The Official Wrestling Whinge Thread

[Tazz Dan]

Ok guys, use this thread to bitch about Cena/Rock all you like between now and Wrestlemania, cause it's gonna get old seeing it in every thread between now and then.

Just think of me as TPPW's own Dr. Shelbey, and thank me for giving you all a place to air your frustrations later :)

[Shisen Kopf]

TPPW rocks!

[owenbrown]

would be nice if Gertner was banned

[Tazz Dan]

This does not include you though owenbrown. I don't want your fucking crying in here.

[Tazz Dan]

And there we go.

[Bad News Gertner]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooø! Na na na na. Na na na na! Hey hey hey good bye vanilla midget! Wooooooooooo sports entertainment is serious business!

[Keith]

This was a pretty good PPV start to finish. Pretty solid. Nothing to whine or bitch about. Del Rio/Big Show surprised the hell outta me. Much better than I thought it would be.

[Tazz Dan]

This was a pretty good PPV start to finish. Pretty solid. Nothing to whine or bitch about. Del Rio/Big Show surprised the hell outta me. Much better than I thought it would be.

Cena wins the rumble and will most likely face The Rock at mania again. You haven't been a part of the IWC for too long have you.

[Bad News Gertner]

Fantastic matches tonight top to bottom

[Shisen Kopf]

would be nice if Gertner was banned

We can't ban him Owenbrown. He's won a spammy. If you win a spammy it's harder to get banned. I've won a few myself how many have you won?

[Arrogance]

Great PPV, personally butthurt over no Ziggler win/cash, but who cares.

[MoFo]

Cena/Rock II is way better than any Punk as champ alternative, so like, fuck you.

[Tazz Dan]

Please keep all owenbrown trolling to a minimum also. Only fair I guess since I'll probably delete any posts he makes attacking yourself and Gertner.

[Bad News Gertner]

Cena/Rock II is way better than any Punk as champ alternative, so like, fuck you.

Wooooo we did it! No more falling asleep during Raw!

[Tazz Dan]

Cena/Rock II is way better than any Punk as champ alternative, so like, fuck you.

No way, anything less than Slater vs THE RYBACK unifying every title in the world in a 240 minute submission iron man match is just horrible.

[owenbrown]

Bobby Jaggers sucks

[Keith]

Cena wins the rumble and will most likely face The Rock at mania again. You haven't been a part of the IWC for too long have you.

Well I haven't been on here long, but while I don't love Cena, I don't despise him. They've had him kinda off the spotlight for some time, so I have no problem with him going to WM to face Rock.

[owenbrown]

actually Zombie Bobby Jaggers would probably main event Wrestlemania better than Dwayne/Super Cena 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Bad News Gertner]

Bobby Jaggers sucks

Uncalled for!

[Bad News Gertner]

No way, anything less than Slater vs THE RYBACK unifying every title in the world in a 240 minute submission iron man match is just horrible.

Slater has a rematch clause from Monday night so you might be right!

Btw Slater lasted 20 minutes in the Rumble.

[Tazz Dan]

Well I haven't been on here long, but while I don't love Cena, I don't despise him. They've had him kinda off the spotlight for some time, so I have no problem with him going to WM to face Rock.

You missed my point.

[Bad News Gertner]

I'm so happy that the Rock won that I could hug a Dolphin!

[Keith]

You missed my point.

I understood your point. The IWC hates Cena so anything he accomplishes has to be torn down.

I got you.

[Tazz Dan]

Honestly though, I couldn't care less about people's own opinions on things, we're all entitled to our own (except James Diesel and mike adamle (and owenbrown)), but I don't think I can handle all the constant complaining that's going to happen over the next 10 or so weeks in every single thread.

[Bad News Gertner]

Honestly though, I couldn't care less about people's own opinions on things, we're all entitled to our own (except James Diesel and mike adamle (and owenbrown)), but I don't think I can handle all the constant complaining that's going to happen over the next 10 or so weeks in every single thread.

Ill cancel it all out! Wooooo!

[Tazz Dan]

I understood your point. The IWC hates Cena so anything he accomplishes has to be torn down.

I got you.

Your reply made it seem otherwise. As you were.

[Razzamajazz]

i wasn't a fan of the good 10 minutes of commercials, but from top to bottom this was a great show

[Razzamajazz]

also censoring the swearing? gtfo wwe censors

[James Steele]

The matches were great, but the finishes to the two main matches were so obvious we over-thought it and talked ourselves into thinking it wasn't going to go that way.

[Tazz Dan]

The matches were great, but the finishes to the two main matches were so obvious we over-thought it and talked ourselves into thinking it wasn't going to go that way.

I think this is pretty much spot on. Whether it was predictable or not, I think everyone knew how it was going to go. Doesn't take away from the fact that all the matches on the card were good.

[Keith]

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[Triple Naitch]

Bobby Jaggers sucks

Shouldn't speak ill of the deceased.

[Tazz Dan]

You're Welcome

[Shisen Kopf]

Uncalled for!

Yeah really. He was a great rassler and you talk crap about him. Have you no dignity Owenbrown? you want to start a race riot/war in New Jersey and now this? you're outta control. ANyway, Rock/Cena II will be good if it features a special guest referee like lets say CM PUNK

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I was pissed off about Rock/Cena initially...not because they're bad performers or anything. Far from it. But I thought Rock/Cena last year was a disappointment, I'm not a fan of the same exact match closing out consecutive WrestleManias, and it's blatantly obvious Cena will be getting his win back.

But...the crowd will be shit hot for the match and will probably be a fun environment. I'll get to see an Undertaker streak match live, possibly against CM Punk. Jericho might now be in the fold. Team Hell No will do something fun. Cody/Goldust or some variant of that might happen. Orton could be a heel by then and way more interesting as a result. HHH/Lesnar, if it happens, has a chance at being much better if they actually get a chance to wrestle and not try to make it a shoot. And most importantly, I've got the luxury of going to WM without having to spend an exorbitant amount on travel, since I can drive there.

Just gonna sit back and enjoy the build up.</font>

[Corporate CockSnogger]

This PPV was awful, the only sighting of Billy Gunn was in a bloody promo.

[owenbrown]

Yeah really. He was a great rassler and you talk crap about him. Have you no dignity Owenbrown? you want to start a race riot/war in New Jersey and now this? you're outta control. ANyway, Rock/Cena II will be good if it features a special guest referee like lets say CM PUNK

I didn't say RACE riot you stupid son of a bitch dickwad, I just said RIOT, like when the Lakers win an NBA championship, which was 50 years ago it seems.

[CSL]

stupid son of a bitch dickwad

[CSL]

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[Triple Naitch]

I didn't say RACE riot you stupid son of a bitch dickwad, I just said RIOT, like when the Lakers win an NBA championship, which was 50 years ago it seems.

Is that because only black people like basketball, Owen? Jesus, man. :roll: :nono:

[dronepool]

It should be a triple threat for WM. Punk vs Rock vs Cena.

