Official I Didn't Read the Spoilers and will watch Raw live Thread for 11/5

[Corndad]

Yea Title says it.

[Cool King]

I didn't read the spoilers and will watch Raw live.

[Corndad]

Horray!

[Poit]

I didn't read the spoilers and will watch Raw live.

[Droford]

Anyone else get an impact vibe from the start of raw

[Droford]

In English I'm gonna kick yo...

[GD]

Join the chat ladies

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[Corndad]

LOL at Rey and Sin Cara doing the PTP dance

[Cool King]

Cesaro & The Primetime Players. :y:

[Cool King]

Anyone else get an impact vibe from the start of raw

I got an "American Gossip Show" vibe from it.

[Droford]

Wwe should bring back the six man tag belts wcw had

[GD]

The English people love the PTPs.

[DrCrawford]

is it just me or does it look really washed out

[Emperor Smeat]

Read the spoilers right when RAW started just to see what parts would be the best but wow at how bad or confusing some of the stuff gets.

[Schlomey]

Wish I could join the chats. Watching live but my iPad wont load the chat....any helpers?

[Rollermacka]

Completely Random, I kinda wanna see The Great Khali tonight (I know who ever thought there would be a Khali request on this fourms) I missed his "big return" on Smackdown, I wouldn't mind seeing the big lug do some dancing tonight.... maybe the Funkasauras found a dance partner? :naughty:

[Schlomey]

Just sits and spins

[Droford]

Cessaro would make a more sensible tag partner for Damien sandow

[DrCrawford]

and im really starting to dig titus if for no other reason than his barking

[Cool King]

Damn, they lost. :(

[Schlomey]

That opening tag match was great. Really looking forward to survivor series. First time in a while....

[Corndad]

State of Undress. Daddy likey.

[Droford]

Lol if Maddox goes out and says I did it..I did it for the rock

[Schlomey]

Just thought that dro lol

[Poit]

"You have an answer for everything."

Clearly a sign someone's guilty.

[Schlomey]

Anyone going to raw next week? Buying a ticket tonight I think....

[Cool King]

Lol if Maddox goes out and says I did it..I did it for the rock

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2384/ididitfortherock.png

[Cool King]

Vickie should wear a John Cena mask and have mock sex with an AJ mannequin.

[Corndad]

I think its 5 Moves John

[PorkSoda]

Cena just became self aware.

[GD]

Crowd is amazing.

[Cool King]

Crowd is amazing.

That's us Brits for you.

[Corndad]

lol Dolph

[GD]

That's us Brits for you.

I thought you were Scottish. Excuse my ignorance.

[Cool King]

I thought you were Scottish. Excuse my ignorance.

I am. Scotland is a part of Britain.

Well, possibly until 2014, at least.

[Cool King]

Barrett wearing a Poppy.

Good man. :y:

[Corndad]

These Brits are fantastic lol

[SammyG]

My prediction is that Bryan loses in a short match.

[Cool King]

No entrance for Rhodes.

[Schlomey]

Great raw so far damn I'm pumped....for a change.


Pretty sure I'm going to raw next week. Waiting on my buddy to decide.

[SammyG]

OMG I'M SO GOOD AT PREDICTING THINGS

[Corndad]

Really? That should have lasted alot longer then that.

[GD]

Join the chat thread

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[Schlomey]

I wish I could ...this thread sux. No conversation...just random posts. Wish I could get my iPad to load e chat.

[Cool King]

They did the exact same thing on SmackDown with Mysterio & Cara and The Primetime Players.

[Corndad]

I wish I could ...this thread sux. No conversation...just random posts. Wish I could get my iPad to load e chat.

Have you been in a Raw thread recently? That kinda is what it is. Just random thoughts everyone watching together.

[Blakeamus]

I love this crowd!

[GD]

Brad Maddox recovered faster than Tim White.

[Cool King]

Those are the exact same busses we have in Dundee.

It's weird seeing them on Raw.

[Cool King]

It's nice of Brad to travel to Birmingham even though he's suspended.

[Corndad]

Was just thinking that. Wonder if he paid for his own travel

[Corndad]

Wasn't expecting this approach to an explanation

[Cool King]

lol, bad one Brad.

Brad: People know my name in England!

Fans: Who are ya!? Who are ya!?

