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mike adamle
10-18-2015, 11:37 AM
WWE is supposedly trying to break the all time attendance record at WrestleMania 32 this year. What card would you have to bring in 100,000 people to Cowboys Stadium?

John Cena vs. The Undertaker

WWE Title Match- Seth Rollins (C) vs. Roman Reigns w/ The Authority

#1 Contender For WWE Title Match- Brock Lesnar vs. Cesaro

Both Making Their Returns: Daniel Bryan vs. Kurt Angle

Last Man Standing Match- Dean Ambrose vs. Triple H

The Rock vs. Kevin Owens

WWE Tag Team Title 6 Tag Team TLC Match- The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray Dudley & D-Von Dudley) (C) vs. The New Day (Big E & Kofi Kingston) vs. The Usos (Jey Uso & Jimmy Uso) vs. The Lucha Dragons (Kalisto & Sin Cara II) vs. The Wyatt Family (Braun Strowman & Luke Harper) vs. The Hardy Boyz (Matt Hardy & Jeff Hardy)

12 Woman 4 Tag Triple Elimination Match- Team NCB (Natalya, Charlotte, & Becky Lynch) vs. Team Bella (Brie Bella, Nikki Bella, & Alicia Fox) vs. Team B.A.D. (Naomi, Sasha Banks, & Tamina Snuka) vs. Paige, Emma, & Bayley

Andre The Giant Memorial 32 Man Battle Royal- Alberto Del Rio vs. Batista vs. Big Show vs. Billy Gunn vs. Booker T vs. Carlito vs. Darren Young vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Goldust vs. Jack Swagger vs. Jerry Lawler vs. John Morrison vs. Kane vs. Kevin Nash vs. King Barrett vs. Mark Henry vs. The Miz vs. Neville vs. R-Truth vs. Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Rhyno vs. Road Dogg vs. Rob Van Dam vs. Rusev vs. Ryback vs. Stardust vs. Titus O'Neil vs. William Regal vs. X-Pac vs. Xavier Woods vs. Sami Zayn

WWE Intercontinental Title Match- Finn Balor (C) vs. Chris Jericho

Pre-Show Match- Bray Wyatt vs. Sting

Pre-Show Match- WWE United States Title Match- Sheamus (C) vs. Samoa Joe

Pre-Show Match- 20 Man Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal Qualifying Battle Royal- Adam Rose vs. Apollo Crews vs. Bo Dallas vs. Curtis Axel vs. Damien Sandow vs. Diego vs. Erick Rowan vs. Fandango vs. Fernando vs. Heath Slater vs. Hideo Itami vs. James Storm vs. Jamie Noble vs. Joey Mercury vs. Jushin Liger vs. Konnor vs. Sami Zayn vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Viktor vs. Zack Ryder

Sixx
10-18-2015, 11:49 AM
All matches should be Judy Bagwell on a pole matches.

Damian Rey
10-18-2015, 12:26 PM
WWE WHC-Rumble winner Brock Lesnar v newly anointed Authority hand picked champion Roman Reigns

Intercontinental title- Kevin Owens v Dean Ambrose

Tag titles- New Day v Rock n Sock Connection

Bray Wyatt v Sting (assuming he's healthy)

Seth Rollins v Triple H

John Cena v the Undertaker- United States title match with Taker's career on the line

Sasha Banks v Charlotte v Paige- diva's title

Andre the Giant battle Royal- winner receives number one contender spot for WWE WHC down the line. Make it mean something. Good way to help a midcard talent get a quick feud in with the top guy.

Simple Fan
10-18-2015, 05:11 PM
WWE WHC: Brock Leaner(c) vs The Rock(rumble winner)

US Championship: John Cena(c) vs Roman Reigns

Seth Rollins vs HHH(30 minute iron man match)

Undertaker vs Kane

IC Championship: Kevin Owens(c) vs Cesaro vs Chris Jericho vs Dean Ambrose

Sting vs Stardust

Tag Team Championships: Dudley Boys(c) vs the Uso (tables match)

Wyatt Family vs New Day

Divas Championship: Paige(c) vs Sascha Banks (cage match)

Randy Orton vs Finn Balor( 2 out 3 falls)

Pre Show: Charlotte & Becky Lynch vs Bella Twins vs Naomi & Tamina

Nattie vs Bayley

Andre the Giant Battle Royal for a US title shot: Big Show, Neville, Sheamus, R Truth, The Mix, Curtis Axle, Sandow, Titus Oniel, Darren Young, Konnor, Viktor, Rusev, King Barrett, Adam Rose, Jack Swagger, Fandango, Tyler Breeze, Fernando, Diego, El Toronto, Hornswoggle, Mark Henry, Samoa Joe, Heath Slater, Zach Ryder, Ryback, Barron Corbin, Bo Dallas, Kevin Nash

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-18-2015, 07:15 PM
1-Main Event
Double Retirement Match
The Undertaker Vs. Sting

2-Co-Main Event:
World Heavyweight Championship
Triple Threat Elimination Match
The Shield Explodes.

(C) Seth Rollins Vs. Dean Ambrose Vs. Roman Reigns.

3-Grudge Match:
John Cena Vs. Brock Lesnar

4-Long Shot Mixed Tag Team Match:
Triple H and Stephanie Vs. The Rock and Ronda Rousey

5-Control of the Family on the Line:
Bray Wyatt Vs. Cowboy James Storm.

James Storm joined the Wyatts but ends up more powerful a leader. He forces Bray out in this match to give Wyatt a chance to be a Mick Foley like character babyface. Allowing to capitlize on his popularity.

6-WWE Divas Championship:

(C) Sasha Banks Vs Bayley (winner of the Royal Rumble)

7-Tag Team Turmoil for the Tag Team Championship

The Usos, Blake/Murphy (w/Bliss) , The New Day (C), Prime Time Players, Dudley Boyz, The Mechanics (they win a spot on the NXT show the day before. Blake/Murphy would already be on the Raw/Smackdown Roster)

8-IC Championship
(C) Kevin Owens Vs. Sami Zayn.

9-NXT Championship
(C) Finn Balor Vs. Samoa Joe (the Winner of Tournament/Battle Royal on the NXT TakeOver before WM if there is one)

10-US Championship:
Dolph Ziggler Vs. Tyler Breeze.

Pre-Show:

1- Divas Royal Rumble:
Open to any Divas past or present. 30 second ring entries. That is 14 minutes for enteries. In a Pre-show that is nothing. Winner-Bayley.

