2011 The Rock sucks (and doesn't draw either apparently)

[Ice Cream Bar]

WWE has released a preliminary Survivor Series PPV figure of 280,000 total buys. The buy total for The Rock's big return match teaming with John Cena will likely grow by the time WWE reports fourth quarter earnings result, as the preliminary total is only through the end of November. From PWTorch

Last year did 240,000 buys. So The Rock's first match in 7 years only did an increase of 40,000 buys. MITB this year did an increase of 30,000 buys so is CM Punk 75% the draw Rock is? WTF.

This is disappointing as fuck because to me 2011 Rock sucks. And that is really shitty because The Rock used to be fucking sweet and easily one of the best professional sports entertainer wrestler people of all time.

I've been feeling this since the second time I watched Rock's comeback promo on February 14, 2011. It wasn't that good. He said some stupid ass shit (never leaving again) and he didn't bring anything new to the table.

- The Rock's has not cut a single good live promo in 2011. By good, I am talking about Rock standards. He isn't Daniel Bryan or Zack Ryder bad but that is literally impossible. The only promo I actually enjoyed was that one he did on Facebook where he is outside and talks about the Attitude Era and explains the HUGE mistake that was the "never leaving again" line.

- He was awful at Wrestlemania 27 apart from the Austin confrontation. He honestly ruined the main event.

- He looks like a roided freak

- He looks like Goldberg with that stupid goatee

- He just yells now and doesn't soothe us with the best trash talk you can get like he used to

- He always looks UNNECESSARILY INTENSE AND CONFUSED. What the fuck happened to Rock's brilliant facial expressions? He doesn't look cocky and cool anymore at all. He just looks really confused, lost and like he is taking a shit.

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"What the fuck is going on?"

- He lost his charm man. He isn't as big of a draw as made out to be. I wonder how much of WM 27 buyrate was Rock's doing now but I still suspect the majority of that increase was 100% Rock.

- He seems like a bit of an arrogant jerk compared to the past if CM Punk's constant bitching is true

- He hasn't really changed up his promos that much which is disappointing as I thought he'd reinvent himself a little. And on top of that he doesn't deliver the promos the way he used to so they suck now

- The only good thing seems to be that he improved in-ring if Survivor Series is a taste of things to come. He busted out some sweet moves but it's hard to know for sure since he only wrestled like two minutes.

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WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS MAN?

[Rock Bottom]

He's an actor now

[Triple Naitch]

He's yet to hit "Rock Bottom". :lol:

[Ice Cream Bar]

He's an actor now

Then he should be better at playing a role and that's all a wrestling gimmick is

[Ice Cream Bar]

He's yet to hit "Rock Bottom". :lol:

Contribute to the topic or go watch Boy meets world

[Triple Naitch]

I'm watching BMW right now, thanks for asking.

[Ice Cream Bar]

I didn't ask

[Triple Naitch]

Eh, my day was ok. Got a lot of work done for Christmas. I have all my shopping done, just have to pull in a couple of late days at work and I'll be all set for the holiday. Thanks for asking. How was your day?

[Ice Cream Bar]

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[Triple Naitch]

I swear you asked me how my day was and then edited your post.

[Nicky Fives]

PG-13'ers would rather cheer for Super Cena...... and they don't but PPV's.....

[Ice Cream Bar]

Another wrestling thread ruined by the "too cool for wrestling and dont really care but gonna post about it anyway but not really actually gonna post smartass offtopic comments" assholes

[Ice Cream Bar]

I swear you asked me how my day was and then edited your post.

I didn't. Get your eyes checked or upgrade from INTERNET EXPLORER DOG

Now back on topic.

Does The Rock just not give a shit or is he actually nervous? He looks like he regrets coming back

[Triple Naitch]

Why, yes I did get some sweets for Christmas. Got some chocolate covered pretzels. BRB, gonna go eat one.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I swear you asked me how my day was and then edited your post.