[Corndad]

The Boss is here...

[Immortal Moose]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>If Brad Maddox beats Ryback, maybe he'll become a real boy. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RAWTonight">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/265635183036874753" data-datetime="2012-11-06T02:02:17+00:00">November 6, 2012</a></blockquote>
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[Corndad]

So are they switching the Main Event?

[Emperor Smeat]

So is the Maddox storyline going to end by next week unless something fishy with Heyman/Punk occurs?

[Corndad]

Well so much for Cena/Dolph at Survivor Series.

[Droford]

If Maddox beats ryback does he get put in the main event vs Cena and punk?

[Droford]

If so, Maddox should pay the ref of that match to low blow ryback..since he'll have 1 million dollars

[Corndad]

Don't understand anything that just happened. What was the point of last week's show?

[Droford]

EDon't understand anything that just happened. What was the point of last week's show?

They realized how stupid the 5 on 5 was and how bad the ppv buy rate would be?

[Immortal Moose]

Don't understand anything that just happened. What was the point of last week's show?

There's supposed to be a point?

[Poit]

I'm confused. Is there now a WWE Championship match at Survivor Series?

[Droford]

Show Sheamus 2 needs a stipulation

[Immortal Moose]

I'm confused. Is there now a WWE Championship match at Survivor Series?

Yes...:shifty:

[Droford]

Punk pins Cena after ryback meat hooks him, just like I said they should have done with the 3x at hac

[Droford]

I don't get why they'd put SD on "live" on election night when it won't be live anyway

[Rollermacka]

Holy Crap, a movie featuring both Stone Cold and Steven Segal? :eek:

[Cool King]

lol, love Big Show.

[Corndad]

So weird having Cole be the face commentator

[Corndad]

There's supposed to be a point?
You would think SOME logic would come into play sometimes lol Oh well hope they still do a 5 on 5 match. Keeps Survivor Series different then just another PPV in the year.

[Droford]

Lol cranky old bastard

[Cool King]

CRANKY VINCE.

[Corndad]

What is wrong with her... What is wrong with her... LOL

[Corndad]

Wonder if Foley will still be involved with any of this going forward?

[Droford]

Fanangoo? I thought it was jericho

[Cool King]

This kind of thing calls for GTV.

[Cool King]

Talking about camera angles, J.R, that was a good one for Eve's entrance.

[Emperor Smeat]

So nothing really happens to Cena regardless of what occurs in the AJ-Cena relationship.

They get caught as a couple, only AJ is punished. Nothing is found, AJ keeps her job or goes back as the GM.

Have they've ever mentioned what happens to Cena in either case?

[Cool King]

I've been enjoying Aksana's new theme a lot recently.

[McLegend]

Now Eve is obviously smokin hot, but she doesn't look that good here.

I'm disappointed

[Droford]

Kaitlyn got the jobber entrance

[Cool King]

Kaitlyn, fuck yeah!

[Corndad]

Kaitlyn gets a Raw match!

[Cool King]

I miss Beth. :(

[Droford]

Is the diva division basically this match plus natalya, Alicia fox and aj?

[Cool King]

She got the pin!

[Droford]

Kaitlyn's not a jobber!

[Corndad]

Kaitlyn you sexy amazing beast you.

[Cool King]

Kaitlyn you sexy amazing beast you.

[Droford]

Can't believe I'm going to wrestlemania

[Juan]

Me either

[GD]

I am not going to Wrestlemania :(

[Droford]

Well I am, I don't expect tix to sell out during the pre sale Thursday and I know the pre sale code like everyone else lol

[Cool King]

I'm really hoping to be able to go to WrestleMania XXX.

[Droford]

Kofi should have multi colored straps for the ic title to match what he's wearing

[Droford]

Chili bowl match?

[GD]

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[Rock Bottom]

kofi is awful

[el bobbo]

Got home at 8:15 and I am currently caught up with my DVR. #3HourRAW

[GD]

"Mister nose days off Darren O'Neil" - Michael Cole

[Cool King]

Primo & Epico!

And Rosa!

[Rollermacka]

Second Random Thought of the night, we need a guy in the WWE with brightly colored/ crazy hair style. Every season of the Ultimate Fighter has a guy with funky hair (there was that guy with the bright green curls and several guys with pink hair)

Ryback is old news, we need a new monster but this time, give him a snazzy hair style

[Corndad]

When are they gonna let Naomi wrestle again?

