Enough with the Sin Cara bashing!

[Juan]

And enough with the stupid Sin Cara memes.

I will fight every last one of you

Now, use this thread to discuss how awesome Sin Cara is.

[The Condor]

Survivor Series 2011 was a shining moment.:cool:

[Lock Jaw]

He's alright. Definitely improved since his debut. Just suffered from not being able to live up to the hype he was getting right away. If they actually sent him to FCW/NXT first before his big push on WWE TV, he could be a lot bigger than he is today.

He'll never be Rey Mysterio "big", though.

[Skippord]

I do not get the mood lighting

[whiteyford]

Yeah scrap the mood lighting, just screams jobber to me.

[whiteyford]

And give him a mouth piece, Ricardo could do that, not being able to talk hinders him a lot.

[Rammsteinmad]

In his 2.5 years in WWE, the only significant thing he's really done is botch and get injured. His confrontations with Sin Cara Negro were great, even if the match itself was a huge let-down.

[Curd]

I haven't seen new photoshopped Sin Cara images lately. The bashing hasn't slowed?

Anyway, Sin Cara takes bumps through tables quite well.

[Skippord]

he hit one of the sweetest moves I've ever seen the other week on Main Event

was like a Hurricanrana DDT sort of thing

[Skippord]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwemainevent/2013-07-24/results-26134555/page-2

at 2:25 or so

[Fignuts]

The mask needs to be modified. Bad enough he can't speak English, but you can't see any emotion out of him during the match. He literally has no way to connect with the crowd on an emotional level.

Also, I like La Sombra better.

[Fignuts]

http://youtu.be/TcjNU-hXyZ4

[Fignuts]

Sorry dunno how to embed with this gay iPod.

[Skippord]

La Sombra is also apparently the name of a fun Mariachi band, based on a quick google search.

[Fignuts]

Cara is pretty slick in the ring tho. Kinda wasted in 3 minute matches.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The mask needs to be modified. Bad enough he can't speak English, but you can't see any emotion out of him during the match. He literally has no way to connect with the crowd on an emotional level.

Also, I like La Sombra better.

I hear you about the mask. Seems like the only excuse they have for keeping it that way is the whole " 'Sin Cara' translation means 'Without face'." Stupid, really.

[The Whole F'n Show]

He has yet to live up to all of the hype, with most of his matches being moodlit botch fests, even when working with GREAT wrestlers. I know that I had high hopes when he arrived, hopefully with some tajiri- like skills, but they aren't there and I don't see how they ever will be.

[Vastardikai]

http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/m2p22_sin_cara_pic1.jpg

[DaveBrawl]

I will also fight all of you, I haven't actually seen any bashing, but if Juan says it I believe it.

Love Sin Cara.

[Savio]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIcK3Ta_w2aikvTI3xLGTpGY289KJ7evRhah5hXA7v7lb6XoxJaA

[voncouch]

Sorry. I was going to leave a nice comment about Sin Cara, but I botched my post.

[Heisenberg]

I turned my stance on Sin Cara b/c of his backstage antics on Smackdown! a few weeks ago. Plus I just noticed through Lock Jaw that he points at ppl quite a bit and that's powerful as hayell.

[bigslimjj]

I prefer Hunico dressed as Sin Cara...btw, what the hell happened to Hunico?...and his samoan body guard? Sin Cara is very good at looking through trunks for stuff though.

[#1-norm-fan]

His confrontations with Sin Cara Negro were great, even if the match itself was a huge let-down.

Seriously, what the fuck happened with that match???

[DaveBrawl]

You are all (except my boy H'berg) going on the list Juan and I are compiling.

[Vastardikai]

For the record, I posted a WWE Licensed action figure for Sin Cara.

[Shisen Kopf]

Sin Cara is good when he's not botching but the fact he can't speak English pretty much means he'll never have a decent feud. Been here two years and still won't learn English? Typical.

[Savio]

I'm surprised Juan (the bully) is telling us not to bully.

