F*ck Gail Kim (and diva botches i guess)

[Rock Bottom]

Seriously. She isn't that great. I keep seeing these Gail Kim stories. This chic has blown herself way out of proportion, almost trying to take credit for the fact that the WWE set their sights on Kong (Kharma). I've heard from a lot of people that she's "hot," etc., but honestly, she hasn't done a damn thing that I can remember adding up to anything.

She does have a lot of valid criticisms about the WWE, particularly the womens' division, but honestly, I think these things are completely neutral to her success. She was around when the division was a lot less of a joke than it is today, and she still wasn't really that over. The fact is, fans aren't necessarily going to care if you're a good worker, like they would a man. Sure, they will recognize your talent sometimes, but for the most part, it comes down to your appearance.

This isn't the doing of the WWE, it's done by the fact that men have penises. I cite Trish Stratus all the time. She got way over. She was hot and she could work. She was also "girly" enough, as Kim puts it. It just keeps coming across to me like she's crying about not getting this type of recognition without the credentials to back it up.

I feel that Gail Kim has a hard time accepting the consequences of a penis-wielding society, and that even if things were different with the WWE, she still wouldn't be that great.

If anyone has any of this supposedly super good Gail Kim work though, I'd like to see it so that, if nothing else, I could see why she thinks she's hot shit. I do not remember anything special about her at all, and I'm pretty sure I've seen her with the womens' belt at least twice when I was glued to the product.

Edit: Ok, this is now a diva botch thread

[Rock Bottom]

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[Shadrick]

ahsadjf;asldfkjasf @ that vid

[Rock Bottom]

gggggggetttttttttttttttttt the ffffffffffffuckkkkkkkkkkkooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooutttttttttttttttttttttt

[The MAC]

I'd bang her

[Rock Bottom]

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[Rock Bottom]

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[Heisenberg]

Lumberg fucked her

[Shadrick]

But WHICH Lumberg?!?!

[Xero]

Say "fuck", you pussy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I'd fuck Gail Kim.

[Pintint]

Never understood the popularity of Gail Kim. She never impressed me in the ring and was always a really boring character....

[Destor]

lol...Fail Kim

[Kane Knight]

This is TPWW. You can swear.

[XCaliber]

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So Jabba The Hut finally learned to speak english at 0:25 heh.

[Rock Bottom]

This is TPWW. You can swear.

Not without having the title edited. If I were to put, "Fuck Gail Kim," it would get changed.

[Destor]

huh?

[Destor]

lets test this

[Destor]

so far it looks ok out there

[Destor]

glad to know TPWW hasnt changed that much ;)

[Razzamajazz]

i enjoy whale cock

[Destor]

to each their own

[Razzamajazz]

joke's on you, that's a true statement

[Destor]

haha

[Destor]

well played sir

[Volare]

I think she's still bitter about day one in WWE. Debuts on RAW and win the women's title.....and no one gave a shit.

[Rock Bottom]

Thank you Destor.

A short-lived victory though.

[RVDmark]

So one of TPDub's complaints is the Womens/Tag/Cruiserweight division is it's just left as an afterthought or filler with no substance, then when one of the wrestlers says the same thing, we jump on the "they're just bitter" bandwagon.

Gail eliminating herself from her last match and no-one noticing was a very poignant message.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Hmmm. Ignoring everything I've read in this thread, I'm going to attribute the title to Rock Bottom and ban him forever! FOREVER!

However, much like Gail Kim, I will probably botch it.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

So one of TPDub's complaints is the Womens/Tag/Cruiserweight division is it's just left as an afterthought or filler with no substance, then when one of the wrestlers says the same thing, we jump on the "they're just bitter" bandwagon.

Gail eliminating herself from her last match and no-one noticing was a very poignant message.

I think the difference is that most of TPWW would love a revived Tag Team or Lightweight scene that would actually be treated decently. On the other hand, I don't think most people really care that much about the women's division.

[Destor]

Damn striaght, bout time someone put him in his place.

[CSL]

Gail eliminating herself from her last match and no-one noticing was a very poignant message.

to?

[GD]

http://images.tuttogratis.it/99092_R648x0Y/gail-kim2.jpg

[CSL]

Elmo having the time of his life

[LewisTheTruest]

^yeh all that shit.
and now...
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[Rock Bottom]

So one of TPDub's complaints is the Womens/Tag/Cruiserweight division is it's just left as an afterthought or filler with no substance, then when one of the wrestlers says the same thing, we jump on the "they're just bitter" bandwagon.

