Supreme presents: WWE RAW Aug 13th 2012 "Linda McMahon creating jobs and paying workers well"

[Savio]

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As SummerSlam draws closer, the plots surrounding the two World Championships have begun to thicken considerably. For the past several weeks, it seemed like the champions were well on the road to retaining their titles, handling their opposition with relative ease and a solid game plan, re-establishing their dominance at each turn. Now, though, WWE Champ CM Punk and World Heavyweight Champion Sheamus find themselves mired in circumstances potentially beyond their control as the summer classic approaches. How will the champs respond?

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[Savio]

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[ClockShot]

I respectfully request the thread title be changed to "Clockshot's 15,000th postapalooza."

Oh and any of my brothers and sisters here in Connecticut, vote for Shays.

[Krimzon7]

Here we go... Wait, that's not right
IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY.....dammit that's not it
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT'S TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMM.....FUCK, not it either

fuck it let's do this!

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Clearly we listened to <a href="https://twitter.com/cmpunk"><s>@</s><b>cmpunk</b></a> when he said the WWE Champion belongs in the main event. Enjoy seeing him wrestle at 8pm <a href="https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23RAWTonight"><s>#</s><b>RAWTonight</b></a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/235134956798607360" data-datetime="2012-08-13T22:05:16+00:00">August 13, 2012</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=109788

Hop over to the chat thread :wave:

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>As Raw GM, I've decided at <a href="https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23Summerslam"><s>#</s><b>Summerslam</b></a> this Sunday, <a href="https://twitter.com/mikethemiz"><s>@</s><b>mikethemiz</b></a> will defend his Intercontinental title vs <a href="https://twitter.com/reymysterio"><s>@</s><b>reymysterio</b></a> .How awesome is that?</p>&mdash; A.J. (@WWEAJLee) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEAJLee/status/235146391981273088" data-datetime="2012-08-13T22:50:43+00:00">August 13, 2012</a></blockquote>

[Savio]

Its cool AJ wish it had some build up though

[ClockShot]

I guess minorities holding titles was a big complaint at that "big meeting backstage".

Look what came out of it.

[PorkSoda]

Someone hit me with a stream

[ClockShot]

So, my request was denied then. I see. :'(

[CSL]

http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=109788

Hop over to the chat thread :wave:

why don't you eff off with that effin gaylord chat you effin cumsponge

[Keith]

It's beginning to bother me to see Big Show be featured so prominently.

I just don't buy him as a "monster" anymore.

[Poit]

What's wrong with the chat? :(

[Keith]

When did Daniel Bryan become Bob Backlund?

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: random crazy Bryan moment.

[CSL]

What's wrong with the chat? :(

don't see the point in it I guess when there's a RAW thread already in existence. Plus you tend to get some variety of throbber like owenbrown then mentioning something like it's relevant to everybody because it was spoken about in the chat. And the last time I saw one it was like 85% muties

[CSL]

I couldn't actually really care less, the only part of the above post that's anything approaching relevant is "don't see the point" and the excellent word "throbber"

[Poit]

Tonight's main event will be Cena/Punk vs. Bryan/Show.

[KIRA]

to those who say bryan isnt over did you fuckin see when he entered the arena?t

aI'd love it if its touched on that bryan cost show the belt a few times and that they dont like each other

but I'm watching the WWE

[ClockShot]

Whoever is in charge of AJ's wardrobe needs to be fired.

[Cool King]

Why is AJ dressed like a 70 year old business woman?

[KIRA]

Why is AJ dressed like a 70 year old business woman?


I said the other week the corporate look does not become her maybe a skirt in place of pants or a more casual top

[ClockShot]

Why is AJ dressed like a 70 year old business woman?
PICK ME! PICK ME! :wave:

15k post.

Milestone!

[ClockShot]

PISSED OFF WRESTLERS ALERT!

[Keith]

Why is AJ dressed like a 70 year old business woman?

She's dressing like Stephanie McMahon did back when she was Smackdown GM.

[KIRA]

Its JTG

being thrown a bone before they fire his ass

[Cool King]

Fuck yeah, Kaitlyn.