[bigslimjj]

I'm surprised Juan (the bully) is telling us not to bully.

It takes Juan....to know Juan.

[DaveBrawl]

For the record, I posted a WWE Licensed action figure for Sin Cara.
Your still on the list because your intentions were clear.

[DaveBrawl]

Everyone leave Juan Cara alone as well.

No more Cara bashing, no matter how many Cara's they have be it Sin or Juan.

[DaveBrawl]

In depth play on his name right there. The rest of you should take notes.

[Vastardikai]

Your still on the list because your intentions were clear.

Then Hasbro should be on the list, as well. Because they made the damned thing.

Also, Fuck your list! :-p

[Lock Jaw]

Sin Cara could benefit from a feud against Zeb Colter's crew. Colter could do enough talking for everybody, while Sin Cara consistently shows "heart" and pulls out victories.

Just scrap the mood lighting.

[Emperor Smeat]

The mood lighting was such a stupid idea not because he was the only one with special lights but because he probably could barely see anything from how dark the lights were. Took months before the WWE realized this and made them brighter.

The Cara vs Cara feud was good even though it was really short.

[ron the dial]

I do not get the mood lighting

[Heisenberg]

Sin Cara should turn heel and attack Rey Mysterio at his casa, that would be awesome. Or have a gimmick where he travels to wrestler's houses and steals their trash and souls.

[whiteyford]

Didn't someone suggest the idea of giving him a manager who's a heel but since Sin Cara doesn't speak English he's oblivious to it all. I'd watch that.

[Wake Up Call]

There is no doubt in my mind, WWE missed an opportunity with this guy. I would have turned Mysterio heel, and have him go after Sin Cara. Have Cara go over, let Mysterio retire. You would still have the merchandise sales from masks, and Cara woulda been over huge with the little Mexicans.

[Heisenberg]

or he should go around touching the boobies of Divas and acting all innocent about it and telling them to hush with his fingers and then proceeds to combat roll out of picture

[Razzamajazz]

i somewhat sorta kind of enjoyed his feud with cody rhodes a while back when rhodes kept trying take the mask off

[Cool King]

It's gotten to the point now that nobody gives a damn about Sin Cara.

He was greatly hyped but he didn't live up to it and he kept botching so much that he became a walking joke. It didn't help him at all that he couldn't speak English around the time of his debut and even to this day. His mask is another hindrance as his entire face is covered, so nobody can see how the character is feeling. So he can't talk and he can't show emotion so he's pretty much just a walking mannequin.

All he does is point, shake his head and pump up his arms. When he does have a match, which seems to be rare these days, it's usually around two minutes long and is accompanied by that God awful mood lighting, which doesn't help anyone. Not only can the audience not see a damn thing, Sin Cara himself must find it hard to see with his mask on. That's the only explanation I can think of for his constant botching.

He's such a joke that nobody cares about that he's now relegated to raking in trash only to make someone else's storyline seem that more authentic. Sorry Juan, but I was somewhat interested in Sin Cara when he was being hyped and after his debut, but that quickly died and now, I don't care about him at all. A lot would have to change with him to gain my interest in him again.

The only time he's ever been interesting to me was during his angle with Sin Cara Negro/Hunico. Infact, I like Hunico much more than I do Sin Cara and Hunico was only brought in to cover for Sin Cara during his suspension.

I miss Hunico.

[Rammsteinmad]

Seriously, what the fuck happened with that match???

Are you asking coz you missed it? Or because you were as equally bummed out about it as I was?

[Ultra Mantis]

I'm quietly hoping that Xaviar Woods is brought up soon and forms a face stable of Sin Caras to fight off The Shield / Wyatts.

[Poit]

I'm quietly hoping that Xavier Woods is brought up soon and forms a face stable of <strike>Sin Caras</strike> Power Rangers to fight off The Shield / Wyatts.

Fixed that for you.