[Shadrick]

It should be a triple threat for WM. Punk vs Rock vs Cena.

This is what I want, really.

[KaosDarksol]

If this means we get punk vs taker at mania then I'm glad for it. Also we all knew the rock and cena were going to win so that's not a big deal. Maybe we will get some swerves between now and mania that gives us cena and del rio

[Bad News Gertner]

I just really want to thank you guys so much for continuing to be wrestling fans during these past 400 plus days. I know it was very rough at times, but FINALLY THE RATINGS HAVE COME BACK TO THE WWE!

[Shisen Kopf]

Cena vs Rock III wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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[Bad News Gertner]

The only downside was Bret Hart being on the PPV. Streams didn't die when he came onscreen, they got bored and left.

[Shisen Kopf]

Bret Hart is by far the greatest rassler to ever come from America's largest national park.

[Fignuts]

I think it's all really great.

[Lock Jaw]

I'd be fine with it if it wasn't for CM Punk's streak. You just don't make a guy the longest reigning champ in 25 years to have the payoff being making a part-time guy look good. Well, actually... I guess you do. I wouldn't have though.

[Shisen Kopf]

They should have the rock beat the undertaker at WM. wouldn't that be neat? End two super streaks. That would make the Rock the Best greatest rassler in the world.

[Lock Jaw]

He should do it with the People's Elbow too. Like it is the one move that can put Taker away... forget Pedigrees.... Superkicks.... it is all about the People's Elbow.

[Bad News Gertner]

He should pin him with the People's Eyebrow

[Shisen Kopf]

What is the EXACT number for the Rock's workrate you may be axing yourself. Well, it's been a while, but I just got off the phone with a team of rasslin researcher in the serious business wing at the International Academy of Rasslin Workrate and midget porn and they said that the Rock's workrate coefficient is precisely 77.87473463. Wow. Punk is merely a 63.4748482636210283737

[Bad News Gertner]

That's very close to what I had

[PullMyFinger]

The Rock winning the title = logical and badass. Cena winning the rumble to have the same match as last year = boring. I get that Cena is the biggest WWE wrestler today, but we already saw that match last year - and if all we ever focus on is Cena being the top dog, no one else will move up there. I thought CM Punk and Rock was fresh, and the right guy won...the Rock is hands down the best. Rock vs. Brock would've even been better.

The only way to redeem this shit is for the Rock to cleanly pin Cena at WM. Next night, since he is leaving unfortunately, which means WWE will be shite again, the Rock should hand the WWE title to Vince, say thanks for everything, and let it be that...a title tourney or something.

[Tazz Dan]

Good Thing they didn't so Taker/HBK Taker/HHH 2 years in a row, would have been dull matches every second year.

[Tazz Dan]

Also, Rock just handing the belt back wouldn't redeem anything, it'd just shit on Punks reign.

[PullMyFinger]

I get your point - but the Rock isn't around as much as HBK was back then, HHH, or Taker...Rock may not come back for a hell of a long time. So mind as well insert some other marquee match ups while you can, not just make the Rock's rare returns 75% Cena. I'm not saying pick someone like Daniel Bryan that won't be nearly as huge of a draw, but Brock Lesnar would've banked, Ryback wouldn't probably have banked as much, but it wouldve been a fresh opponent. Or Ziggler even. e

[PullMyFinger]

Also, Rock just handing the belt back wouldn't redeem anything, it'd just shit on Punks reign.

It would piss off every IWC kid and every Cena fan, which is fine by me. I like Punk and all, but the Rock is miles above all the other wrestlers today. Lets be realistic here.

[Tazz Dan]

Taker wasn't around anymore the Rock has been.

[Tazz Dan]

It would piss off every IWC kid and every Cena fan, which is fine by me. I like Punk and all, but the Rock is miles above all the other wrestlers today. Lets be realistic here.

If we're being realistic, you wouldn't have said Rock is miles above all the other wrestlers today.

[Tazz Dan]

I so get what you're trying to say though, I think.

[PullMyFinger]

And from WWE's current stock of everyday wrestlers, Cena is the marquee guy today. But I don't get the idea of him only being the marquee protected guy, even when Punk was champion, Cena was still the face of the show. They didn't even do that with Austin in the Attitude Era, he was the face of the show but Mankind and the Rock were given full opportunities to be the top dog as well. Not blaming Cena for any of this, I think he's a hard worker and quality guy, it comes down to WWE just focusing on one guy solely to be face with no one else being able to get near his level. Ryback is the first guy in a long time it seems like WWE is giving a chance to be on Cena's level.

[Tazz Dan]

Also, the IWC has no age limits.

[Fignuts]

I don't mind Rock vs Cena II. It will have an amazing electricity to it.

Plus I like that the whole rock/cena feud tells a story across years, rather than a few months like most feuds. It's a match that like Taker vs HBK, is special enough to be at mania twice in a row.

[Impeccable]

What is the EXACT number for the Rock's workrate you may be axing yourself. Well, it's been a while, but I just got off the phone with a team of rasslin researcher in the serious business wing at the International Academy of Rasslin Workrate and midget porn and they said that the Rock's workrate coefficient is precisely 77.87473463. Wow. Punk is merely a 63.4748482636210283737

Was your rasslin' researcher Scott Steiner by any chance?

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[PullMyFinger]

If we're being realistic, you wouldn't have said Rock is miles above all the other wrestlers today.

How is that not realistic? Best wrestler today. Gets the crowd on his side more than anyone, whether he is heel or face. His charisma and skills in the ring and mic are unparalleled...minus Hogan. Work rate isn't what makes a wrestler the best, being a wrestler is being an entertainer, and the Rock has mastered that. Even transcended into Hollywood because of it, and is the only mainstream relevant guy today minus Hogan again, who is considered cool. Not Cena, not Daniel Bryan, not Punk, or anyone else for that matter.

[Impeccable]

I could go for Rock/Cena/Punk at 'Mania

[Fignuts]

If we're being realistic, you wouldn't have said Rock is miles above all the other wrestlers today.

From a charisma standpoint he is. No one in the WWE can capture a crowd like the Rock.

Cena has come close, ironically in his war of words with the rock. He'd walk into an arena with everyone booing him, but then he'd lay down a sick freestyle or cut an awesome promo, and the whole crowd was cheering him.

But he's inconsistent. He always goes back to the goofy, forced, shitty cena.

[Tazz Dan]

And from WWE's current stock of everyday wrestlers, Cena is the marquee guy today. But I don't get the idea of him only being the marquee protected guy, even when Punk was champion, Cena was still the face of the show. They didn't even do that with Austin in the Attitude Era, he was the face of the show but Mankind and the Rock were given full opportunities to be the top dog as well. Not blaming Cena for any of this, I think he's a hard worker and quality guy, it comes down to WWE just focusing on one guy solely to be face with no one else being able to get near his level. Ryback is the first guy in a long time it seems like WWE is giving a chance to be on Cena's level.