Gail eliminating herself from her last match and no-one noticing was a very poignant message.

She is bitter. That's like accusing people of jumping on the "tell it like it is" bandwagon. People have varying opinions about the womens' divison, personally I think it's a joke as well. But the WWE did not go around society and give every man a cock. The point is that it takes more than in-ring ability.

Honestly I just made this thread because I was getting tired of seeing her name in the news. Every time, she came off like some bad-ass who was being misused. The truth is, the opportunity is there for exceptional divas, whether or not the womens' division is shit. When and if we see Kharma return, we'll all see that, hopefully.

Speaking of Kharma, that was a nice video.

[Destor]

She SHOULD be bitter. The state of wrestling (and this is just for women but for men as well [women more so]) is absolutely pathetic. Cosmetics are so much more important than skill that's its shameful. you dedicated decades of your life becoming good at the craft onlky to have it be irrelevent. your ability to perform is an after thought, the only thing that matters, more so for women but not by as much as you would think, is how you look. and who you;re fucking. you claw your way to the top only to find waiting for you a dude with a hard on telling you if you want a push you gotta take the push...plenty of reason to be bitter.

[Destor]

and you'd be surprised how true that is for male workers too

[Skippord]

have you been penetrated for a push Destor?

[Destor]

lol, i think every worker has been offerd money for a push, but NO.

[Skippord]

not sure I believe you

[Destor]

of course >_<

[Kane Knight]

Elmo having the time of his life

Can't be unseen.

[XL]

This looks like one of those "Holier Than Thou" IWC things.

Generally speaking, "The IWC" wants to see women with inring talent pushed in the division over the no-talent models that get the nod. Gail Kim pretty much embodies that whilst still being "hot".

But, disgruntled in her "mis-use" she pulls the eliminate herself from the Battle Royale stunt and "The IWC" turns on her for being "unproffessional". Like that actually matters to us.

[Shisen Kopf]

No-one cares about womens rasslin. It's not serious business. WWE should have ring girls and do away with the whole divas bullshit.

[Kane Knight]

This looks like one of those "Holier Than Thou" IWC things.

Generally speaking, "The IWC" wants to see women with inring talent pushed in the division over the no-talent models that get the nod. Gail Kim pretty much embodies that whilst still being "hot".

But, disgruntled in her "mis-use" she pulls the eliminate herself from the Battle Royale stunt and "The IWC" turns on her for being "unproffessional". Like that actually matters to us.

Hypocrisy in the IWC? You must be joking!

[Next Big Thing]

This looks like one of those "Holier Than Thou" IWC things.

Generally speaking, "The IWC" wants to see women with inring talent pushed in the division over the no-talent models that get the nod. Gail Kim pretty much embodies that whilst still being "hot".

But, disgruntled in her "mis-use" she pulls the eliminate herself from the Battle Royale stunt and "The IWC" turns on her for being "unproffessional". Like that actually matters to us.

It's not that, at least for me.

There's no way in hell Gail Kim honestly looked at the Divas division and thought she'd have a better opportunity to shine as a women's wrestler working with the likes of Maryse and Layla compared to Awesome Kong, Angelina Love and other talented women that TNA was bringing in from the Indy circuit regularly as opposed to the failed Maxim models that the WWE was signing and putting on television on a regular basis.

She went back to the WWE for financial reasons first and foremost and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that and it’s not something to judge her for, BUT she can’t turn around and piss and moan about being misused or the inadequacies of the WWE women’s division when all of that was apparent before she re-signed.

[XL]

That seems to presume we know what she was told during negotiations.

For all we know they could have BS'd her into believing that the division was gonna be given a boost and that she would get a fair crack of the whip. It's highly unlikely that she would have been told they were gonna make her an integral part of the division but we will never really know for sure.

IMO the women has every right to show her annoyance at the way she was (or wasn't) used. Was it neccessary to run Cookie Cutter Babyface Diva Champion versus Bella Twin A/B week after wekk, after week?

WWE has the women with enough talent to make a decent division, they have never booked it that way.

Honestly, I don't care for women's wrestling but I'm also past the age of "Ooooooooooo BOOBIES!!". Maybe I wouldn't skip every segment invloving the women if they'd use the Kim's, Mickie James' and - up until recently - Natalya's and Pheonix' a little better.

[Rock Bottom]

This looks like one of those "Holier Than Thou" IWC things.