I believe this because Trips has TPWW cred.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

[Ice Cream Bar]

Butthurt 2011 Rock marks who don't want to face the truth? :lol:

[Triple Naitch]

K, I'm back. It was a dark chocolate one. Probably my favorite. What's your favorite chocolate covered pretzel? I'd say you are an M&M kinda guy.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I am a big fan of milk chocolate myself.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I miss the old white chocolate covered pretzels I used to buy as a kid. Haven't seen them in years.

[Triple Naitch]

White chocolate is too sweet for my little tastebuds.

[Malfeitor]

I am a big fan of milk chocolate myself.

You need Tru Moo in your life.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I scrolled quickly using the scroll bar. It flashes really nicely. I recommend it unless you're epileptic.

[Triple Naitch]

It's gone. :'(

[Jura]

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BATISTA BOMBED!!

[Swiss Ultimate]

Really starting to love Batista in retrospect.

[Triple Naitch]

I miss Batista every day.

And BATISTABOMBED

[Triple Naitch]

hello it is me batistabombed

if you have forgotten who i am i enjoy doling out online BOMBBBBS to people who wrong me in the style of wwe wrestler Batista who is my favourite wrestler.

i have worked out a formula for my best bomb.

BB (best bomb not batistabombed lol) = 2t x r

where t is a thumb up and r is the ROARRRR sound that batista makes when bombing.

anyway discuss batista or elgar

[VSG]

lol had no idea about BatistaBombed!

[Triple Naitch]

BOMB BOMB BOMB BA BA BA BA BA BOMB BA BA BOMB
BOMB BOMB BOMB BA BA BA BA BA BOMB....BOMB BOMB BOMB


There used to be a lack of champions in the WWE.
You became the man inside of meee
BOMBSSSS began and that held people down for three.


But did you know,
That when you go
My eyes become wet and
The hero you are can be seen


BATISTTAAAAA
I have watched you give a bomb to Booker T.
OOOHHHH,
The more I watch of you,
The greater it feels, yeah.
And now that your BOMB is the champ.
All is right with the WWE.

NOW THAT YOUR BOOMMMMMBB is the champ
A happy man you have made out of meeeee


I heart you Batista and now you have to go bomb the Undertakerrrr

[Triple Naitch]

the other day i was allowed to watch porn well when i say allowed i mean my mum didn't catch me. i was watching wwe ARMAGEDDON and waiting for Batista to beat smelly king booker and finlay wtf he has a lepruchan running around what a silly irishman

anyway i got off the point there.

i turned it over to pornography two women with BREASTS out kissing and i thought omg this is better than Mr Kennedy v the Undertaker Last Ride match but then i turned it back over and the main event was starting crisis averted

[VSG]

lol bless the guy.. Whose sock was it?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

hahaha that is great.

[Triple Naitch]

I like a bench at skool where I can chill with my buddies and look at the sexy ladies lol

Except most girls at my school have horse-faces :rant:

[VSG]

"the other day i was allowed to watch porn well when i say allowed i mean my mum didn't catch me.''

BRILLIANT :rofl:

[Juan]

Hey you guys, Ice Cream Bar wants me to tell you guys to be nice to him. Apparently someone hurt his feelings.

[Triple Naitch]

Sorry, we'll stay on track.

[VSG]

Thanks for babysitting us.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

And if you two don't you are trolling. Which leads to a ban apparently.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

Now with the topic:

Is it because The Rock does not care? I think it is because he hasn't reinvented himself at all which is a shame. Imagine if he did, this could have been like Jericho's 2007-2010 run (although part time but who cares).

Rock just gets a positive reaction no matter what he does so he doesn't push himself further (similar to WWE in general in a way)

[Juan]

Thanks for staying on topic, SEXUAL VANILLA.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

No problem. Do you have any thoughts about the topic at hand? I would love to hear your opinion.

[Triple Naitch]

I wonder how The Rock would have fared against Batista.

Prob like this.

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/635/635699/batista-animal-unleashed-20050721051458719-000.jpg

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

Well he did face Batista although not in a one on one match. He lost the match (3 on 2) but during their time in the ring Rock was more in control. Now 2007 Batista vs 2000 Rock? Who knows.

How do you feel about the 2011 version of The Rock. Satisfied? Underwhelmed?

