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slik
04-24-2015, 09:15 PM
Jared Leto's Joker revealed. I love it, different but very awesome.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDZlb1ZWgAIjhcG.jpg

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squad-jared-letos-joker-791358?facebook_20150424

Frank Drebin
04-24-2015, 09:53 PM
Makes me want to watch Trainspotting, SLC Punk and the 3rd season of Breaking Bad all at once.

alvarado52
04-24-2015, 10:24 PM
Pretty sure ive seen that dude at every Hot Topic store, ever.


In other words...fucking awful.

Lock Jaw
04-24-2015, 10:24 PM
Looks very "Hood"

Kalyx triaD
04-24-2015, 10:45 PM
A lot of dead tattoo artists.

Fignuts
04-24-2015, 10:48 PM
yeeeaaaaaaaaah

Gonna have ta wait and see on this one.

Crimson
04-25-2015, 12:41 AM
I'll wait and see. But at least he needs the drawn on smile, not a big fan of the tats either.

drave
04-25-2015, 11:19 AM
Suicide Squad: Starring Marilyn Manson as The Joker :|

drave
04-25-2015, 03:28 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iRPyor18--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1224600085480277931.jpg

Rammsteinmad
04-25-2015, 05:34 PM
Anyone know will this Suicide Squad movie be tied in to Batman vs. Superman?

The Mask
04-25-2015, 05:43 PM
I'm convinced this film is going to tank based on that picture alone, I don't think I'd even heard of it before now but it looks so bad that I've been put off seeing it regardless.

Kalyx triaD
04-26-2015, 06:42 AM
Anyone know will this Suicide Squad movie be tied in to Batman vs. Superman?

No. And now that I think about we've yet to get any real confirmation that this is DCcU. It's just kind of implied with that big movie slate dump months ago. Suicide Squad and Shazam, to my knowledge, aren't confirmed to be taking place in the same universe as Man of Steel, BvS, WW, Flash, Aqua Man, and JL.

Unless I forgot some comment from a studio head.

Rammsteinmad
04-26-2015, 07:05 AM
Lol DC.

McLegend
04-26-2015, 07:31 AM
It's the same universe. Ben Affleck and Jessie Eisenherg are heavily rumored to be appearing in the movie as Batman and Lex Luthor.

Vastardikai
04-26-2015, 03:21 PM
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/deathstroke-fold.JPG

Deathstroke is NOT amused.

Sixx
04-26-2015, 03:31 PM
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iRPyor18--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1224600085480277931.jpg

This Joker looks terrible.

Corporate CockSnogger
04-26-2015, 03:59 PM
Good job they tattooed "damaged" on his forehead. I'd have hated for audiences to not know his mental state. Good call DC.

Damian Rey
04-26-2015, 04:01 PM
I'm meh on the tattoos, but face wise I love the look. It's inevitable that Leto will be compared to Ledger at some point, and this is a good start to trying to create a disconnect between the two takes. Kinda like Ledger's look against Nicholson's.

I'll wait till more photos and of course the film comes out.

KIRA
04-26-2015, 04:03 PM
The biggest gripe I have with this is the mouth lips arent red enough so he just looks like some goth kid and there is no drawn on smile its amazing how much extending makeup past the mouth turns a persons grin into this ridiculously uncanny valley looking horror. Leto is just dude in dark lipstick

Sixx
04-26-2015, 04:05 PM
What's with the Michael Jackson glove?

Sixx
04-26-2015, 04:05 PM
Heh, Goth Ham.

Frank Drebin
04-26-2015, 10:41 PM
I'm meh on the tattoos, but face wise I love the look. It's inevitable that Leto will be compared to Ledger at some point, and this is a good start to trying to create a disconnect between the two takes. Kinda like Ledger's look against Nicholson's.

I'll wait till more photos and of course the film comes out.

Yeah this is unfortunately the right attitude to take for now. The Nicholson, Ledger, and now Leto Jokers all have to have different takes on the character. The Ledger Joker wasn't busting into rooms comically dancing to "Party Man" and shouldn't really be directly compared to Nicholson's. Same will go for this one.

That being said, I have yet to hear one opinion strongly positive about this look. Kinda surprised they put only this character up for exhibition. Usually they wait as long as possible before showing off the big bad for a movie like this.

Kalyx triaD
04-26-2015, 10:49 PM
Unless he isn't the big bad.

Naturally I'd guess he'll be a wild card in the way of the plot's main mission, tied to his past relationship with Harley. I'm betting her connection to him, like the Suicide Squad animated movie, will be cause for some... complications.

Frank Drebin
04-26-2015, 10:55 PM
True, but while he may not be the big bad, he and maybe Hatley Quinn are the two most anticipated looks. Maybe this is a way to get everyone to stop only talking about Joker and try to get them to move on to other characters.

rad dggy dg
04-27-2015, 12:32 PM
Good job they tattooed "damaged" on his forehead. I'd have hated for audiences to not know his mental state. Good call DC.

I don't give a rat's whistle for pete's sake

the only thing damaged is the relationship between me and my son and that has been caused by this place

rad dggy dg
04-27-2015, 12:33 PM
hi everyone its me rad dggy dg i forgot to introduce myself

Sixx
04-27-2015, 03:42 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/legendsareborn/news/?a=119502

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B598TngCIAEIYad.jpg:large

Not sure what to make of this.

alvarado52
04-27-2015, 07:33 PM
Would rather see them go the route of the face mask than Hot Topic employee

drave
04-28-2015, 06:45 AM
Looks much more sinister, as if his skin has been peeled back to reveal who he "really is".

I have little doubts that Leto would screw up the acting part, honestly. Still though, the look that was revealed is pretty bad :(

Damian Rey
04-28-2015, 02:25 PM
Apparently the photo released was a tribute for Joker's 75th birthday or some shit. So remove the tats and there you have it.

Rammsteinmad
04-28-2015, 02:43 PM
To be fair, a lot of those comments are ridiculous. Obviously nobody learned anything when everybody slated Heath Ledger to be the Joker last time around.

I don't mind the look of the Joker here, I'm just not interested generally in the movie itself. Another DC movie using the same characters we've already seen (Joker) which will probably be dark and gloomy. Yep.

KIRA
04-28-2015, 03:44 PM
To be fair, a lot of those comments are ridiculous. Obviously nobody learned anything when everybody slated Heath Ledger to be the Joker last time around.

I don't mind the look of the Joker here, I'm just not interested generally in the movie itself. Another DC movie using the same characters we've already seen (Joker) which will probably be dark and gloomy. Yep.

I'm betting you don't even know who most of the suicide squad is or what they do.

I'd rather be serious than having one liners and endless quiping (talking to you age of ultron) all over the place

But Since Harley Joker and Capt boomerang are in there will be some humor albeit dark humor


On another note I know the Part is cast but I wouldve lost it if they actually got CCH Pounder to be Waller they wouldve had to get rid of my smile with surgery.

Sixx
04-28-2015, 03:58 PM
To be fair, a lot of those comments are ridiculous. Obviously nobody learned anything when everybody slated Heath Ledger to be the Joker last time around.


If I remember right, people had issues with Heath Ledger as an actor (gay cowboy and whatnot), not the look of his Joker. Here, most people don't doubt Jared Leto can act, they just think that first photo of him as Joker is fucking awful.

Kalyx triaD
04-28-2015, 05:52 PM
Batfleck will appear. At least as Bruce Wayne revealed in set photos.

drave
04-29-2015, 07:26 AM
Batfleck.