[Heisenberg]

Kaitlyn exposure on RAW, A.J. has pull backstage it seems, good stuff.

[Poit]

don't see the point in it I guess when there's a RAW thread already in existence. Plus you tend to get some variety of throbber like owenbrown then mentioning something like it's relevant to everybody because it was spoken about in the chat. And the last time I saw one it was like 85% muties

The chat works when the board doesn't. Also, it's a different dynamic to talk about stuff in real time.

[ClockShot]

Why is AJ dressed like a 70 year old business woman?

Because a 70 year old business woman is running for Senator.

[Keith]

LOL WWE is going to get back at JTG live on RAW.

[Poit]

What is this shit music?

[ClockShot]

Black ref better help the brother out.

[Cool King]

lol new theme.

[Savio]

JTG will pull through

[Cool King]

His theme would be better without the cheesy "Feed Me!" quote.

[KyleEmmott]

I love the JTG segment, 1,2,3! Than a Ryback match.

[KyleEmmott]

GOLDBERG!GOLDBERG!

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably safe to assume everyone who spoke out during the meting are future meals for Ryback these next few weeks.

[KyleEmmott]

WOW, THE CROWD WAS BEHIND THAT CHANT.

[ClockShot]

Heh. Cole dropped the tweet reference.

[KIRA]

Ryback stole and remixed kosloves theme

[Keith]

That new theme's kinda cheesy, but ok.

[ClockShot]

#Heelpit.

[Heisenberg]

Those polls are bullshit.

[Aaronp43]

ok why is ryback crying

[Keith]

Why not have Piper interview HHH and Brock Lesnar on the Pit?

Can you imagine Paul Heyman doing his mic thing on Piper?

[Cool King]

I bet they'll all appear anyway.

The winner of the vote will obviously appear, but then during Piper's Pit, the other two will show up.

[KIRA]

WOW, THE CROWD WAS BEHIND THAT CHANT.

Its not organic like Goldberg was it had to be force fed via commentary, and now his theme he has to get the crowd to chant it.

[KyleEmmott]

It better be Jericho.

[ClockShot]

The pre-show match is for the U.S. Title?

The fuck. What a waste of tipsters points.

[KyleEmmott]

HBK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KIRA]

Id love to be pipers grandchild and get him to go on a crazy old man rant I bet itd be vira

[Keith]

Here's Owen Wilson.

[Cool King]

The One Man BAAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaaND!

[KyleEmmott]

The "We Hate Cena" guy is in the audience.

[Cool King]

I'd like to see a Slater win tonight.

[KyleEmmott]

Why are the Tag Team Champions never in a match?!

[KIRA]

I'd love to be pipers grand kid and make him upset enough to go on a crazy old man rant
viral gold

[Savio]

I want to see R-Truth on Pipers pit.

[ClockShot]

Where's the mouthpiece?

Oh yeah.....

[Savio]

Where's AW at?

[KIRA]

they look naked without AW

[Cool King]

Slater doing air guitar will be a gif by the end of the week.

[Keith]

'the fuck are Darren and Titus doing?

And who thinks that looks cool?

[GD]

I am huge fan of the The Prime Time Players.

[KyleEmmott]

I already miss AW.

[GD]

I have this Brock-Steph-Heyman-HHH segment by heart.

[KyleEmmott]

I have this Brock-Steph-Heyman-HHH segment by heart.
Don't we all? lol

[KIRA]

Slater needs to come out with one of those multi instrument things straped to his body y'know just to really drive the point home

[Keith]

LOL HBK in his promo said "This is not my fight, I don't even know why I'm in this".

Now during the video package we heard him say he was going to be in Triple H's corner at Summerslam.

[KyleEmmott]

I wonder if these polls are legit?

[Heisenberg]

I wonder if these polls are legit?

Nothing legit about those polls, tellin' ya.

[Savio]

HBK will be destroyed to night setting up Brock/HBK at Survivor Series

[KIRA]

I wonder if these polls are legit?


haha no.

[ClockShot]

Mizark got a free trip to London.