2- Andre the Giant with the rest-Winner Mark Henry who retires.

Wishbone
10-18-2015, 07:50 PM
Pre-Show
Andre the Giant Battle Royal (winner... I dunno, who the fuck really cares?)

Intercontinental Championship Ladder Match
Kevin Owens (C) vs Chris Jericho vs (if possible) Daniel Bryan

US Championship/Retirement Match
John Cena (C) vs The Undertaker

Divas Championship Submission Match
Charlotte (C) vs Paige

Tag-Team Championship TLC Match
Dudley Boyz (C) vs New Day vs The Wyatt Family (Harper and Strowman)

NXT Championship Match
Finn Balor (C) vs Samoa Joe

Big Draw Match
Brock Lesnar vs The Rock

Divas #1 Contenders Fatal Four-Way Match
Becky Lynch vs Naomi vs an imploding Team Bella (just Nikki and Brie)

Main Event: World Heavyweight Championship Triple Threat Match
Seth Rolling (C) vs Roman Reigns vs Dean Ambrose

Obligatory Celebrity Match (if possible)
Triple H and Stephanie vs (insert someone here... Maybe Kane) and Ronda Ronda Rousey

Simple Fan
10-18-2015, 07:52 PM
At first I thought STD had Bayley winning "the" Royal Romble. Don't think fans would boo that as much as Batista and Reigns the last two years though.

Wishbone
10-18-2015, 07:55 PM
Oh, and I'd likely have the show end with whichever Shield member wins celebrating only for the lights to go out and then some creepy ass entrance that leads to Bray Wyatt revealing himself in the ring and laughing maniacally before disappearing into the shadows again.

Damian Rey
10-18-2015, 08:04 PM
I'd be down for that ending a little while down th line. With Ambrose and Reigns being in this two year feud I'd rather they be held off each other.

NormanSmiley
10-18-2015, 08:05 PM
Brock lesnar in every match, winning every match

Shisen Kopf
10-18-2015, 08:32 PM
NormanSmiley vs #1-WWF-FAN this time try to show up Normy

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-18-2015, 08:33 PM
0-2.

NormanSmiley
10-18-2015, 08:57 PM
Fights in headgear don't put asses in the seats.

#1-norm-fan
10-18-2015, 10:02 PM
Neither do fights where one guy bitches out.

:nono:

NormanSmiley
10-18-2015, 10:09 PM
Neither do fights where one guy hides on the Pacific time zone at fight time

#1-norm-fan
10-18-2015, 10:12 PM
Video evidence doesn't even bring this poor guy out of denial. What a sad, sad, defeated man.

NormanSmiley
10-18-2015, 10:13 PM
To quote some vacaville pussy " you know my internet admin friends can find out where your ip is" yawn. Its cool fag, you convinced your geek friends here you made the trip out east

#1-norm-fan
10-18-2015, 10:21 PM
YAWN!

I believe Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton or Finn Balor would be a splendid match for WWE WrestleMania 32. What say you, TPWW?

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-18-2015, 10:23 PM
He'd be in the battle royal in my card. Trying to win for his childhood idol or something.

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Wishbone
10-18-2015, 11:49 PM
Yeah, add Fan's idea to my card. Bray beats Orton clean and then appears to scare the piss out of whichever Shield guy becomes the very best that no one ever was.

The CyNick
10-19-2015, 12:25 PM
WWE Title - Shield 3 Way
Austin vs Lesnar
HHH vs Rock (with Rousey involvement)
US title - Cena vs Xavier Woods
Taker vs Sting
IC Title Ladder Match - Owens and others
Divas Title - Sasha vs Charlotte
ATG Battle Royal

DAMN iNATOR
10-19-2015, 12:32 PM
WWE Title - Shield 3 Way
Austin vs Lesnar
HHH vs Rock (with Rousey involvement)
US title - Cena vs Xavier Woods
Taker vs Sting
IC Title Ladder Match - Owens and others
Divas Title - Sasha vs Charlotte
ATG Battle Royal

LOL, no way that is happening @ match highlighted in bold. Sting/'Taker looks highly improbable, too, as I still haven't seen or heard any updates on Sting's possibly career-ending injury.

Big Vic
10-19-2015, 01:04 PM
Hope they put Sting in the ATG Battle Royal, he wins it and then retires the next night.

Rammsteinmad
10-19-2015, 01:53 PM
None of these matches really appeal to me, except the idea of a Shield triple threat for the WWE title.

Have no desire to see another old, crippled Undertaker match, and Lesnar being a face makes it pretty difficult to book him against anyone to try and elevate, ie. Cesaro.

The CyNick
10-19-2015, 01:55 PM
LOL, no way that is happening @ match highlighted in bold. Sting/'Taker looks highly improbable, too, as I still haven't seen or heard any updates on Sting's possibly career-ending injury.

Thread was how would I book. Trying to weave some realism based on where storylines are and also wishful thinking.

I do think there's a chance Austin-Lesnar happens. I can't think of a bigger fight to book. Austin hasn't had a match in over 10 years. I just don't know if medically he can be taken to Suplex City. If he can it would make for a helluva story.

The CyNick
10-19-2015, 01:57 PM
None of these matches really appeal to me, except the idea of a Shield triple threat for the WWE title.

Have no desire to see another old, crippled Undertaker match, and Lesnar being a face makes it pretty difficult to book him against anyone to try and elevate, ie. Cesaro.

I agree on Taker. I'm hoping this is his last dance.

As for Lesnar, I don't think he needs to be in a position to put over talent yet. He's still got 5-10 more years in him as a draw. I would try to keep him strong.

DAMN iNATOR
10-19-2015, 02:36 PM
Thread was how would I book. Trying to weave some realism based on where storylines are and also wishful thinking.

I do think there's a chance Austin-Lesnar happens. I can't think of a bigger fight to book. Austin hasn't had a match in over 10 years. I just don't know if medically he can be taken to Suplex City. If he can it would make for a helluva story.

He's also over 10 years older now, though. It's no secret his knee and neck injuries won't allow him to wrestle again, let alone in a 15 or 20 minute WM match. Let's just say there's a reason why he reffed a Lesnar WM match (XX, v. Goldberg) as opposed to straight up wrestling him. He couldn't do it then, and he can't now. All he's good for anymore is Arrive -> Stunner -> Repeat if necessary -> Leave.

Sorry to bust your bubble.

