or bought that today, perhaps why i got mixed up.

Backburner is amazing. Love Pyros.

[Verbose Minch]

I think I found that or bought that today, perhaps why i got mixed up.

Backburner is amazing. Love Pyros.

Yeah, the back burner is awesome. I love how the only disadvantage to it is that it takes 25 more fuel to air blast, which is basically nothing.

[El Fangel]

30 more actually, 25->50

Though airblast is situation only.

also not that I'm looking but there is nothing in this game to complain about at all.

[Verbose Minch]

Oh shit, never realized that air blasting with the vanilla only cost 20.

Anyways, the only complaint I have in the game are Demo Knights. That was just a terrible terrible decision.

[El Fangel]

Demoknights?

[Verbose Minch]

Demomen that just run around using a sword/shield.

They contribute literally nothing to their team.

[El Fangel]

TPT for Demoman - 3:01

[Verbose Minch]

Mind you, I'm not saying all demo men are bad. Just the ones running around with their sword out.

My time played for Demo man is probably like 15 or so hours, but that was a long time ago.

[El Fangel]

Soldiers I find easy to play but love Heavys if you have a smart medic.

[Verbose Minch]

I love playing defensive Heavy with the Brass Beast. Probably my favorite thing in the game.

[El Fangel]

Natasha + Medic + Pyro watching our flank = profittz

[Verbose Minch]

I've never really used Natasha. Pretty fun?

[El Fangel]

Very!!! Slows the enemy at the expense of damage and spinup speed.

Hence as a heavy, you just raped them or caused them to be assfucked.

[Verbose Minch]

Hmm, I'll try it out then. I've got a vintage one sitting in my backpack from god knows how long ago.

[El Fangel]

I recommend using the sandvich as well.

[Verbose Minch]

Yeah, I would imagine that would be a good combination.

Generally I just go Brass Beast/Shot Gun/(I can't remember what they're called but the Iron Fists)

[El Fangel]

Usually I drop the sandvich behind me so i can backup and get it or my medic can grab if needed.

Natasha is wonderful if someone is in a corner :)

[Verbose Minch]

With the Sandvich, if you drop it, does it automatically heal you, or does it make you go into the eating animation?

[El Fangel]

Haven't checked, normally teammates use it.

[Requiem]

Demomen that just run around using a sword/shield.

They contribute literally nothing to their team.

Untrue. I am an amazing demoknight. Demoknight's purpose is to kill people, and get people off of points, and destroy engi nests when spies aren't doing their jobs, IMO. Payloads, cap points, etc. Also, I suck with the sticky launcher cause I always get killed while I'm deploying stickies, so I prefer using a shield in its place.

Also, don't know if I got ripped off because I have never traded for anything. But I got the numbered paint out of a crate, and I traded it for a strange revolver, and a vintage kritzkrieg. MIGHT have gotten ripped off but the guy said the price was kind of 'high' but he accepted anyways. Feel like he was playing me, but whatever. I got a strange spy weap and a vintage out of it, and I'll use both.

[Requiem]

Also, Narc is a pretty fantastic Heavy from what I've seen. :y: He protects his medic, AS A HEAVY SHOULD.

[RoXer]

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/teamfortress2-medic-med-kit.jpg

[Requiem]

RoXer get back on Steam. It is working again.

[El Fangel]

Heavys are so badass :)

[Nark Order]

Also, Narc is a pretty fantastic Heavy from what I've seen. :y: He protects his medic, AS A HEAVY SHOULD.

:heart:

lol. Thanks. I should be though. It's all I really play. RoXer and I have been going on a fucking rampage.

[El Fangel]

I usually spin around and check behind us to make sure some spy isn't about to knife me or my little German buddy in the back. Simple logic and strategy goes a long way playing this game.

Not sure if there is anything more beautiful then two heavys with medic attachments and a Otto spy checking their flank and a sniper picking off the other sniper.

Epic win, won payload in like 1:22

[El Fangel]

OOh and an engineer with dispensers right next to us all the time.

[El Fangel]

With myself a soldier, req a spy, roxer a medic and narc a heavy we could make a decent team id say.