I fucking hate whoever came up with that stupid ass name. Like all the celebrity name mashups or whatever. Fuck that and the twat who came up with it.

Kalyx triaD
04-29-2015, 02:38 PM
Batfleck Returns

Damian Rey
04-29-2015, 03:27 PM
Batfleck Forever

drave
04-29-2015, 03:33 PM
Buncha basement dwelling twats up in here

Kalyx triaD
04-29-2015, 03:35 PM
Miami don't have basements.

drave
04-29-2015, 03:50 PM
LIES!

They have so many basements they have a mafuckin night club named after the feature :shifty:

drave
04-29-2015, 03:52 PM
http://www.editionhotels.com/media/W1siZiIsImYxNmI1NWM5L0Jhc2VtZW50LU1pYW1pLTExNjV4NTgzLmpwZyJdLFsicCIsInRodW1iIiwiMTE2NXgiXV0/Basement-Miami-1165x583.jpg?sha=a4303e64d148a849

Kalyx triaD
04-29-2015, 03:53 PM
WAT U KNO BOUT DAT BASEMENT

drave
04-29-2015, 06:15 PM
GETTIN WAVY N DAT BASEMENT!

Lock Jaw
05-03-2015, 09:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEHeJU3WAAA5H0S.jpg:large

Damian Rey
05-03-2015, 09:04 PM
http://i1.wp.com/batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Suicide-Squad-Cast-Photo.jpg?w=800&quality=85&strip=info

Official Suicide Squad roster photo. Gotta say, I'm in love with Margot Robbie.

https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-0/11178299_800657373387546_3551267762648757852_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c1d92abd288f66a5ef5450f46310fbd3&oe=55E35311

Will Smith in full Deadshot garb.

Lock Jaw
05-03-2015, 09:07 PM
From left to right, the characters pictured are Slipknot (Adam Beach), Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney), Enchantress (Cara Delevingne), Katana (Karen Fukuhara), Rick Flagg (Joel Kinnaman), Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie), Deadshot (Will Smith), Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje), and El Diablo (Jay Hernandez).

Kalyx triaD
05-03-2015, 09:19 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

Vastardikai
05-03-2015, 09:55 PM
Killer Croc looks awesome.

El Diablo, unfortunately, looks like he attended Nuke 'Em High.

slik
05-03-2015, 10:45 PM
I like it.

Killer Croc and Harley Quinn both look really good. I've been wanting Killer Croc in a live-action film for a while. When Tom Hardy was rumored for TDKR I was kind of hoping he would play Croc, who in a Nolan Batworld I just assumed would be a guy who tatted his entire body like a crocodile.

Frank Drebin
05-04-2015, 12:14 AM
Alright...I'm overloaded on this movie already and it doesn't even come out for a decade. Wondering why they're blowing their load on all the "fun" stuff so early in the process. Seems like the right thing to do is to keep people guessing on what their favorite characters look like and time releases like this at a point when everyone isn't going to see The Avengers.

KIRA
05-04-2015, 12:44 AM
Alright...I'm overloaded on this movie already and it doesn't even come out for a decade. Wondering why they're blowing their load on all the "fun" stuff so early in the process. Seems like the right thing to do is to keep people guessing on what their favorite characters look like and time releases like this at a point when everyone isn't going to see The Avengers.

I don't even know what to say :love::love::love::love::love::love::love::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::D:D:D:D:D:D
ALSO KATANA!:heart:

Kalyx triaD
05-04-2015, 03:31 AM
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11188428_373916362809234_6930739680065598023_n.jpg?oh=a9d8c0f07fc11d97449817dd59a5e179&oe=55E31A3E

Sixx
05-18-2015, 11:27 AM
Set photos and videos of Joker and Harley

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=120685

Sixx
05-18-2015, 05:33 PM
More of Leto's Joker

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709

Looks shit.

Kalyx triaD
05-18-2015, 06:51 PM
Niiiiice

Fignuts
05-18-2015, 08:15 PM
I dunno

Hope I'm wrong, but this looks like a bad 90's movie to me.

Kalyx triaD
05-18-2015, 08:44 PM
Do I have to give the 'set pics' speech again, boys?

Fignuts
05-18-2015, 09:03 PM
RELAX

I'm not passing final judgement or anything.

Kalyx triaD
05-18-2015, 09:10 PM
I won't and you were.

KIRA
05-18-2015, 09:17 PM
I said it before there really is no pleasing you people.

I've heard it all wah Deadshot's mask is white wah his eyepiece is on the wrong side

wah the joker has tattoos the tattoos aren't real and he looks shitty

"Harley quinn isn't dressed like herself shes wearing a shirt not her full costume
Why didn't they get the girl who played katana on arrow?"

Wah why is Bruce Wayne in this(ok that was me)

I mean fuck! What more do you want?

Fignuts
05-18-2015, 11:17 PM
omfg calm down. They are passing comments based on pictures. Can't fucking help what it looks like to me.

The trailer could come out, and be super good, and I'll be on board.

Again. Not a final judgement.

Tom Guycott
05-18-2015, 11:29 PM
To me, the thing that seems "off" about any of it is that for as much as they are differentiating Movieverse and TV 'verse, Captain Boomerang looks almost exactly the same in both.

Corporate CockSnogger
05-19-2015, 12:58 AM
Wow! Joker looks so crazy. So demented. Almost, I dunno... damaged? Not sure everyone will get that though, they could do with making it a little more obvious. Hmm.

Emperor Smeat
05-19-2015, 01:20 AM
The new Joker sort of looks like Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone series in some of those shots.

alvarado52
05-19-2015, 02:07 AM
So the Joker is a pimp? Or a crime lord?

Sixx
05-19-2015, 03:26 AM
I said it before there really is no pleasing you people.

I've heard it all wah Deadshot's mask is white wah his eyepiece is on the wrong side

wah the joker has tattoos the tattoos aren't real and he looks shitty

"Harley quinn isn't dressed like herself shes wearing a shirt not her full costume
Why didn't they get the girl who played katana on arrow?"

Wah why is Bruce Wayne in this(ok that was me)

I mean fuck! What more do you want?

The real problem with Deadshot is not what the mask looks like, but how long does he actually wear it. I mean, they hired a famous actor so I'm guessing he'll get the Dredd Stallone treatment.

Destor
05-19-2015, 04:52 AM
I will reserve judgement until i see a trailer but right now this is a pass for me. Hopefully a trailers sells it for me.

Corporate CockSnogger
05-19-2015, 02:52 PM
Oh good. The Joker's car has the licence plate "HAHAHA"

I wasn't sure people were going to get that he likes to laugh. Good call DC.

Lock Jaw
05-19-2015, 02:59 PM
Yeah, total BS on that car....

Should look like this...

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140414233341/joker/images/6/69/Jokermobile.jpeg

drave
05-19-2015, 04:48 PM
omfg calm down. They are passing comments based on pictures. Can't fucking help what it looks like to me.

The trailer could come out, and be super good, and I'll be on board.

Again. Not a final judgement.


2nd this. Looks shit, hopefully is better on film.

Kalyx triaD
05-28-2015, 02:51 PM
http://i.imgur.com/id3l9E4.jpg

Seeing more Batman in this than the movie he's actually starring in.

Black Widow
05-28-2015, 04:56 PM
My hopes are low but hopefully it exceeds expectations.

KIRA
05-28-2015, 07:58 PM
I'm really hoping Batmans involvement will be similar to how Assault on Arkham played out where he crosses paths with the Squad but is mainly in the background.

