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Xero
09-04-2011, 01:14 PM
Let's list and discuss the wrestlers who come off as huge marks for themselves and come off like they believe their own hype.

I'll start off with the obvious and say Matt Hardy.

Aguakate
09-04-2011, 01:15 PM
RVD

Londoner
09-04-2011, 01:16 PM
jeff hardy?


/next obvious post

Rammsteinmad
09-04-2011, 01:20 PM
Hulk Hogan.

Rammsteinmad
09-04-2011, 01:21 PM
I mean, jeez, wasn't he saying crap about hitting the Big Boot and Legdropping some of the UK rioters recently?

Aguakate
09-04-2011, 01:25 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/15cc588.jpg

Ultra Mantis
09-04-2011, 01:37 PM
Kurt Angle has to be on the list. But if he's not in the top 5 he'd rather not be on it all.

Ruien
09-04-2011, 01:44 PM
The Miz

bigslimjj
09-04-2011, 01:47 PM
Vince Russo
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CSL
09-04-2011, 02:03 PM
Pretty much every wrestler ever

KayfabeMan
09-04-2011, 02:21 PM
What CSL said.

Having worked with and seen first hand, just about every guy is a mark for his own shit.

BizarroKing
09-04-2011, 02:24 PM
not rly a wrestler I know but Cole.

Chavo Classic
09-04-2011, 02:49 PM
Ultimate Warrior. Guy is still bitter about shit more than ten years later.

#BROKEN Hasney
09-04-2011, 02:50 PM
All of them

Next Big Thing
09-04-2011, 03:09 PM
Ultimate Warrior. Guy is still bitter about shit more than ten years later.

Warrior is definitely a mark for himself, but I've never gotten the impression that Warrior was bitter. He beat Hogan clean at Wrestlemania. Always got his money by hook or by crook and Vince would probably sign the guy to a legend's contract tomorrow if he could.

I think Warrior is one of those guys who regards himself as this supreme alpha male and the shit he spews is more or less based out of that than any kind of bitterness.

The Couch
09-04-2011, 04:45 PM
This question is easy:

Jeff Jarrett---No one with less talent thinks more highly of themselves then him except for maybe:

Chris Jericho--Without a doubt the most overrated of all time and he belives his own hype which is worse.

MoFo
09-04-2011, 04:54 PM
Bret Hart
Goldberg
Bruno Sammartino

Armitage Shanks
09-04-2011, 04:58 PM
Definitely Bret Hart. He took his character far too seriously and actually seemed to forget that sometimes wrestlers turn heel.

Cool King
09-04-2011, 05:09 PM
Chris Jericho--Without a doubt the most overrated of all time and he belives his own hype which is worse.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqvjjiK1AJ1qlhyq5o1_250.gif

Cool King
09-04-2011, 05:10 PM
Also, it's "than", not "then".

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/5005/WWE-Superstar-Matt-Striker-2.jpg

Xero
09-04-2011, 05:42 PM
Definitely Bret Hart. He took his character far too seriously and actually seemed to forget that sometimes wrestlers turn heel.

lol, definitely agree with this. In Wrestling With Shadows he calls himself a God to some people.

XL
09-04-2011, 06:01 PM
Pretty much all wrestlers, ever. There probably isn't a guy on the roster than thinks he is being "used correctly" or in "the right spot". As much as I love him, Punk comes across like "a mark for himself".

Seth82
09-04-2011, 06:03 PM
Ric Flair

Stickman
09-04-2011, 06:46 PM
Other than saying everybody I'm going to give my opinion.

Bret Hart - I love the guy, one of my favourite of all time. But at times he does act like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Hulk Hogan - The biggest name ever who should've hung them up a good ten years ago. He still walks around pretending Hulkamania still exists. He is destroying himself with TNA.

Ric Flair - Fantasitc on the mic, good in the ring, but acts like a teenager. He still thinks he's the best in the world.

Ultimate Warrior - The guy is crazy. If he made a return now I don't think the majority of the audience would have a clue who he is. He was big for such a small window of time.

Jeff Jarrett - Fucking awful on the mic and not much better in the ring. Books a promotion around himself, come on.

XL
09-04-2011, 07:28 PM
TNA hasn't been "booked around" Jarrett since about 2005.

XL
09-04-2011, 07:30 PM
Also, I cringe everytime I see sometime say that Flair is (still) great on the mic.

CSL
09-04-2011, 07:34 PM
Flair will be a riot until the day he dies, I never want him off TV.

ThePhantom
09-04-2011, 07:37 PM
CM Punk
and
Shawn Michaels

XL
09-04-2011, 07:38 PM
Flair will be a riot until the day he dies, I never want him off TV.
I suppose he does make for good "car crash" TV.

Tazz Dan
09-04-2011, 07:47 PM
Sebastion Cruz

Emperor Smeat
09-04-2011, 08:33 PM
Kevin Nash - only guy to actually come out with a chart showing his drawing power in comparison to other wrestlers :shifty:

Sin Cara

Shisen Kopf
09-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Kurt Angle-what a sanctimonious prick.

Stickman
09-04-2011, 09:40 PM
Also, I cringe everytime I see sometime say that Flair is (still) great on the mic.

I didnt mean still, i meant was.

XCaliber
09-04-2011, 10:00 PM
The Kliq every damn one of em.

Aguakate
09-04-2011, 10:37 PM
Sin Cara

Sin Cara?

Emperor Smeat
09-04-2011, 10:45 PM
Assuming the reports were true, Sin Cara managed to piss off a lot of people in the lockeroom by boasting about all the things he could do from what was being hyped about him even if some of the stories sounded fake or embellished.

