Gash or Gold - CSL Judges Your Favorite Wrestling Moments, Matches, and Memories!

[James Steele]

It is quite simple. Post in this thread some of your favorite matches, moments, and memories. TPWW Icon, CSL, will then judge those moments and give them a rating of either GASH (aka dogshit) or GOLD (aka Triple H's Indian Deathlock).

I'll begin:

Moments
Triple H returns at MSG - 2001
Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

Matches
Triple H vs Ric Flair (Late 2005 feud)

Memories
Crowbar winning the WCW Hardcore Championship (2000?)

[Anybody Thrilla]

Is CSL really on board for this? If so, I'm totally in.

[James Steele]

Yes. CSL is a man of the people and will pleasure us with his opinions.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Match
Shawn Michaels v. The British Bulldog for the Intercontinental title @ SNME in 1992

Moment
Hawk falls off the Titan Tron

Memory
Earthquake kills Damien

[Hanso Amore]

I dont understand what is different in Moment and Memory...

[MoFo]

Match - Elimination Chamber, Summerslam 2003 (Goldberg Smash!)

Moment - Jake Roberts returns to Raw (7:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthYkUWseEI

[VSG]

lol CSL will never judge everything posted.

[James Steele]

I dont understand what is different in Moment and Memory...

Moment - Something you vividly remember and the time/place
Memory - Something you remember, but it might be a bit foggy or you're off on specific date/time/event/etc.

[James Steele]

Plus, it is good alliteration.

[CSL]

I WILL DO IT

[CSL]

lol CSL will never judge everything posted.

going to do it now just to PROVE YOU WRONG

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5484/chris20benoitft1.jpg

[James Steele]

In honor of CSL, I present to you the official theme song of this thread:

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[CSL]

Triple H returns at MSG - 2001

GOLD. Homeboy was the best wrestler on earth from pretty much the moment Austin had his surgery onwards, probably hasn't been a more credible heel world champion since with mayyybe the exception of Brock. Deserved every bit of the reaction he got.

Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

G-onna need a video of this. If not, it's Flair cutting a promo so it's probably GOLD.

Triple H vs Ric Flair (Late 2005 feud)

only one I remember off the top of my head is the PPV cage match. In which case it's gotta be GOLD. Always enjoyed Triple H and Flair against each other, simple matches with simple stories that pull the crowd in, perfect timing, Trips always going out of his way to make Flair look good and Flair being Flair. Flair went over clean and decisively (by cage match standards) in the one I'm thinking of too, which was a nice surprise.

Crowbar winning the WCW Hardcore Championship

don't recall the specific match/finish etc, my brain has probably blocked a lot of WCW from around that time out as self preservation. But Crowbar was meh, Reno was meh (except Roll the Dice, which was immense) so I guess I'd have to go GASH.

[James Steele]

God, I loved this whole one-night storyline. Austin forced HHH to defend the title against a former world champion of his choice. HHH picks Flair and expects him to lay down. They have HBK and others talk to him. Flair then cuts this epic promo on HHH saying he is getting Flair's best tonight. Then, they put on an awesome match where I seriously thought Ric Flair was going to once again become the heavyweight champion of the world.

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[James Steele]

Seriously, Jim Ross being at his best and the storyline and the emotion of the whole night gets my heart racing just thinking about it. I still think they probably should have given Flair the belt that night.

[mike adamle]

Thought the cage match was awesome and that the last man standing match the next ppv was a 5 star classic

[CSL]

Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

I enjoyed the promo. It's not quite "classic Flair" but it's better than most. GOLD.


Shawn Michaels v. The British Bulldog for the Intercontinental title @ SNME in 1992

beyond GOLD. Was a huge HBK fan from almost day one (obligatory "worship Hogan" phase)/started to really favour the heels just as HBK was getting that initial singles push. Remember reading about it in WWF magazine whilst standing in a shop and being happy as a bastard. "Enjoyable match", creative finish that advanced/didn't harm either guy.

Hawk falls off the Titan Tron

probably have to say GASH. As daft and sometimes entertaining the "Hawk being pissed up" stuff was, after seeing the Road Warriors doc piece and knowing he was going through a really shit time whilst doing it/it being a bit too close to home and then his death being an indirect result of his "demons", it's just a bit ugly. That and Droz was a bit shit.

Earthquake kills Damien

what's not to love about this? Ridiculous looking 400lb heel fatty in an old school-cut singlet (and no kneepads) does that daft "Earthquake bouncing around the ring" gimmick before squashing a blokes pet snake whilst everybody plays it dead serious. And the kids ate it all up. It's glorious, it's the original "Bossman feeds Al Snow his dog". GOLD.

[Innovator]

WE'RE IN GREENVILLE SOUTH CAROLINA AND RIC FLAIRS GOT HIS GAME FACE ON

[Theo Dious]

Moment
Marty Janetty attempts to escape Shawn Michaels by diving through the barbershop window

Match
Ric Flair vs Mr Perfect - Monday Night Raw Loser Retires

Memory
Earthquake sits on Hulk Hogan, sidelining him for months and causing him to consider retirement

[Bad News Gertner]

Pretty much anything HHH related is dogshit

[Hanso Amore]

Match - Sting and Flair vs Muta and Funk in the Thunderdome - Still my all time favorite.