The CyNick
10-19-2015, 02:44 PM
He's also over 10 years older now, though. It's no secret his knee and neck injuries won't allow him to wrestle again, let alone in a 15 or 20 minute WM match. Let's just say there's a reason why he reffed a Lesnar WM match (XX, v. Goldberg) as opposed to straight up wrestling him. He couldn't do it then, and he can't now. All he's good for anymore is Arrive -> Stunner -> Repeat if necessary -> Leave.

Sorry to bust your bubble.

So you've consulted with Austin's doctors?

DAMN iNATOR
10-19-2015, 02:54 PM
You CLEARLY either never watched the segment on the RAW after WM XIX where Bischoff read Austin's legit medical reasons why he could never wrestle again. Frustratingly enough, I've done TONS of searching all over the Internet for that vid, but haven't been able to find it, but anyway, yeah that was over 12 1/2 years ago, and I'm sure nothing has changed.

I get it. I feel your frustration. I remember how devastated I was watching the piece on DDP on Confidential after his April, 2002 injury on SD! that would never allow him to wrestle again. But then again, he, like Austin, has nothing left to prove, which is why it's ok if they only pop up when needed as comic relief or whatever.

The CyNick
10-19-2015, 03:03 PM
You CLEARLY either never watched the segment on the RAW after WM XIX where Bischoff read Austin's legit medical reasons why he could never wrestle again. Frustratingly enough, I've done TONS of searching all over the Internet for that vid, but haven't been able to find it, but anyway, yeah that was over 12 1/2 years ago, and I'm sure nothing has changed.

I get it. I feel your frustration. I remember how devastated I was watching the piece on DDP on Confidential after his April, 2002 injury on SD! that would never allow him to wrestle again. But then again, he, like Austin, has nothing left to prove, which is why it's ok if they only pop up when needed as comic relief or whatever.

Its amazing what time does to wounds.

I don't claim to know Austin's health. My understanding is its very unlikely, but I also don't think there is 0% chance it happens.

Personally I won't sleep either way. I just stated its the biggest fight the industry can put on right now.

DAMN iNATOR
10-19-2015, 03:12 PM
It actually seems in DDP's case as though he felt he could recover and return, but I vividly recall the moment in that Confidential piece he mentioned that his insurance company threatened to drop him if he went back to the ring so he was spinning it, at least, as though he was forced into retirement. Either way it was one of the saddest stories I ever watched on that show.

Mr. JL
10-20-2015, 01:09 AM
WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Seth Rollins |VS| Roman Reigns |VS| Dean Ambrose

The Rock |VS| Triple H

Brock Lesnar |VS| Stone Cold Steve Austin

John Cena |VS| The Undertaker

WWF |VS| WCW |VS| ECW
Shawn Michaels |VS| Sting |VS| Rob Van Dam

Chris Jericho |VS| Daniel Bryan

Women's Championship
Charlotte |VS| Paige

Casket Match
Kane |VS| Bray Wyatt

WWE Tag Team Championship
TLC 5 or
New Day |VS| The Dudley Boyz |VS| The Uso's |VS| Harlem Heat |VS| Lucha |VS| Neville & Cesaro

#1 Contender's Match for Next PPV
Elimination Chamber Match
Randy Orton |VS| Dolph Ziggler |VS| Sheamus |VS| Ric Flair |VS| Big Show |VS| Mark Henry

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 08:43 AM
I agree on Taker. I'm hoping this is his last dance.

As for Lesnar, I don't think he needs to be in a position to put over talent yet. He's still got 5-10 more years in him as a draw. I would try to keep him strong.

Key word is that I said "elevate", not "put over".

But still, with Lesnar as a face, I can't think of who would be a good fit for him.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 08:53 AM
I've said this so many times now, especially the last few months, Wrestlemania 32 really needs to be the event where WWE take a big risk and stop using the same main event guys.

Triple H doesn't wrestle all year, and then magically finds himself in a feud during March of every year that requires him to lace up his boots? No.

Undertaker is old and crippled and his Wrestlemania matches have been the same for the last five years, and have lost their appeal since the streak ended. No.

The Rock? No.

Shawn Michaels? No.

Sting? Had his Wrestlemania match. If he wants more, perhaps he should have considered coming to WWE ten years ago. His time has past.

All we ever keep hearing about is how Raw's ratings are getting lower and lower. Wrestlemania will sell itself! Any casual fans that tune in or catch the event will watch it, enjoy it, and then not tune in for another year because when they watch Raw the next night, all of the above names are absent.

It resonates with what CM Punk said about how he needed that Wrestlemania main event to elevate himself and get better. There's so many guys on the roster with enough talent to carry this show. But they all need some Wrestlemania exposure to elevate their games. Being constantly thrown into Andre the Giant Battle Royals (which has already run it's course, I hope we don't get another one), so that Triple H or Undertaker can hog half of the show, won't help the roster or the product of today.

If there are any doubts, remember that Wrestlemania 17 is often regarded as one of the greatest Wrestlemania's, and that event didn't rely on any "legends" or part-timers. (Yes I know there was the gimmick Battle Royal, but that wasn't a big selling point of the PPV, and was obviously just something fun between main event matches).

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 08:56 AM
And in regards to my post above, Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins NEEDS to headline this show. There is nothing else that will interest me.

Rollins and Ambrose have both been shit hot since the SHIELD split. They're two of the best in-ring talents, two of the best talkers, and they're both fucking over! Reigns will get the "What?" treatment, but he's no slouch, and will certainly deliver the goods in this match.

Besides that, this match is fresh! It's about time some new faces close the biggest show of the year. These guys will put on a great match, the feud will be great. All three guys are as over and as established as they'll ever be. It's time for WWE to pull the trigger and let them show the world what they can do.

Or... we can look forward to John Cena in the main event AGAIN. "Dwayne" coming back again. Or the Undertaker.

Same. Old. Shit.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 09:06 AM
Also, as much as I know we'd all love to see NXT guys at Wrestlemania, none of them should be on the main show. NXT is the "developmental" brand of WWE so to speak. How bad will it make the main roster look when Finn Balor gets an NXT title match on the biggest show of the year, and Bad News Barrett is in the clusterfuck Battle Royal match?

Heisenberg
10-20-2015, 10:06 AM
My scientific formula to maintain order between all facets of fan labels:

//Hulk Hogan/Ric Flair cold open equipped with Limo entrance and holograms of wrestling legends holding the door open for them.