[Savio]

When my girl use to watch WWE she would laugh at his video (because of the stupid green screen fire):

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/NH4eUVPeJOc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Ultra Mantis]

Fixed that for you.

We'll call them the Flighty Morphine Cara Rangers for legal reasons.

[Lock Jaw]

Flinstones Chewable Morphine

[Ultra Mantis]

I would bet that's what his wellness violation was for.

[Poit]

We'll call them the Flighty Morphine Cara Rangers for legal reasons.

I'd prefer:

http://img.neoseeker.com/mgv/47729/729/1/supermariorpgaxemrangersscreenshot_display.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Axem Rangers Ruled

[#1-norm-fan]

There is no doubt in my mind, WWE missed an opportunity with this guy. I would have turned Mysterio heel, and have him go after Sin Cara. Have Cara go over, let Mysterio retire. You would still have the merchandise sales from masks, and Cara woulda been over huge with the little Mexicans.

I don't know if it was a missed opportunity by WWE as much as it was Rey or Sin Cara ALWAYS being injured. There were rumors that at least a match was planned at some point but it would have been tough to build the feud when both guys being healthy at the same time for more than a month is a miracle.

[#1-norm-fan]

Are you asking coz you missed it? Or because you were as equally bummed out about it as I was?

Because I remember watching it thinking "How can it be this bad? It's actually bizarre how underwhelming this match is."

I'm no Sin Cara hater. And Hunico can certainly go in the ring. I just can't fathom how they fucked it up that bad.

[My Final Heaven]

If it were me, I'd have him doing these things in that entrance vid

*doing those stupid sideways "V" gang fingers that 99% of girls do in their Facebook photos!
*eating a plate of spaghetti!
*holding a PS3/360 controller!
*he's doing the double "I'm pointing at you!!!" thing, but have the camera zoom back to show that he's sitting on the crapper!

He'd become the biggest Superstar in the history of the WWE Universe

[Curd]

Hmm, reminds me of the "Day in the Life of Sin Cara" youtube series. One of the vids has a dude in a Sin Cara mask attempting to dramatically pour milk onto cereal but gets it all over himself. The execution isn't as funny as it sounds because he actually hit the bowl and overpoured a little, not as catastrophic as one might imagine.

[Juan]

At least DaveBrawl knows the score

[Skippord]

hey I praised that hurricanrana driver he did the other day

[The Condor]

When my girl use to watch WWE she would laugh at his video (because of the stupid green screen fire):

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/NH4eUVPeJOc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

He may be the only guy on the roster w/o action shots :rofl:

[Juan]

hey I praised that hurricanrana driver he did the other day

ok fine, I wont fight you.

[Tom Guycott]

I do not get the mood lighting

Yeah scrap the mood lighting, just screams jobber to me.


Just scrap the mood lighting.

Maybe the mood is about to change?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdp26xXXio1rk5wnbo1_500.gif

I'm inclined to agree with the naysayers on this thread. Had they actually a) given the Sin Cara gimmick to Hunico to begin with and b) nix the lighting treatment during the matches themselves, the "make him a big deal quick" idea could have at least been a start.

The only forseeable way to salvage him in any way is to keep having him do silly shit in backstage segments (even that needs to be "bigger"... like, have him do stuff besides nod or point... maybe some facepalms or shoulder shrugs?), or do something like make the "unemployed" Ricardo his mouthpiece/harbinger of vengeance...

or he should go around touching the boobies of Divas and acting all innocent about it and telling them to hush with his fingers and then proceeds to combat roll out of picture

or that.

[whiteyford]

I believe Tom Guycott is insinuating Sin Cara needs to snap and become a badass submission machine. Or get a towel.

[whiteyford]

It's my answer for a lot of things but they need to give him a feud, something to make us invest in him rather than random 3 minute matches.

[Lock Jaw]

Or turn Sin Cara into a Hurricane-like superhero gimmick

[Lock Jaw]

It has been over a year since The Avengers came out, about time for the WWE to try to capitalize on it.