[Nark Order]

Heavy is a much different class than many people think it is. The best way to get tons of kills as a heavy and stay alive to live to tell about it is to play it like it's a Spy. Sneak up on people, jump while spinning up around corners, get your kills, and then get the fuck out of there or behind a corner or building again. A lot of people who play Heavy feel like they are invincible (especially if they have a medic) and that's ridiculous because they just end up spy food or sniper food. You want to play it so people walk around a corner or jump down from a platform and "OH FUCK IT'S A HEAVY!!" And 9 times out of 10 you'll murder them before they even know what's happening. Also, too many Heavies get their medic killed by acting stupid. It shouldn't be a constant onslaught, it should be times of extreme warfare and then times to backoff and recover a bit while you toss the medic a sandvich.

Yeah, and spy checking is crucial or everybody dies.

[El Fangel]

I find playing the angles is best, don't get too far ahead and stand near corners so your team doesn't get psuhed back. People tend to be scared of heavys (for good reason up close)

I get to stay out of sniper view and watch the area immediately ahead and behind my team and if it gets too crowded ill spray my team to spy check. Better out 20 shots then teammates backstabbed.

[Requiem]

Got like 3 ranks on my kunai tonight, and 1 on my revolver. Good stuff.

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[Verbose Minch]

Also, don't know if I got ripped off because I have never traded for anything. But I got the numbered paint out of a crate, and I traded it for a strange revolver, and a vintage kritzkrieg. MIGHT have gotten ripped off but the guy said the price was kind of 'high' but he accepted anyways. Feel like he was playing me, but whatever. I got a strange spy weap and a vintage out of it, and I'll use both.

Frankly, I think you may have gotten ripped off now, but if you sit on that revolver, it'll only go up in value. In the long run, you're the one benefiting.

[Requiem]

I looked up the value of the paint on some site RoXer showed me, and I actually think I got a pretty good deal. It's worth like 1 scrap + .33 refined I think is what I saw on there.

[Requiem]

Also, why would the revolver go up in value? Can't people still get those from crates? Or is there such a thing as vintage strange weapons?

[Verbose Minch]

Also, why would the revolver go up in value? Can't people still get those from crates? Or is there such a thing as vintage strange weapons?

I believe that crate has been discontinued now, so it's only a matter of time until they're all gone.

[El Fangel]

How does one rank up a weapon and what does it do.

[Verbose Minch]

How does one rank up a weapon and what does it do.

Let's say you have a strange shotgun. It keeps track of every kill you get with that shotgun, and it will reach certain ''levels'' and earn a new name.

Things like: Unremarkable, slightly menacing, and gore splattered. It's just a cool little addition.

[El Fangel]

Ah cool, normal weapons don't do that do they?

[Verbose Minch]

Ah cool, normal weapons don't do that do they?

No, only strange weapons.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Let's say you have a strange shotgun. It keeps track of every kill you get with that shotgun, and it will reach certain ''levels'' and earn a new name.

Things like: Unremarkable, slightly menacing, and gore splattered. It's just a cool little addition.

That makes sense. Was wondering why I seen peoples weapons level up and mine never did. Was thinking I wasn't that terrible.

[El Fangel]

That makes sense. Was wondering why I seen peoples weapons level up and mine never did. Was thinking I wasn't that terrible.

This.

[El Fangel]

Playing now if anyone else wants to.

[Ermaximus]

Once I get to feeling better, I'll join you guys.

[El Fangel]

All I can say is that spies who sit in corners with stealth on are the biggest assholes walking this planet.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

All I can say is that spies who sit in corners with stealth on are the biggest assholes walking this planet.

Get some decent headphones. You'll hear them uncloak.

And I'm not an asshole, how dare you.

[El Fangel]

Wouldn't be so bad if wasn't getting killed repeatingly despite ONLY spychecking.

[Ermaximus]

Then you're going to hate me Fangel. Though, I typically play Demoman and Scout more than Spy.

[El Fangel]

He was using cloak and dagger and had the saharan spy set. Also had a plant on our team as I found out. I watched him just kill the guy and then continue on with the rest of our team.