But really, Cena is the new Austin in the fact he's the face of the company, and Punk, Sheamus, Mark Henry and Big Show to name a few have been given opportunities around him.

I believe they should be working better on pushing new talent, don't get me wrong, but everything that's happening is being done from a business perspective. How many people here stream PPV's? It's not like the IWC would ever come close to providing the WWE with the money sponsors do, and until that day comes, and it never will, things will continue on the way they are, whether we like it or not.

That's being realistic.

[PullMyFinger]

From a charisma standpoint he is. No one in the WWE can capture a crowd like the Rock.

Cena has come close, ironically in his war of words with the rock. He'd walk into an arena with everyone booing him, but then he'd lay down a sick freestyle or cut an awesome promo, and the whole crowd was cheering him.

But he's inconsistent. He always goes back to the goofy, forced, shitty cena.

+1. Exactly. Work rate doesn't mean anything, at the end of the day, wrestling is sports entertainment for a reason, it's not a true athletic sport based on who's skills are more superior...its entertainment. Who can capture a crowd and work well.

[Tazz Dan]

From a charisma standpoint he is. No one in the WWE can capture a crowd like the Rock.

Cena has come close, ironically in his war of words with the rock. He'd walk into an arena with everyone booing him, but then he'd lay down a sick freestyle or cut an awesome promo, and the whole crowd was cheering him.

But he's inconsistent. He always goes back to the goofy, forced, shitty cena.

I didn't see charismatic standpoint stated anywhere in his comment. If they hadn't gone full in PG and Cena wasn't made to change his character to adjust, I don't think we'd be having this conversation.

[Tazz Dan]

+1. Exactly. Work rate doesn't mean anything, at the end of the day, wrestling is sports entertainment for a reason, it's not a true athletic sport based on who's skills are more superior...its entertainment. Who can capture a crowd and work well.

You need to keep in mind that Rock has the advantage of being an attitude era guy. Not that I'm shitting on him, but wrestlers from that time always get put on a pedestal when compared with today's comment.

[PullMyFinger]

But really, Cena is the new Austin in the fact he's the face of the company, and Punk, Sheamus, Mark Henry and Big Show to name a few have been given opportunities around him.

I believe they should be working better on pushing new talent, don't get me wrong, but everything that's happening is being done from a business perspective. How many people here stream PPV's? It's not like the IWC would ever come close to providing the WWE with the money sponsors do, and until that day comes, and it never will, things will continue on the way they are, whether we like it or not.

That's being realistic.

Cena is the new Austin, but like I said, in Austin's days people had the opportunity to be the top face too, and Mankind + Rock took it. Now its not the case. In my opinion, it's a combination of WWE's fault and some of the wrestlers. I can't stand Cena's character, but he does know how to work emotions and the crowd, whether we love to boo him and hope he loses, or we cheer him on to win....he's not to the level of the Rock, but he's the only wrestlers today who is active who can even come close to even trying on that level. WWE's fault I already mentioned in my last post about the whole protecting him on the marquee factor...but some of the fault does go on some of the new wrestlers today. I agree with what Triple H said last year to HBK on Raw, on how they're a dying breed. You don't see that much heart and passion in some of the wrestlers today as u did a decade ago for whatever reason. Cena's a hard worker and has that passion, which is why he's in the position he's in. You don't get that sense from some of the other wrestlers, its too systematic almost it feels like.

[PullMyFinger]

Anyhow, oh well, it is what it is, at the end of the day I don't really care...just mentioning my two cents. I'm happy the Rock is the champ again, and Cena/Rock isn't what I wanted to see, but it'll be a great match up nonetheless. Don't watch much wrestling anymore, not that entertaining, but from RR-WM is gets entertaining and with the influx of Lesnar and the Rock, it has me intrigued. So enjoying it for what it is.

[Fignuts]

And from WWE's current stock of everyday wrestlers, Cena is the marquee guy today. But I don't get the idea of him only being the marquee protected guy, even when Punk was champion, Cena was still the face of the show. They didn't even do that with Austin in the Attitude Era, he was the face of the show but Mankind and the Rock were given full opportunities to be the top dog as well. Not blaming Cena for any of this, I think he's a hard worker and quality guy, it comes down to WWE just focusing on one guy solely to be face with no one else being able to get near his level. Ryback is the first guy in a long time it seems like WWE is giving a chance to be on Cena's level.

There is no one in the WWE that is on as close to level of talent with cena, as mankind and the rock were to austin. At least not from a marketablility standpoint.

Punk cut's great promo's and is great in the ring, but as a character, he doesn't stand out very much. He doesn't have that over the top personality that it takes to really be in that echelon that the rock is in.

Orton just sounds awkward and forced, every time he talks. He can't play a face to save his life.

Ryback obviously can't talk for shit. That's probably a part of the reason he has this gimmick.

Sheamus is nothing special outside of his look and accent.

There's no one around Cena, because they just don't have anyone capable of being on his level.

[PullMyFinger]

You are right actually, I take back that argument...well part of what I said already agrees with you, but I take back the bit of WWE not putting anyone to Cena's level. That goes on the wrestlers today then.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ryback has better mic skills than people say he does. He's not fantastic, but he holds his own on the mic.

[PullMyFinger]

Ryback doesn't have great mic skills, but his character is simple enough to get behind him. He's like Goldberg back in the day or the Warrior....not the best, but if he can get the crowd behind him on just 4 words and to come out and fight, why not, he's good enough. I don't find him as entertaining as Goldberg though, but I'm not going to hate necessarily. I've seen worse faces to get behind...like Sheamus. He's just too boring and plain.

[Fignuts]

He's not good enough to be a top guy. He hasn't shown me anything great in the ring either.

I like watching him annihilate part time taco bell employees too, but he can't hang with the big dogs imo.

I'd put my chips on Big E. Langston. Dude's just as jacked as ryback, and way more entertaining to boot.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I don't understand why we need Rock/Cena II.

The first one wasn't that great, and when you have a guy that only comes back once a year, why give us the exact same thing again?

If Cena's character had been affected in any way by his defeat last year, I could understand them making the most of the retribution route, but he hasn't changed at all.

[Bad News Gertner]

Because it made a shitload of cash

[BILLO]

dont like Cena v Rock - Once in A Lifetime, twice in a row.

cmpunks reign was too good to be beaten by the great one part timer with not even his proper finisher.

im gonna go back to stealing these ppvs rather than paying for them.

thats my yearly negative post

[MoFo]

lol internet fans wouldn't be happy unless Rock was working house shows (that they don't buy tickets to) and being a way more expensive version of Barry Horowitz.

He wasn't exactly going to leave his cushty job making movies for millions to come back to a low brow form of entertainment only to be a big fucking loser. WWE were obviously gonna make him a decent offer career wise..

[Tommy Gunn]

The WWE have spoiled us by keeping the belt off Cena for over a year, I guess this whole thing was inevitable.