[Corndad]

Hope they aren't rushing the King back too soon.

[Corndad]

That was an awkward cut lol

[Emperor Smeat]

Jinder looks pretty awkward when he does the air guitar bit

[Cool King]

3MB are slowly winning me over.

They seem to be molding more into an actual team, rather than just three randomers thrown together and given a shit reason for doing so.

Key word: Slowly.

[Rollermacka]

Random Thought 3, Wade Barrett really can't grow a great beard. It's all spotty, nowhere near as badass as Sandow's

[GD]

Jinder looks pretty awkward when he does the air guitar bit

Because he looks like a terrorist with the turban on?

[Droford]

Where was drew?

[Poit]

Is the diva division basically this match plus natalya, Alicia fox and aj?

And Tamina!

[Droford]

Because he looks like a terrorist with the turban on?

2 men and a terrorist

[Droford]

Pretty crazy punk is 2 weeks short of a year long reign as champ and will probably go even further

[Poit]

2 men and a terrorist

And a pizza place?

[Lock Jaw]

Terrible RAW. Don't get the point of pretty much undoing everything from last week.

Ryback pinning Punk in a random tag team match on RAW is also a terrible idea.

I don't get what is so hard to understand about building up to Ryback getting his hands on Punk. A survivor series match would have been great.

Plus Cena had a whole program with Viki/Dolph/AJ going on and was potentially building to Dolph/Cena.... Cena hasn't even mentioned Punk or the title in weeks.... but nah, let's drop that too and drop the whole Punk/Foley thing to make a Triple Threat.

I really don't know what is going on with the WWE.

[Aikido]

I'll tell you what makes no sense, and i'm sure you guys noticed it as well, at the top of raw, after miz quit team Punk, heyman recruited barrett with the stipulation that heyman would owe barret, now with punk and heyman in the triple threat scene, what allegiance would barrett have to team ziggler, i wonder how they fix that shit

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wish I could join the chats. Watching live but my iPad wont load the chat....any helpers?

Get the JTV IPad/Iphone App. Think that's the only way you can get through Apples horrible no-Flash support policy.

Ah shit I missed the chat and Seth was there. Oh well.

[Lock Jaw]

I'll tell you what makes no sense, and i'm sure you guys noticed it as well, at the top of raw, after miz quit team Punk, heyman recruited barrett with the stipulation that heyman would owe barret, now with punk and heyman in the triple threat scene, what allegiance would barrett have to team ziggler, i wonder how they fix that shit

They won't.

[Lock Jaw]

Also, what the hell is Miz doing at Survivor Series, then? He is on the freakin' poster, and he is no longer in a match, and has pretty much zero momentum in his career again.

Unless next week Foley (who has no reason to captain a team anymore) cuts a promo on him that turns him instantly into a Face and he joins the Face team.

[Aikido]

Also, what the hell is Miz doing at Survivor Series, then? He is on the freakin' poster, and he is no longer in a match, and has pretty much zero momentum in his career again.

Unless next week Foley (who has no reason to captain a team anymore) cuts a promo on him that turns him instantly into a Face and he joins the Face team.

I notcied Miz on the poster in the office as well, and i was considering the same thing, the first idea that popped in my head was "face turn?" i dont see it happening, as much as i want a miz face turn, the only thing that would make sense would for him to be the captain of the team, given his position on the poster, again high unlikely.......

[Aikido]

Also, what the hell is Miz doing at Survivor Series, then? He is on the freakin' poster, and he is no longer in a match, and has pretty much zero momentum in his career again.

Unless next week Foley (who has no reason to captain a team anymore) cuts a promo on him that turns him instantly into a Face and he joins the Face team.

I correct myself, if they went into survivor series one man down, and out of nowhere miz joins the face team and wins it for them, than he could be the hero of survivor series, which might be why he's on the poster

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So is it still Team Foley Vs. Team Punk even though both are now not even a part of it?

[Lock Jaw]

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"I'm afraid I've had one of my trademark unpredictable changes of heart..."

[owenbrown]

Where the fuck is Gertner at to call this "THE GREATEST MOTHERFUCKING RAW EVER AND RYBACK SHOULD BE WWE CHAMP RIGHT FUCKING NAO ZOMG!!!!1!!one!!!1!!"