[#1-norm-fan]

It's my answer for a lot of things but they need to give him a feud, something to make us invest in him rather than random 3 minute matches.

It really is the solution to most guys getting lost in the shuffle. It's been years since they've put any real, consistent effort into getting good feuds going outside the main event and that's why so many guys have gotten stagnant.

[Poit]

After Del Rio loses the WHC, a Del Rio/Sin Cara feud for the IC title could help make Sin Cara relevant.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The hurricanrana he used to finish Drew McIntyre on Main Event was fucking sick. I've never given up hope on Sin Cara, as I've always felt that the reason he wasn't clicking was because he was rushed and the production of the character is all wrong. The mood-lighting doesn't help him out, because it makes everything darker and he's meant to be an inspiring human being. Isn't he? The WWE has done a pretty piss-poor job of explaining who Sin Cara is and what he is about. They should do some sort of vignettes on the guy before they bring him back. Show children talking about how he has taught them that anything is possible with a good heart and hard work. That sort of bullshit.

Put him on a winning streak after that. Also, go back to a blue color scheme. He should only use other colors for special occasions. He then goes on a winning streak, hitting his sweet hurricanranas on 3MB for a few weeks, and then on Epico & Primo, then on Darren Young, etc. Keep him going up the roster until people begin to bank on the guy and get behind him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Or they can just put him back with Rey Mysterio when Rey is healthy, and until then let Sin Cara train down in NXT to get even better at the WWE style.

[Vastardikai]

So, he can team with Rey for a couple weeks until the next injury?

[Curd]

or he should go around touching the boobies of Divas and acting all innocent about it and telling them to hush with his fingers and then proceeds to combat roll out of picture


Yes, Sin Cara would get over much better as a comedy act now. He can feud with 3MB!

[Curd]

Damn it, Juan, I would've totally forgotten about Sin Cara botches had you not reminded me!

Now I CANNOT STOP THINKING ABOUT Sin Cara botches! :)

[Curd]

http://botchedspot.com/files/comics/2012-11-16-cara-early.jpg

[Curd]

http://wrestlinglol.com/images/sin-cara-botch-3617.png

[Curd]

Tons of Sin Cara botch memes here:
http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/character/botchin-sin-cara

And here:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/sin-cara-tweets-location-of-hotel-wrestlers-are-staying-at-for-wrestlemania.102849/page-4

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/hc2bqq.jpg

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/iqyb3z.jpg

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/42ppxu.jpg

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/r23znu.jpg

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/dv33y5.jpg

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/ppxf3c.jpg

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/2i6f23.jpg

[Curd]

And my favorite:

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/y0lfz1.jpg

[Curd]

Some people familiar with how inept Spider-Man is in the daily serial comic run in the newspapers may subliminally associate this with Sin Cara due to their masks and hard-earned reputation.

[daimoniac]

http://i.imgur.com/UgNPHQl.jpg

well i thought it was funny...

[Juan]

Dammit Curd, you cuntbag.

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/jo7gf8.jpg

[GD]

Sin Cara Negro for life.

[DaveBrawl]

After Del Rio loses the WHC, a Del Rio/Sin Cara feud for the IC title could help make Sin Cara relevant.
Or they could have Sin Cara take the title from Del Rio and go on to unify the world titles in a 500 day reign.

I like my idea better.

[Curd]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/fxpyi4.jpg

[road doggy dogg]

Sin Cara is awful, but not as awful as the cancer that is internet memes.
crossrine

[DaveBrawl]

I will fight you RDD, and then Juan will hit you from behind while you are curbstomping me to prove we are right.

[road doggy dogg]

Well if you're doing it in the name of Sin Cara you'll surely botch the attempt and end up hurting yourselves! :lol: :lol: [/ugh]
crossrine

[road doggy dogg]

GREAT match tonight on Raw, really showing his true potential.
crossrine

[DaveBrawl]

I will continue the fight in the name of our paper mache champion.