I still don't like it though when guys like Cena win the rumble, it should be used to elevate first-timers or returning superstars. Cena can get a title shot whenever without it.

[MoFo]

Hate that "part timers shouldnt be doing ______" slur

Taker is 20-0 at Mania and half of those have been while hes 'part time', why does he never get slagged off

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Personally, I'm fine with the Rock being champ. I just don't want to see him wrestle Cena at Mania again.

[Shisen Kopf]

Rasslin makes me very angry when they do things. How dare a company try and make $$$$ or ££££ for the Brits. It should be Punk vs Bryan in a submissions only double iron man match (120 mins)

[XL]

No issue with Rock being champ.
No interest in Rock v Cena II.
Underwhelmed by the end of the Rock/Punk match. The match should have gone longer from the restart. Punk should have kicked out of the elbow and a Rock Bottom before being beaten with a second Rock Bottom, just to give him some sort of rub.As it is, Punk looked a little weak.

[Bad News Gertner]

I'll pose this to people who are bitching about The Rock winning because new stars haven't been made.

With this thinking Ryback should have won at HIAC. Punk had pretty much done what he could with the belt, and Ryback winning could have set up The Rock vs Ryback at Royal Rumble which would have been a golden opportunity. Would you have been happy with that? Of course you wouldn't. You're just looking for reasons to bitch because your golden child lost his belt. Don't give me that bullshit.

[Innovator]

Steele said it best, everyone is over thinking it. When Rock said he had the match way back in July, we knew the outcome.

I loved the match, Punk looked great and dominated the majority of the match. He looked stronger there than he has in a while.

[Shadrick]

I'll pose this to people who are bitching about The Rock winning because new stars haven't been made.

With this thinking Ryback should have won at HIAC. Punk had pretty much done what he could with the belt, and Ryback winning could have set up The Rock vs Ryback at Royal Rumble which would have been a golden opportunity. Would you have been happy with that? Of course you wouldn't. You're just looking for reasons to bitch because your golden child lost his belt. Don't give me that bullshit.

This.


Steele said it best, everyone is over thinking it. When Rock said he had the match way back in July, we knew the outcome.

I loved the match, Punk looked great and dominated the majority of the match. He looked stronger there than he has in a while.

This too.

[Flash Funk]

No issue with Rock being champ.
No interest in Rock v Cena II.
Underwhelmed by the end of the Rock/Punk match. The match should have gone longer from the restart. Punk should have kicked out of the elbow and a Rock Bottom before being beaten with a second Rock Bottom, just to give him some sort of rub.As it is, Punk looked a little weak.

I could not agree with this more. I am all for "seeing where it goes" but it seems to be Cena/Rock II and I could not care less.

[wwe2222]

Thought the PPV and Rumble match itself were all great. Best Ive seen in years, but disappointed to see Cena win. By the end of the match I was rooting and thought Ryback was going to win as it would have done much more for him.

Dont mind seeing Rock as champ, his match vs Punk was the deciding factor in me ordering the PPV.

Also, I thought MIchael Cole was terrible. He mad alot of mistakes last night in calling the action. I havent been watching at all recently but I thought he was bad.

[Triple Naitch]

The announcing was really terrible last night. Wrong names, wrong moves, JBL and Cole stepping all over each other. Had no idea Lawler was even there.

[Ruien]

No issue with Rock being champ.
No interest in Rock v Cena II.
Underwhelmed by the end of the Rock/Punk match. The match should have gone longer from the restart. Punk should have kicked out of the elbow and a Rock Bottom before being beaten with a second Rock Bottom, just to give him some sort of rub.As it is, Punk looked a little weak.

He has looked weak for months now, not that it is a bad thing.

[Keith]

Punk was WWE Champion for 434 straight days. No way he comes off looking weak.

[Shadrick]

Ohhh. More mark talk about "Rock not being around enough so he shouldn't get the belt put on him." Cool.

[Shadrick]

He has looked weak for months now, not that it is a bad thing.

Looking "weak" and winning like a "heel" aren't the same thing.

Punk was WWE Champion for 434 straight days. No way he comes off looking weak.

You can't explain this to marks. Longest run in the modern era. And was beaten by an all-time great in a match where he came off looking like a million bucks. How does he look weak?

[St. Jimmy]

THIS:
http://i.imgur.com/Mln15rO.gif

[Shadrick]

Jimmy you are my fucking hero.

[Shisen Kopf]

Punk was WWE Champion for 434 straight days. No way he comes off looking weak.

Actually, he needed to have it for 435 days to really be considered great. Too bad :(

[Arrogance]

To the Punk marks, I just don't get it. He had a huge title run, he lost the title in dubious fashion, there's plenty of time for shit to happen before Mania. This is a typical butthurt PPV over-reaction. He's going to be in the main event picture at Mania...you don't give a guy a streak like that and push him out for Rock/Cena. Obviously The Rock was going to be heavily involved in Mania, he has dollar signs written all over him and one of the biggest names, if not the biggest name WWE has.

That being said, the end of the PPV was a letdown just because that I thought the match itself sucked the dong.

[screech]

Why is whine spelled with a g in the thread title?

[Shadrick]

Google "whinge," screech.

[Keith]

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[screech]

Google "whinge," screech.

Never realized that was a thing. Thought people were just misspelling it all the time.

Also never bothered to czech until just now.

[XL]

Looking "weak" and winning like a "heel" aren't the same thing.



You can't explain this to marks. Longest run in the modern era. And was beaten by an all-time great in a match where he came off looking like a million bucks. How does he look weak?

I agree that he looked great through most of the match, then, after the restart he put up little of a fight.

The Rock got tablefucked by The Shield, got the match restarted and put Punk away with ease. Honestly, it was some SuperCena-like stuff that would have 90% of the IWC up in arms if it were Cena.

[Poit]

Why is everyone talking about Rock/Cena? I figure last night is setting up Cena/Ziggler for the WHC at Mania.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ziggler isn't a big enough star for that

[Shadrick]

I agree that he looked great through most of the match, then, after the restart he put up little of a fight.

The Rock got tablefucked by The Shield, got the match restarted and put Punk away with ease. Honestly, it was some SuperCena-like stuff that would have 90% of the IWC up in arms if it were Cena.

When the match was restarted, Punk was on the offensive most of it....Rock hit a Spinebuster after a reversal from Punks LONG showboating and Peoples Elbow.

People would be mad if it was Cena because Cena does it ALL OF THE TIME.

[Kane Knight]

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And there's more....

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So which TPWWer is this? I refuse to believe that anyone could act like this and not be one of our wrestling forum mutants.

[Kane Knight]

I agree that he looked great through most of the match, then, after the restart he put up little of a fight.

The Rock got tablefucked by The Shield, got the match restarted and put Punk away with ease. Honestly, it was some SuperCena-like stuff that would have 90% of the IWC up in arms if it were Cena.

If Cena cured cancer, 90% of the ICW would be up in arms.