Wishbone
06-06-2015, 04:09 AM
As the world's biggest Harley Quinn and Joker fanboy, and a big fan of Suicide Squad as well I can thoroughly state that these designs are garbage. Yes, I'm giving final judgement based on set picture, and, no, I don't care how good the acting is. This movie looks aesthetically awful. Like Batman and Robin awful. That is my honest opinion. What, wanna fight about it?

Sixx
07-11-2015, 08:24 PM
Leaked CC trailer

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=122711

No surprise, Deathstroke barely ever has his mask on because he's the Fresh Prince.

Kalyx triaD
07-11-2015, 08:43 PM
Deadshot. And even in Arrow and the animated movie he went a good deal without his mask. You know this because I recall you seeing and commenting on those appearances. Why you disregard what you already know to make some point about Will Smith's face brand is odd.

Sixx
07-11-2015, 09:12 PM
Deadshot. And even in Arrow and the animated movie he went a good deal without his mask. You know this because I recall you seeing and commenting on those appearances. Why you disregard what you already know to make some point about Will Smith's face brand is odd.

You havin' your period? You seem very angry with me or something. And no, I do not know this, please quote me then, because maybe I just don't remember.

Kalyx triaD
07-11-2015, 09:26 PM
I'm pretty sure you seen the Suicide Squad animated movie and Arrow episodes. And barring that, name a Deadshot appearance where he was masked the whole time. I can't think of any. In fact now that I recall, he barely wears the damn thing.

That in mind, seems you really wanted to say something about Will's face.

Lock Jaw
07-11-2015, 09:39 PM
There's a Suicide Squad animated movie?

Wishbone
07-12-2015, 02:24 AM
There's a Suicide Squad animated movie?

Yeah, it's called Assault on Arkham. Pretty cool movie if you haven't seen it.

Lock Jaw
07-12-2015, 02:28 AM
Oh, thought that was a Batman movie... haven't seen it either way....

Sixx
07-12-2015, 05:39 AM
I'm pretty sure you seen the Suicide Squad animated movie and Arrow episodes. And barring that, name a Deadshot appearance where he was masked the whole time. I can't think of any. In fact now that I recall, he barely wears the damn thing.

That in mind, seems you really wanted to say something about Will's face.

Actually, no, I've seen probably like 5 Arrow episodes and never seen animated Suicide Squad. And you make it sound like I have something against Will Smith, which I don't. Deadshot just seems to be getting the Stallone Dredd treatment (yes, I'm repeating myself) to me. Even if he doesn't always wear the maskin other media, I think, judging by the trailer at least, he's not wearing it enough here. And that actually makes sense because when you cast big names like Smith you probably want to show their mug as much as possible. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Wishbone
07-12-2015, 06:22 AM
Oh, thought that was a Batman movie... haven't seen it either way....

Batman's in it but he's pretty much a background character. He shows up a couple times to fuck with the Suicide Squad's mission and that's really about it. I'd definitely recommend checking it out if you haven't, man. It's not the best DC animated movie, but it's an awesome ride.

Kalyx triaD
07-12-2015, 02:57 PM
Most superhero movies have most the actor's time out of the mask.

alvarado52
07-13-2015, 03:04 AM
Yknow, in my head, I always saw Brittany Murphy playing the perfect Harley Quinn...alas, it will remain so only in my head.

McLegend
07-13-2015, 05:24 PM
The trailer has been officially released due to the leaks, and seems to be getting "mad" positive reviews across the world.

We shall see if that holds up.

alvarado52
07-13-2015, 05:24 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WI3hecGO_04" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sixx
07-13-2015, 05:37 PM
Yknow, in my head, I always saw Brittany Murphy playing the perfect Harley Quinn...alas, it will remain so only in my head.

That Margot Robbie girl seems to be doing a helluva job, judging by the trailer.

The Destroyer
07-13-2015, 05:53 PM
I kinda like the look of it.

Lock Jaw
07-13-2015, 07:43 PM
I will reserve my judgement on this one.... Still not crazy about Joker's "look"....

Damian Rey
07-13-2015, 08:03 PM
I could deal with the tats if they kept his face clean. But as always, not overly tied to any incarnation, and this looks like it could decent.

I will say, I love that this film looks nothing like BvS.

Sixx
07-13-2015, 08:03 PM
Looks too "modern" or something. The tats, the "grill" or whatever that is in his mouth.

Hard to tell about his whole persona from the trailer, but the look is terrible imho.

Wishbone
07-13-2015, 08:23 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WI3hecGO_04" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That trailer literally did the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do. Instead of getting me hyped it literally caused my hype levels to retreat into the negatives. In fact it was so bad that it took away some of the hype I had for other movies that are coming up. Well, at least now I can officially wash my hands of any and all DC live action movies going forward. At least until the next inevitable reboot in 10 to 15 years...

Blonde Moment
07-13-2015, 08:38 PM
That trailer literally did the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do. Instead of getting me hyped it literally caused my hype levels to retreat into the negatives. In fact it was so bad that it took away some of the hype I had for other movies that are coming up. Well, at least now I can officially wash my hands of any and all DC live action movies going forward. At least until the next inevitable reboot in 10 to 15 years...

I have to say it did absolutely nothing for me as well. They would have done better introuducing these characters in other movies or on TV first. i feel nothing for any of them

Damian Rey
07-13-2015, 09:07 PM
Washing your hands? Hasn't even come out yet. I know and understand your hesitation, Wishbone. But I'd at least encourage you to wait for its critical reception.

Wishbone
07-13-2015, 10:06 PM
Washing your hands? Hasn't even come out yet. I know and understand your hesitation, Wishbone. But I'd at least encourage you to wait for its critical reception.

Not interested in critical reception. Plenty of people liked Man of Steel and it was completely underwhelming in my eyes. I can already tell that I won't like this movie simply from the trailer.

The costumes are god awful to the point that I couldn't stand even looking at Joker. Oh, and that laugh... That lazy, lazy laugh... And what they've done to Harley... (shudders) I can't even begin to tell you how painful that was for one of the world's biggest Harley fans. She was basically all the bad things about New 52 Harley without any of the good.

And I know it's a small gripe but I'm not gonna hold back on it because you know what it matters. Harley has to have the accent. You take away the accent and you've failed, period. Even if they'd gotten everything else right that one detail would have killed it. I know it's petty of me, but I don't care. Fuck whoever decided not to do it. If Chaning Tatum can take lessons to get Gambit's thick Cajun accent right this chick can learn to do Harley's.

The few lines spoken here were also just... bad. It's possible they just chose the worst lines in the movie to display here, but if that's the case then whoever made the trailer needs to learn how to do trailers right because normally you choose good lines for a trailer to help lure people in. And if those were what pass for "good" lines in this movie then the script is likely going to be awful.

Anyway after seeing both of the DC trailers now I can wholeheartedly say that I am not only unimpressed, but I'm damn near offended honestly. I know mainstream media and fans are going to love this movie, and, hell, I'm not gonna blame them. People should enjoy what they want, and honestly as a DC fan (or maybe I should say former fan with the state of the movies and comics right now...) I want to like this. I just can't. I hate everything about it. In my honest opinion it looks like garbage of the highest (lowest?) caliber. In short, DC and Warner Brothers can suck a bag of dicks. Well, except their animation department and Bruce Tim... Those are good people for bringing us the Killing Joke animated movie.

/end long ass rant post

Black Widow
07-13-2015, 10:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MVq7cJ8.gif

If only that pole was something else.