[VSG]

How would 2011 Rock perform against Batista as compared to Attitude Era Rock? 2003 Rock?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

His goatee is great, I wonder if Batista could grow a great goatee?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I bet he could.

[Triple Naitch]

Batista had a sick soul patch.

[VSG]

2011 Rock has put on more muscles than muscles lost by 2011 Batista, that's saying something.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

How would 2011 Rock perform against Batista as compared to Attitude Era Rock? 2003 Rock?

In a match or during a promo? Matchwise 2011 Rock hints at being a better wrestler from what we saw at Survivor Series but a couple cool moves won't make up for age and ring psychology rust.

[VSG]

Son, NO ONE can beat Dave Batista in a promo.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

One of my favourite Batista promos

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[SEXUAL VANILLA]

Batista kind of looks like The Rock

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Except he doesn't have a sick goatee :-\

[#1-norm-fan]

It was cool when he sang "New York, New York" at Survivor Series.

When he wasted a bunch of time at WrestleMania on awful, long, boring promos, forgettable backstage segments and then ruining the main event... not so cool.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think fans are just getting tired of the Rock's persona. IMO, a heel turn would really freshen things up.

The way I see it, he should come out next week on Raw and tell everyone he has a big surprise that he will reveal at the Royal Rumble. Then sometime at the Royal Rumble, possibly during the Rumble itself, Rock comes out to reveal his big surprise. But to everyone's shock, that surprise is that the Rock has snapped and just beats the crap out of everyone.

Then they could repackage the Rock as a badass submission machine who doesn't take shit from anybody.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Fucking in love with Batista right now. That's right, I said it.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

I think fans are just getting tired of the Rock's persona. IMO, a heel turn would really freshen things up.

The way I see it, he should come out next week on Raw and tell everyone he has a big surprise that he will reveal at the Royal Rumble. Then sometime at the Royal Rumble, possibly during the Rumble itself, Rock comes out to reveal his big surprise. But to everyone's shock, that surprise is that the Rock has snapped and just beats the crap out of everyone.

Then they could repackage the Rock as a badass submission machine who doesn't take shit from anybody.

I don't think Rock or Cena will be turning heel prior to Wrestlemania 28. But afterwards that could be a good idea. What would make it even better was if Rock does everything you said about the big surprise but then shows up via satellite and has some thugs attack everyone for him. The Rock doesn't even show up live for a heel turn.

He could also debut as Hollywood Rock 2.0 or a vending machine.

[Aguakate]

Rock needs to shave the goatee, and come back heel. Bring back "Hollywood Rock", talk down to the fans, and they'll be tuning in, those masochists.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Love you, SEXUAL VANILLA. We have a good rapport.

[Tom Guycott]

Then he should be better at playing a role and that's all a wrestling gimmick is

By this logic, both RVD and Batista should be Oscar worthy actors. :shifty:

It doesn't necessarily translate. Remember the whole "RAW guest host" mess? Some legit actors couldn't promo to save their ass. Not everyone can be a great on-screen legend like Terry Funk!

It might also be possible that since he's broadened his horizons, he more or less "forgot" how to be The Rock. I mean that he hasn't played that role for so long, that it's not second nature anymore.

Won't matter though. The millions... still love him. Myself included.

[Skippord]

way to make me miss BatistaBombed! you dickheads

[Sixx]

Yeah, R.I.P. BatistaBombed.

The guy was money.

[addy2hotty]

I quite like Alex Riley

[#1-norm-fan]

I think fans are just getting tired of the Rock's persona. IMO, a heel turn would really freshen things up.

The way I see it, he should come out next week on Raw and tell everyone he has a big surprise that he will reveal at the Royal Rumble. Then sometime at the Royal Rumble, possibly during the Rumble itself, Rock comes out to reveal his big surprise. But to everyone's shock, that surprise is that the Rock has snapped and just beats the crap out of everyone.

Then they could repackage the Rock as a badass submission machine who doesn't take shit from anybody.

There's a lot of money to be made with heel Rock.