Moment - Buff Bagwell punches another in a long line of fake stings, only to have it be real sting. He then Drops Bagwell, takes of the Sting mask to reveal face paint, and clears the ring.

Memory - Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Billy Gunn vs The Rock

[whiteyford]

Memory - Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.


It's on the ECW - Extreme Evolution dvd

Eliminators VS Terry Gordy & Steve Williams.
(This was possibly the weakest match on this DVD but it has it's moments as Saturn does a great elbow drop from a board near the ceiling used in scaffold matches.Also Dr Death Steve Williams gets powerbombed on the concrete floor.The match is from High Incident in October 1996)***

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Legit interested in CSL'a view on Daniel Bryan's first year in WWE.

[CSL]

Elimination Chamber, Summerslam 2003 (Goldberg Smash!)

solid GOLD right here. First time Goldberg was really booked to his strengths on a big scale in WWE and it showed, built towards his entry into the match and when it happened, the crowd ate up every second of it. Few guys ever have been capable of drawing that kind of reaction by doing a few moves and looking at the crowd and old Billy showed he was one of them right here. Gotta credit Triple H and Flair as well, the cowardly heel stuff and Goldberg getting them anyway was the perfect payoff. They made a mistake not putting the belt on him however, was definitely "the right time" as opposed to a month later.

Jake Roberts returns to Raw (7:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthYkUWseEI

have to say GOLD just for the spectacle of Jake being on TV, the reaction he got, how much it clearly meant to him etc. Unfortunately he looked like he'd been dragged to the show backwards, promo wasn't up to "Jake standards" but I'd rather it have happened than not, it accomplished what is was supposed to.

[The Condor]

match: 10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.

Memory: Bret Harts profanity laced tirade on Raw after losing the title to Sid.

Moment: Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

Not a fan of Bret Hart but for whatever reason he is included in 2 of these

[Hanso Amore]

It's on the ECW - Extreme Evolution dvd

Eliminators VS Terry Gordy & Steve Williams.
(This was possibly the weakest match on this DVD but it has it's moments as Saturn does a great elbow drop from a board near the ceiling used in scaffold matches.Also Dr Death Steve Williams gets powerbombed on the concrete floor.The match is from High Incident in October 1996)***

Thats sounds right. Its often in many highlight films on ECW but just that moment sticks with me, nothing else about the match.

[Anybody Thrilla]

match: 10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.

Memory: Bret Harts profanity laced tirade on Raw after losing the title to Sid.

Moment: Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

Not a fan of Bret Hart but for whatever reason he is included in 2 of these

Was it Marc Mero or Scott Putski?

[CSL]

Marty Janetty attempts to escape Shawn Michaels by diving through the barbershop window

GOLD. Amazing launch pad for Michaels as a singles guy (and who knows, could have been great for Marty if he wasn't so "Marty") the fact people still reference and talk about it 21 years later says it all.


Ric Flair vs Mr Perfect - Monday Night Raw Loser Retires

I was never as big of a fan of this as anybody else. Love Flair, love Perfect, just feels like a really underwhelming exit for Flair and nothing was built on it for Hennig. But it was a different time back then, no PPV really close enough to build towards (I believe Flair wanted out asap so Mania was probs out of the question) The competitors and match itself definitely place it on the side of GOLD but it's not as overwhelming as anything involving these two should be.

Earthquake sits on Hulk Hogan, sidelining him for months and causing him to consider retirement

GOLD. If only for Hogan's twitchy leg sell. Not to mention the kids eating it up and those poor bastards that sent Hogan get well cards still receiving WWE catalogues in the mail. And the blow off match at Summerslam provided us with Hogan tearing Earl Hebner's shirt to pieces mid-match. That was different.

[The Condor]

Was it Marc Mero or Scott Putski?

You may be right. For some reason I was thinking it was the "Wildman"

[Anybody Thrilla]

I believe it was Scott Putski in a match with Brian Christopher at some PPV somewhere. In Your House or something.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ground Zero, turns out. The second clip here is a BRIEF shot of it.

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[The Condor]

That's it! Thanks, ABT. Still cringeworthy

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah, that was gross.

[Bad News Gertner]

Match: RVD and Sabu vs Hayabusa and Jinsei Shinzaki at Heatwave. Fav match ever.

Moment: Heyman tells A.P.A that only Simmons is fired and Bradshaw isn't. JBL begins.

Memory: anybody remember an angle where Hugh Morrus's dad would all of a sudden walk down the aisle confused during his matches?

[Skippord]

I don't remember it, but I can't think of a reason that WCW would be like "It'd be rad if Hugh Morrus' dad walked in the aisle looking confused during his matches". Clearly that is what killed WCW

[Bad News Gertner]

It was very very weird. As usual, nothing came of it.

[Skippord]

I do wonder what Hugh Morrus' dad looks like now, which may have been their endgame I guess.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ok I wasn't making this up:
During a match this Hennig some old guy walks down the ramp in a hospital gown. Morrus calls him "pops" and escorts him back up the ramp. Morrus slams Hennig and his "pops" comes back down and Morrus goes back outside the ring. Hennig wins with a Hennigplex.
Pops comes down to console Morrus and mimics him.

This occured on the December 20th 1999 Nitro so this has Russo's fingers all over it.