[Blitz]

If Cena cured cancer, 90% of the ICW would be up in arms.
OMG that would make cancer look so WEAK!

[Arrogance]

And there's more....

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So which TPWWer is this? I refuse to believe that anyone could act like this and not be one of our wrestling forum mutants.

Glorious.

[Emperor Smeat]

I like the idea or theory of why Punk lost to the People's Elbow due to the symbolism of crowd getting their "revenge" on Punk who turned his back on them. Rock needed the people in order to win because Punk kept proving for over a year no single person could do it by themselves.

Rock winning the title probably wouldn't have been as bad if it wasn't Cena winning or at least had the Rumble been last. Crowd was really deflated once Cena won and it carried over a bit to the Rock-Punk match.

Vince gets his Rock-Cena II matchup but it came at a pretty big cost in terms of what gets potentially tossed. No more potential Taker-Punk streak vs streak match, the idea of Ziggler winning the Rumble then cashing in the case at Mania, and Punk-Rock gets dropped quickly in order to hype up Cena-Rock and/or the Chamber more.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ok. ZIGGLER ISN'T A MAIN EVENTER! STOP!. He shouldn't headline a normal PPV. Let alone Wrestlemania. And you're mental if you think Rock vs Cena isn't the biggest money making match-up. Taker vs Punk without the title is fine because Taker's streak is what matters. We aren't the majority. We are a very small minority. How many fucking times does it need to be said! If the IWC booked the WWE they'd be out of business within a year.

[Bad News Gertner]

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St. Jimmy needs to shave

[CSL]

jesus that guy's tits

[Keith]

And there's more....

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So which TPWWer is this? I refuse to believe that anyone could act like this and not be one of our wrestling forum mutants.

You need to go see his dad's channel, it's called "Angry Grandpa".

[Shisen Kopf]

Ok. ZIGGLER ISN'T A MAIN EVENTER! STOP!. He shouldn't headline a normal PPV. Let alone Wrestlemania. And you're mental if you think Rock vs Cena isn't the biggest money making match-up. Taker vs Punk without the title is fine because Taker's streak is what matters. We aren't the majority. We are a very small minority. How many fucking times does it need to be said! If the IWC booked the WWE they'd be out of business within a year.

If I booked rasslin, it would rule. Ric Flair vs Bushwhacker Luke vs Ryback main event Rasslemania. That's good.

[XCaliber]

Bo Rotundo is a piece of crap! My apologies to the Rotundo family... except Bo Rotundo. If anyone has an animated gif of him getting Bull Hammered it shall become my new avatar me thinks.

[James Steele]

That hat to be Xero since he lost all that weight and started getting pussy.

[The Rogerer]

You need to go see his dad's channel, it's called "Angry Grandpa".Oh right, it's just the I'M ON YOUTUBE PRETENDING TO SHOUT market. It does work and gets millions of views, though.

[Shisen Kopf]

I hate people who try to become YouTube celebrities. The best YouTube celebs are like Owenbrown's brother the numa numa guy where it just happens and isn't forced.

[Keith]

Oh right, it's just the I'M ON YOUTUBE PRETENDING TO SHOUT market. It does work and gets millions of views, though.

They get paid for that shit, though.

[mike adamle]

Thinking back on it now, CM Punk's heel turn has kind of sucked.

[James Diesel]

So has yours

[Bad News Gertner]

It's been very bad. Punk is much better as a face.

[Shadrick]

It's been very bad. Punk is much better as a face.

Why haven't you changed your title to "Pulse of the WWE" yet?

[Tazz Dan]

Because it hasn't FUCKING DIED yet.

[Shadrick]

ooooo okay

[Bad News Gertner]

Tazz Dan knows.

[Rammsteinmad]

So the "once in a lifetime" match is likely to happen a second time, and the two participants in the "end of an era" match, are, well... still likely to be booked on the show.

The only thing Wrestlemania 28 didn't lie about was CM Punk and Chris Jericho's match being about the best the in world.

[Heisenberg]

So the "once in a lifetime" match is likely to happen a second time, and the two participants in the "end of an era" match, are, well... still likely to be booked on the show.

The only thing Wrestlemania 28 didn't lie about was CM Punk and Chris Jericho's match being about the best the in world.

That "Once in a Lifetime" spiel was just WWE trying to get fans into bed with Wrestlemania and buy into it. Then when WWE has blew their load via completion of WM buys and shit, they wake up the next day, put their pants on @ RAW and totally forget shit happened and start buttering the fans up again.

[Savio]

I'm still hoping there can be a triple threat

[whiteyford]

Once in a lifetime without the belt, technicalities son!

[Kane Knight]

So the "once in a lifetime" match is likely to happen a second time, and the two participants in the "end of an era" match, are, well... still likely to be booked on the show.

The only thing Wrestlemania 28 didn't lie about was CM Punk and Chris Jericho's match being about the best the in world.

I'm beginning to think WWE is unscrupulous in its promotion.

[Classy and Gassy]

It was once in a lifetime for those who died in between Mania 28 and 29

[Maluco]

Still think they need to do Cena/Rock again as there is nothing else bigger. Punk with either of those guys just doesn't compare. He is not a big enough star.

Just sucks that WWE has a year to try to mix up the card and get a few new guys mixing it up, and they failed totally. The top 5 matches will be the same names again and the real stars are still the part time guys. It's Mania now though so they need to go with the biggest matches possible. Has to be Cena/Rock...

[mike adamle]

Still think they need to do Cena/Rock again as there is nothing else bigger. Punk with either of those guys just doesn't compare. He is not a big enough star.

Just sucks that WWE has a year to try to mix up the card and get a few new guys mixing it up, and they failed totally. The top 5 matches will be the same names again and the real stars are still the part time guys. It's Mania now though so they need to go with the biggest matches possible. Has to be Cena/Rock...

Cena-Lesnar and Lesnar-Rock are pretty big.

Anyways. WrestleMania is potentially gonna be filled with rematches from WrestleMania and SummerSlam.

The Rock vs. John Cena- Happened at WrestleMania 28
Brock Lesnar vs. HHH- Happened at SummerSlam
Possibly Chris Jericho vs. Dolph Ziggler- Happened at SummerSlam
Possibly Daniel Bryan vs. Kane- Happened at SummerSlam

[Tazz Dan]

Hopefully people with get the gist of this thread soon......

Complain about the new title belt in here!

[Heisenberg]

Okay, a complaint...old belt got off too easy, was used as a foreign object to hit the man that was responsible for it's existence.

Someone should have tossed it through a table or into the guardrails.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

JBL should have came out and blew it up like Cena's US title again.

[James Steele]

JBL should have came out and blew it up like Cena's US title again.

I'd have marked out. Wish JBL was on commentary tonight. He would have probably mentioned it.

[XL]

I'm sure he'll get chance to say that when they recap it 4 times on SmackDown

[XL]

Whilst I'm here:

Pretty fed up of all the talk of "drawing power"/ratings, etc. Seems we try to factor it in to every discussion.