Only if you insist on using the term "IWC" to classify someone's opinion that Gail Kim is giving herself way too much credit.

If you're looking for an excuse to say things like "holier than thou," that's a different story.

This predictable "IWC" thing that is landing in every single thread is getting a little redundant, and sucking more and more life out of having an actual opinion. In general, every time the acronym is used, people apply it to just about everyone but themselves. Then it takes your argument, opinion, or whatever else you're babbling about, and makes it identical to the said IWC's opinion, knocking shit way out of context.

It's cheap and useless.

I never cared enough about Gail Kim to give much of a shit either way, I was just noting that she's popping up all over wrestling news with her bullshit martyrish attitude lately.

[Juan]

Who cares

[Rock Bottom]

The reporters care, Juan.

[Blakeamus]

THE IWC: We Share, Cause We Care.

[XL]

Who cares
Despite saying the opposite, Rock Bottom obviously does.

[Rock Bottom]

Nah, I still don't care about Gail Kim so much, which is half the point. I just think the "IWC this, IWC that" is cheap.

[Pintint]

Nah, I still don't care about Gail Kim so much, which is half the point. I just think the "IWC this, IWC that" is cheap.

I think Mark Henry should come out in the middle of a high profile, PPV diva/women's match (for the title), grab a mic and say, "Yo, I'm gonna let ya finish but Mae Young was the best diva of all time!" and then slams both divas and leaves.

[XL]

Nah, I still don't care about Gail Kim so much, which is half the point. I just think the "IWC this, IWC that" is cheap.
You care so little as to create a thread entitled "Fuxk Gail Kim". That's kinda not indifferent.

[Kane Knight]

I don't care, and here's a 2,000 word post telling you how much I don't care:

[Rock Bottom]

She's insignificant, and is acting like she's hot shit, and getting a bunch of news articles posted about her. I think that's been said multiple times.

It's ironic that so many people act like they're smart when they lack basic reading comprehension.

[XL]

By all means I comprehend what you've said, but nobody here was paying attention to Kim or any of the "multiple articles" on her until you made this thread.

[Juan]

Like I said, no one cares.

[Kane Knight]

She's insignificant, and is acting like she's hot shit, and getting a bunch of news articles posted about her. I think that's been said multiple times.

It's ironic that so many people act like they're smart when they lack basic reading comprehension.

By all means I comprehend what you've said, but nobody here was paying attention to Kim or any of the "multiple articles" on her until you made this thread.

Which belies Rock Bottom's supposed message for his actual one.

Also, I really hope your use of the word "ironic" was "ironic," RB.

[Rammsteinmad]

I've never really seen Gail Kim as hot, but I wouldn't turn down the chance to stick it in her.

That's my only contribution to this thread.

[Rock Bottom]

KK is no above going after English in wrong fashion that is inaccurite

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony

[Rock Bottom]

u 4got a coma after word and b4 ur quotes also kane kanigit

[Rock Bottom]

By all means I comprehend what you've said, but nobody here was paying attention to Kim or any of the "multiple articles" on her until you made this thread.

What does that even mean, is that like the finishing move in the "who cares less about Gail Kim" fight

[Kane Knight]

u 4got a coma after word and b4 ur quotes also kane kanigit

It's like rain on your wedding day, innit?

[Rock Bottom]

in any event, that should be Gail Kim's new theme song

[Chuck Jones]

Didn't Gail Kim eliminate herself in a Diva's Battle Royal and nobody noticed?

[XL]

That might have been mentioned a couple times in this very thread, yes.

[Volare]

Gail is living proof that not every guy in America wants to see a half naked asain chick.

[Captain of Fun]

Chuck Jones, young man about town.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Still would fuck Gail Kim. Ya'll crazy.

[MoFo]

Yes.

Butters though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

She SHOULD be bitter. The state of wrestling (and this is just for women but for men as well [women more so]) is absolutely pathetic. Cosmetics are so much more important than skill that's its shameful. you dedicated decades of your life becoming good at the craft onlky to have it be irrelevent. your ability to perform is an after thought, the only thing that matters, more so for women but not by as much as you would think, is how you look. and who you;re fucking. you claw your way to the top only to find waiting for you a dude with a hard on telling you if you want a push you gotta take the push...plenty of reason to be bitter.

Kind of agree with this, but don't know the inside of the biz. Gail Kim is a great female worker, in my opinion, and she looks damn fine. She'd be absolutely perfect for this angle with Beth Phoenix & Natalya. A girl with wrestling ability who gets warm-blooded males going is the perfect opponent for them. But they've chosen Kelly Kelly, and while I understand that there is a place for Kelly in the business, I'm just not sure it's as the main protagonist of the Divas Division.