Fignuts
07-13-2015, 10:18 PM
You're right that the accent seems like such a minor thing for Harley, but I've heard the character use it in animated form for so long that even when I read comics I instinctivly read her dialogue with the accent. So to hear her without it does feel somewhat off.

And yeah, new 52 Harley sucks

As for the trailer, it doesn't really do anything for me either way. Not good, not bad. It is something that exists.

Wishbone
07-13-2015, 10:19 PM
Given the "Rotten" tattoo next to her mouth I'm not sure I'd want to risk sticking my Wish"Boner" in there.

Wishbone
07-13-2015, 10:19 PM
I apologize completely for that awful, awful pun I just made. I fully accept responsibility for any damages it may have caused.

Wishbone
07-13-2015, 10:21 PM
You're right that the accent seems like such a minor thing for Harley, but I've heard the character use it in animated form for so long that even when I read comics I instinctivly read her dialogue with the accent. So to hear her without it does feel somewhat off.

And yeah, new 52 Harley sucks

As for the trailer, it doesn't really do anything for me either way. Not good, not bad. It is something that exists.

I have that problem with the Joker and Batman in comics. Always read in Kevin Conroy's and Mark Hamill's voice's respectively without even meaning to.

Kalyx triaD
07-13-2015, 10:53 PM
I'm still hoping foolishly that Harley retains her accent. It might be one of those things that just got subtle in translation. I don't think the 'druggie pixie dreamgirl' voice is bad or not fitting, it's just that Harley accent is one of those things I would have prioritized with the actress even before costume fitting.

Tom Guycott
07-13-2015, 10:58 PM
Batman's in it but he's pretty much a background character. He shows up a couple times to fuck with the Suicide Squad's mission and that's really about it. I'd definitely recommend checking it out if you haven't, man. It's not the best DC animated movie, but it's an awesome ride.

Yahtzee!!

Simple Fan
07-13-2015, 11:03 PM
Looks like a good movie Leto seems like a good Joker.

slik
07-13-2015, 11:42 PM
Looks like a good movie Leto seems like a good Joker.

Agreed

Sixx
07-14-2015, 05:12 AM
I apologize completely for that awful, awful pun I just made. I fully accept responsibility for any damages it may have caused.

10 minute time-out, young man.

Damian Rey
07-14-2015, 09:13 AM
Man of Steel was actually not critically well received. Fans and the general audiences liked it, but from a critical standpoint it was not considered to be a strong film.

The accent gripe is 100% spot on. That's probably the only thing I took away from the trailer that bothered me. Like Kalyx mentioned, maybe it was lost in translation for the trailer.

The director is coming off the ensemble film "Fury", and also is credited for "End of Watch", both being well received. So I have hope. I do think Harley should have an accent, but it's not make or break for me. We shall see.

And don't apologize for that pun. Well time and well placed.

Rhinestonecowboy
07-15-2015, 12:35 AM
I had my reservations about this movie,especially after the horrible 90's makeover joker pics were released, but after watching the trailer, I think I'll give the film a chance. Still not sold on the joker look,but I can let it slide if leto's performance is good.

Rammsteinmad
07-16-2015, 05:10 AM
Going solely by that trailer, this film looks shit.

Fignuts
07-16-2015, 06:50 PM
Everything is shit to you, though.

Wishbone
07-16-2015, 07:44 PM
That may be, but I agree with him so >:P

Crimson
07-18-2015, 01:10 AM
Don't see why Harley and Joker need facial tattoos. Joker looks like a tranny with the red lipstick.

Hope its a good movie though, Leto will do great I'm sure

Kalyx triaD
07-18-2015, 05:08 AM
It would seem Harley simply draws on her face. Her face is clean in some shots.

Corporate CockSnogger
07-18-2015, 11:35 AM
Margot Robbie aside, this looks shit.

But she'd make a KKK robe look good.

Sepholio
08-10-2015, 09:08 AM
So Leto posted a picture of his shadow on the ground and he appears to be wearing a similar outfit to what Joker was wearing in the infamous death scene in The Killing Joke.

Obviously no one knows if it means anything, but the possibility of at least parts of The Killing Joke occurring within the framework of this movie has me a tad bit stiff in the nether regions.

Sixx
08-10-2015, 09:17 AM
So Leto posted a picture of his shadow on the ground and he appears to be wearing a similar outfit to what Joker was wearing in the infamous death scene in The Killing Joke.

Obviously no one knows if it means anything, but the possibility of at least parts of The Killing Joke occurring within the framework of this movie has me a tad bit stiff in the nether regions.

What death scene in The Killing Joke?

Sepholio
08-10-2015, 09:20 AM
not death scene, but shooting, my mistake.

Sixx
08-10-2015, 09:24 AM
Ah.

Well, I saw said photo, but I don't think it means anything really. Leto is a tease, like that pic:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/625/0/1/jared-leto-joker-a207c.jpg

But we'll see.

Lock Jaw
01-20-2016, 12:12 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/v3OZ0eOTLTU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pretty sweet trailer, actually....

Damian Rey
01-20-2016, 12:14 AM
Have to say that it looks like it could a pretty fun movie. I didn't hear Harley's accent so I'm sure we'll hear bitching but overall it looks like it could be a blast.

Leto laughing in that tux tho.

Disturbed316
01-20-2016, 01:07 AM
Looks fun, don't think it will be as amazing as the concept should be though.

Malfeitor
01-20-2016, 01:18 AM
What a time to be alive.

slik
01-20-2016, 01:53 AM
Fantastic trailer.

Has the same tone to it as GOTG, which is a good thing. Looks like a blast.

Fignuts
01-21-2016, 01:34 AM
Harley without the accent still irks me, but having grown up with the animated series, it's pretty much ingrained into me. Probably won't bother most other people.

Regardless, looks like a cool movie. Will likely enjoy it.

Wishbone
01-21-2016, 01:54 AM
Just can't see what people are seeing in this... Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I felt like all the "humor" was really forced, and Margot Robbie just came off as... bad. Will Smith even seemed to be just phoning it in. The whole trailer felt like they were trying to ape Guardians of the Galaxy, and to me it felt like they failed. :-\

Fignuts
01-21-2016, 02:01 AM
I dunno dude. Just looks fun.

Wishbone
01-21-2016, 02:08 AM
Meh, just don't see it. Everything is just so ugly, and none of the actors with speaking lines in the trailer were worth a damn. Normally I can see why people like something even when I myself don't like it, but with this one I honestly can't see it. It's an enigma to me. Like I've seen tons of movies do exactly what this one is doing and get panned before the trailer even came out yet this one is getting a pass? Why? I don't get people anymore...

mitchables
01-21-2016, 04:22 AM
Harley without the accent still irks me, but having grown up with the animated series, it's pretty much ingrained into me. Probably won't bother most other people.

Regardless, looks like a cool movie. Will likely enjoy it.

my fiancee watched the trailer and immediately was like "...where is harley's accent?"

she was incensed, having a long-standing love of the character

so it's not just you

but i agree, it mostly looks ok

i am hoping that the joker is not actually part of the squad; in no reality could i conceive him taking orders from anyone, even amanda waller, so i hope he's actually a wild card working against them to try and get harley out

still not sold on his look, though leto's characterisation doesn't seem as awful as it could've been. will still hold off judgment until i have seen the film in full. but the physical presentation still irks me. i know a lot of other people like it/have grown to deal with it, and i've certainly *softened* on it, but the closest he reminds me of any 'iconic' depiction of joker is when he's wearing the tux. reminds me of that well-known alex ross painting a bunch.

mitchables
01-21-2016, 04:22 AM
you probably know it anyway but this one:
http://supermantv.net/art/data/media/62/alex_ross_joker.jpg

Fignuts
01-21-2016, 04:57 AM
Meh, just don't see it. Everything is just so ugly, and none of the actors with speaking lines in the trailer were worth a damn. Normally I can see why people like something even when I myself don't like it, but with this one I honestly can't see it. It's an enigma to me. Like I've seen tons of movies do exactly what this one is doing and get panned before the trailer even came out yet this one is getting a pass? Why? I don't get people anymore...