Holographic Ultimate Warrior and Macho Man coming out to challenge them to a match//

1.) Finn Balor v.s. Samoa Joe v.s. Baron Corbin- NXT Championship

//Holographic Roddy Piper slapping the piss out of The Miz, leading to the return of John Morrison. Morrison does special move off top rope//

2.) HHH v.s. William Regal for sole ownership of NXT

//Big Show backstage vignette of him chokeslamming catering staff, he has kayfabe heart attack, instant pan back to the ring//

3.) The New Day/Enzo and Cass/Dudleys/Hardy Boyz TLC for the Tag Championship

//Fandango shown backstage beating the piss out of Alex Wright and Disco Inferno//

4.) Cesaro v.s. Kevin Owens for the IC Championship

//Sami Zayn backstage segment with him jumping Kevin Owens and peeing in his mouth//

5.) Paige v.s. Becky Lynch v.s. Charlotte v.s. Sasha Banks Fatal Femme 4 Way for the Women's Belt

//Stacy Keibler-Scott Steiner segment where they talk about hashtags and Test//

6.) Daniel Bryan, Roman Reigns and Orton v.s. The Wyatt Family

//Erick Rowan cosplay segment as Zangief, ending with Mean Gene clotheslining him into scaffolding//

7.) Brock Lesnar v.s. Poop Dempsey

//Kurt Angle return with a 30 second staredown with Brock, with both turning their attention to Poop, decimating him with mind bullets//

8.)The Undertaker v.s. Sting w/ Special Guest Referee Jim Cornette

//Kane sets Sting on fire//

Main Event) Dean Ambrose v.s. Seth Rollins for the WWE WH Championship




I know right, tight card. Cena is nowhere to be found until........


Cole: "Seth and Dean are in the ring just trading shots like opponents do! This is incredible!! The Dallas crowd is totally erupting, JOhn!!"


JBL: "This is awesome, Maggal! 9.99 for this spectacle while you throw away a few duckets into the Draft Kings machine!! This is the greatest, friend!"


Pan back to the match and Dean has it in the dooker, ready to pin a fallen Rollins. Then...you won't berieve what happens next.


*oooooOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH AVENUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*




John Cena comes out on the ramp and shimmies down to the ring, takes off his shorts and grabs Ambrose for the Attitude Adjustment. PLOW! BAM! ScOOP!!! The referee acts like nothing happened as he was distracted by the cool entrance video that Cena has, then turns around after it's too late to see Ambrose, a man who has been booked to perfection and ready for his time, laying there motionless. A victim to Cena and his quest to promote Total Divas. Rollins gets the victory and piggybacks up the ramp with Cena, Triple H welcomes them on the ramp and they tell everyone to suck it.


John Cena proclaims next night on RAW that he will destroy any and everything the Internet loves, all in the name of love for his Bella, the Nikki Bella. TOTAL Divas and Make-A-Wishes all day brah.


Enter in Dolph Ziggler as the hot face to feud with Cena over Nikki.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:29 PM
Key word is that I said "elevate", not "put over".

But still, with Lesnar as a face, I can't think of who would be a good fit for him.

On the active roster I can't think of a great choice. To me Austin is the only interesting fight. If it's not Austin, makes me wonder why they didn't just hold off the third fight with Taker. Even though I'm not a huge fan of that match.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:39 PM
I've said this so many times now, especially the last few months, Wrestlemania 32 really needs to be the event where WWE take a big risk and stop using the same main event guys.

Triple H doesn't wrestle all year, and then magically finds himself in a feud during March of every year that requires him to lace up his boots? No.

Undertaker is old and crippled and his Wrestlemania matches have been the same for the last five years, and have lost their appeal since the streak ended. No.

The Rock? No.

Shawn Michaels? No.

Sting? Had his Wrestlemania match. If he wants more, perhaps he should have considered coming to WWE ten years ago. His time has past.

All we ever keep hearing about is how Raw's ratings are getting lower and lower. Wrestlemania will sell itself! Any casual fans that tune in or catch the event will watch it, enjoy it, and then not tune in for another year because when they watch Raw the next night, all of the above names are absent.

It resonates with what CM Punk said about how he needed that Wrestlemania main event to elevate himself and get better. There's so many guys on the roster with enough talent to carry this show. But they all need some Wrestlemania exposure to elevate their games. Being constantly thrown into Andre the Giant Battle Royals (which has already run it's course, I hope we don't get another one), so that Triple H or Undertaker can hog half of the show, won't help the roster or the product of today.

If there are any doubts, remember that Wrestlemania 17 is often regarded as one of the greatest Wrestlemania's, and that event didn't rely on any "legends" or part-timers. (Yes I know there was the gimmick Battle Royal, but that wasn't a big selling point of the PPV, and was obviously just something fun between main event matches).

Well all the Manias between 15 and 17 didn't rely on outside help. 17 was literally the peak of the Attitude Era. Unfortunately they don't have the mainstream appeal they did then. Beyond that, even though 17 was critically acclaimed, it isn't the most purchased show in history.

I like the way Mania is set up right now. It's the only stadium show of the year, so it should have special features. If you don't include part timers then Mania becomes Summerslam. That doesn't seem like a smart strategy. Even more important with The Network where Mania anchors your subscription base. You need as many bells and whistles to keep people entertained.

To me as long as the guys like Hunter, Rock, Taker, etc can have good matches, they help being part of the show. Taker putting over Brock to this day helps Brocks gimmick. Rock working with Cena was huge business. Triple H putting over Bryan clean created a special moment. Triple H vs Sting with the NWO and DX involvement created a special moment. Mania needs those special moments to elevate it from the other shows on the calendar.

No offense to CM Punk, but he's a delusional character. He's only concerned about himself, doesn't see the bigger picture.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 02:40 PM
I can think of some good choices, but the timing's not right. Face Orton vs. heel Lesnar wouldn't be too bad, but with Lesnar as a face it wouldn't make sense, and I have no desire to see Orton turn heel again already.

Would love to see Cesaro get the rub of working with Lesnar, but again, face vs. face in this scenario doesn't work, and I don't want to see Cesaro turn heel.

Austin doesn't interest me though, pretty much for the reasons I stated above. I don't feel the need to constantly see the big names of today facing the big names of yesterday. We got Hogan vs. Rock in 2002 and we got Rock vs. Cena in 2012 & 2013, that's enough for now. :y:

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:41 PM
And in regards to my post above, Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins NEEDS to headline this show. There is nothing else that will interest me.