[Skippord]

that seems like an Ed Ferrera idea to me

[Emperor Smeat]

Match
HBK vs Taker II - HBK's retirement match at Mania 26

Moment
Jericho's "It Never Happened" title victory over Triple H on RAW in 2000

Memory
Mr Perfect showing off his perfect skills by catching a football he threw.

[Seth82]

Match
Kenta Kobashi and Tsuyoshi Kikuchi vs. Doug Furnas and Dan Kroffat from May 25th 1992


-Wrestling Observer's Match of the Year for 1992. It's a favorite of mine as well.

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Moment
Ric Flair winning the 1992 Royal Rumble & Post Match Speech

Memory
The 4 Horsemen break Dusty Rhodes' arm
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[#1-norm-fan]

http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/pictures/1999123m001.jpg

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Seth82 vs The 21st Century

[Black Widow]

Match
Shane v. Angle Street Fight 2001

Moment
Jeff Swanton off the Titan Tron

Memory
Steph Turns On Vince

[Shisen Kopf]

Match
Shane v. Angle Street Fight 2001

Moment
Jeff Swanton off the Titan Tron

Memory
Steph Turns On Vince


I woulda thought you woulda said when The Hardy Boy'z rassled the Dudley Boy'z and Edge and Christian at Rasslemania.

[VSG]

going to do it now just to PROVE YOU WRONG

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5484/chris20benoitft1.jpg

Slacking off so soon? How dare you actually spend the weekend doing other stuff!

[Big Vic]

Match
RVD vs Big Show - "Philly Screwjob" RVD loses the ECW title

Moment
Nexus Dismantles the ring

Memory
Daniel Bryan calls out Michael Cole.

[CSL]

Sting and Flair vs Muta and Funk in the Thunderdome - Still my all time favorite.

I havenae seen this :( I would almost guarantee GOLD by the guys in it but not checking it out first would have been a GASH move

Buff Bagwell punches another in a long line of fake stings, only to have it be real sting. He then Drops Bagwell, takes of the Sting mask to reveal face paint, and clears the ring.

glorious GOLD. The Buff strut gimmick with Sting no-selling the punch/waiting for him to finish before the reverse DDT was a great visual.

Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.

it's not bad. Given the choice between GASH or GOLD, I'd have to lean towards GOLD because it was admittedly "PrettyCool"/Iop but I didn't really enjoy the "sit down, shuffle a bit, lower yourself a bit" etc just because it's like, dude is supposed to not care about his body but that stuff screams the opposite (I obviously understand why he did it) New Jack would have just fucking gone for it ;)

[CSL]

10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.

GOLD. For all of the obvious blatant reasons that have been spoken of for 17 years now. That said, didn't enjoy the finish. But I think that's more to do with the directing of the show as opposed to the actual finish.

Bret Harts profanity laced tirade on Raw after losing the title to Sid.

not sure which one you mean. The cage match one when he shoves Vince?

Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

don't recall this (and apparently it turns out it was Scott Putski) but I have no desire to see it, guys getting injured or even generally taking awkward looking bumps makes me cringe. Even if I knew what you meant and watched the match again, I'd turn away when that part came about. Definite GASH.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Match:

Disco Inferno Beats Alex Wright for the TV title.

Moment:

Disco Inferno Beats Saturn for the TV title.

Memory:

Disco inferno does a fake music video parody of Konnan OIL OF OLAY!

[CSL]

I'll get those out of the way for you right now

Match:

Disco Inferno Beats Alex Wright for the TV title.

GASH

Moment:

Disco Inferno Beats Saturn for the TV title.

GASH


Memory:

Disco inferno does a fake music video parody of Konnan OIL OF OLAY!

GASH

I forget he was ever even TV champion once until I was watching some Goldberg streak videos a while back and he showed up with the belt

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

(Chartbuster to CSL)

[Anybody Thrilla]

I thought Disco Inferno was a fine TV champ.

[Poit]

Match:
TLC III (Jericho & Benoit/Edge & Christian/Hardys/Dudleys)

Moment:
Kurt Angle's milk truck
Ric Flair returns the night after Survivor Series 2001

Memory:
Tony Chimel announcing Edge as the Rated-R Sooooooooperstar

[Bad News Gertner]

Rewatched the RVD/Sabu vs Shinzaki/Hayabusa Heatwave 98 match I posted. Not as amazing as I remembered, although Hayabusa was soooooooo good.

[Skippord]

and now he's dead(from the neck down)

[CSL]

Legit interested in CSL'a view on Daniel Bryan's first year in WWE.

completely missed this :o

going to go with GASH. In spite of some incredible matches, he was blandblandbland when he first showed up. This said, he did have a spectacular few weeks, starting with the "hinting at a return to Bryan Danielson", his mini-feud with Michael Cole, complete with a great promo, a really believable intense segment where he kicked the shit out of him, Cole playing the heel foil etc (all GOLD) and of course culminating with the infamous debut of Nexus. And then he was promptly fired. After that it was pretty much a bunch of good to great matches and absolutely nothing else, even being outshone by Derrick Bateman in their segments together. tbf this stuff would have been fine for most people plodding along in the WWE midcard but we saw what was to come.