I don't feel like I absolutely have to go see it, but the action and characters look interesting enoughthat it looks like it could be a fun watch, especially as a comic fan.

Some of your criticisms may be valid but so what? This isn't a performance art piece, it's a popcorn flick. That's not to say a popcorn flick can't be held to a higher standard, but myself and I think others are at least able to relax our inner critic and look foward to this film for what it is.

Sixx
01-21-2016, 08:32 AM
looks fun enough to me

Sixx
01-21-2016, 08:33 AM
and well, i don't really have any expectations so i won't be disappointed in any case

drave
01-21-2016, 09:32 AM
I get where diehard fans are bitching about the "accent" as it seems a central part to the character. However, if things are played well, the accent can be overlooked.

Still very skeptical about the Leto Joker though. The laugh where he was laying in the middle of all the blades sounded great, still waiting to see how the character is done though.

Lock Jaw
01-21-2016, 09:41 AM
I don't really care about the accent because, I mean, it already looks nothing like MY Harley Quinn. The pre-reboot version. So whatever.

Rammsteinmad
01-21-2016, 11:39 AM
Looks fun enough, but I'm mostly with Wishbone on this one. I'm kinda "bored" of the Joker, and I've never understood the appeal of Harley Quin. Don't really care for the rest of the characters.

I'll go see it anyway, since I'm a comic fan (mostly Marvel), but as other people have said, this just looks like a typical dark and gloomy DC version of Guardians of the Galaxy.

road doggy dogg
01-21-2016, 01:13 PM
is Will smith gonna win an Oscar for this movie

drave
01-21-2016, 01:16 PM
He is boycotting, so he won't be there anyway.

road doggy dogg
01-21-2016, 01:17 PM
RIP

Wishbone
01-21-2016, 01:21 PM
This Oscar boycott nonsense is bullshit. Maybe if Will Smith stopped picking bad films for himself and stopped trying to make them family affairs his ass could actually win something.

drave
01-21-2016, 01:43 PM
#BETLivesMatter

Kalyx triaD
01-21-2016, 01:58 PM
Harley's accent isn't make or break for me but it would have been nice. She seems intact otherwise. Joker is Joker. I mean we can't wait just line him up with TDK Joker because he's almost out of context. We are never getting something like that again with Joker. Moving on.

Sixx
01-21-2016, 02:15 PM
is Will smith gonna win an Oscar for this movie

if he didn't win for Afterearth, he doesn't stand a chance now

Wishbone
01-21-2016, 04:14 PM
Harley's accent isn't make or break for me but it would have been nice. She seems intact otherwise. Joker is Joker. I mean we can't wait just line him up with TDK Joker because he's almost out of context. We are never getting something like that again with Joker. Moving on.

TDK Joker was great and all, but I wish people would stop using it as the benchmark for a good representation of the Joker. Honestly Jack Nicholson was the closest we've ever gotten to a true adaptation of the Joker in a movie, and even he wasn't as accurate as he could have been. TDK Joker was an amazing character, but he lacked a lot of what makes the Joker the Joker. Of course the Nolan films as a whole lacked a lot of what makes the Batman mythos the Batman mythos so it's no surprise that its Joker wouldn't quite hit it.

As for Leto's Joker, well, it is probably the farthest from the character we've ever seen in terms of presentation. He doesn't fit the more modern psycho monster Joker, but he doesn't fit the old school Clown Prince of Crime Joker either. Yeah, his performance might end up being decent (though given what we've seen from other characters I'm not holding my breath), but the look is just god awful. How can anyone justify that? It'd be like having Superman start rocking Jordans and wearing a big ass chain around his neck. If you're into hip-hop culture that's fine, but it has no place with these characters, period.

Reavant
01-21-2016, 07:59 PM
Just can't see what people are seeing in this... there's something wrong with me

fixed
TDK Joker was great and all, but I wish people would stop using it as the benchmark for a good representation of the Joker. Honestly Jack Nicholson was the closest we've ever gotten to a true adaptation of the Joker in a movie, and even he wasn't as accurate as he could have been. TDK Joker was an amazing character, but he lacked a lot of what makes the Joker the Joker. Of course the Nolan films as a whole lacked a lot of what makes the Batman mythos the Batman mythos so it's no surprise that its Joker wouldn't quite hit it.

As for Leto's Joker, well, it is probably the farthest from the character we've ever seen in terms of presentation. He doesn't fit the more modern psycho monster Joker, but he doesn't fit the old school Clown Prince of Crime Joker either. Yeah, his performance might end up being decent (though given what we've seen from other characters I'm not holding my breath), but the look is just god awful. How can anyone justify that? It'd be like having Superman start rocking Jordans and wearing a big ass chain around his neck. If you're into hip-hop culture that's fine, but it has no place with these characters, period.

Hip-hop has NO PLACE in MY JOKER!!!

Get out of here Rush Limbaugh

People said the look was awful for TDK version too. People HERE hated it and look how that turned out. Plus given the rumors around this, it might not even BE the Joker... at least not the first one.

Sixx
01-21-2016, 09:32 PM
i haven't heard any rumors like that

what exactly were they sayin?

Kalyx triaD
01-21-2016, 09:48 PM
The Jason Todd swerve.

Lock Jaw
01-21-2016, 10:01 PM
All baseless speculation without any sort of evidence at all

Kalyx triaD
01-21-2016, 10:09 PM
Hence the term 'rumor'. lol

McLegend
01-21-2016, 10:16 PM
That would be interesting.

I also haven't heard that rumor... FYI

Lock Jaw
01-21-2016, 10:17 PM
No.... Rumours have some basis in fact.... speculation is just some guy wildly saying "hey, how about this?"

mitchables
01-21-2016, 10:33 PM
i thought there was something to do with scars on the joker's shoulders that match bullet holes in the robin costume in the bat cave? feel like there was at least some kind of "evidence" presented for it

either way, fucking hate the idea

McLegend
01-21-2016, 10:39 PM
Feathers tattoo on his arm or shoulder thing that "links" them as well.

mitchables
01-21-2016, 10:48 PM
really? duuuuumb

Reavant
01-21-2016, 10:59 PM
All baseless speculation without any sort of evidence at all

not exactly baseless...

Kalyx triaD
01-21-2016, 11:02 PM
No.... Rumours have some basis in fact.... speculation is just some guy wildly saying "hey, how about this?"

That is so not how rumors work. I never even heard of rumors described this way. Ever. All my years here I never heard of a distinction between rumors and speculation. You are the first.

You are... The Progenitor.

Kalyx triaD
01-21-2016, 11:38 PM
Nah you're kinda right I was just tired and hungry.

alvarado52
01-22-2016, 12:11 AM
I believe the Jason Todd/Joker rumor began with the "J" tattoo on his face and the similarity to the "J" branding in the game...two properties that are not and should not be connected in any way, shape, or form.

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 01:00 AM
fixed


Hip-hop has NO PLACE in MY JOKER!!!