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So is it still Team Foley Vs. Team Punk even though both are now not even a part of it?

Nope. It's team Ziggler vs Team Orton.

I just have no words for this show. It seems like they decided at some point during the actual filming to change it all. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have had Heyman get Wade otherwise.

Whole show has a whiff of WCW late 2000 about it.

[Fignuts]

What a clusterfuck.

On the bright side, woohoo possible Miz face turn.

[Lock Jaw]

I just don't see why Miz would turn face and team with the guy who beat him three times in a row and took his title.

[James Steele]

While a clusterfuck, it all makes sense in the grand scheme of things. They are building on the whole idea that CM Punk has become Vince McMahon's obsession for destruction. Wade Barrett is going to use this whole Paul Heyman thing to probably get a title shot or somehow join together with Punk. They are still building Cena/AJ/Vickie/Ziggler. The Miz is an arrogant ass and is trying to regroup after losing his title and rematch with Kofi. Ziggler and Orton is a rumored feud going forward, so they have Orton put over Ziggler before Ziggler/Cena amp up their feud. We still have weeks until the Survivor Series and the story is still being told. It is unpredictable and made me go "Holy shit..." instead of the "What the fuck?!?!" I usually give TNA when they do clusterfucks. Vickie is going to try and balance her attempt to get Ziggler the title, screw Cena/AJ, and kiss Vince McMahon's ass which might lead to her completely changing things up again next week when Vince McMahon isn't there to force her to make decisions.

Maybe, she decides John Cena is the 5th man and add Ryback to Team Foley to make all 3 men in the WWE Title match compete twice at the Survivor Series and make Cena miserable by having to be on Team Punk while doing the first ever 6v6 Survivor Series match. Builds to Ryback being the sole survivor but taking a serious beating to win the Survivor Series match but not win the WWE Title match when he nails Cena with Shellshock but Punk gives him a head kick and throws him out of the ring to pick up the scraps and retain thus beating Cena AGAIN. Cena can't claim another title match, so he focuses on AJ/Vickie situation. Ziggler beats Orton at TLC and then they finally go "too far" with AJ and Cena/Ziggler have the first match at the Royal Rumble.

It is long term booking with the look of uncertainty. They are still telling the same stories they have been, but building them slower and not just doing quick feuds and automatically booking it for the PPV. Isn't that what you are always bitching about? 3 week builds to a PPV and then they just move on or have 3-4 more matches in a row? This is good stuff and don't crucify it before the story is finished being told.

[James Steele]

Also, there is a person running for a seat in South Texas. I wonder if it is the same Michael Cole we all know and hate. Michael Cole is a Texan.

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[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm really hoping to be able to go to WrestleMania XXX.

Guessing the subtitle for it will be “Hot Lesbian Action”. :shifty:

[James Steele]

WWE missed a great opportunity by NOT having Michael Cole announce he would run for President with Bob Backlund as VP and The Miz as Press Secretary.

[Rock Bottom]

Dumb move not to have Ryback beat Punk at HIAC, then beat him in a match. Of course Ryback can beat Punk. Everyone knows that. Don't give away in a tag match what you failed to produce in a PPV. It's anticlimactic. You should have had John Cena pin CM Punk with a clean AA in the tag match. It'd help erase the multiple victories Punk picked up over Cena during Punk's initial push.

Other than that, there were a lot of good things. Barrett.

I laughed my ass off when Cena came into the ring after the match and just stared at Ryback while Ryback flailed his arms and said "feed me more" over and over. Ryback obviously seemed to "get" that he and Cena have no beef other than the title. Instead of plowing him over, he just yelled at him and Cena did nothing. lol

[Rock Bottom]

I also laugh when Punk waves goodbye to everyone while Ryback has him up for a Shell Shock. The heels in the WWE are starting to be red hot. Let's face it, they're way better than the face line up.

[drave]

Heels are where it's at man. All the faces are pretty much the same, and lame. Sure it is a delicate balance, but the Punk wave was subtle, yet targeted who he wanted it to, well played.

He is rumored to retire 2014 anyhoo, wouldn't be surprised. I bet he is somewhat annoyed with the whole RyBAcK explosion thing, if his first "pipe bomb" still holds merit