Rollins and Ambrose have both been shit hot since the SHIELD split. They're two of the best in-ring talents, two of the best talkers, and they're both fucking over! Reigns will get the "What?" treatment, but he's no slouch, and will certainly deliver the goods in this match.

Besides that, this match is fresh! It's about time some new faces close the biggest show of the year. These guys will put on a great match, the feud will be great. All three guys are as over and as established as they'll ever be. It's time for WWE to pull the trigger and let them show the world what they can do.

Or... we can look forward to John Cena in the main event AGAIN. "Dwayne" coming back again. Or the Undertaker.

Same. Old. Shit.

WWE usually has the big title match go on last. So you can still have the big stars in other matches and have The Shield boys go last.

If HHH vs Rock is on this show, I don't think it goes on last. If Austin vs Lesnar happens, I could see that going on last.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 02:44 PM
Well all the Manias between 15 and 17 didn't rely on outside help. 17 was literally the peak of the Attitude Era. Unfortunately they don't have the mainstream appeal they did then. Beyond that, even though 17 was critically acclaimed, it isn't the most purchased show in history.

I like the way Mania is set up right now. It's the only stadium show of the year, so it should have special features. If you don't include part timers then Mania becomes Summerslam. That doesn't seem like a smart strategy. Even more important with The Network where Mania anchors your subscription base. You need as many bells and whistles to keep people entertained.

To me as long as the guys like Hunter, Rock, Taker, etc can have good matches, they help being part of the show. Taker putting over Brock to this day helps Brocks gimmick. Rock working with Cena was huge business. Triple H putting over Bryan clean created a special moment. Triple H vs Sting with the NWO and DX involvement created a special moment. Mania needs those special moments to elevate it from the other shows on the calendar.

No offense to CM Punk, but he's a delusional character. He's only concerned about himself, doesn't see the bigger picture.

I don't mind having one or two part timers, but how does it help the product throughout the rest of the year? The context in which I used CM Punk's quotes weren't related to Punk himself, but to the product. Why would a casual fan who tunes in for Wrestlemania give a shit about a guy like Dolph Ziggler if he only appears in clusterfuck throwaway matches on the biggest stage of the year? Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, Rock etc have had countless Wrestlemania moments. They need to start giving the spotlight to today's superstars, so that they can use that Wrestlemania exposure to elevate themselves.

Triple H, Undertaker, The Rock, John Cena, Sting, Brock Lesnar etc will not be able to carry Wrestlemania events for the rest of their lives. What happens when they hang up the boots for good? Who'll carry the show then? Cody Rhodes?

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:45 PM
To me Lesnar v Austin is different.

They have the backstory of Austin walking out on a fight with Lesnar.

You have Austin returning after more than 10 years in a city that is very special to him.

You have Austin's health as a sympathetic factor going against a living breathing monster.

It's not just some random fight. It could be one of the greatest stories in WWE history.

Simple Fan
10-20-2015, 02:48 PM
Don't see Austin/Lesnar happening and don't know why anyone would want it to. Austin couldn't have a good match with Lesnar for his neck. You think Austin could take multiple suplexes on his neck. The match would suck and probably get Austin hurt.

Id like to see Sting work a match with Stardust at Mania if he can.

Don't want to see a Shield triple threat either as it would probably be used to put Reigns over.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 02:49 PM
Nah, Austin is 52 and is not gonna be anyway near the condition he use to be in. Plus, I have no desire to see his beer gut in spandex trunks at Wrestlemania. The backstory of Austin walking out on Lesnar ten years ago won't even be mentioned, considering that WWE hasn't even acknowledged that this isn't the first time Lesnar and Undertaker have met at Hell in a Cell. Austin's had his run. It was fantastic. But I have no desire to see that now. Next.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 02:51 PM
Don't want to see a Shield triple threat either as it would probably be used to put Reigns over.

I wouldn't mind whatever the outcome is. I think Reigns winning will get shit all over like the Royal Rumble this year, but I think the main thing is that the main event status will elevate all three men anyway, regardless of who wins.

Ambrose winning would get an unbelievable pop so that'd be cool though.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:52 PM
I don't mind having one or two part timers, but how does it help the product throughout the rest of the year? The context in which I used CM Punk's quotes weren't related to Punk himself, but to the product. Why would a casual fan who tunes in for Wrestlemania give a shit about a guy like Dolph Ziggler if he only appears in clusterfuck throwaway matches on the biggest stage of the year? Guys like Triple H, Undertaker, Rock etc have had countless Wrestlemania moments. They need to start giving the spotlight to today's superstars, so that they can use that Wrestlemania exposure to elevate themselves.

Triple H, Undertaker, The Rock, John Cena, Sting, Brock Lesnar etc will not be able to carry Wrestlemania events for the rest of their lives. What happens when they hang up the boots for good? Who'll carry the show then? Cody Rhodes?

Similar reason to why the Super Bowl has an elaborate half time show and when you watch a week 7 game its a bunch of geeks yacking. More people tune into the Super Bowl because you are using a bigger net and you hope that translates to more long term fans.

Taker is a loss that is likely around the corner although I believe his value has drastically decreased after the streak.

Cena is still a full timer. He can probably go as a full timer for another 10 years if he wants to. At the very least he can do years of work as a part time. Rock and Hunter are in great shape, they could be doing one off matches for ten years plus.

Randy Orton can transition to that role, Batista can do it, Punk when he comes back. And you just keep cycling guys through.

Besides, you're advocating for no part timers, so if you think Mania will fall off a cliff without them, why suggest that?

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:54 PM
Don't see Austin/Lesnar happening and don't know why anyone would want it to. Austin couldn't have a good match with Lesnar for his neck. You think Austin could take multiple suplexes on his neck. The match would suck and probably get Austin hurt.

Id like to see Sting work a match with Stardust at Mania if he can.

Don't want to see a Shield triple threat either as it would probably be used to put Reigns over.

Most Austin fights are brawl style, kick punch mostly. Part of the storyline could be Austin can't take suplexes like other guys. You need maybe 3 in the whole fight to tell an effective story.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:55 PM
Nah, Austin is 52 and is not gonna be anyway near the condition he use to be in. Plus, I have no desire to see his beer gut in spandex trunks at Wrestlemania. The backstory of Austin walking out on Lesnar ten years ago won't even be mentioned, considering that WWE hasn't even acknowledged that this isn't the first time Lesnar and Undertaker have met at Hell in a Cell. Austin's had his run. It was fantastic. But I have no desire to see that now. Next.