Get out of here Rush Limbaugh

People said the look was awful for TDK version too. People HERE hated it and look how that turned out. Plus given the rumors around this, it might not even BE the Joker... at least not the first one.

Lol "Rush Limbaugh" :rofl: You're one of the most ridiculous people I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something. You continue to amaze me every time you post or reply to me. Never change, bro. :y:

And honestly I could care less what people "here" thought of TDK's Joker. This forum is a mixed bag with some of the oddest (not necessarily worst mind you) opinions I've ever seen on the internet. IRL I've never met a person who thought TDK Joker looked bad after seeing the reveal of it. A couple people I know did say it looked a little forced with the smudged facepaint and ratty hair, but for the most part people were hugely surprised by how good it looked after they had bitched about Ledger's casting, something I didn't do for Ledger or Leto's casting because honestly the casting doesn't matter. Who'd have thought that Luke Skywalker would turn out to be the most iconic Joker voice of all time after all? But we're past casting now. We've seen the actual look. If you honestly don't think there's something wrong with that costume then you're an idiot, period. Even people who are supporting the movie have said that the costume is shit.

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 01:05 AM
Also that "rumor" about it being Jason Todd is bullocks. Even if it does turn out to be true, which I'd be willing to bet it won't, it's still probably the dumbest thing DC could have done. Well, not really I guess. DC's live action films have already done waaaaay too much dumb shit to ever say any single act is "the worst they've ever done" at this point. What was once a series of small disasters is now a mega disaster of epic proportions lol.

drave
01-22-2016, 07:02 AM
I know they aren't sticking to "canon" - but wasn't Jason Todd killed off by The Joker in the comics in the 80's?

Blonde Moment
01-22-2016, 07:05 AM
I know they aren't sticking to "canon" - but wasn't Jason Todd killed off by The Joker in the comics in the 80's?

Yep, it was a pretty nasty end

drave
01-22-2016, 07:55 AM
So, without the whole Superboy thing, how could that rumor have any substance?

Fignuts
01-22-2016, 09:04 AM
He was brought back as an antagonist in the comics as well.

drave
01-22-2016, 09:06 AM
Right, but brought back only because of what Superboy did with the whole alternate reality thing?

Maybe I am remembering it wrong.

Lock Jaw
01-22-2016, 10:46 AM
Think that Superboy thing was retconned pretty quick to be just "Lazarus pit"

drave
01-22-2016, 11:20 AM
Oh..... pfft.

Icame4Hookers
01-22-2016, 01:44 PM
The trailer looked awful, the only thing they did right was using Queens song.

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 04:41 PM
Right, but brought back only because of what Superboy did with the whole alternate reality thing?

Maybe I am remembering it wrong.

Yeah, they retconned that to it just being the Lazarus Pit that brought him back.

Reavant
01-22-2016, 08:46 PM
And honestly I could care less what people "here" thought of TDK's Joker. This forum is a mixed bag with some of the oddest (not necessarily worst mind you) opinions I've ever seen on the internet. IRL I've never met a person who thought TDK Joker looked bad after seeing the reveal of it. A couple people I know did say it looked a little forced with the smudged facepaint and ratty hair, but for the most part people were hugely surprised by how good it looked after they had bitched about Ledger's casting, something I didn't do for Ledger or Leto's casting because honestly the casting doesn't matter. Who'd have thought that Luke Skywalker would turn out to be the most iconic Joker voice of all time after all? But we're past casting now. We've seen the actual look. If you honestly don't think there's something wrong with that costume then you're an idiot, period. Even people who are supporting the movie have said that the costume is shit.


well like everything else you dont experience "IRL"...

Simple Fan
01-22-2016, 08:59 PM
The trailer looked awful, the only thing they did right was using Queens song.

Not enough hookers I guess.

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 09:49 PM
well like everything else you dont experience "IRL"...

Considering the only people I've ever heard bitch about TDK Joker's look are a few diehards on comic book forums and Youtube, and now apparently you I'm inclined to believe that only muties like yourself thought it looked bad.

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 09:50 PM
The trailer looked awful, the only thing they did right was using Queens song.

I'd be inclined to agree with you but A) you're you and B) I didn't like the choice of song honestly.

Reavant
01-22-2016, 10:25 PM
Considering the only people I've ever heard bitch about TDK Joker's look are a few diehards on comic book forums and Youtube, and now apparently you I'm inclined to believe that only muties like yourself thought it looked bad.

Actually I liked the look... I was referencing your virginity

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 10:35 PM
Actually I liked the look... I was referencing your virginity

Oh come on now you can do better than that. I mean the "you're a virgin" card is sooooo overplayed. Where's the homophobic comment? What about talking down to me by calling me "kiddo?" Poor form, dude. 3/10

Don't give up though. You can get better at this. I Bo-lieve in you. :y:

drave
01-22-2016, 10:37 PM
Pillow biting dick licking Faggot.

Wish granted

drave
01-22-2016, 10:37 PM
#meanestPoster 2016

mitchables
01-22-2016, 10:40 PM
So, without the whole Superboy thing, how could that rumor have any substance?

He was brought back as an antagonist in the comics as well.

let's not totally ignore the arkham knight option too, where joker didn't actually kill Jason but tormented him and broke him mentally to turn him against batman - not out of the realm of possibility that they'd just rip that idea off too to explain it. like joker kidnaps jason, makes bruce believe he is dead but in reality is keeping him somewhere, convincing him that batman doesn't care enough to save him, that joker's the only one who really gives a shit about him, something happens to joker, jason swears to avenge him by taking up the mantle etc

i'm not saying that would be any better bc i still hate the concept of jason as joker but it's a plausible road for them to take

Wishbone
01-22-2016, 10:44 PM
Pillow biting dick licking Faggot.

Wish granted

You forgot the "kiddo" part, but I'll excuse it since you were creative enough to add the "pillow biting" part. 9/10 :y:

Reavant
01-23-2016, 10:53 AM
Oh come on now you can do better than that. I mean the "you're a virgin" card is sooooo overplayed. Where's the homophobic comment? What about talking down to me by calling me "kiddo?" Poor form, dude. 3/10

Don't give up though. You can get better at this. I Bo-lieve in you. :y:

Im sorry I should have been more thorough on the point.... The premise was things you have NOT experienced IRL. You got lost. Its not your fault.

Wishbone
01-23-2016, 02:44 PM
Damn, Reavant, you're not even trying are you? I'm disappointed in you, young man. :(

mitchables
01-23-2016, 06:59 PM
jesus christ children we are TRYING to discuss a movie here

Ruien
01-23-2016, 07:05 PM
Why do people take fun movies and make then so seriouz? It's an action flick. I am sure there are more important things you can be researching rather than if Joker had his makeup a certain way in the 4th remake of the comic books that is the same as this movie.

Ruien
01-23-2016, 07:05 PM
With that said, this movie looks good.

Kris P Lettus
01-25-2016, 04:13 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/l_3sZwgmQTA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bobholly138
01-27-2016, 07:16 PM
Went from really being excited for the film. To after seeing the newest trailer,being were I will wait on Blu ray to see it. Bad enough they got no talent Will Smith in it. But I hate this new look for Harley.

Sixx
03-31-2016, 06:12 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes

REPORT: "Suicide Squad" Undergoing Major Reshoots To Increase Humor

Heh, idiots. Took em a while to understand they were getting gritty to the point of absurd.

Damian Rey 2.0
03-31-2016, 06:28 PM
Yes, because the studio stepping in months before release has always yielded good results. A movie doesn't have to be fun and humorous to be good. It just has to be written, acted abs directed well.

