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Anybody Thrilla
09-06-2012, 04:26 AM
From the Best Wrestler thread:

After a long deliberation, I've cast my vote. Kurt Angle is truly amazing. Kurt Angle has given me many memories, but Chris Jericho has given me all that and then some. Chris Jericho was my 1st "favorite heel" in WCW. You never forget your 1st bad guy you love.

He's right, I think. For me, it was Owen Hart. I knew that I wasn't supposed to like him, but he was just so damn entertaining that I couldn't help it.

Who was the first heel that you liked?

Kalyx triaD
09-06-2012, 04:30 AM
Ric Flair

CSL
09-06-2012, 04:33 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tF5ltP_3V8Q/TES_tnohtcI/AAAAAAAAAOk/6WUt4VoFrh0/s1600/108.jpg

#1-norm-fan
09-06-2012, 05:34 AM
I think I KINDA liked HBK before he turned face. I remember when Sid turned on him I got excited about the potential face turn. I don't remember actually rooting for him when he was a heel though.

The first heel that I was really 100% behind was Austin when he started feuding with Bret. Mainly because I was a huge HBK mark and became anti-Bret and thus loved Austin.

stultiloquy
09-06-2012, 07:07 AM
For me it was probably Undertaker.

When I was a kid, I remember seeing him destroy Hulk Hogan, and trap Ultimate Warrior in a coffin, and I knew their intention was for me to boo him, but I was loving every second of his stuff.
Of course I was a little kid, and I thought that he really was destroying Hulkamania and banishing Ultimate Warrior forever.


If I think about after I smartened up and was wise to the whole thing, it would probably be Vince Mcmahon during his feud with Steve Austin.

I was never a big Stone Cold fan anyway, but during that time Vince was hilarious and fun to watch, mostly because we never got to see that side of him until that point. When I watched RAW at that time, I knew Stone Cold would curse and raise hell, etc...but I was more interested in seeing what kind of corporate abuse of power Vince was going to unleash, or what he was going to do once Austin got his hands on him.

Shisen Kopf
09-06-2012, 08:32 AM
Easy one, Macho King Randy Savage. When he was feuding with the warrior I wanted him to beat him. Oooooh Yeah!

loopydate
09-06-2012, 09:01 AM
Ted DiBiase

Corporate CockSnogger
09-06-2012, 09:05 AM
I don't really know, maybe Undertaker. Can't really remember.

Autobahn
09-06-2012, 09:06 AM
Triple H or the Rock, both corporate versions

Corporate CockSnogger
09-06-2012, 09:08 AM
Jeff Jarrett might have been one of the earlier heels I enjoyed as well.

Cool King
09-06-2012, 09:10 AM
I don't really know, maybe Undertaker. Can't really remember.

Kane Knight
09-06-2012, 09:11 AM
I always cheer the faces and boo the heels.

Razzamajazz
09-06-2012, 09:47 AM
la parka

GD
09-06-2012, 10:13 AM
http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/brock_lesnar_wwe_marichi.gif

Brock Lesnar!

Schlomey
09-06-2012, 10:15 AM
Answer: Def Undertaker.

Joesgonnakillyou
09-06-2012, 10:50 AM
With me cheering a abd guy was extentions of my loyalty. For example I loved Owen Hart, and when he went heel in 1994 I stayed liking him out of loyalty.

I stopped watching for a bit, started watching again because of The Rock in late 1998, when he turned heel at Deadly Game. I stuck with him because he was already one of my favourites.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll
09-06-2012, 10:57 AM
Rick Martel.

Cool King
09-06-2012, 11:00 AM
Actually, when I think about it, I'm now sure it was actually Chris Jericho that was the first heel that I liked.

I remember I disliked Undertaker a some points during his feud with Austin, because I loved Austin so much. But as I was a "WWF guy" back when I was a kid, I never watched WCW, so I wasn't familiar with Chris Jericho at all. So when he debuted and interupted The Rock, I remember immediately thinking "Wow, that guy is so cool!".

I loved his promo, his name and his look, and I just thought he was a really awesome guy, but he was bad guy. I then began liking him more and more and enjoying his matches and pretty much every promo he did. I also thought his insane fashion sense was amazing.

Chris Jericho would later go on to become my favourite wrestler ever. :y:

Heisenberg
09-06-2012, 11:18 AM
Rick Martel.

Million Dollar Man, Repo Man, and Heel Tatanka are also worthy of mention.

Sixx
09-06-2012, 11:20 AM
Hollywood Hogan. This was way back when we only got WCW in Poland and the internet wasn't so common. I knew nothing about WWF.

And it wasn't like I liked him being a heel, I just loved Hogan, I wanted him to be cheered. But he was a heel back then.

Then, we got WWF (in German) on DSF and I loved The Rock.

Supreme Olajuwon
09-06-2012, 11:26 AM
Easy one, Macho King Randy Savage. When he was feuding with the warrior I wanted him to beat him. Oooooh Yeah!