[Requiem]

I wish I had a bumper sticker that said 'I :heart: (back-stab emblem)'

[RoXer]

You could probably make that somewhere on the internet

[RoXer]

I remember I wanted Red and Blu posters for my garage when this first came out

[El Fangel]

Want to play Roxer?

[RoXer]

Ummmmmmm 30 min?

[El Fangel]

Sounds good, you do voice chat or just play?

[El Fangel]

I finally just realized where your avatar is from after all this time lol.

[RoXer]

Depends if I actually feel like setting up everything (I don't at the moment). Also, my internet has been crapping out on me lately so let's hope that's not a problem.

[RoXer]

I finally just realized where your avatar is from after all this time lol.

Orange Box came out in '07 and I had it like a month afer that so almost 4 years

[El Fangel]

I had not played TF till like 4 days ago and only knew the Heavy.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Some guy just decided he needed to have a much sexier avatar and used a photo of me, gotta love THE MUFFIN MAN! :cool:

[El Fangel]

I am certain that spies in this game are the same bunch of fags who sit in corners camping in any other shooter.

Just finished a match, where I had 22 deaths and am vigilante with spy checking constantly.


Pyro - 2
Soldier - 4
Spy - 16


Skillless fucks.

[Requiem]

Spies also get 2 points for every backstab, btw.

[El Fangel]

So rewarded farther so sitting cloaked in a room corner, getting turned off this game pretty fast. Kinda sad when everything else is awesome.

[Requiem]

lol quit crying. I don't get killed by spies nearly as much as you seem to. I know you're new and all. But it's a very counter-able class. Spies get double the points for backstabs because they are harder to play effectively. You should play on a server that allows replays and watch to see how you get killed sometimes. I'm sure there are a lot of spies that sit in corners, but the -good- ones are the ones actually helping their team win by being active.

Or if you're getting killed a bunch by some fag who is corner camping, then quit and find a new server. The stat tracking isn't like CoD where it records every time you lose a game by quitting, or anything. I quit all the time if I'm fed up with my team/my sucking. Also, try some new maps if you're getting worked on others. I find that I tend to do better on certain maps as certain classes.

[El Fangel]

Im trying not to bitch, but Spies who sit in corners and stab the last person going by and then run to another corner, cloak and do it all again are annoying as shit.

[Requiem]

Also, the flamethrower isn't without fault. I notice it tends to skip places if you're moving it too fast sometimes. And all it takes is for a spy to predict that you're going to stop blasting it and turn away, and he has to just be running at you coming out of cloak, and can kill you in a split second.

[Requiem]

So go a different way. :) Don't keep running that way thinking you're going to 'get him this time', only to get killed over and over. He's probably cracking up the moment he dominates you. Go a different way, or tell your team what he's doing so they can help kill him.

This is TEAM fortress, after all.

[RoXer]

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Hey, could someone go medic?

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I guess I should post this in here, as well. It features a singing Narc, who didn't know he was being recorded.

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[Nark Order]

Yeah Fangel I play Heavy as my main class and spies are rarely a problem unless they are ridiculously good. As a Heavy you'll always get killed a couple times at least by spies and snipers, it's inevitable. But once you get really good, you become less and less a victim. My kill/death ratio is usually about 5/1 on Heavy now. Sometimes I have a ridiculous series where I'll have like 130 kills with like 10 or 12 deaths. It gets easier.

[Nark Order]

That video is fucking ridiculous. lol.

[Emperor Smeat]

Valve is celebrating the series 15th anniversary by giving away free stuff and making birthday related changes to Team Fortress 2 for the next 24 hours.

So Valve is giving out free stuff, and as you might imagine, that includes a party hat, and also a noisemaker that will work only on Team Fortress's birthday (Aug. 24) going forward. Health kits and ammo packs will be remodeled with birthday themes, and past birthday gifts, including the Beach Ball and the "Celebration Gib" which causes gibbed players to explode in a shower of balloons and confetti, will reappear.
http://kotaku.com/5834223/celebrate-team-fortress-2s-quinceaera-get-a-hat

[RoXer]

that was 24 hours ago

thanks

[Emperor Smeat]

dam, didn't even realize today was the 25th and that Kotaku posted sent the news of Valve holding a celebration 20 minutes before the thing was ending anyways.