From the second they started that slow build douchey OTT heel turn with him and tapping into solid GOLD with the Yes! stuff, he's been absolute dynamite and has exceeded surely even the most hardcore slobbering mutant of an ROH fan's expectations and is now one of the must-see acts in all of pro wrestling and for once, it's not just because of the quality of his matches. Compare that to his first "definition of vanilla midget" year-18 months, it's a shocking (and hugely welcome) transformation.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Love you, CSL. Your opinions on wrestling are definitley GOLD.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Match: Billy Kidman vs. Paul London from No Mercy 2004.

Moment: William Regal's promo on Triple H sometime in 2004, or around then. Triple H was bullying Eugene around and Regal stood up to Triple H, bringing up their past and telling Triple H that taking advantage of that disadvantaged boy was one of the stupidest things he has ever done, because now he's gone and made an enemy out of him.

Memory: Kane dominates in the 2001 Royal Rumble.

[CSL]

RVD and Sabu vs Hayabusa and Jinsei Shinzaki at Heatwave. Fav match ever.

thought it was "standard ECW fare", like it was pretty good/fun but didn't stand out as anything special. Definitely GOLD as opposed to GASH however, RVD was the best "unheard of" talent in wrestling at the time, Hayabusa was great, Sabu was still fucking SABU. Did enjoy the double legdrop gimmick. My favourite part tho is probably the pre-match promo *HAKUSHI!* Van Dam showed more character and charisma in that promo than any promo he ever cut in WWE or TNA.

Heyman tells A.P.A that only Simmons is fired and Bradshaw isn't. JBL begins.

GOLD. I enjoyed this, the swerve was something a bit different, it achieved what it needed to and it gave birth to a character/performer so strong/comfortable in the gimmick that practically overnight JBL was launched to the top of the card. That's Justin Hawk Bradshaw, WWE champion.

anybody remember an angle where Hugh Morrus's dad would all of a sudden walk down the aisle confused during his matches?

have never heard of this :S

[CSL]

HBK vs Taker II - HBK's retirement match at Mania 26

GASH. Bit controversial I know but it wasn't as good as HBK/Taker 1 and it was the exit of Shawn Michaels as an in-ring performer. A nice send-off sure, a fitting send-off absolutely. But as a Shawn Michaels fan from the age of about 7 ft. (awful) homemade HBK tights, it was something that was never supposed to happen. Even in the build up to the match it never once occurred to me that this was actually going to be the end of HBK, it was something I never really believed was going to happen. "How does somebody that good, that still outperforms 100% of the wrestlers on Earth on a nightly basis, walk away?" My reasoning is entirely selfish obviously, it's still a very good match, off the top of my head maybe somewhere in the top 5 or 10 matches from the last 5 or 10 Manias but if they'd have stopped after 25 and HBK carried on forever, I'd have been a lot happier http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Jericho's "It Never Happened" title victory over Triple H on RAW in 2000

GOLD. I don't need to go into depth as to why, it's really obvious. The crowd response, the shock, Triple H at his absolute best etc, one of the better moments in RAW history.

Mr Perfect showing off his perfect skills by catching a football he threw.

Solid GOLD. All of those ridiculous Perfect vignettes were, so simple but so good. Or even "perfect" (SEE WHAT I DID THERE) but 4realz, love everything about them. May be a bit biased because Hennig is top 5 all time for me but whatevs Trevs.

[mike adamle]

Match- In your house 8.2: Beware of Dog- Caribbean Strap Match- Savio Vega vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Moment- Edge cashes in on John Cena to win his first WWE Title AFTER Cena wins the Elimination Chamber

Memory- Undertaker's promo on the tron from inside the casket after he lost the casket match at the 1994 Royal Rumble

[Skippord]

how did you feel about that sweet jumping Tombstone at the end of Michaels/Taker 2?

[Skippord]

I for one thought it was sweet

[The Condor]

not sure which one you mean. The cage match one when he shoves Vince?


Yes, sir

[seapig4]

Match: Bret Hart vs British Bulldog WWF title match @ In Your House
Moment: DX takes the piss out of the nation
Memory: Joey Mercury getting his face rearranged by Jeff Hardy jumping on a ladder

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Bret Hart doing anything on-screen in the past 5 years

Miss Kitty flashing her tatars at Armageddon 99? Not sure if it was 99. Think it was. Dunno.

Jeff Jarrett's rise to prominence in WCW in it's dying years.

Jeff Jarrett vs Chyna Intercontinental title feud.

[James Steele]

Mae Young showing her tatars at Royal Rumble 2000.

[James Steele]

Raw 1999:
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RAW1000:
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[CSL]

Kenta Kobashi and Tsuyoshi Kikuchi vs. Doug Furnas and Dan Kroffat from May 25th 1992


-Wrestling Observer's Match of the Year for 1992. It's a favorite of mine as well.

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never seen it. Shall watch at some point.


Ric Flair winning the 1992 Royal Rumble & Post Match Speech

GOLD. Flair had been working for Vince for like what, 3 months tops? And he gets the title from almost the get go. Shows the greatness of the guy right there. Love the whole story, Flair was perfect throughout the match (and in the promo) My favourite part of the whole thing however is still and always will be Bobby Heenan (and Hennig), on commentary and after rushing off to join in the celebrations afterwards. The whole thing was just great. GOLD GOLD GOLD.[/quote]


The 4 Horsemen break Dusty Rhodes' arm
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have really liked this since the very first time I saw it. Feel like we should see more things like this in modern day wrestling, one of those things that would really "add realism" that also makes perfect sense. GOLD.