I'd like to know more about what it's like to be a WWE Diva. I assume that there's certain expectations on the girls to keep the boys happy. I imagine it'd be a hard life being in the WWE (as a female) and being seen as a "prude."

[XL]

Noid, the one man looking forward to WWE Network's Diva "reality" show.

[Next Big Thing]

Count me in too. I guarantee you that show will be one of the highest rated programs on that network if they do it right and have cat fights/ the girls in slutty outfits for most of the show combined with the genuine intrigue that does come from wondering about a day in the life of a female wrestler. That formula works pretty well for the Kardashians and damn near every reality show on VH1. Will probably be a big draw for women viewers too.

I don't see too many casual fans tuning in to watch Nitro replays from 1997 or some shitty show with Michael Cole and Hornswoggle, but they'll probably watch the Divas show if only to see some skin, and it's that group that the WWE will need to bring in for the network to be successful not hardcore fans who are excited about the prospect of being able to re-watch every Raw, Nitro and ECW from the beginning.

[XL]

I guess.

[Destor]

Kind of agree with this, but don't know the inside of the biz. Gail Kim is a great female worker, in my opinion, and she looks damn fine. She'd be absolutely perfect for this angle with Beth Phoenix & Natalya. A girl with wrestling ability who gets warm-blooded males going is the perfect opponent for them. But they've chosen Kelly Kelly, and while I understand that there is a place for Kelly in the business, I'm just not sure it's as the main protagonist of the Divas Division.

I'd like to know more about what it's like to be a WWE Diva. I assume that there's certain expectations on the girls to keep the boys happy. I imagine it'd be a hard life being in the WWE (as a female) and being seen as a "prude."
They're rats. Seriously. If you arent giving the stroke to someone with stroke you're going nowhere.

[Destor]

FYI: Kelly Kelly is Queen Rat.

[Skippord]

Destor is Randy Orton

[Graspbymyself]

She's a good worker but I lost all respect for her after I herd from Homicide that he mentioned Great Muta backstage when he was in TNA and she had no fucking clue who Muta was. Dumb bitch.

[CSL]

you say that like Muta has Steve Austin name value in the western world

[The Pope]

Or Hulk Hogan value

[Skippord]

you say that like Muta has Steve Austin name value in the western world
as an Asian she should clearly know who Muta is

[Juan]

Are we still talking about how much we dont care about Gail Kim?

[Kane Knight]

you say that like Muta has Steve Austin name value in the western world

Or Hulk Hogan value

Or Stevie Richards value.

[Kane Knight]

Are we still talking about how much we dont care about Gail Kim?

That depends. Is she this "Great Muta" character?

[CSL]

nah, pretty sure Muta was that chinese guy that would hang around with Regal before the Invasion

[Mr. Nerfect]

you say that like Muta has Steve Austin name value in the western world

Come on, to be fair, if you are in wrestling and you don't know who The Great Muta is, you haven't really been doing your homework.

[Mr. Nerfect]

FYI: Kelly Kelly is Queen Rat.

Would not surprise me.

[Captain of Fun]

If he was saying "Keiji Muto" then I would understand, but the Great Muta personality is something one in the wrestling business should at least be aware of.

Maybe not the next top model divas, but someone like Kim who is an actual wrestler? That's a bit surprising.

[Tazz Dan]

Come on, to be fair, if you are in wrestling and you don't know who The Great Muta is, you haven't really been doing your homework.

Was about to say the same thing.

[Kane Knight]

nah, pretty sure Muta was that chinese guy that would hang around with Regal before the Invasion

You mean that Kenzo Suzuki dude? I thought he was Korean.

[Graveler]

You mean that Kenzo Suzuki dude? I thought he was Korean.

Nah man, he means Mr Fuji.

[The Fugitive]

No, no, you're thinking of the wrong guy. Fuji was a manager. The Great Muta was the guy who said 'Evil' and that other Asian guy said 'Indeed!'.

[Kane Knight]

No, no, you're thinking of the wrong guy. Fuji was a manager. The Great Muta was the guy who said 'Evil' and that other Asian guy said 'Indeed!'.

Those guys were named Kai and Thai or something.

[Juan]

Wasn't he in a tag team called the Young Dragons or something?

[Captain of Fun]

You're thinking of the Oriental Express.