XCaliber
09-06-2012, 11:28 AM
I wanna say Mr. Perfect was the first one but there were several that followed.

edyhdrawde
09-06-2012, 11:48 AM
Ric Flair and then the Four Horsemen and then Barry Windham.

Emperor Smeat
09-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Can't remember exactly who would be my first but its probably Razor Ramon considering I liked him before he showed up on WCW and the eventual formation of the NwO.

He's the earliest I can think of since the original NwO, Hollywood Hogan, The Rock, original DX, and Stone Cold were all liked after him. Jericho became my most liked heel once the nWo became stale in routine.

Shadrick
09-06-2012, 01:24 PM
Rock

ooTin
09-06-2012, 01:26 PM
When the WWF first attempted to turn Steve Williams heel. I fell in love with his fuck you attitude. :heart::heart:

Lock Jaw
09-06-2012, 01:33 PM
I have no idea. There were probably some as a kid. I want to say The Million Dollar Man and IRS (Money Inc). Maybe Ric Flair or Macho Man/King.

When I actually got "hardcore" into watching wrestling.... maybe Mankind. Though I think I was always rooting for Taker, so maybe not. I loved Bret Hart as a "heel", but won't count him since he was still a Face in most of the world.

Anybody Thrilla
09-06-2012, 02:23 PM
Easy one, Macho King Randy Savage. When he was feuding with the warrior I wanted him to beat him. Oooooh Yeah!

I cried when Savage smashed that scepter over the Warrior's head. The Warrior was my favorite. Don't tell anybody, please. :$

Anybody Thrilla
09-06-2012, 02:26 PM
Actually, when I think about it, I'm now sure it was actually Chris Jericho that was the first heel that I liked.

I remember I disliked Undertaker a some points during his feud with Austin, because I loved Austin so much. But as I was a "WWF guy" back when I was a kid, I never watched WCW, so I wasn't familiar with Chris Jericho at all. So when he debuted and interupted The Rock, I remember immediately thinking "Wow, that guy is so cool!".

I loved his promo, his name and his look, and I just thought he was a really awesome guy, but he was bad guy. I then began liking him more and more and enjoying his matches and pretty much every promo he did. I also thought his insane fashion sense was amazing.

Chris Jericho would later go on to become my favourite wrestler ever. :y:

The concept of somebody loving Jericho without knowing of his WCW heel run is almost shocking to me.

Wehttam
09-06-2012, 02:33 PM
really thought owen hart was 'cool' i had an older brother and i felt like i really connected with owen. then i just realized he is an awesome character.

RiX1024
09-06-2012, 02:50 PM
Edge and Christian in 2000. and Kurt Angle of course.

Corporate CockSnogger
09-06-2012, 03:04 PM
The concept of somebody loving Jericho without knowing of his WCW heel run is almost shocking to me.

I'm the same as Cool King with Jericho. Didn't see much of his WCW run but loved him when he came to WWE, even if (I think) he was feuding briefly with Road Dogg when he came in and I loved Road Dogg.

Anybody Thrilla
09-06-2012, 03:07 PM
Not trying to discredit Jericho's post-WCW work because he did some awesome stuff, but WCW is when I marked the hardest.

Lock Jaw
09-06-2012, 03:15 PM
I refer Cool King and Iggy here: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90342

Skippord
09-06-2012, 04:44 PM
probably The Brood or something

Crimson
09-06-2012, 05:15 PM
HBK for sure...he just would look so cool coming out to that cool theme song and his entrance and everything. One of my early favorite matches was him defeating the Bulldog on FOX i think it was for the IC belt.

Jordan
09-06-2012, 05:33 PM
I think I always liked heels as much or more than faces... I remember really enjoying Ted Diabiase, The Undertaker when he was a heel as well.

Juan
09-06-2012, 05:55 PM
It was either HBK or Mr. Perfect

XL
09-06-2012, 06:00 PM
I always cheer the faces and boo the heels.

Fucking hipster.

Fox
09-06-2012, 06:08 PM
Mine was Eddie Guerrero when he was running the LWO in WCW.

I was definitely a full on mark back then and loved the good guys and hated the bad guys - I was also a die-hard WCW fan and hated the "evil, lame" WWF. And as much as I loved Kidman and Rey Mysterio, there was something really fun about Eddie's tirades against WCW and his rallying of his fellow latinos that got me on his side. I loved the LWO and wanted Mysterio to join them. He was also the best worker in the company and even as a mark I respected how great he was in the ring.

Curd
09-07-2012, 12:35 AM
I became a "smart mark" when Eric Bischoff revealed the results of the RAW tapings on Nitro and was accurate every time! Also, I checked out DDP's "Union of the Diamond Cutters" website and Jericho's website; both featured candid comments to the fans about their feelings on the direction of the industry, something we'd never see printed or hear broadcasted outside ECW before the Monday Night Wars.

And when I learned about ECW, I looked online for match summaries and read synopses of the promos poking fun at WWE and WCW, further refining a vague understanding of the industry.