[Juan]

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[Fignuts]

Juan, you know I was there with you in the beginning, referencing his work as Mistico, but its over dude. It's just over.

[Skippord]

I'd like it if they introduced Sin Cara's white half brother "Steve Cara"

just a real nerdy guy wearing a mask

holy shit, EL GENERICO

[Evil Vito]

And my favorite:

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/y0lfz1.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Memes have worn thin on me but I burst out laughing picturing this one actually happening.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I agree it's time to end the Sin Cara bashing. Just release him already.

[Skippord]

http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/media/created/2i6f23.jpg
This one's both racist and not funny, did Jeff Dunham write it?

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2013/08/sincarainjured.jpg
Sin Cara flew again on Monday Night Raw, but the soaring International Sensation was cut down almost as quickly as his return began when he suffered an injury to his hand during a match with World Heavyweight Champion Alberto Del Rio.
“During the match he did a dive outside of the ring and landed on his finger and dislocated his 4thring finger,” said WWE physician Dr. Michael Sampson.” I evaluated it, I reduced it – meaning I relocated it – in the ring, and brought him back to the training room.”
According to Sampson, an injury such as this does carry risk, which is why the bout was stopped and Sin Cara is currently slated to undergo further testing. “We’re going get X-rays tomorrow to make sure he doesn’t have an avulsion fracture,” said Sampson. “Hopefully we’ll be able to finger splint him and he’ll be able to wrestle, but it’ll be determined after x-rays tomorrow.”
Check back with WWE.com for more on Sin Cara’s condition.

[Lock Jaw]

Dude can just not catch a break

[Lock Jaw]

(Or maybe he can)

[Poit]

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/4/4c/Bahdumtish1.gif

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/m2p22_sin_cara_pic1.jpg

[Juan]

h8 you guys

[Skippord]

after he retires Sin Cara should start teaching a spin class

"Spin Cara"

*gunshot*

[Lock Jaw]

Used to honestly think that spin class was a bunch of women sitting around a bunch of these

http://pacificwoolandfiber.com/new%20images/spinning%20wheels/polonaise%20spinning%20wheel.jpg

making sweaters and stuff

[Skippord]

That's what it would be if I were president

[Fignuts]

Holy fuck he stopped the match cause he hurt his finger?

What a fucking bitch.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think the match was stopped for him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Have the WWE yet explained why we should care about Sin Cara? Like given him a backstory?

[DaveBrawl]

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
Don't get down Juan. Sin Cara Nation can overcome a dislocated finger and return to glory...as long as it wasn't his pointing finger.

[ron the dial]

i'll miss his music

[Tommy Gunn]

He should man up and relocate his own finger Bret Hart style.

[Cool King]

Holy fuck he stopped the match cause he hurt his finger?

What a fucking bitch.

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

[Cool King]

But a hurt finger is a really serious injury. It's not like that pussy injury Triple H got when his quad came completely off the bone, that's why that match wasn't stopped. This hurt finger is way more serious, so stopping the match was the right thing to do.

[The Condor]

Saw Steve Beuerlein dislocate his finger in a game about a decade ago. Looked painful. But Sin Cara is hilarious.

http://www.couchmaster.ca/images/pod/POD_Beurerlein.jpg

[Curd]

That's what it would be if I were president

And if you were president, would you penalize Sin Cara memes? :)

[Lock Jaw]

Thought it was a work because Alberto kept going after him, tossed him the ring, kicked him while he was down... etc.

The ref had to actually shove Alberto pretty hard to get him to back off.

[Rammsteinmad]

But a hurt finger is a really serious injury. It's not like that pussy injury Triple H got when his quad came completely off the bone, that's why that match wasn't stopped. This hurt finger is way more serious, so stopping the match was the right thing to do.

Let's not forget that pussy Steve Austin, finishing a match with a broken neck. What a bitch.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Let's not forget that pussy Steve Austin, finishing a match with a broken neck. What a bitch.