Gotta be nice to have time off.

[ClockShot]

Pauly D is the "social media ambassador".

Might be turning this off early.

[Heisenberg]

The crowd comin' through with boos for that Jersey Shore dude.

[KIRA]

they made their olympics congrats sound tragic

[KyleEmmott]

DJ Pauly D....Kill me now. At least the crowd booed him.

[Cool King]

NBC? Sensational coverage?

All I've heard is that NBC's coverage of the Olympics was shit.

[KIRA]

The crowd comin' through with boos for that Jersey Shore dude.

Pauly d oh for fucks sake WHY?

[Cool King]

That's it Sheamus, keep being that ☆. :y:

[KyleEmmott]

I wish Smackdown went live.

[KyleEmmott]

It's not an exclusive it's on RAW.

[Cool King]

Urgh, promos via Tout. :roll:

[KyleEmmott]

Booker T is going to be an awesome GM.

[McLegend]

Does anyone else hate tout's as much as I do?

[KIRA]

Booker reminds me of that dog mutant from the Island of dr. Moreau in that Tux

[Cool King]

Does anyone else hate tout's as much as I do?

I really don't like Tout. It's just a video version of Twitter, which I also hate.

[Savio]

They need Segal for this Expendables movie.

[KyleEmmott]

Tout is ruining the WWE, I hate these stupid promos through phones.

[Cool King]

They need Segal for this Expendables movie.

I've heard that he's apparently signed up for Expendables 3.

[KIRA]

WWE wants to whore out to every piece of social media there is Vince needs to look up the term overexposed.

[KyleEmmott]

I've heard that he's apparently signed up for Expendables 3.
Same here.

[KyleEmmott]

I'm actually interested in this match.

[DaVe]

Why does Tensai push past Sakamoto every single entrance?

[ClockShot]

Poor Sakamoto.

I await the day he just snaps and goes apeshit on Albertsai.

[KyleEmmott]

Houston > Dallas

[Emperor Smeat]

I wonder what is going through Sakamoto's head right now considering if Tensai looses, its a beating and if Tensai wins, probably a beating backstage.

[GD]

Everybody knows Sakamoto can beat the living daylights out of racist Train.

[Cool King]

Botch.

[ClockShot]

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

[DaVe]

lol the 10th beatdown of sakamoto in as many weeks

[Heisenberg]

Oh no, Tensai is so lucky to have a manager that will job to him like this.

[KyleEmmott]

I think at some point, Tensai will snap and become Albert again.

[ClockShot]

The television hunter has become the hunted.

[Cool King]

I hope all these loses to the smaller guys works as a way for Tensai to give up the whole Japanese thing and go back to Albert/A-Train, who just beats the shit out of guys during his matches.

[GD]

All the divas need to gather around Sakamoto and tell him that he doesn't need take shit from Tensai. He deserves more.

[KIRA]

Poor Sakamoto.

I await the day he just snaps and goes apeshit on Albertsai.

Itd be awesome if he was obfuscating weakness and one week just takes Tensai apart

[ClockShot]

Ooooh. The Raid: Redemption comes out tomorrow. Gonna get that.

[Cool King]

Why does Tensai push past Sakamoto every single entrance?

Because he's in his way?

[KyleEmmott]

Same commercials everytime.....

[ClockShot]

That "Real Deal" shirt Roddy's sportin' is more like an "Iron on Deal".

[Heisenberg]

Same commercials everytime.....

Just go poop or run around the neighborhood for 2 minutes, that's what I do when I hit my breaking point with USA TV Show commercials or 5 Hour Energy Drink BS.

[Cool King]

Real deal?

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/brown3.jpg

[ClockShot]

Not even a full hour for voting.

Bullshit.

[Cool King]

This will turn into a match, featuring Jericho.

[ClockShot]

Jericho's done the day after Summerslam right? Might as well make the most of it for him.

[KyleEmmott]

I was at WM 25, jussayin

[Cool King]

What the fuck, Cole?

Random.

[Savio]

No reason for cole to shit on this

[KIRA]

had to wake up their kid when they realized piper was talking about him

[DaVe]

Because he's in his way?