Hogan was well past his prime when he worked Rock at 18. If I recall correctly I think that got over.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 02:57 PM
I'm not saying Wrestlemania will fail without them, but if WWE don't do something with their talent now, when these guys finally do retire, they won't have any "big names" to carry the product.

I don't even know why we're arguing this. It's my opinion vs. yours. I won't change your mind and you're not gonna change mine. I'm just sick and tired of the same part timers every year. If you think it's a winning formula then great, enjoy Wrestlemania 32. :y: It's not going to help the ratings throughout the rest of the year though, just like it hasn't done the last four or five years.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 02:57 PM
I wouldn't mind whatever the outcome is. I think Reigns winning will get shit all over like the Royal Rumble this year, but I think the main thing is that the main event status will elevate all three men anyway, regardless of who wins.

Ambrose winning would get an unbelievable pop so that'd be cool though.

Its been done before but just do a tie at Rumble between Ambrose and Reigns

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 02:57 PM
Hogan was well past his prime when he worked Rock at 18. If I recall correctly I think that got over.

I don't see Lesnar being as safe to work with as The Rock.

And if I recall, Hogan never broke his neck. Quite a serious injury, that.

Simple Fan
10-20-2015, 02:58 PM
Most Austin fights are brawl style, kick punch mostly. Part of the storyline could be Austin can't take suplexes like other guys. You need maybe 3 in the whole fight to tell an effective story.

Still don't want to see it. Would rather Brock face the Rock at Mania. Austin can host the show or be a special guest referee in a match, just dont think the guy can do a match.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 03:00 PM
I'm exactly with Simple Fan. The Rock, at least, is still in fantastic physical shape, would be a huge draw outside of wrestling, and, let's face it, is fucking huge. Austin has put on weight and is probably nowhere near the shape he use to be in, and, let's be honest here, hasn't really done much outside of wrestling that non-wrestling fans care about.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 03:01 PM
I'm not saying Wrestlemania will fail without them, but if WWE don't do something with their talent now, when these guys finally do retire, they won't have any "big names" to carry the product.

I don't even know why we're arguing this. It's my opinion vs. yours. I won't change your mind and you're not gonna change mine. I'm just sick and tired of the same part timers every year. If you think it's a winning formula then great, enjoy Wrestlemania 32. :y: It's not going to help the ratings throughout the rest of the year though, just like it hasn't done the last four or five years.

I'm not trying to change your mind, just pointing out the fallacy in your logic.

WWE used guys like HBK, Hogan, and Flair at Manias. They are all gone. Mania is still wildly successful. Brock, Rock and Hunter can be special attractions for another 10 years. So what's the concern?

New guys are still getting over like Bryan, Reigns, Rollins, etc. A lot of those guys got rubs from the part timers you hate.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 03:01 PM
But I'd rather not see the Rock either. I'd rather Brock face someone on the roster he hasn't faced yet. Just can't think of who'd fit right now.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 03:02 PM
I don't see Lesnar being as safe to work with as The Rock.

And if I recall, Hogan never broke his neck. Quite a serious injury, that.

Of course. All of this is predicated in Austin being medically cleared for ONE fight.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 03:03 PM
I'm exactly with Simple Fan. The Rock, at least, is still in fantastic physical shape, would be a huge draw outside of wrestling, and, let's face it, is fucking huge. Austin has put on weight and is probably nowhere near the shape he use to be in, and, let's be honest here, hasn't really done much outside of wrestling that non-wrestling fans care about.

The match would be in like 6 months not tomorrow. I'm sure Austin would do a couple sit ups

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 03:03 PM
I'm not trying to change your mind, just pointing out the fallacy in your logic.

WWE used guys like HBK, Hogan, and Flair at Manias. They are all gone. Mania is still wildly successful. Brock, Rock and Hunter can be special attractions for another 10 years. So what's the concern?

New guys are still getting over like Bryan, Reigns, Rollins, etc. A lot of those guys got rubs from the part timers you hate.

It's not so much "my concern" as it is that I'm fucking bored of seeing the same people over and over. I want to see guys like Dolph Ziggler finally get a decent Wrestlemania moment, and actually get elevated to a level where he can be seen as a legit main-eventer.

It's just become very formulaic every year now.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 03:04 PM
But I'd rather not see the Rock either. I'd rather Brock face someone on the roster he hasn't faced yet. Just can't think of who'd fit right now.

That would be fine.

Rollins or Reigns is the most logical

Sixx
10-20-2015, 03:04 PM
Brock Lesnar vs. Bruno Sammartino

Sixx
10-20-2015, 03:05 PM
Maybe dig out Chris Benoit and book him too. The ultimate heel.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 03:07 PM
I know Reigns didn't win the match, but I liked Reigns vs Lesnar from this years Wrestlemania. Even though Reigns took as ass-whooping pretty much the entire match, the fact he kept fighting on, and even smiled about it all, really endeared him to the fans.

The same could work, in theory, for anyone. I don't wanna see Lesnar get wasted on a guy like Austin, who'll be gone the next night.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 03:14 PM
I know Reigns didn't win the match, but I liked Reigns vs Lesnar from this years Wrestlemania. Even though Reigns took as ass-whooping pretty much the entire match, the fact he kept fighting on, and even smiled about it all, really endeared him to the fans.

The same could work, in theory, for anyone. I don't wanna see Lesnar get wasted on a guy like Austin, who'll be gone the next night.

That would be good, it just obviously not as big of an event.

Owens is the other potentially interesting option to me

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 03:17 PM
That would be good, it just obviously not as big of an event.

Owens is the other potentially interesting option to me

That's where WWE needs to consider what's more important. The one-off event, or the rest of the year.

Austin vs. Lesnar will garner more interest than Owens vs. Lesnar, no doubt. But Austin will be gone the next night, and the product will be left to flounder for the rest of the year. They'll have to sacrifice one for the other.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 03:33 PM
That's where WWE needs to consider what's more important. The one-off event, or the rest of the year.

Austin vs. Lesnar will garner more interest than Owens vs. Lesnar, no doubt. But Austin will be gone the next night, and the product will be left to flounder for the rest of the year. They'll have to sacrifice one for the other.

No doubt, but it's a balance.

Lesnar will be around going forward. If beating Austin elevates his profile like beating Taker did, then you've helped the product for the rest of the year.