[El Fangel]

So go a different way. :) Don't keep running that way thinking you're going to 'get him this time', only to get killed over and over. He's probably cracking up the moment he dominates you. Go a different way, or tell your team what he's doing so they can help kill him.

This is TEAM fortress, after all.

You know as well as I do that the majority of people who play shooters.

1) Don't support team play
2) Don't listen to other players
3) Are fragwhores.
4) And their IQ doesnt get above the number in this list this sentence is on.

[El Fangel]

Playing soon, anyone else?

[RoXer]

30 min

[RoXer]

You know as well as I do that the majority of people who play shooters.

1) Don't support team play
2) Don't listen to other players
3) Are fragwhores.
4) And their IQ doesnt get above the number in this list this sentence is on.

You're listing Call of Duty problems

[El Fangel]

Ugh, so goddamn laggy had to leave. Plus don't like CTF at all.

[Requiem]

my net has gone down twice in the past 10 minutes so i quit

[El Fangel]

Yeah, mine is acting all weird as well. Keeps freezing during matchups. :(

I was doing excellent as a Soldier too.

[El Fangel]

Had an awesome medic yesterday. Was playing heavy and lasted like 10 mins.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

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[Requiem]

Using this new HUD and I really like it

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[Extreme Angle]

I suck at this...

[Nark Order]

I imagined you would. No offense.

[Nark Order]

What am I saying? Offense is incredible.

[Extreme Angle]

I'd probably slay you though. ;)

[El Fangel]

Any game I play gets ruined by some asshole spy sitting cloaked in a corner.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Any game I play gets ruined by some asshole spy sitting cloaked in a corner.

Sounds like me with COD and prone snipers. God those guys suck the fun out of fucking everything.

[El Fangel]

They really do, it requires zero skill to do that. I can't understand why someone would do that. Its boring and shows you have no or little skill.

Ill die and go back to join the fray and get stabbed in the back along the way. Before I'm even 20 feet from the spawn.

Ill leave right after as I know the cunt will keep doing it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh no, spies rock. Easily dispatched if you have some pyros watching your back.

Plus it doesn't show they have little or no skill, otherwise they'd be in the same place ready for you to shoot them.

[El Fangel]

The concept of spies is good but when they do what I posted it's akin to the assfags who in COD sat with a gun pointed at the door and a claymore just inside it.

[Requiem]

so that's why you ragequit yesterday.

also, i don't think i ever have the problems you describe. use a different entrance if there is one. sometimes i think you give up because of the most ridiculous, counter-able things.

[Nark Order]

Fangel, honestly. You just have to know where to look for spies. Once you get it down, you can kill them all the time. You'll never be free of them, as they'll always get kills but they don't have to be such a hassle once you know the game.

[Requiem]

^That. Like the fact that this continues to be a problem for you says to me that you're not putting in much effort into countering it at all. You 'claim' to spycheck as pyro all the time, but really I never come across this continuous onslaught from spies that you seem to. Spies are the most paper-thin class in the game; ie, easiest to kill, hands down.

Perhaps you just need to try playing spy and get better at it so you understand what tactics spies use. I find that the only time I really get repeatedly killed by spies are as heavies, or medics. Spy is my most played class with like 32 hours on it or something, and I think playing it helped me understand where spies would be coming from or what to look for. Some spies are just crazy obvious.. that guy you think is your teammate, might not be.

[El Fangel]

Nah, computer froze and didnt feel like rebooting.

It wasn't the exit I was going out, its that the spy was watching you leave the spawn with dead ringer and hole in your back and was standing still.

Even when I was vigilantly looking and spy checking....


BAM uncloaks and stabs.

switch to pyro, do single shots of flame front and behind.

BAM uncloaks and stabs.

What do you suggest I do?

[El Fangel]

I mainly play soldier and heavy.