Who goes in as the headliner at the HOF?
Should Rock/Cena headline Mania again?
Was Punk a good champion?

In no other industry/medium do we equate how much money a guy drew to the quality of their work. Fuck, if we did, we better get Justin Bieber inducted into a Hall Of Fame somewhere.

When did we stop judging wrestling as a TV show, in favour of talking through the ins and outs of the business/money side of things?

[James Steele]

Wrestling is like no other type of TV show or form of entertainment. The argument can also be easily made that can something be all that good if nobody liked it/watched it?

[Rammsteinmad]

Coz we're not ten-year-old marks anymore. :(

[Tommy Gunn]

Damien Sandow should be in the IC title hunt, as soon as Wade is finished with it, of course.

Antonio Cesaro better keep the U.S title for most of 2013, just until he's ready for world title level matches.

Ryback needs to win ALL of his PPV matches for the rest of 2013, to make up for the crappy booking he's suffered since he went from squash matches to WWE title challenger over night.

Brad Maddox also needs a bigger TV role, hopefully this new assistant to the managing director thing is the answer, but it was hilarious when he turned up on Main Event / Smackdown to do commentary a few weeks back.

[James Steele]

What crappy booking has Ryback been through? He still is a fucking animal and he has been in a months long feud with a legitimate force. Should he go back to jobber squashes?

[Heisenberg]

Unless Vince fell out of love for big devastating customer wrestlers, Ryback should be A-OK.

[#1-norm-fan]

What crappy booking has Ryback been through? He still is a fucking animal and he has been in a months long feud with a legitimate force. Should he go back to jobber squashes?

He's jobbed on PPV 5 months straight and he's been the Shield's bitch. That "animal" aura and the momentum he had when the crowd was going nuts watching him take out Punk has gone on a ridiculous downward spiral.

[Tazz Dan]

:lol:

[#1-norm-fan]

Unless Vince fell out of love for big devastating customer wrestlers, Ryback should be A-OK.

I'm sure Vince is in love with the guy still. Vince has been in love with a lot of big guys over recent years but failed to make them megastars though. I don't doubt the want to make him a star. I doubt his ability to.

[XL]

Pretty sure the crowd were chanting Feed Me More when Ryback was on the apron whilst the company's top guy was in the ring. He's still very, very much over.

Also, surely this is just part of the story, the payoff off which will be Ryback overcoming The Shield.

[Tazz Dan]

How would you have booked him? Have him won the title in either match against punk? Single handedly destroy the shield in either match while making two already legitimately built superstars look weak? Or win the rumble? Explain how you would have booked him better in detail, just to back up your claims of him being booked badly.

[XL]

I'm infinitely more interested in Ryback than I was when he was the bullet-proof, jobber-destroying machine.

[#1-norm-fan]

Pretty sure the crowd were chanting Feed Me More when Ryback was on the apron whilst the company's top guy was in the ring. He's still very, very much over.

Also, surely this is just part of the story, the payoff off which will be Ryback overcoming The Shield.

I'd Ryback to say "fuck partners" and beat The Shield in a gauntlet match at WrestleMania.

Everyone here would complain that they've fucked The Shield up... but fuck 'em. Ryback is a star of the future. The Shield is not.

[Tazz Dan]

I'd Ryback to say "fuck partners" and beat The Shield in a gauntlet match at WrestleMania.

Everyone here would complain that they've fucked The Shield up... but fuck 'em. Ryback is a star of the future. The Shield is not.

Duuuuude. Not even going to discuss this with you any further. Please refrain from replying to my previous posts, you are clearly delusional.

[XL]

So you'd cut the legs off of a genuinely hot faction in favour of Ryback?

Seems it just comes down to personal preference and in doing that the argument has no more substance than the guys who bitch about Punk being "jobbed out" or dropping the title to The Rock.

[#1-norm-fan]

How would you have booked him? Have him won the title in either match against punk? Single handedly destroy the shield in either match while making two already legitimately built superstars look weak? Or win the rumble? Explain how you would have booked him better in detail, just to back up your claims of him being booked badly.

You say all that as if I'd have put him in those exact matches to begin with...

The end of the Punk Hell in a Cell was perfect. I definitely wouldn't have had The Shield constantly make Ryback their bitch for months on end and I sure as hell wouldn't have given his first clean pinfall loss to Seth fucking Rollins. lol

And how exactly would Ryback beating The Shield at, say, Elimination Chamber, make Cena and Sheamus look weak???

[#1-norm-fan]

Duuuuude. Not even going to discuss this with you any further. Please refrain from replying to my previous posts, you are clearly delusional.

I'm sorry. You need St. Jimmy in here to post some Tyler Black matches to show us all that he's clearly the future. lol

[CSL]

Ryback is a star of the future. The Shield is not.

that's a pretty short-sighted statement

[XL]

You say all that as if I'd have put him in those exact matches to begin with...

The end of the Punk Hell in a Cell was perfect. I definitely wouldn't have had The Shield constantly make Ryback their bitch for months on end and I sure as hell wouldn't have given his first clean pinfall loss to Seth fucking Rollins. lol

And how exactly would Ryback beating The Shield at, say, Elimination Chamber, make Cena and Sheamus look weak???

Oh come on now!

[#1-norm-fan]

that's a pretty short-sighted statement

I see what you're saying.

But seriously... fuck 2/3 of The Shield.

Let Ambrose look like he may be able to take him down on his own but ultimately fail. The other two can go straight to hell.

[Innovator]

Holy shit. Someone save that quote and let's revisit this when Ambrose and Reigns are running the show.

[Tazz Dan]

I'm sorry. You need St. Jimmy in here to post some Tyler Black matches to show us all that he's clearly the future. lol

Why can't there be more than one 'future'. It's not a bad thing to build multiple stars you know...

[#1-norm-fan]

Can you really see Seth Rollins being the face of the company at some point?

[Tazz Dan]

Also,

How would you have booked him? Have him won the title in either match against punk? Single handedly destroy the shield in either match while making two already legitimately built superstars look weak? Or win the rumble? Explain how you would have booked him better in detail, just to back up your claims of him being booked badly.

All you're doing is making the same statement over and over without saying how they could have done it better.

[Tazz Dan]

Can you really see Seth Rollins being the face of the company at some point?

Why not? Jeff Hardy was. The Miz was. Rey Mysterio was. Chris Jericho was. CM Punk is.

Just to name a few.

[CSL]

I see what you're saying.

But seriously... fuck 2/3 of The Shield.

Let Ambrose look like he may be able to take him down on his own but ultimately fail. The other two can go straight to hell.

in terms of the other two, I'd almost put money on Rollins being the "biggest star" of the whole group. I've said it a million times since he was signed to a developmental deal that he'll blow up like Jeff Hardy if/when he finds his niche. Reigns might as well have been made in a WWE Factory in terms of his size and look and is related to wrestling royalty so he'll get a million opportunities (should he need them) his current role doesn't really play to his strengths outside of "GAHHH *power move*"

[#1-norm-fan]

Book him to look like a monster against The Shield... have him in a program with someone else like Show and Ziggler and not make him look like a bitch and come out on top... Keep him winning matches to keep that momentum up. Don't wait til he's on a roll and decide to use that to start putting someone else over. It's ridiculous.