Maybe at the next Mania a guy like Reigns or Owens goes over a super strong Brock.

Innovator
10-20-2015, 03:43 PM
Shield 3 way for Title
Cena vs. Taker
Triple H vs. Rock
Sami Zayn vs. Owens for IC Title
US Title Ladder Match
Sasha Banks v. Nikki for Women's Championship (If Sasha wins, title is renamed)
ATG Battle Royal
Bray vs. Cesaro
Legends Battle Royal

Simple Fan
10-20-2015, 03:43 PM
No doubt, but it's a balance.

Lesnar will be around going forward. If beating Austin elevates his profile like beating Taker did, then you've helped the product for the rest of the year.

Maybe at the next Mania a guy like Reigns or Owens goes over a super strong Brock.


Don't think a win over Austin would elevate him like Taker did. Nonoe thought Lesnar would win that match. Everyone knows Brock would go over Austin.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 04:18 PM
Lesnar ended the streak and beat the face of the company twice in a row in a complete squash match. He's a former UFC heavyweight champion. There is nothing more that WWE can do to elevate Lesnar or make him look strong. Beating a 52-year-old who's well past his prime and hasn't wrestled in 12 years certainly won't do that.

On the other hand, in 10, or 15 years time, when Undertaker, Triple H, Sting and Lesnar have retired for good and aren't the "special attraction" matches anymore, who's gonna fill that spot? Sheamus? Dolph Ziggler? (and that's rhetorical, please don't give me any shite about "Triple H could still have another 15 years in him" because I'm being hypothetical).

Innovator
10-20-2015, 04:21 PM
Cena, he's definitely going to be the ultra-super-mega part timer

Simple Fan
10-20-2015, 04:28 PM
Yea Cena and Orton are about to switch to part time before long. Orton's got a dislocated shoulder and Cena taking time off so we could see WWE trying to elevate guys while their out.

The CyNick
10-20-2015, 06:20 PM
Lesnar ended the streak and beat the face of the company twice in a row in a complete squash match. He's a former UFC heavyweight champion. There is nothing more that WWE can do to elevate Lesnar or make him look strong. Beating a 52-year-old who's well past his prime and hasn't wrestled in 12 years certainly won't do that.

On the other hand, in 10, or 15 years time, when Undertaker, Triple H, Sting and Lesnar have retired for good and aren't the "special attraction" matches anymore, who's gonna fill that spot? Sheamus? Dolph Ziggler? (and that's rhetorical, please don't give me any shite about "Triple H could still have another 15 years in him" because I'm being hypothetical).

You only need a few of those guys. Most likely the guys who are top guys today and have 10+ year runs on top will become the new generation of part time acts who come in to help Mania seem special.

The WWE hasnt stopped creating stars nor will they between now and Mania 47 which you seem so concerned about.

Rammsteinmad
10-20-2015, 06:55 PM
Soooooooo if they're creating new "stars"... then why do we need the same handful of guys to come back every Wrestlemania? Why not at other PPV's also?

Damian Rey
10-20-2015, 07:22 PM
There is literally two top guys right now; Cena and Lesnar. Neither are going to be wrestling or carrying the company over the next ten years, seeing as they're both creeping up on 40 years of age. Especially Cena. He's a fucking workhorse but how much can that body take as it enters the second half of its life span?

#1-norm-fan
10-20-2015, 08:26 PM
WWE World Heavyweight Title Match (Guest Referee/Enforcer: Steve Austin)
Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns vs Seth Rollins (c)

WWE United States Title vs Career Match
John Cena vs Samoa Joe (c)

The Rock and Johnny "Motherfucking" Curtis vs Triple H and Batista

Retirement Match
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Daniel Bryan vs Kevin Owens (c)

WWE World Tag Team Title Match
Sheamus and Rusev vs The Usos

Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton

Chris Jericho vs Dean Ambrose

WWE Divas Title Match
Asuka vs Paige (c)

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal

The CyNick
10-23-2015, 02:45 PM
There is literally two top guys right now; Cena and Lesnar. Neither are going to be wrestling or carrying the company over the next ten years, seeing as they're both creeping up on 40 years of age. Especially Cena. He's a fucking workhorse but how much can that body take as it enters the second half of its life span?

I think he's got at least 5 years left as a full timer. Another 5-10 as a part time. Depending how his body holds up

Mr. Nerfect
10-24-2015, 10:52 PM
Triple Threat Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Seth Rollins (c) vs. Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose

The Undertaker vs. John Cena

Brock Lesnar vs. Samoa Joe

Six-Man Tag Team Match
Evolution vs. The Wyatt Family

Divas Championship
Charlotte (c) vs. Sasha Banks

WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. The Usos

Intercontinental Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

10-Diva Tag Team Match
The Bella Twins, Paige, Emma & Asuka vs. Trish Stratus, Lita, Becky Lynch, Natalya & Bayley

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Everyone else, baby!

United States Championship
Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Cesaro

* I had Ziggler winning the US Title at Hell in a Cell, but now my dream booking is to have Samoa Joe win the title and get a proper run with it. That would have logically extended under WrestleMania, but I just like the idea of slimeball Ziggler defending the US Title against Cesaro with his new manager, Lana, so much. It could be a tremendous opening match for WrestleMania. So I have Joe eliminate Brock in the Royal Rumble (Joe is undefeated at this point). Brock tears up the place and screams at Joe, who gets out of the ring and gets in Brock's face basically asking Brock what is he going to do about it. Brock and Joe fight, and in the chaos, Joe is eliminated officially. Brock then costs Joe the US Title to Ziggler at Fastlane and their match at WrestleMania is set. It might not *seem* special right now, but I think if they go balls-in with Joe, they can make a fair bit of money out of him over the next year or so.

* I bring back the Battle Royal, and this is where all your other guys get a spot. Big Show is returning to try and defend his victory, Damien Sandow has got something to prove in the match, as does Hideo Itami who got to compete in the previous installment. Sheamus is in there, as is Mark Henry, The Dudley Boyz...you get the drill.

* The women's tag is basically there to showcase some of the stronger workers and bigger stars in the division. Ideally, I'd like to have a tournament for some women's tag belts, but I think that *for Mania*, showing these stars all bouncing off each other might put a better spotlight and less pressure on the division. You'd have Alicia Fox and Dana Brooke at ringside with the heels, and maybe Sara Lee at ringside with the faces.