We shall see but this sounds like a fairly bad idea.

Sixx
03-31-2016, 06:42 PM
They just try to emulate Marvel on every step.

This sounds like it was inspired by the success of Deadpool.

Lock Jaw
03-31-2016, 06:52 PM
Apparently they have been doing "massive reshoots" ever since they heard the positive response to the trailer....

Because apparently the trailer didn't really match the "tone" of the movie, and pretty much all the "lighthearted" or "humorous" stuff was literally in the trailer...... so after they heard that people loved the trailer, they started working on trying to make the movie's tone actually match the trailer....

Lock Jaw
03-31-2016, 06:54 PM
Which I guess is what the article Sixx linked basically says. Which is the article I read earlier today.

So, yeah.

Sixx
03-31-2016, 06:54 PM
Oh, I only read the title.

That's how I roll.

Lock Jaw
03-31-2016, 06:55 PM
They just try to emulate Marvel on every step.

This sounds like it was inspired by the success of Deadpool.

I think combo of success of the trailer, success of Deadpool, and the criticisms of Batman v Superman.

Simple Fan
03-31-2016, 07:06 PM
Hope they don't over do it. I like the darker tone to the DC world but a movie with Joker in it should have a good amount of humor. Just hope they don't try to match Marvels cheekyness.

Damian Rey 2.0
03-31-2016, 08:50 PM
I just hope it's not butchered. I could care less about tone so long as it's good. If BvS was a good movie the tone wouldn't be an issue.

Crimson
04-03-2016, 01:34 PM
Yea agree about the tone. Hope they're not overreacting with that. Just make a good fucking movie/story

Destor
04-08-2016, 07:51 PM
Now that BvS have come and gone it is going to take strong positive word of mouth to get me to see this

Kalyx triaD
04-09-2016, 12:07 AM
Because Zack Snyder directed this too.

Damian Rey 2.0
04-09-2016, 01:01 AM
More so because the studio behind this movie just put out a major turd and blatant money grab. It's not going to be uncommon for people to hold off on a movie related to BvS. Warner has to win some fans back.

Mercenary
04-09-2016, 04:04 AM
My excuse to see this. My 7 year old nephew asked me to take him, and I promised him I would.

Destor
04-09-2016, 09:01 AM
More so because the studio behind this movie just put out a major turd and blatant money grab. It's not going to be uncommon for people to hold off on a movie related to BvS. Warner has to win some fans back.

Someone gets it.

Its under the same people. I have the same reservations everytime i see something on it. I have the same people telling me I'll be wrong.

Their franchise got a free purchase from me with BvS despite my better judgement simply because they deserved a fair shake. They dont have that anymore.

Damian Rey 2.0
04-09-2016, 02:08 PM
100%. They were given the benefit of the doubt and proceeded to throw it back in our faces. Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are going to have to be pretty stellar to get the momentum they squandered back.

Lock Jaw
04-09-2016, 05:20 PM
Feel like I'll still rush out to see Wonder Woman because Gal Gadot looks good and I love "wartime pieces", but I am definitely going to hold off on this one until I hear the reactions.

Destor
04-09-2016, 09:07 PM
Im down for wondy in theaters. She was truely the only thing that had me wrapped up in BvS.

Frank Drebin
04-09-2016, 11:14 PM
More so because the studio behind this movie just put out a major turd and blatant money grab. It's not going to be uncommon for people to hold off on a movie related to BvS. Warner has to win some fans back.

I wish there was a term for this. Let's call it "The Goodwill Principle." Fans will give much more leeway with a franchise when the overall product has been largely good and devoid of the feeling of a re-hash or obvious money grab.

They came back after Iron Man 2 because everything done previously was good. Audiences were willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

On the other side of the spectrum, take a look at The Hunger Games. When they split the last book (the shortest of the three) into two movies, it was pretty blatant what they were doing. The audience was already invested in the franchise so they were going to see this thing through, the studio thought. Then they released a movie that was very subpar. Did great in its first weekend, but word of mouth caused there to be a big drop week-to-week. Oh, it made some decent coin, but it was nowhere near the amount that was expected. (Sound familiar?) The fourth movie was also "meh" and made even less money. Any plans for prequels/sequels/spinoffs went out the window. Not even worth a try. Their goose was cooked. It didn't even take a focus group to tell them the franchise was dead.

Warners is in serious trouble. Even a really fun Suicide Squad won't be enough. They need to put a string of films out that really strike a chord with audiences that isn't a carbon copy of Marvel. Thats quite alot to ask for.

Ruien
04-09-2016, 11:24 PM
Can't wait to see Wonder Woman. She was awesome in BvS. Really hope people don't ignore it because it's a woman superhero movie.

Frank Drebin
04-09-2016, 11:24 PM
Also, if being a carbon copy of Marvel is to be avoided, they arent off to a great start when the "Big Bad" is Darkseid who looks pretty similar to Thanos.

http://orig04.deviantart.net/386a/f/2015/132/d/e/thanos_vs_darkseid_by_halloweenlover316-d8t65g7.jpg

Ruien
04-09-2016, 11:26 PM
Super wish they forget Aqua Man is a person. Just leads to water spots randomly being placed in the Justice League movies when it's not needed.

Frank Drebin
04-09-2016, 11:33 PM
You know its bad when the joke version of Aquaman from Entourage piques your interest more than the real one.

Simple Fan
04-09-2016, 11:45 PM
I'm pretty interested in this Aquaman, I like his look and am interested in how they do Atlantis. Don't think they are in any trouble being a carbon copy of Marvel because Dawn of Justice was far from anything like a Marvel movie. Feel like Marvel has set the precedent for what a comic book movie is and DC made a movie that didn't follow that precedent and I don't think that's a problem.

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 12:08 AM
Really wish people actually knew more about Aquaman and his mythos/powers... Like, seriously, people need to stop with the stereotypical crap they got from the Justice Friends cartoon and shit. Aquaman is as strong and invulnerable as Wonder Woman, and probably as great a warrior as her too. The dude has gone toe to toe with Superman in the past for Christ's sake. He's not just the guy who talks to fish...

Ruien
04-10-2016, 12:32 AM
What is Justice Friends? All my wonderful knowledge comes from Smallville and that show kicked ass.

Simple Fan
04-10-2016, 12:54 AM
Probably talking about Super Freinds. Justice Friends is something from Dextors Laboratory

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWlX_tm6vl23Qi8axts4AhJnif8IhjjFeZ4KfqJbmgVWC8bAeN

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 01:35 AM
Lol I most certainly did mean Super Friends. God damn Dexter Lab making me do that. XD

Lock Jaw
04-10-2016, 01:37 AM
New 52 Aquaman series was actually pretty good.... Haven't read it in ages, but it was radical.....

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 03:29 AM
In the same boat, Lock Jaw. I read quite a few issues and enjoyed the hell out of them, but I've gotten so far behind on pretty much everything at this point that I'm lucky to read my usuals.

Fignuts
04-10-2016, 05:29 AM
Also, if being a carbon copy of Marvel is to be avoided, they arent off to a great start when the "Big Bad" is Darkseid who looks pretty similar to Thanos.

http://orig04.deviantart.net/386a/f/2015/132/d/e/thanos_vs_darkseid_by_halloweenlover316-d8t65g7.jpg

Ironically, Thanos was created as a direct ripoff of darkeid. Jim Starlin outright admitted it.

Rammsteinmad
04-10-2016, 07:01 AM
"You snooze you lose".