[Tazz Dan]

Reigns might as well have been made in a WWE Factory in terms of his size and look and is related to wrestling royalty so he'll get a million opportunities (should he need them) his current role doesn't really play to his strengths outside of "GAHHH *power move*"

Kinda like Ryback

[#1-norm-fan]

Why not? Jeff Hardy was. The Miz was. Rey Mysterio was. Chris Jericho was. CM Punk is.

Just to name a few.

I said "the face of the company".

[Tazz Dan]

I said "the face of the company".

You honestly believe that Ryback can be the Hulk Hogan or John Cena of WWE? Like legit believe that?

[#1-norm-fan]

in terms of the other two, I'd almost put money on Rollins being the "biggest star" of the whole group. I've said it a million times since he was signed to a developmental deal that he'll blow up like Jeff Hardy if/when he finds his niche. Reigns might as well have been made in a WWE Factory in terms of his size and look and is related to wrestling royalty so he'll get a million opportunities (should he need them) his current role doesn't really play to his strengths outside of "GAHHH *power move*"

I actually think Reigns' current role is fitting for him. He looks like a guy who would audition for the role of a bodyguard in a movie and get the part before he even opens his mouth. Him as the muscle of the group is fitting. I just don't see that as a role that's gonna catapult a guy to stardom and I don't see him working out on his own.

[CSL]

Kinda like Ryback

outside of the "doesn't play to his strengths" part, yah, he's been given a million chances/placed in a bunch of advantageous situations to truly look like a star. If The Rock or Steve Austin had been given the same treatment from day 1, they'd have been on top already by this point in Ryback's career.

[CSL]

I actually think Reigns' current role is fitting for him. He looks like a guy who would audition for the role of a bodyguard in a movie and get the part before he even opens his mouth. Him as the muscle of the group is fitting. I just don't see that as a role that's gonna catapult a guy to stardom and I don't see him working out on his own.

oh he absolutely fits the role well, I just mean in terms of we probably aren't going to know if he's anything special/going to make some real money or not until he gets a chance to shine on his own

[Tazz Dan]

outside of the "doesn't play to his strengths" part, yah, he's been given a million chances/placed in a bunch of advantageous situations to truly look like a star. If The Rock or Steve Austin had been given the same treatment from day 1, they'd have been on top already by this point in Ryback's career.


:y:

[#1-norm-fan]

You honestly believe that Ryback can be the Hulk Hogan or John Cena of WWE? Like legit believe that?

lol Is this six months ago again? Do we need to go rehash the old Ryback threads or are we gonna just have this discussion again?

[Tazz Dan]

lol Is this six months ago again? Do we need to go rehash the old Ryback threads or are we gonna just have this discussion again?

It was a yes or no question, no discussion needed, not that hard to answer

[#1-norm-fan]

outside of the "doesn't play to his strengths" part, yah, he's been given a million chances/placed in a bunch of advantageous situations to truly look like a star.

... Wait, what?

[CSL]

WWE have played to Ryback's strengths i.e he looks like a machine and he has been placed in a lot of situations meant to accentuate and capitalize on that.

[#1-norm-fan]

It was a yes or no question, no discussion needed, not that hard to answer

Yes. The man has the fucking it factor. As is evidence by the crowd reactions he was getting during the Punk feud. People were pumped to see him as the next big thing. The thought that he might actually win the title and there could be the birth of a new star (though not pulling the trigger was the right move) was refreshing.

You wouldn't have gotten nearly the same reaction if Seth Rollins or Luther Reigns had debuted, squashed guys for a few months and then faced off with Punk. There's a reason for that.

[#1-norm-fan]

WWE have played to Ryback's strengths i.e he looks like a machine and he has been placed in a lot of situations meant to accentuate and capitalize on that.

He has. He's also been placed in situations that use his his strengths to put other people over instead.

[CSL]

Yes. The man has the fucking it factor. As is evidence by the crowd reactions he was getting during the Punk feud.

I'd personally say this has a hell of a lot more to do with people wanting to see Punk get killed. Big difference. Check the crowds reaction at the PPV just gone. If you're going to claim that's a result of the way he's been booked recently, check Orton's reaction on the same show. There's a difference between it factor and WWE trying really hard to get people to buy into somebody as the next huge star. This isn't to say Ryback can't be that guy. I just seems he hasn't worked out quite as they hoped.

[Tazz Dan]

Yes.

Thank you. That is all that I wanted.

[Tazz Dan]

Like seriously, that was it. None of that other shit.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait... does it make you angry to hear that? Is that it?

[Tazz Dan]

Wait... does it make you angry to hear that? Is that it?

Fuck me :lol:

Is that your go to line or something?

I asked a question and wanted a yes or no answer, not a fucking novel on why. Sometimes simplicity is fine dear.

[#1-norm-fan]

Hmm... I feel like you might get angry when someone discusses why Ryback is megastar material.

P.S. I love you, Tazz Dan.

[Tommy Gunn]

I would have Ryback remain a lone wolf, not team with shit eating baby faces.

Yeah I'm kind of being a mark about all of this, but I think after getting tossed out of the rumble match, Ryback should be going for the IC title against Barrett, and then maybe re-evaluated for a WWE title hunt in the fall when business is slooooow.

[mike adamle]

He's jobbed on PPV 5 months straight and he's been the Shield's bitch. That "animal" aura and the momentum he had when the crowd was going nuts watching him take out Punk has gone on a ridiculous downward spiral.

You're turning into a more annoying poster than me. I posted a similar response in another thread and you ignored it.

He was pinned at EC after being manhandled by The Shield who are easily the best trio we've seen in a while. Big deal, it didn't hurt him.
He was the last one eliminated in the Royal Rumble match by the face of the WWE, John Cena. Makes him look like a fucking star.
He was the only one left moving when The Shield got the pin in the 6 MAN TAG TLC MATCH at TLC. He looked like a beast after throwing Rollins through those tables.
He was in the main event (not even pinned) with the 2 biggest names WWE has full time. And was put out by a debuting Shield who have still yet to lose. Not making him look bad at all.
And finally, at Hell In A Cell he was low blowed and fast counted. And got right back up and destroyed Punk.

You're a moron. Because I proved my point am I "angry?" Since that's all you can respond with?

[Fignuts]

Like Mark Henry, Ryback seems to have a specific facial expression etched on his face at all times. But unlike Henry's impending doom facial expression, Ryback always looks like someone has just shoved a gerbil up his ass.

[Tazz Dan]

You're turning into a more annoying poster than me.