Well, yeah. I don't understand why it is done every single entrance, what is its purpose? Logically one would get out of the way after it happens the first couple times.

[KyleEmmott]

SHUT THE HELL UP

[Cool King]

lol, Piper living in the past.

Male + Pink = gay.

[Heisenberg]

Y2J! Y2J! Y2J!

[KIRA]

The guy in the pink shirt is talking about obnoxoious getups

[ClockShot]

What the hell is Piper doing?

[KyleEmmott]

I'M GOING TO MISS HIM. I'm loving this promo

[Heisenberg]

Miz has grown on me, and the belt looks good on him.

[wolfman]

gotta love Y2J

[KIRA]

so what was the point of that voting thing

[Cool King]

I bet they'll all appear anyway.

The winner of the vote will obviously appear, but then during Piper's Pit, the other two will show up.

Shit, I was right. :lol:

[Heisenberg]

I'M GOING TO MISS HIM. I'm loving this promo

Just gives us an excuse to have him come back and SAVE US.

[KyleEmmott]

And Jericho is much more of a decorated superstar than eveyone in the ring.

[Savio]

Teddy Long is going to make a tag match

[ClockShot]

Triple threat for tonight?

[Cool King]

So far, every single "Raw Active" voting thing has been absolutely pointless.

[KIRA]

Miz trying to strike up a bromance

[GD]

Remember when Teddy Long gifted us with a Fatal 4 Way TLC Match for the tag straps at Armageddon 2006?

[KyleEmmott]

So far, every single "Raw Active" voting thing has been absolutely pointless.
Like when we got to pick the stipulation for Sheamus-Daniel Bryan & pretty much every choice we're the same match type.

[ClockShot]

Linda McMahon just robocalled my house looking for my vote.

Too bad it wasn't an actual human being on the other end.

[Savio]

Y2J has won at mania aswell

[KyleEmmott]

Sonic commercials are the only good thing in commercial breaks.

[Cool King]

Well, yeah. I don't understand why it is done every single entrance, what is its purpose? Logically one would get out of the way after it happens the first couple times.

Well, serious answer, I'm assuming it's to make Tensai look more of a jackass, and that he just wants to get on with the match and kick his opponents ass.

Also, it could be a way of stopping the whole Japanese thing like I mentioned earlier. Tensai could say he has no time for the "Japanese crap" that Sakamoto does, as he just wants to kick his opponents ass.

We've seen recently that Tensai is slowly distancing himself from the Japanese stuff. No entrance attire, dropping "Lord" from his name, not having time for Sakamoto's blessing/purifying and also beating the shit out of Sakamoto too.

[ClockShot]

Blind people are writing this show tonight.

[KyleEmmott]

How about make the actual match in person, not on Twitter!!!!! SOCIAL MEDIA IS RUINING THE WWE.

[Cool King]

This will turn into a match, featuring Jericho.

I seem to be on somewhat of a roll tonight.

[KyleEmmott]

Like my Signature?

[KIRA]

They both shop at walmart for their shirts?

[KyleEmmott]

The Miz is not growing on me.

[KIRA]

miz and his new boyfriend gettin killed by Jericho

I may be wrong but the miz's actions and tone toward ziggler was "I like you alot dude"

[KyleEmmott]

Just going to say it one more time, I hate the same commercials we get to watch every week.
Does the USA network not get more than 10 different commercials?

[GD]

I will never forget the sight of Charles Robinson setting up a steel cage at a house show.

[KyleEmmott]

This could be the last time we see Chris Jericho on Raw for awhile.

[Emperor Smeat]

What a great match.

[Cool King]

That was a good match. :y:

[GD]

The Miz has barely won any matches ever since winning the Intercontinental Championship.

[GD]

The quality of matches on RAW is improving like crazy.

[Cool King]

Lesnar looks like such a hick in that picture.

[Savio]

The Miz has barely won any matches ever since winning the Intercontinental Championship.
But he didn't win any matches before

[KyleEmmott]

5 hour energy.....suck it!

[GD]

Lesnar looks like such a hick in that picture.