Aguakate
09-04-2011, 10:50 PM
Also, Eric Bischoff.

Seth82
09-04-2011, 11:56 PM
Larry Zybyszko

Rock Bottom
09-05-2011, 12:31 AM
Good thread, but I can't find many that haven't already been listed. I think if I had to pick the biggest mark for themself, it would be the Ultimate Warrior by leaps and bounds.

Hanso Amore
09-05-2011, 12:42 AM
New Jack

Hanso Amore
09-05-2011, 12:43 AM
I cant believe im the first on this one

Dennis Stamp

Fucking Nobody shows up to Funks retirement and cries his way onto the card.

Captain of Fun
09-05-2011, 01:31 AM
I don't think you'd be a very successful wrestler if you weren't a mark for yourself.

XL
09-05-2011, 05:56 AM
How have we not included Vince McMahon here?

The guy with the "My way or the highway attitude" to everything.

MoFo
09-05-2011, 07:58 AM
Juvi Guerrera

MoFo
09-05-2011, 07:58 AM
also, Stone Cold for crying about having to lose to Brock Lesnar

Theo Dious
09-05-2011, 07:08 PM
Kevin Nash - only guy to actually come out with a chart showing his drawing power in comparison to other wrestlers :shifty:

You DO know that that was done for comedic purposes, yes?

Theo Dious
09-05-2011, 07:13 PM
I don't think you'd be a very successful wrestler if you weren't a mark for yourself.

There is a difference between believing in yourself and your potential and being a mark for yourself.

also, Stone Cold for crying about having to lose to Brock Lesnar

And there is an even bigger difference between refusing to do something that would harm your career and the other guy's and being a mark for yourself.

XL
09-05-2011, 07:55 PM
You DO know that that was done for comedic purposes, yes?
The presence of a shifty smilie tells me a big fat YES.

Stickman
09-05-2011, 07:59 PM
How have we not included Vince McMahon here?

The guy with the "My way or the highway attitude" to everything.

That's pretty much the CEO of every single company though.

Narcissus
09-05-2011, 08:00 PM
Definitely CM Punk. Come on. But I love his skinny fat ass to death.

Captain of Fun
09-05-2011, 08:18 PM
also, Stone Cold for crying about having to lose to Brock Lesnar


Yeah, not really what happened at all.

Gertner
09-06-2011, 11:26 AM
Bret Hart

Battlekat
09-06-2011, 11:32 AM
Chavo has come off that way since his release. Other than him, I pretty much agree on everybody that has been listed so far.

Ace
09-06-2011, 11:39 AM
I guess CM Punk is a mark for himself, but most of what he says/ does isn't overly to put himself over. The guy knows he's good, and backs it up.

Same goes for Hogan. Guy is very into himself, but the guy was the face of wrestling for so long. He is easily the most recognizable wrestler ever. Who wouldn't get an ego trip for life from that?

I tend to think of more of the 'flash in the pan' type guys. Like Matt Hardy. Teenage girls loved the Hardyz in like 99/2000, and he's never really been anything more than that. And he can't get over himself being just that.

Hanso Amore
09-06-2011, 11:54 AM
I guess CM Punk is a mark for himself, but most of what he says/ does isn't overly to put himself over. The guy knows he's good, and backs it up.

Same goes for Hogan. Guy is very into himself, but the guy was the face of wrestling for so long. He is easily the most recognizable wrestler ever. Who wouldn't get an ego trip for life from that?

I tend to think of more of the 'flash in the pan' type guys. Like Matt Hardy. Teenage girls loved the Hardyz in like 99/2000, and he's never really been anything more than that. And he can't get over himself being just that.

At what point does it stop being " a mark for yourself" and start being the truth that Hogan is the MAN.

Ace
09-06-2011, 12:59 PM
I think to the point where he believes he is still relevant in todays wrestling world. He was amazing in the 80's/ early 90s, which most former fans/ non fans know him for. Kept himself relevant in the mid to late 90's with the nWo. Had what should have been a final run in 2002/2003 with WWE, with the nostalgia run.

What he is doing now, is doing more to hurt his legacy than maintain it, and he doesn't seem to see it.

Ace
09-06-2011, 01:02 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0823/gl_g_flair2x_576.jpg

To be fair, both Hogan and Flair have this problem, and I think this picture shows it. Depressing, to be honest.

Noid
09-08-2011, 04:18 AM
Hulk Hogan
Kurt Angle
Bret Hart
Matt Hardy
Eric Bischoff
Vince Russo
Chavo Guerrero

Names that instantly went through my head. That's not to say that I don't like the performing skills of so many people on this list -- but they definitely come off as guys who are huge marks for themselves. Like, not only to the point where they believe in themselves (as others have pointed out is necessary), but to the point where their belief in themselves in disproportionate to what they can actually do. Yeah, Hogan's the biggest name in wrestling's history -- but when he shows up it doesn't mean that ratings are suddenly through the roof -- or that the same shtick he's been doing his entire career is going to work.

Hogan acting like Hogan is pretty much like if Tom Selleck constantly portrayed Thomas Magnum everywhere he went. Yeah, it can be good occasionally for a bit of a fun nostalgic trip (nothing presented too seriously), but there's a reason that Magnum P.I. isn't shown in prime time on CBS every night now, isn't there? That's not to say that there isn't room for Tom Selleck and his glorious moustache somewhere in relevant films or movies -- or for Hogan in professional wrestling -- but there's no way that it should be re-runs of the past shit Hogan has done.