Other than Darkseid though, what big villains does DC have that could possibly carry a DC cinematic universe? My minds gone completely blank.

jbizness
04-10-2016, 08:26 AM
"You snooze you lose".

Other than Darkseid though, what big villains does DC have that could possibly carry a DC cinematic universe? My minds gone completely blank.
Ehhhh, im kinda drawing a blank here too. "Juggernaut, Bitch!: The Movie?"

That said, Im really pumped for this

VSG
04-10-2016, 10:08 AM
Ra's Al Ghul, Brainiac, Joker, Bizarro Superman, Hades

jbizness
04-10-2016, 10:11 AM
Ra's Al Ghul, Brainiac, Joker, Bizarro Superman, Hades
Great villains, just not "big" ones, depending on the classification

Rammsteinmad
04-10-2016, 10:19 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking more that "whole Earth is in danger" kinda big. Certainly not Al Ghul or the Joker, whom any member of the Justice League other than Batman could probably kill with one hand.

Reavant
04-10-2016, 11:23 AM
Ironically, Thanos was created as a direct ripoff of darkeid. Jim Starlin outright admitted it.

apocalypse is a lot like him too

Kalyx triaD
04-10-2016, 12:42 PM
It's under the same people? Director, writer, producer; all different.

Heyman
04-10-2016, 12:48 PM
Apparently they have been doing "massive reshoots" ever since they heard the positive response to the trailer....

Because apparently the trailer didn't really match the "tone" of the movie, and pretty much all the "lighthearted" or "humorous" stuff was literally in the trailer...... so after they heard that people loved the trailer, they started working on trying to make the movie's tone actually match the trailer....



Makes sense.


When I watched the initial trailers, I always felt that there was a mismatch as far as tone went. Kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

Lock Jaw
04-10-2016, 01:22 PM
Starro the Conqueror would be a good villain... The one seen in REBELS comic book.... Though invading alien armada had been done to death....

Destor
04-10-2016, 01:41 PM
It's under the same people? Director, writer, producer; all different.

You're trolling, yeah?

Or do you actually not understand how studio heads effect movies from the ground up?

KIRA
04-10-2016, 01:47 PM
Ehhhh, im kinda drawing a blank here too. "Juggernaut, Bitch!: The Movie?"

That said, Im really pumped for this

Anti-Monitor

Crime Syndicate

Braniac

Trigon(though he is more a Teen Titans Villian)

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller(believe it or not)

Sinestro

Starro

Luthor

Faust

Hades

Manchester Black

Simple Fan
04-10-2016, 03:25 PM
Crime Syndicate would be pretty cool if they decide to play with the Mulitverse.

KIRA
04-10-2016, 03:47 PM
Anti-Monitor

Crime Syndicate

Braniac

Trigon(though he is more a Teen Titans Villian)

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller(believe it or not)

Sinestro

Starro

Luthor

Faust

Hades

Manchester Black

Oh yeah and Mongul. Crime Syndicate would be amazing if done right.

Kalyx triaD
04-10-2016, 04:18 PM
You're trolling, yeah?

Or do you actually not understand how studio heads effect movies from the ground up?

Lol nigga please.

alvarado52
04-10-2016, 04:40 PM
If they make this movie as funny as Teen Titans GO! I'll watch it 100 times.

Simple Fan
04-10-2016, 04:47 PM
Ugh, I hope not. Don't like that show but mainly because of the animation. Really don't think this movie needs to be real funny though.

Destor
04-10-2016, 06:28 PM
Lol nigga please.

Gotcha. I thought you were. Otherwise i wouldn't even known where tonstart on that one.

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 07:45 PM
If they make this movie as funny as Teen Titans GO! I'll watch it 100 times.

I will fucking stab you in the neck, you piece of shit.

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 07:46 PM
I will fucking stab you in the neck, you piece of shit.

I apologize for that. I overrated a tad bit there.

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 07:46 PM
Still gonna stab you though.

VSG
04-10-2016, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking more that "whole Earth is in danger" kinda big. Certainly not Al Ghul or the Joker, whom any member of the Justice League other than Batman could probably kill with one hand.

Either could have the Justice League against each other, doesn't have to world in danger.

Crime Syndicate and Sinestro/Yellow Lantern Corps are top suggestions though. Ditto with Amanda Waller/Checkmate although as behind the scenes villain entity like Luthor.

Wishbone
04-10-2016, 08:23 PM
Brainiac would be a great villain for the Justice League to fight. Dude doesn't get enough love outside the comics. He's every bit as terrifying in concept as Darkseid.

Lock Jaw
04-10-2016, 08:58 PM
Would be "cool" if they could do Starro without it being "derivative", since he was the first threat the Justice League fought.

R.E.B.E.L.S. did a good "re-imagining" where they "revealed" that all the Starros seen before were just "scouts", and their "master" was an alien who ruled galaxies and was now coming himself with his huge ass armada from all the galaxies he rules.....

Was a good series....

Lock Jaw
04-11-2016, 01:12 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MZwsbcW-d-E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hmmmmm.....

Damian Rey 2.0
04-11-2016, 01:20 AM
Margot Robbie in a bra? Color me sold.

But in all seriousness, them showing MULTIPLE Batman snips makes me feel like they think he's a big draw. Which he is. But I'd rather they try and make us forget he's in it and surprise us later.

Rammsteinmad
04-11-2016, 07:30 AM
Aw man... this just looks so boring and uninteresting.

I'll go see it anyway, since I see all comic book movies in the cinema, but this just doesn't really interest me.

Rammsteinmad
04-11-2016, 07:31 AM
Margot Robbie in a bra? Color me sold.

But in all seriousness, them showing MULTIPLE Batman snips makes me feel like they think he's a big draw. Which he is. But I'd rather they try and make us forget he's in it and surprise us later.

Come on, it's DC. Batman probably has more screen-time than the Suicide Squad themselves.

Simple Fan
04-11-2016, 11:55 AM
Looks pretty cool. Really want to see more of this Batman so I don't care if he has a lot of scene time.

Fignuts
04-11-2016, 02:26 PM
Aw man... this just looks so boring and uninteresting.

I'll go see it anyway, since I see all comic book movies in the cinema, but this just doesn't really interest me.

Nothing interests you, though.

Frank Drebin
04-11-2016, 03:19 PM
Ironically, Thanos was created as a direct ripoff of darkeid. Jim Starlin outright admitted it.

Lol...I didn't know this. Good stuff.

Frank Drebin
04-11-2016, 03:22 PM
Margot Robbie in a bra? Color me sold.

But in all seriousness, them showing MULTIPLE Batman snips makes me feel like they think he's a big draw. Which he is. But I'd rather they try and make us forget he's in it and surprise us later.

One of the prevailing themes I'm hearing from people is that Wonder Woman being in the trailers spoiled what could have been a mark out moment surprise - especially since it seems she was in the movie for short stints. Wondering if Batman is on that path for this film.

Wouldn't surprise me if whatever trailers they release from here on out have more and more Batman shots but he's only in the movie for 15 minutes.

Simple Fan
04-11-2016, 04:16 PM
Batman is a little different. Just kind of hated it how Wonder Women made her big screen debut in a trailer. Should have been a surprise and would have made it a lot better. I mean Batman being in the trailers doesn't really ruin anything that could have been special unless they show a trailer with him and Joker meeting or something like that.

Lock Jaw
04-11-2016, 04:42 PM
Dunno.... feel like Batman was "barely" in the trailer, and so quick that people might not even know it is him, so really nothing lost....

drave
04-11-2016, 05:01 PM
Hey look, its Batman