They need to stop using stills and use interactive (where wrestlers moved and stuff) versus mode like before.

[KyleEmmott]

No one wants to see you at Summer Slam Pauly D!

[Emperor Smeat]

Was that guy in the background picking his nose during almost the whole Punk talking to Cena segment?

[KyleEmmott]

MORE SUBWAY

[KIRA]

No one wants to see you at Summer Slam Pauly D!
'people in fact want you dead as a favor to human race Pauly D

[Cool King]

"Life is pain"?

Barrett about to debut a new Emo gimmick soon?

[Cool King]

Awesome, Kaitlyn has a match!

[GD]

I approve of the "We want Sable" chants.

[Heisenberg]

Awesome, Kaitlyn has a match!
:y::y::y::y::y::y:

[Innovator]

Hey they remembered Brock broke Trips's aem

[KyleEmmott]

If Kaitlyn wins the smackdown match, then....HOUSTON is running Smackdown. Hell yeah

[GD]

Hey they remembered Brock broke Trips's aem

Remember when Triple H was suppose to face Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship but he was awarded the World Heavyweight Championship instead :yes:

[Savio]

I like the promo but I have seen it way to many times

[rockman725]

I approve of the "We want Sable" chants.

I'm pretty sure it was "we want tables" cause right after that they did a "we want fire" chant.

[Savio]

Your a Cop! I'm an undercover cop!

[Savio]

CM Punk said raw will end with him standing on top......So will he come out and attack Lesnar and HHH?

[Cool King]

Is this the main event? :-\

We have an hour left. Unless Lesnar and Triple H are getting about 30 minutes to sign a piece of paper.

[Jari]

I like how CM Punk is rocking the HHH-esque mutton chops.

[KIRA]

How many matches is this week

[Heisenberg]

Ditches tag team partner, gets shoulder rubs from audience. CM Punk, that's respect right there.

[Savio]

Is this the main event? :-\

We have an hour left. Unless Lesnar and Triple H are getting about 30 minutes to sign a piece of paper.
Shoulda been an Ironman Tag match

[Cool King]

"Santi-Sandow!"

[KIRA]

I heard Sandy

[Damndirty]

If Lesnar were bald, I think we'd discover he's a conehead.

[Cool King]

"Here Comes The Pain" sounds shit when Cole says it.

We need Tazz back, just for as long as Lesnar is around at least.

[Damndirty]

Love Heyman, but when I hear his voice, I hear the Aflak duck....

[Cool King]

Haha, Heyman using Sandow's quotes. :y:

http://t.qkme.me/3p5adb.jpg

[Keith]

I like this Brock Lesnar.

He looks comfortable as hell with Paul by his side. Makes him look even tougher.

[Keith]

Something's not right here...seems like a swerve is coming.

Somehow.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>10 years later and I still love the way Heyman says <b>Brock Lesnar</b>. It's like the verbal equivalent of bolding a word.</font>

[Savio]

Something else has to happen or they just wasted one of his dates

[Keith]

Let's be real: Why else would WWE involve HBK in this 2 weeks before the match unless he's going to play a hand in the outcome of a match?

[KIRA]

<font color=goldenrod>10 years later and I still love the way Heyman says <b>Brock Lesnar</b>. It's like the verbal equivalent of bolding a word.</font>

AMEN so much so its the only way I hear his name in my head

[DaVe]

lol what exactly is happening in the last 20 minutes

[Savio]

Let's be real: Why else would WWE involve HBK in this 2 weeks before the match unless he's going to play a hand in the outcome of a match?
I think he is going to get "injured" then face brock at Survivor Series.

[Keith]

I think he is going to get "injured" then face brock at Survivor Series.

Or turn on "The Game" and set up the rumored WM29 match between the two.

[Savio]

lol what exactly is happening in the last 20 minutes
I dunno maybe they are ending early......We haven't seen Sheamus, ADR, or Kane yet though

[KIRA]

lol what exactly is happening in the last 20 minutes

a mass public firing of "disgruntled talent"

[Cool King]

MAMA MIA!