Ill spray teammates or fire a rocket into a group to check. Nothing.

3 seconds later, I see one of them backstabbed.

Ill get used to it yes, but fuck is it frustrating.

[Nark Order]

Keep playing heavy, you'll get alot better at it and spies won't be a huge problem. A really good spy will find a way to kill a heavy at some point but I limit tons of spy kills by just being cautious. My KDR (kill/death ratio) last night was 7/1 as a heavy. Was getting ridiculous amounts of kills. Especially with RoXer.

[Requiem]

dead ringer is way easy to hear.. it's the loudest of the uncloak devices and has a very distinct sound. learn what it sounds like, and if you hear it, look around. The only time you wont hear it is if they are using the saharan spy set, but then they will be using the eternal reward knife (it's part of the set). if he's using eternal reward knife, then odds are he doesn't always have a disguise.. sometimes he will, but that means he'll appear as one of your teammates, so be suspicious of everyone. if he doesn't use that, then he's using manual disguise every time he cloaks, and he'll probably change his disguise each time if he thinks people have caught on.

really, just requires a lot of situation awareness.. gotta know where your teammates are, gotta watch the killfeed, and gotta pay attention to suspicious behavior.

Also, disguised spies almost always have a primary weapon equipped. Spies can switch to secondary weapon by pressing the 'last disguise' button, but you can't switch back, but most don't bother. So some classes are easier to detect as a spy than others. Also, movement speeds. If you see a scout running slower than normal, he's a spy.

[Requiem]

Also, don't just click once with pyro.. spray in a circle around you and then keep going. Pyro just requires some 'spidey-sense'. Check around corners, give a good spray around you, and keep going. Ammo is plentiful all around the map, including just walking over dead people's weapons on the ground. Don't be afraid to use your ammo.

[Requiem]

also, pretty sure you meant cloak and dagger, as that is the cloak that recharges when you stand still. dead ringer is the one that feigns death when you take damage. easy to tell if someone is dead ringering, but most people unsurprisingly don't pay attention. You can still hear it though. Wear headphones when you play. Makes everything so much better.

[El Fangel]

Yeah ill get better. Just infuriating as hell. Also idiot teammates don't help.

[Requiem]

RoXer showed me this.

Wow. That's all I can use to describe it.

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[El Fangel]

Oh my god, that is sick.

[Extreme Angle]

Oh my god, that is sick.

[El Fangel]

Any of you assmonkeys wanna play?

[Requiem]

yes, after i eat i will be back on

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Anyone got any rare/strange stuff that isn't for soldier or sniper? i've got a strange shotgun for a soldier, strange jarate, strange sniper rifle and a strange sniper rifle that doesn't do headshots, but sprays the target with jarate on hit.

[Requiem]

RoXer got some strange stuff the other day.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, I seem to get them quite a bit, I've got 2 soldier shotguns but I never play sniper or soldier. Got a strange engineer wrench at least.

[RoXer]

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[RoXer]

not going to spend any more money on this game btw

[El Fangel]

Ive come to realize, that I have the most fun when I am setting everyone on fire.

I will continue to do that.

[Droford]

downloaded it..Ive got too much lag. Other people kinda just teleport all over the place and I cant shoot anyone or do anything but get shot/stabbed/set on fire/blown up myself

[El Fangel]

Heavy w/ Natasha + Medic w/ Kritzkrieg = :drool:

That is all.

[RoXer]

It's disgusting how great Narc and I are together.

[RoXer]

Also, decided I'm going to laugh taunt with every crossbow kill I get no matter what the situation.

[RoXer]

Also, I want earbuds. Wearing a Bill's Hat just isn't enough.

[RoXer]

Also, Fallen Angel needs to spend more times on other classes.

[El Fangel]

What other classes? The only ones I don't play are Spy and Sniper...

Also, BURN BURN EVERYTHING!!!!

[El Fangel]

Oh and had like a 50 point round with a medic, healed like a boss and had 12 invulns I think.