[Attitude99]

It's Not Rocks Fault, WWE PG just sucks too hard. The Rock even had to say in the interview lady parts ??? I Mean Come On, LADY PARTS ?? Stupid PG

[James Steele]

John Cena will turn heel by beating the shit out of The Rock with a chair and cheating to win ala Austin at WM17.

[Lock Jaw]

- He always looks UNNECESSARILY INTENSE AND CONFUSED. What the fuck happened to Rock's brilliant facial expressions? He doesn't look cocky and cool anymore at all. He just looks really confused, lost and like he is taking a shit.

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Takin a shit under the tree.

VINTAGE ORTON.

[Swish]

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[Asmo]

^^^ He looks like Pee Wee Herman in that pic.

[#1-norm-fan]

It's Not Rocks Fault, WWE PG just sucks too hard. The Rock even had to say in the interview lady parts ??? I Mean Come On, LADY PARTS ?? Stupid PG

You think he HAD to say lady parts? What would he have used in place of "lady parts" if it weren't PG?

[James Steele]

You think he HAD to say lady parts? What would he have used in place of "lady parts" if it weren't PG?

Cunt.

"Y'see John Cena, The Rock knows your dirty little secret and The Rock will expose it to the entire world! I'm going to get Randy Orton to teach The Rock a new move because at WrestleMania, John, The Rock is going to take his size 14 boot...shine it up real nice...turn that sumbitch sideways and PUNT YOU IN THE CUNT! IF YA SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLALALALALALALALALALOW WHAT THE ROCK IS COOOOOOOOKIN'!!!!!"

[#1-norm-fan]

Cunt would have worked

[James Steele]

I'd mark out if he said he was going to punt Cena in the cunt.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He got booed for the very reason John Cena shits on him though: he left too many times to film movies.

Most people weren't bored with him by any means. He just wasn't around all the time because his film career was taking off. I Agree that he was awesome when he was Hollywood Rock and he tried his best to put Goldberg over like gangbusters before leaving. The Rock always puts people over ahead of himself.

Although even those he was gone a lot of the time he never hesistated to do a job to get somebody else over. How many lenghty-title reigns did he have? Almost none. John Cena always needs the belt so he can scream "THE CHAMP IS HERE!" His most famous catchphrase is about how he is a championship hog. Even after putting CM Punk over he was the champ like two weeks later. After CM Punk secured the title he was like "Well I need the WWE title now" so I can make my match with Rock so much better."

[Jura]

The Rock has reached Legends status so he would not be booed now unless he was turned heel. Look at Trips, HBK, Taker, Jericho, etc who are now legends and would not have been booed nowadays unless they were meant to be booed.

[Destor]

Then he should be better at playing a role and that's all a wrestling gimmick is
you'd think but you'd be very wrong

[#1-norm-fan]

I'd mark out if he said he was going to punt Cena in the cunt.

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Cena's most famous catchphrase is not "THE CHAMP IS HERE". It's "YOU CAN'T SEE ME". Just saying.

[tjmidnight420]

Cena's most famous catchphrase is not "THE CHAMP IS HERE". It's "YOU CAN'T SEE ME". Just saying.

"You just took you hand away from your ear... and you put it in front of your face, brother."

On a side note we got a Rent a Center ad in the mail yesterday. It's the one with Hulk Hogan and Troy Aikman on it posing with a TV. One of my kids, who is a huge John Cena fan, asked "Who's that" while pointing at Hulk Hogan. Before I had time to think I replied "John Cena's dad."

[Kane Knight]

"You just took you hand away from your ear... and you put it in front of your face, brother."

On a side note we got a Rent a Center ad in the mail yesterday. It's the one with Hulk Hogan and Troy Aikman on it posing with a TV. One of my kids, who is a huge John Cena fan, asked "Who's that" while pointing at Hulk Hogan. Before I had time to think I replied "John Cena's dad."

You're either an awesome parent or a terrible one. Can't tell which.

[ChrisHarvard01]

Another wrestling thread ruined by the "too cool for wrestling and dont really care but gonna post about it anyway but not really actually gonna post smartass offtopic comments" assholes

The story of the forum all last year to date, ICB. :nono:

[Kane Knight]

He got you pretty good, guys.