[Keith]

We're gonna get Touts and recaps.

Fucking people.

[KIRA]

my god touts really? fuck this.

[Savio]

HBK thinks Brock is Super Sayian

[Keith]

Geez! I just can't shake the feeling that HBK is going to turn on HHH!

FUCK!

[Savio]

And our main event of the evening...............Touts!

[Cool King]

Next time we see Shawn, he'll be getting placed inside an ambulance.

[Heisenberg]

I feel sorry for the guy that has to view all the TOUTs and figure out which ones to post. That's a shitty ass detail.

[KIRA]

HBK thinks Brock is Super Sayian

he isnt?

[Keith]

If WWE keeps this up, why watch all 3 hours?

Might as well just watch the last hour. You're still going to get recaps.

[Savio]

oh fuck no

[Keith]

LOL Brock shot HBK!

Brock shot HBK!

[Savio]

I dont think that was supposed to cut out

[Cool King]

We need a picture or it just sounds like they're raping him.

[Savio]

LOL Brock shot HBK!

Brock shot HBK!
COMPTON MUTHA FUCKA

[DaVe]

Next time we see Shawn, he'll be getting placed inside an ambulance.

lol, pretty much

[KIRA]

damn PG in the attitude era I'd be seeing that ass whoopin


it sounded like offscreen punch sound effects in a looney tunes cartoon

[Heisenberg]

Rent-a-car blocking, car snatching, camera malfunctioning. I....

[Indifferent Clox]

literall 8 minutes, or 30 minutes, (depending on how it goes) legt

[Keith]

I dont think that was supposed to cut out

We need a picture or it just sounds like they're raping him.

Maybe HBK and Brock are in "cahoots", and Brock intentionally knocked out the camera and never really beat up HBK! Maybe they just made it sound like he did, so HHH will believe it, and then on Sunday, BAM! Sweet Chin Music on HHH!

[Savio]

NUCLEAR HEAT ON BROCK LESNAR FOR BREAKING THE CAMERA

[Keith]

Maybe this is similar to when Bret Hart "broke" his leg before WM26.

It's a set-up to fool Triple H and the Double-Double-E Universe.

[Savio]

Epico did it

[dronepool]

HBK vs Brock at WM would be cool...

[Heisenberg]

Lesnar taunting to build up his finisher, plugging the WWE '13 game.

[Keith]

It was Rikishi.

He did it for The Rock.

[Savio]

Do the brock lock!

[Keith]

Seriously guys, this is all very weird haha.

I don't even know...

Call me crazy but I still feel HBK will turn on HHH!

He'll go like "This is your fault, Hunter!"

[Savio]

Lesnar taunting to build up his finisher, plugging the WWE '13 game.
lol

[KyleEmmott]

I think this going to end in 2 ways:

A.Shawn Michaels is going to turn on HHH for getting him into the mess & blame it on him.

B. Shawn Michaels will end up having a match with Lesnar

[Keith]

Or:

C. All of the above

He may do both.

[KyleEmmott]

Or:

C. All of the above

He may do both.
That would be pretty awesome.

[Damndirty]

Three way at Mania or sooner?

[KyleEmmott]

Three way at Mania or sooner?
I'm going with Mania.

[Lock Jaw]

Shawn Michaels won't be wrestling anybody.

[Lock Jaw]

Highlight of the night was JTG telling the ref to keep Ryback away from him because he didn't want to get pink eye.

[Skippord]

lol watching this now, Ryback's new music is ludicrous

[Skippord]

Damien Sandow may really be my favorite wrestler right now, dunno why. Love him

[Skippord]

Triple H punched a car

fucking ow

[Skippord]

I could really use a few touts on what's happening to Shawn Michaels right now

[Feed me!]

Summerslams not lookin that special is it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think Summerslam is gonna be great. You may be sick of the Triple H/Brock build, but I think the match will be sweet. Ziggler/Jericho should be tits. Sheamus/Del Rio should be a good actual match. The 3-Way for the WWE title will be good. Daniel Bryan/Kane could be a sleeper hit....I can't really see too many holes in the card at all.