Blitz
09-07-2012, 03:28 AM
Waylon Mercy.

dronepool
09-07-2012, 03:40 AM
I think I always liked heels as much or more than faces...

This. Heels and people in the grey are the best.

AKin3D
09-07-2012, 04:06 AM
Mr. Perfect was my first heel I loved.

I also was taken by most members of the The Heenan Family, so I wasn't much of a face lover growing up.

ooTin
09-07-2012, 03:25 PM
Jericho is a very very close 2nd for me. I loved the 1004 holds segment. EPIC

Heyman
09-08-2012, 03:08 AM
From the Best Wrestler thread:



He's right, I think. For me, it was Owen Hart. I knew that I wasn't supposed to like him, but he was just so damn entertaining that I couldn't help it.

Who was the first heel that you liked?

Steve Austin in 1997.

I also had a huge hard on for The Rock in 1998.

Fignuts
09-08-2012, 10:57 AM
Mr. Perfect

CSL
09-08-2012, 11:11 AM
This. Heels and people in the grey are the best.

stop being such a Dronepool

Gertner
09-08-2012, 11:25 AM
Hollywood Hogan. I was a huge Hogan mark growing up and sorta jumped ship when Hogan turned heel and formed the NWO.

whiteyford
09-08-2012, 11:29 AM
Vader when he was tearing through WCW in the early 90s probably.

Taker it Easy
09-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Shawn Michaels. He ruled my life as a young wrestling fan. From the heart shaped glasses to WM12 and then DX and beyond. Up until the Matt Hardy back and shitty pants and then his ability to not accept the nature of his hair.

Listen. Looks are important to me as a wrestler. If you look like shit then that effects me, Rey Mysterio pants I am looking at you.

Rey returns with tighter black pants, OMG Rey is awesome in this match.

Corporate CockSnogger
09-08-2012, 01:17 PM
Both Rey and Michaels have/had knee problems and wore knee bulky knee braces. Would look a bit ridiculous having tight pants showing off their bulging knees.

Taker it Easy
09-08-2012, 01:53 PM
Both Rey and Michaels have/had knee problems and wore knee bulky knee braces. Would look a bit ridiculous having tight pants showing off their bulging knees.

I don't care about those knees, what they have on them or not. They chose stupid looking pants and they lost my mark for it. Stone Cold didn't give a fuck.

CSL
09-08-2012, 01:54 PM
taker it easy Taker it Easy

Curd
09-08-2012, 10:08 PM
I don't care about those knees, what they have on them or not. They chose stupid looking pants and they lost my mark for it. Stone Cold didn't give a fuck.

Yeah, even DDP continued to wear tight pants (jeans in lieu of tights proper) over his knee braces, and he looked appropriate.

Sixx
09-09-2012, 05:34 AM
Best HBK ring attire:

http://ourwweviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/14188.jpg

It's because of the cowboy boots.

mike adamle
09-09-2012, 07:20 AM
My first favorite heel was either Owen Hart or Razor Ramon, not sure which

Feed me!
09-09-2012, 07:30 PM
The nasty boys

MoFo
09-09-2012, 09:06 PM
RVD or The Dudleys

SammyG
09-09-2012, 10:27 PM
N. W. O.

weather vane
09-09-2012, 10:52 PM
Probably either Rick Rude, Mr. Perfect, Ted Dibiase, Rick Martel, Honky Tonk Man, or the Rougeaus...

Road Warrior
09-10-2012, 05:01 AM
Always cheered for Mr. Perfect. I remember being really upset that he lost to Bret at SS 91

Ultra Mantis
09-10-2012, 09:00 AM
I always used to play as Million Dollar Man on WWF Super Wrestlemania

Team Sheep
09-11-2012, 09:34 PM
Kurt Angle I think. When he won the title at No Mercy 2000 it was so surreal for me as I'd only seen the big guys like Triple H, Rock, Austin and Big Show hold that big belt. Awesome moment so I had to love him and it felt really monumental.

DLVH84
09-12-2012, 01:02 AM
Hollywood Blonds

Zeeboe
11-05-2012, 10:38 AM
From the Best Wrestler thread:



He's right, I think. For me, it was Owen Hart. I knew that I wasn't supposed to like him, but he was just so damn entertaining that I couldn't help it.

Who was the first heel that you liked?

Me too. Owen that is. I was the baby of the family so I could relate to Owen. I then started liking the New Hart Foundation in 1997. I also liked The West Texas Rednecks in 99' WCW. I also sometimes liked Hollywood Hogan because I was such a Hogan mark growing up.

I even liked RTC for some reason - lol. I think it's because they just made me laugh and their music was annoying but also oddly entertaining. I loved when Richards first came out with that music blaring and he made one of the Diva's put like a bag or something over herself to cover herself up and the audience chanted "Faggot" at him! :lol:

There may be a few other heels I liked, but those are the only ones who stand-out.