[CSL]

Match
Shane v. Angle Street Fight 2001

GOLD. The real arrival of "Shane the super non-worker". Had no business having a match anywhere near this good for a guy that isn't a professional wrestler (tho the fact he was in with Angle certainly doesn't hurt) Was actually showing this to a friend recently, such a brutal match as well, the thud when Shane's head hits the floor on one of the failed suplex's is sickening. Great stuff.

Moment
Jeff Swanton off the Titan Tron

"Holy shit, Jeff Hardy is going to get the push." GOLD for the reason alone.

Memory
Steph Turns On Vince

More GOLD. Kickstarted the power couple gimmick. As much as they dominated TV afterwards, the Triple H/Steph in control stuff/Vince leaving was great TV, both were/are great heels for very different reasons, Steph went from dull daughter of Vince to entertaining bitch that suddenly became really quite hot. Plus the angle/turn itself was very well done/perfectly executed and YOU DIDN'T. SEE IT. COMING. BANG! Still only the 2nd most over thing I remember from the show however, 1st obvs being Miss Kitty's tatars

[DAMN iNATOR]

Moment

Big Show and Miz defeat DX and the Straight Edge Society on February 8, 2009 making Miz a triple champion (holding the United States & Unified WWE Tag Team [World Tag Team and WWE Tag Team] championships).


Match

Rock vs. Austin III, WrestleMania XIX, Sunday, March 30, 2003


Memory

Although defeated, Hollywood Hulk Hogan shakes The Rock's hand graciously at WrestleMania X8, and The Rock reciprocates by allowing Hogan to pose for the fans for several minutes in-ring.

[James Steele]

Match -- Triple H vs Taka Michinou (RAW 2000)

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Moment -- Triple H dresses up as Goldust and uses a flamethrower on Kane.

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Memory -- Triple H turns heel at WrestleMania XV

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[Poit]

Moment

Big Show and Miz defeat DX and the Straight Edge Society on February 8, 2009 to become the WWE's first ever triple champion, holding the WWE Tag Team, United States and WWE Championships all at once.

The WWE Championship wasn't part of that.

[CSL]

RVD vs Big Show - "Philly Screwjob" RVD loses the ECW title

GASH. For the same kind of reason I'd call Vince blowing up in the limo GASH and so forth. It was something that we never got to see extend to it's true potential/really see where it was going due to the Van Dam bust/subsequent punishment/"outside forces".

Nexus Dismantles the ring

GOLD. One of those rare "you HAVE to see this", the kind of thing that makes wrestling fans giddy because they know something "big"/gamechanging just happened. Very well executed angle, can't really ask for a better way to introduce a bunch of new guys to the "main audience".

Daniel Bryan calls out Michael Cole.

Solid GOLD. Loved this so much. Was frothing for them to go in this direction with Daniel Bryan at the time since it was all very well played by the 2 guys involved and it was by far the most interesting he'd been since the start of NXT. He's the best guy FOR. THIS. JOB. Nice bit of foreshadowing right there.

[Innovator]

Match


John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels, RAW 2007


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Moment

Tazz returns to ECW as WWE wrestler, takes ECW Title from Mike Awesome, WCW wrestler


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Memory


Jericho being carried away kicking and screaming after being "fired" by Bischoff, RAW 2005.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The WWE Championship wasn't part of that.

Thanks, edited it. Better now?

[Poit]

Yep!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Let's hope CSL feels that way. While I would like to get at least one GOLD from him, he has had it in for me around here ever since 2009, when I argued (and rightly so) that because Jamie Noble had been released from the main roster (or had to retire from the active roster because of Sheamus attacking him), even though he was still a behind-the-scenes guy of some sort, that I should recieve credit for having him on my Pink Slip Pool 2009 list, and was immediately and repeatedly refused by Mr. SL.

[CSL]

amazing post :'(

[VSG]

lol you better give him a GOLD for that post now, Chandler.

[DAMN iNATOR]

amazing post :'(

Even though you were clearly in the wrong, I forgive you and accept your apology, sir. To err is human, to forgive is to put an issue behind you...only to bring that issue right back up again and re-start the whole damn thing. That's the only way to move forward in life.

[DAMN iNATOR]

lol you better give him a GOLD for that post now, Chandler.

Wait, if that’s actually his real first name, i.e. same as one of the guys from Friends, that is amazing.

[parkmania]

Match:
Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels 30 minute Ironman Match

Moment:
The reveal of "Double Dave" Hebner during the Hogan/Andre/DiBiase stuff.

Memory:
Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman on David Letterman. Was the first time I was allowed to stay up past the late local news.

[mike adamle]

At age 16?????

[parkmania]

I'm not quite THAT old.

On July 28, 1982, Lawler and Kaufman appeared on Late Night wit David Letterman to air their differences.

I was 9, almost 10 at the time.