[Requiem]

you had barely any played time on other classes according to your tf2stats. soldier/heavy were it, and from watching you play, you have a lot to learn. you stand still way too much as a heavy, so it's no wonder you get killed by spies. watched you standing in place just looking out ahead of you for people a shit ton; right before you complained about getting killed by a spy

[El Fangel]

I played a pyro most of the time you roxer and myself were playing. We were playing capture points and figured a heavy is a lot better at suppressing the other team then pyro.

Ill switch if I think te situation calls for it.

[RoXer]

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[RoXer]

What other classes?

You have Sniper, Engie, Demo, Spy, Scout all under an hour. Feel free to try any of those.

[Taft]

Add me on Steam, sirbros.

MoogieB

[El Fangel]

Screw Sniper and Spy.

[Verbose Minch]

Screw Sniper and Spy.

Why spy? They're clearly fucking you over again and again. Wouldn't it make sense for you to play them so you can get into the mindset of how they work? That way you can better defend yourself against them.

[El Fangel]

I can defend myself...WITH FIRE!!!

[El Fangel]

Sweet jesus, I love Engi and Demoman.

Also, Pyro, Heavy and Soldier.

And Medic.

[RoXer]

Anyone wanna play?

[El Fangel]

Ill be on in 5 or so.

[RoXer]

I can relate :(

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[El Fangel]

Just had a 145 point round. :D

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

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[RoXer]

Can someone who makes replays and uses the replay editor help me make a replay?

I'd ask jabba but I don't think he actually uses the in-game editor.

[RoXer]

http://i.imgur.com/QKd9a.jpg

[El Fangel]

I want to beat the ever loving shit out of the bastards who run past me and take the health when I am a goddamn medic on fire.

I can heal you dipshit!!!

[Requiem]

Been a few days since I've played, but I hopped on with FA just now for a bit. First game. Got 1 kill as a spy, and that destruction is from spy, but then I changed to medic. And when I did, THIS happened.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2770/medicrape.jpg

[Requiem]

Got 2 crossbow kills in a row in one life. One was a crit, and the next was just normal and killed someone. Probably 5 of those kills are crossbow, and the rest were ubersaw. Was pretty much torching it. My team was staying near me and I was healing EVERYONE. Used Kritz the whole time too.

[El Fangel]

You and that Heavy can go fist yourselves.

[Requiem]

Yeah that guy was a beast. He changed classes before that last round, and eventually left the game. But me and him were TEARING it up. It wasn't fair. He'd sandvich me all the time, and I only got killed by a spy once. He was on top of things, and I moved around so much and healed everyone around me constantly, so we just had groups of overhealed people moving around the map.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Accidentally jumped on a server with friendly fire enabled as a pyro. My presence was not appreciated.

[El Fangel]

Dont understand why it would allow friendly fire, as spychecking is an essential part of this game.

[El Fangel]

So peeps, what are your top 3 favorite classes?

Engineer, Soldier and Demoman for myself, though my time played doesnt show it.

[El Fangel]

Just tore shit up hardcore.

Second place in the lobby with 142 points. Sydney Sleeper is so underrated.

[El Fangel]

31 Point round with the engineer, mass toss of damage, healing and 54 teleports.

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

I've got it now. The combination of my computer and myself being highly under-qualified may be detrimental to my fun, though.

[El Fangel]

I have an absolute shit processor, just close pretty much everything else when you are playing and it will be fine.

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

I've already done so, I'm no fool. You overestimate my computer.

[El Fangel]

I guess I do. Mine is shit.

Jesus, hate when we are playing control points and a group of tards thinks 5 snipers is a good idea.

Even worse when they get bent over because of a spy, each one of them respawned and went and stood next to that lonely sniper...

[Requiem]

FA is playing on a 1.6GHz dual core, an 8500GT, and 3GB of RAM. If you have any part of that beat, I think you'll be fine.

[El Fangel]

I need a new comp badly.

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

I have no part of that matched, much less beat.

[El Fangel]

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc518/MacPherson582/giggity.jpg



Like a muddafuking bawse.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

You lost.

[El Fangel]

No, we won that round.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

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[El Fangel]

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[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

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[El Fangel]

Thats honestly your best yet.