Woah woah woah. Whilst I happen to agree with you on this topic, lets not go that far.

[XL]

They tried to do too much, too soon with Ryback.

That's where the Goldberg comparison fails. Goldberg's push was for more gradual; taking out jobbers, working through the lower card, picking up a Midcard title before taking the top prize. Ryback went from taking out jobbers to competing for the WWE Title. It was too early/not the right time for him to win the belt so he had to lose, which is/was unfortunate but ultimately unavoidable.

[#1-norm-fan]

You're turning into a more annoying poster than me.

I'm working on it. Give me another month or two. It takes a lot of hard work.

[Shadrick]

Fan is trolling lol

[#1-norm-fan]

It's mike adamle. Let me have some fun, Goddammit.

[Tazz Dan]

Stop being a #1-wwe-fan mark Shadrick

[Shadrick]

*sniffles*

[Shisen Kopf]

I'm starting to think that Zeb Colter maybe using me as inspiration. I've been a USA #1 patriot for a long time. I wonder who he posts here as?

[CSL]

J Dogg Funk

[Bad News Gertner]

that's a pretty short-sighted statement

It's not. Ryback has more star potential than those three combined

[MoFo]

Like Mark Henry, Ryback seems to have a specific facial expression etched on his face at all times. But unlike Henry's impending doom facial expression, Ryback always looks like someone has just shoved a gerbil up his ass.


Richardgereback

[Savio]

Rematchmania

[Lock Jaw]

Dolph Ziggler has huge steam going for him with AJ and Big E joining him, which I thought was gonna lead to an imminent World Title run where heel retains title due to his "posse" most of the time.

Instead, he is being jobbed out, and the trio which had so much heat behind them at one point, are essentially Team Rocket and at the end of each episode they go blasting off again.

[Fignuts]

Anyone who doesn't like John Cena is a faggot.

[#1-norm-fan]

Anyone who doesn't like John Cena is a faggot.

Fact

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Don't know. I might rather like being called a faggot than a John Cena fan.

[James Steele]

I like John Cena just fine, but Rock/Cena II is about as predictable as Brock Lesnar/Hardcore Holly from Royal Rumble 2004. The match itself could be good, but going off of last year my hopes aren't high.

[Bad News Gertner]

So was every HHH match from 2001-2004 yet you jizz all over his horribly over-rated ass.

[CSL]

I like John Cena just fine, but Rock/Cena II is about as predictable as Brock Lesnar/Hardcore Holly from Royal Rumble 2004.

well yeah but so was Cena/Punk last night

[#1-norm-fan]

Don't forget both HHH-Taker matches.

[James Steele]

The matches were so good you forgot that you were a smark. I thought Punk had a chance to win, and the way the match went I completely went into mark-mode. Just like HBK/Taker and HHH/Taker sucked you in and made you forget how much of an apathetic smark you are.

Rock/Cena wasn't all that good of a match and the finish is obvious this year and I don't think the match will be good enough to make me forget that. I hope I'm wrong and they steal the show, but I seriously doubt it.

[mike adamle]

Can't wait for some fresh match ups at WrestleMania XXX.

[Shadrick]

Can't wait for some fresh match ups at WrestleMania XXX.

Maybe we'll get to see Rock/Cena finally.

[Shisen Kopf]

Val Venis better return for WMXXX

[DAMN iNATOR]

Val Venis better return for WMXXX

and The Godfather and his Hos.

[Shadrick]

I wish in the rumble, Godfather came out with no hos. Got booed, then pointed to the entrance with about 15 hoes comin out. Man.

[stultiloquy]

Feels like I'm the only person in the world who didn't care for the HHH/Taker Wrestlemania match.

After it was over I felt like it just made Undertaker look weak despite him winning, and the whole thing just seemed like HHH riding Shawn's coattails again.

[Tazz Dan]

Yeah. I'm pretty certain you're the only person who saw things that way.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

which makes you unique!

[mike adamle]

and gay

[XL]

Here to whinge that WWE still haven't given me the DiBiase/McGillicutty team I desire!

[James Steele]

...and a fucking piece of shit.

[James Steele]

Why must you fuck everything up for me, XL?

[Lock Jaw]

Feels like I'm the only person in the world who didn't care for the HHH/Taker Wrestlemania match.

After it was over I felt like it just made Undertaker look weak despite him winning, and the whole thing just seemed like HHH riding Shawn's coattails again.

I did not care for the Mania 27 one.

[Lock Jaw]

Wade Barrett is the Intercontinental Champion. Why is he a freaking jobber?

Seriously can't think of the last time he has won. Since before Royal Rumble probably.

[Tazz Dan]

He did get his revenge on Bo Dallas didn't he?

[Lock Jaw]

I think he beat him up backstage, but he never beat him in a match.

[CSL]

I bet he jobs in this film as well

[Lock Jaw]

"February 11, 2013 – RAW: WWE Intercontinental champion Wade Barrett defeated Kofi Kingston in a non-title match."

Ok, so maybe not so long since his last win. Just feels like ages.

[CSL]

March 5th 2013 - Dead Man Down - Colin Farrell defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Wade Barrett via something particularly gruesome and cool but not quite gruesome and cool enough to be used on the main bad guy in the film because he's just one of the henchman in a non-title match

[XL]

They've been doing this secondary title holder losing to Main Event guys a lot lately with both Barrett and Cesaro.

[James Steele]

I guess to make them look like they are almost on the level of the World Champions but not quite?

[XL]

Yes.

[James Steele]

Fuck you, XL. :kiss:

[dronepool]

Randy Orton, Big Show and Sheamus are 3 boring B list "maineventers".

[Bad News Gertner]

Big Show is the goods and Orton is the second most over in the company.

[drave]

Orton needs to go back to the Legend Killer gimmick or something close to it. Face Orton is boring as fuck. Technically, he is no different than Cena with the 5 moves of doom:

1) Start convulsing like he thinks he is a real viper
2) Punch, Punch, Punch
3) Irish whip, powerslam (which looks great)
4) 2nd rope spiked DDT
5) RKO

[XL]

You forgot that weird backbreaker he does.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Pretty much every wrestler only has about 5 moves in TV matches. They expand their movesets on PPV all the time.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Chris Benoit who is apparently one of the best technical wrestlers ever had 5 moves and 3 of them were a knife edge chop.

[Shisen Kopf]

Big Show is the goods and Orton is the second most over in the company.

Most over like rover is Bret Hart when he shows up on Raw once in a while.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm still holding hope that the predictable finish to Cena/Rock with Cena beating Rock and the two having a tender moment in the ring together happens, but then The Shield attack both guys, lay them out and have their "WrestleMania moment." Best way to end the show and create a Shield buzz.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, and Randy Orton vs. Sheamus vs. Big Show at Extreme Rules once they all fall apart and want to kill each other.

[#1-norm-fan]

The Shield attacking Rock and Cena is certainly not the best way to end a WrestleMania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fuck you, yes it would be. Believe in The Shield.