[CSL]

TLC III (Jericho & Benoit/Edge & Christian/Hardys/Dudleys)

Well I can't say GASH because it was a "fun" match but it wasn't TLC I or II GOLD. Was a bit of a waste giving it away on TV but I understand the reasons for it/why they attempted it. The Jeff leapfrog spot still stands out. GOLD.

Kurt Angle's milk truck

GOLD obvs. But more for everything that came before Angle actually showed up. Austin throughout the entire "appreciation night" gimmick was GOLD. Austin throughout 2001 in general actually was GOLD. Probably one of the most famous segments ever.

Ric Flair returns the night after Survivor Series 2001

GOLD. Probably the most GOLD thing in here so far. Strictly because it was responsible for the greatest facial in the history of pro wrestling

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Tony Chimel announcing Edge as the Rated-R Sooooooooperstar

GASH. It's all GOLD until he hits the SOO part and then it goes to shit. Howard Finkel would have provided the great Rated R Superstar the world has ever seen. They'd still talk about it in 30 years time.

[CSL]

have been watching that .gif for about 60 seconds, it never gets old

[XL]

Feel like most the stuff here falls quite clearly in GOLD/GASH territory and therefore doesn't really need to be asked. However, I'm failing to think of anything divisive enough to get an opinion on.

[James Steele]

Feel like most the stuff here falls quite clearly in GOLD/GASH territory and therefore doesn't really need to be asked. However, I'm failing to think of anything divisive enough to get an opinion on.

Way to over think this thread, you fucking douche.

[XL]

You've become so defensive since your Survivor rip-off went down like a lead balloon. Relax.

[James Steele]

Fuck you.

[#1-norm-fan]

"Overthinking" has become James Steele's "strawman".

[James Steele]

Much like continuing to be a utter shite poster has become your "thing"?

[#1-norm-fan]

Aww snap.

[James Steele]

I know it isn't very original, but I call a spade a spade and a piece of shit a piece of shit.

[#1-norm-fan]

A speckled piece of shit a la WWE's booking?

[James Steele]

WWE's booking is flawless, you know that. Vince McMahon's ball sweat could book a better show than any man alive.

[Poit]

Way to over think this thread, you fucking douche.

http://www.overthinkingit.com/

[James Steele]

I officially support Poit for King of the Forum.

[Bad News Gertner]

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4700628021217562&pid=1.7

"The only gash I like is the one I leave on my daughter's twat!

[#1-norm-fan]

RIP Buck Zumhofe's daughter's innocence.

[Poit]

I officially support Poit for King of the Forum.

:y:

[Bad News Gertner]

CSL, you ever see Rey Mysterio vs Ultimo Dragon from World War 3 1996? Best crusierweight match I've ever seen.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Match: Lesnar vs. Goldberg from WM20

Moment: Austin/Booker T supermarket brawl

Memory: ECW joins in on the 2001 invasion</font>

[James Steele]

Gash or GOLD -- What are your thoughts on Triple H's patented "Inverted Indian Deathlock"?


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[CSL]

Billy Kidman vs. Paul London from No Mercy 2004.

GOLD. Paul London in a singles match on PPV (:heart: London) and the match not being an "indyfest" (except for the million and one forearms he threw) Showed perfectly how small guys can have good matches without resorting to all of that nonsense that's so prevalent today on seemingly every indy show, the springboard turnbuckle moonsault to the outside and the "different" spots (don't recall seeing a guy pull up before the traditional leapfrog spot and nailing the guy going for it before or since) being fun to see. I do believe that pretty much all wrestler should really "look the part" but matches like these are proof that there is a spot on the card for small guys on "the reg".

William Regal's promo on Triple H sometime in 2004, or around then. Triple H was bullying Eugene around and Regal stood up to Triple H, bringing up their past and telling Triple H that taking advantage of that disadvantaged boy was one of the stupidest things he has ever done, because now he's gone and made an enemy out of him.

GOLD. SOLID SOLID GOLD. One of those moments (at least for me at the time) where you get a bit giddy and the child in you comes out a bit and you want to see Regal beat the fuck out of the big bad wolf. "Traditional story that taps into primitive emotions" I guess and done perfectly.

Kane dominates in the 2001 Royal Rumble.

Ehhhhh. Where did it go? So many stop and starts for Kane by this point that it was like "ahhh, we know it's not really going to go anywhere". GASH on that basis alone I guess. Don't get me wrong tho, big fan of Kane. Never really all that excited to see him (at least wasn't until Team Hell No) but you have to respect the shit out of a guy that's been under contract that long/gone from the dentist to this/still going strong at his age/really secured his place in "history" etc.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Let's hope CSL feels that way. While I would like to get at least one GOLD from him, he has had it in for me around here ever since 2009, when I argued (and rightly so) that because Jamie Noble had been released from the main roster (or had to retire from the active roster because of Sheamus attacking him), even though he was still a behind-the-scenes guy of some sort, that I should recieve credit for having him on my Pink Slip Pool 2009 list, and was immediately and repeatedly refused by Mr. SL.

To be 'pink slipped' means to be fired. He was never fired. You're wrong. As fuck, actually.

[Poit]

Gash or GOLD -- What are your thoughts on Triple H's patented "Inverted Indian Deathlock"?

Similarly, what about Emma's Emma Lock - a bridging inverted Indian deathlock chinlock?