Or Sabu for that matter, using duct tape to patch up an injury mid-match only to continue and finish the match.

[BigCrippyZ]

Fingers? FFS! Foley dislocated his jaw and dislocated his shoulder during the HIAC with Taker.

[Lock Jaw]

Vader popped an eyeball back into his head

[Savio]

Are we sure that story isn't a work?

[Lock Jaw]

Which story?

[Chavo Classic]

http://i.imgur.com/VL2DLXO.gif

Ouch. Still though, deal with it and carry on with the match.

[Cool King]

Hopefully when Sin Cara returns from his career threatening injury, he'll be a badass submission machine.

That'll gain more interest in him.

[Cool King]

https://irs1.4sqi.net/img/general/680x680/51957917_jvFZ9Uu_BDPsSuRDMjCRP2F8hDc-sZd13c8AnIz1eQQ.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn't actually see the match. Did Sin Cara want the match to be stopped or did the referee call it? They stop matches for blood sometimes these days.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ring doctor was the one who called it off.


"During the match he did a dive outside of the ring and landed on his finger and dislocated his 4th ring finger. I evaluated it, I reduced it - meaning I relocated it - in the ring, and brought him back to the training room. We're going (to) get X-rays tomorrow to make sure he doesn't have an avulsion fracture. Hopefully we'll be able to finger splint him and he'll be able to wrestle, but it'll be determined after x-rays tomorrow."


Supposedly it wasn't the dive spot but instead Del Rio nailing the hand with a kick that actually caused the injury. The dive ended up making it worse.

Even worse is Del Rio might have been legit pissed at Cara which is why the ref had to physically push Del Rio away.

[Vastardikai]

To be fair, I have broken a bone in the knuckle of both of my pinkies (within a month of each other). jammed them on basketballs both times (Batista is wrong). they got swollen and purple and shit hours later.

I didn't continue playing after either injury. So I won't give him as much shit as I could. But I was in 6th grade gym class, too. So totally not the same thing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sin Cara will rise.

[Ultra Mantis]

Ring doctor was the one who called it off.



Supposedly it wasn't the dive spot but instead Del Rio nailing the hand with a kick that actually caused the injury. The dive ended up making it worse.

Even worse is Del Rio might have been legit pissed at Cara which is why the ref had to physically push Del Rio away.

Del Rio was pissed because it meant he had to cut a promo double the usual length, meaning he had to say everything four times instead of two in order to pad it out.

[Wehttam]

well i remember reports that sin cara and adr have had heat for years.

remember when adr 'mistakenly' unmasked sin cara last year?

[Fignuts]

Yeah reports are saying that Rio was mad pissed and calling Sin Cara a pussy.


I've broken my finger in soccer a few times. reset it myself and kept playing. Obviously you don't need your hands in soccer like you do in wrestling, but they could have done something besides just stopping the match.

[Volare]

well i remember reports that sin cara and adr have had heat for years.

remember when adr 'mistakenly' unmasked sin cara last year?

I try to imagine Del Rio's voice yelling "Stop being a Pussy!"

[bigslimjj]

Fingers? FFS! Foley dislocated his jaw and dislocated his shoulder during the HIAC with Taker.Or ya know....his ear.

[loopydate]

I've had just about enough of your Vassar bashing, young lady!

[Lock Jaw]

I've had just about enough of your Vassar bashing, young lady!

Been thinking of this line every time I see the thread. Glad I am not alone in being a weirdo.

[loopydate]

LJ, you know if it can even remotely tangentially be connected to a Simpsons quote, I'm right there with you

[mike adamle]

I dislocated the same exact finger during football practice and it was easily a lot worse looking and I popped it back in and continued playing. This should get Sin Cara fired. If you can't wrestle with an injured finger for a few more minutes you shouldn't be in the biggest company in the world.

[Curd]

Sin Cara should incorporate some power moves like the Samoan drop and snap suplex.