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[Mr. Nerfect]

The DilEmma!

[CSL]

Match- In your house 8.2: Beware of Dog- Caribbean Strap Match- Savio Vega vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin

Don't remember this being anything particularly memorable in terms of it being a super match or anything. I remember it being alright, certainly more GOLD than GASH. I think in hindsight the more interesting things about matches and feuds like this involving Austin is what he would go onto achieve/his standing 18 months later.

Moment- Edge cashes in on John Cena to win his first WWE Title AFTER Cena wins the Elimination Chamber

Solid GOLD. Perfect way to execute the first MITB gimmick, Cena the all conquering hero looking like an absolute beast, Edge with a bit of a rub from Vince looking like the devious sneaky heel character he went on to perfect. So good.

Memory- Undertaker's promo on the tron from inside the casket after he lost the casket match at the 1994 Royal Rumble

I quite like the hammy things in wrestling/the things that non-wrestling fans tend to not really "get" because I fully understand it's all dumb entertainment and not an award winning HBO drama show and so on but even this when you see it is kind of a bit like "ughhh". Maybe I should go back and watch it again but the initial memories aren't favourable. GASH.

[CSL]

Bret Hart vs British Bulldog WWF title match @ In Your House

GOLD. Nothing particularly astonishing, just a solid "Bret Hart match".

Moment: DX takes the piss out of the nation

I don't think a wrestling fan on earth would think of this as anything other than gold. The barometer for every single parody promo/segment of all time, every single person involved killed it. One of the most famous segments ever. For me personally, the fact I still use "Mizark" and just yesterday afternoon asked the female I was with how a rather portly female at another table "got her tits to go all the way around her back" says it all. GOLD.

Memory: Joey Mercury getting his face rearranged by Jeff Hardy jumping on a ladder

GASH. Horrific. I think I'd rather have broken a bone than suffer an injury like this. Just nasty nasty nasty.

[XL]

I loved that Undertaker 94 Rumble stuff.

[CSL]

yeah, I'm going to check it out again tomorrow, been a long long time since I've seen it and my "mindset" would have been quite a bit different then

[XL]

It was really hammy and my fondness for it is no doubt seeded in nostalgia but I loved it as a kid.

[CSL]

Bret Hart doing anything on-screen in the past 5 years

I have to say GOLD just because it's nice to know Bret is on decent terms with Vince/the company again and he's a legend and a want to see him on a TV screen.

Miss Kitty flashing her tatars at Armageddon 99? Not sure if it was 99. Think it was. Dunno.

GOLDDDD. I still remember my 14 year old self watching the replay of the show on Sky and getting all "SHIT, TITS!"

Jeff Jarrett's rise to prominence in WCW in it's dying years.

Hmmm. Big Jarrett fan, he deserved the chance etc, it just would have been nice to see him get that chance for Vince and not in the clusterfuck era of WCW. Loved his music, "slapnuts", the guitar shots but I think I have to go GASH because it's forever tainted with the oozing WCW-ness from the time.

Jeff Jarrett vs Chyna Intercontinental title feud.

GOLD. If only for Jarrett REPORTEDLY holding Vince up for like a quarter of a mil (depending on who you believe. Personally enjoy most stories of cunty "backstage shenanigans") don't actually remember the feud being all that terrible but it was like 14 years ago. Really liked the "Jeff Jarrett - misogynist" stuff in general.

[CSL]

Moment

Big Show and Miz defeat DX and the Straight Edge Society on February 8, 2009 making Miz a triple champion (holding the United States & Unified WWE Tag Team [World Tag Team and WWE Tag Team] championships).

erm, I guess GOLD if anything. Didn't think it was particularly special or anything/"pretty standard fare" but I enjoyed the Miz/Show team.


Match

Rock vs. Austin III, WrestleMania XIX, Sunday, March 30, 2003

it has to be GOLD because of the setting, the participants, Austin's final match and so forth (even more so after seeing the Mania of Mania documentary) That said, it's definitely the weakest of the 3 Mania matches I think. Surprising finish was nice, Austin with the definition of "returning the favour". Got a bit feminine when hearing the two of them talking about it on Austin's last DVD :o

Memory

Although defeated, Hollywood Hulk Hogan shakes The Rock's hand graciously at WrestleMania X8, and The Rock reciprocates by allowing Hogan to pose for the fans for several minutes in-ring.

GOLD of course. Everything about that entire match is GOLD. Might be "the most special match" ever.

[Savio]

Memory: Hogan tries to murder Rock 2 weeks before hand

[Dude Marsh]

Match: Dude Love & Steve Austin vs Owen Hart & British Bulldog, Raw 97 (The win the tag Team Championship)

Moment: Owen Hart wins King of the Ring.

Memory: Vader debuts in WWF and squashes Gorilla Monsoon with a splash.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Memory: Hogan tries to murder Rock 2 weeks before hand

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LOL, I still remember watching and falling for that big time at the time, until my friend, who was watching with me clued me in that the ambulance was empty the whole time.

[CSL]

Match -- Triple H vs Taka Michinou (RAW 2000)

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GOLD. Nobody does this stuff better than WWE and I personally love it, especially when they get a crowd to bite on the inevitable "big nearfall". Not as good as other matches as the same variety but still fun.

Moment -- Triple H dresses up as Goldust and uses a flamethrower on Kane.

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I liked it more than I disliked it so GOLD. Watching back now it's pretty obvious it's Triple H but I dare say seeing it for the first time and not really thinking about it, it probably fooled a lot of people. The flamethrower part was really impressive looking also. Probably the first time we saw a bit of real "fire" from Triple H.

Memory -- Triple H turns heel at WrestleMania XV

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the turn itself feels a bit underwhelming but it got the job done and the crowd bought it. The Chyna swerve leading to this was a nice touch, Kane being cemented as the big sympathetic babyface (which was a huge "life extension" to his character) etc were all nice touches. All GOLD. The best part of the whole thing though is Billy Gunn bumping and feeding like an absolute trooper, makes Triple H look like a beast.

[CSL]

Match


John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels, RAW 2007


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There isn't much to be said about this really. Although "it was better than the main event of WrestleMania" between the same two guys sums it up quite well. Solid GOLD. Go watch it now if you haven't seen it. Plus HBK goes over clean!


Moment

Tazz returns to ECW as WWE wrestler, takes ECW Title from Mike Awesome, WCW wrestler


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This was pretty cool gotta say despite the Tazz character already being dead and buried. Tazz showing up on WWE TV with the title equally so, something really quite different. Was probably shit hot actually being there. GOLD.


Memory


Jericho being carried away kicking and screaming after being "fired" by
Bischoff, RAW 2005.

This was just okay I think, nothing too great or too bad. I have to go with GOLD just because of Jericho's fondness of the whole angle and his mindset about the reasoning for it/desire to do it again in the future. The kind of thing some mutie would inevitably have kicked off about only to feel like the bellend that they are/actually learn something when hearing Jericho talk about. The Work 1 The Mutie 0.

[Nervous Ferret]

When hulked hogan BODYSLAMMERED andy the giant!!!!

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'd like to thank you for your honest opinion, CSL. I wonder if we could both turn over a new leaf and forget these last several years of hostility towards one another and go back to being on good terms, but by all means don't take my simple plea as a demand for friendship, just a humble request.

[CSL]

Match:
Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels 30 minute Ironman Match

hot shit, went "out of my way" to watch this not long ago aka pick up the DVD off my shelf and place it in the PS3, which I don't do very often with wrestling. But yeah, GOLD. Not as good as the Mania match but still better than 99% of things in wrestling. You could blindfold them and they'd still be GOLD.

Moment:
The reveal of "Double Dave" Hebner during the Hogan/Andre/DiBiase stuff.

GOLD obvs. Hogan's ridiculous over-the-top sell of it made the whole thing. Actually saw this again recently, still great. When Hogan press slams one of them over the top rope and just completely launches him and he pretty much misses his intended landing spot of DiBiase an Virgil, kind of funny. Just wish we'd have actually seen DiBiase get a run :(

Memory:
Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman on David Letterman. Was the first time I was allowed to stay up past the late local news.

this is the definition of wrestling GOLD. I've always thought that the one of the biggest accomplishments you can achieve as a pro wrestler is when people know your show/profession is a work yet you still make them ask "was that real?" And this was probably the most famous example of that, possibly in the history of the business.

[CSL]

CSL, you ever see Rey Mysterio vs Ultimo Dragon from World War 3 1996? Best crusierweight match I've ever seen.

I have. It's certainly GOLD as oppose to GASH but I wouldn't say it's the best cruiserweight match ever (but obviously that's subjective) watching "early" Rey Mysterio stuff is always fun. He certainly wasn't the worker he went on to be at the time in terms of match structure and pacing and doing things at the "right time" etc but given it was before he'd started to break down a bit, he could do some truly spectacular stuff without turning the match into a shitarse-fest. The skinny guys of today could really take not from this kind of stuff.

[CSL]

<font color=goldenrod>Match: Lesnar vs. Goldberg from WM20

Given the circumstances, the potential for what it could and should have been aka absolutely fucking HUGE Mania main event worthy, the fact we all knew it was both of their last nights, the general "tone", the crowd, how it's remembered and so forth, it would seem a pretty safe bet for the GASH column. But Goldberg's gorilla press into a spinebuster on a legitimate 290lb guy and making it look easy might be the single most impressive physical thing I've ever seen in professional wrestling and given the fact I'm a fan of both guys, I have to go GOLD. But it should have been SO much more.

Moment: Austin/Booker T supermarket brawl

"PRICE CHECK ON THE JACKASS!" Hilarious. Austin at his "entertainment" funniest and Booker more than played his part also. Complete GOLD.

Memory: ECW joins in on the 2001 invasion</font>

I enjoyed this. Maybe others saw it coming but I didn't at the time, the "dawning realization" that "shit, those are all ECW guys" as they did the slow turn schtick was a cool moment. And WCW definitely needed help in terms of recognized and "established" guys and this was a decent enough way of going about it. Head and shoulders the 2 biggest "plus points" however were Heyman getting a decent spot for the whole angle (cut some of the best promos of the entire angle behind Austin and maybe Vince) and the introduction of RVD to WWE, who blew up almost instantly/was main eventing PPV's within months/showing the audience something they hadn't really seen before. GOLD. Although, much like Goldberg/Brock at Mania, it should have been so much more.