* Owens vs. Bryan could have such a great story behind it. I'd be careful with him, but there is the story of his WrestleMania comeback to tell. He never lost the World Title, he never lost the IC Title, he wants to prove he can still be champion. Owens is the right sort of guy to put against Bryan too. They could milk concern that Owens is going to end Bryan's career. I'd keep the Owens vs. Zayn match in my back-pocket, as the main roster story between them hasn't been told yet.

* The New Day vs. The Usos is basically your top heel tag team defending against the guys you want your top face team to be. It's not really rocket science. This would be another good choice for an opener.

* Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks seems like the most obvious choice for a Women's Title program at WrestleMania as there could be. I switch the title from Charlotte to Sasha at the Royal Rumble, with some shenanigans involved, and Banks successfully beats a strong face at Fastlane whilst Charlotte trains for her rematch. I think having the title switch hands gives Charlotte a traditional story of redemption, and having the match at the Royal Rumble is going to create a stir around those two, which can be used to mine out the Mania match.

* Triple H has to be on the card, realistically. I don't really see a big money match they can do with him that doesn't involve The Rock. By the way, I'm working under the assumption that I don't have access to The Rock or Ronda Rousey due to scheduling. At this point, Triple H's heel heat has died down, so maybe he finds himself crossed by Bray Wyatt, who decides he wants to "burn WWE to the ground." Or maybe Bray and his misfists turn face and rebel against Authority. Either way, I see Triple H giving a call to his buddies -- Randy Orton and Batista -- and reminding them that their resentment for each other was what drove them to be such big success stories.

* I talked about Lesnar vs. Joe. It's the biggest "smark match" on my card (well, except for maybe Ziggler vs. Cesaro, but I gave that the Lana attraction), but I still defend it as something for Brock to do. Who else is he going to face? Undertaker? Rollins? Cena? Triple H? They've either been done or have the same problem of people not buying into Brock's opponent. A clean win over Cena, an undefeated streak heading into the Royal Rumble, eliminating Brock, getting screwed out of his title, wanting to fight Brock -- I think there's enough of a throughline there where people might get on board.

* The Undertaker vs. John Cena is me going into "huge match, huge match, what's our biggest match for the casual fan?" mode. They've kept Undertaker and Cena apart for a very long time, and there is a story of two very different franchises clashing at WrestleMania. Cena can return at the Royal Rumble, he can make it right up until the end, then he gets tossed out by Reigns. Cena needs to prove himself at WrestleMania. "I need to beat you, Taker."

* Roman Reigns eliminates John Cena last to win the 2016 Royal Rumble. Dean Ambrose defeats Sheamus in a Money in the Bank Ladder Match at Fastlane. "You know what happens now, boys." They've protected this exact presentation of their issues, and there's no better time to let them slug it out than at WrestleMania. The crowd reactions for each man will be interesting. There's drama in Rollins' past coming back to bite him, but he gets to come out and stand tall and proud of being WWE World Champion for the entire year at this point.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 11:30 AM
Fun card but you realize Batista is a big deal in Hollywood right now? I doubt he's coming back to be put in a random 6 man tag.

Also tough to imagine Brock being up for a match with an indy guy. Like where's the heat? Yes i get 500 of the 12k in the building will be loudly chanting this is awesome, but for the masses is a gross waste of Brock name value.

Maybe if Joe comes to the WWE and dominates for a year, sure. But out of the blue, kinda wreak IMO.

Taker v Cena seems like a lose lose. If you have Cena lose to Taker it continues to make Cena look weak, which is a bad idea. If Cena wins it makes Taker look sad.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 11:40 AM
To me if Bryan can go, he has to be fighting for the title. Anything else and the crowd will crap on it. Nothing would kick off 2016 better than if Bryan was a surprise entry at the Rumble and won.

That would actually play perfectly into the Hunter-Rollins storyline. If Rollins dropped the title to Bryan, HHH could go off, and you got the Rollins babyface turn.

Further, Sheamus a couple months after Mania beating Bryan by cashing in MITB would be perfect because you would have multiple instances where Sheamus beat him in quick matches.

Assuming no Bryan. Another option I wouldn't mind seeing is a Shield Triple Threat. Reigns cheats to win and at the end opens his vest to reveal his I'm a Paul Heyman guy tshirt.

Simple Fan
10-25-2015, 11:44 AM
I wouldn't call Joe an Indy guy. Sure he was in ROH but a majority of his career was spent in TNA. Joe vs Brock would be a hell of a fight and I believe more than 500 would think its awesome. Yea it be better if Joe was on the roster prior to WM but Joe answering a Brock Lesnar WM open challenge would get quite a pop.

Maluco
10-25-2015, 12:47 PM
There is absolutely no chance of Lesnar having an open challenge at Mania, that would be a complete waste of their most marketable asset.

I would have Lesnar going in as a dominant champ again if someone else was ready to make the step up. It was obvious they were trying it with Reigns until they were forced to change course.

Bryan would be ideal but it has to be a surefire thing this time around which makes it difficult.

I would say a face Rollins but I think that him and HHH is a lock for Mania given the build.

I would go for something like this...

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
The Rock vs Brock Lesnar (c)

Seth Rollins vs HHH

John Cena vs Roman Reigns

Intercontinental Title
Cesaro vs Kevin Owens (c)

US Title
Rusev (c) vs Daniel Bryan

The Undertaker vs Dolph Ziggler

Dean Ambrose vs Chris Jericho

Randy Orton vs Bray Wyatt

Divas Title
Charlotte (c) vs Sasha Banks

TLC match
New Day vs The Dudleyz vs Samoa Joe/Usos

Pre-Show

Andre the Giant Battle Royal
Sheamus winning

Tag Titles
The Miz/Tyler Breeze vs New Age Outlaws


Obviously some of this is just fantasy and some of it wouldn't work but it is what I would like to see.

A fun tag match on the pre-show that gets fans into the event. Maybe some comedy thrown in. Would like to see Miz and Breeze together, think it is a natural fit and there could be a stable of sorts with lackeys getting involved. They should retain here.

Sheamus winning the battle royal keeps the case in view and keeps him strong for what may happen after Mania.

Instead of having tag team turmoil, I would like to see something different, so Dudleyz bringing in Spike and Samoa Joe being recruited by the returning Usos can give a match to all 3 members of New Day. Could be very memorable and help them sell numerous DVDs with recaps of past TLC stuff with Dudleyz involved .

Sascha Banks is a star. Should build up Charlotte as an unstoppable wrestler with her father's backing before then and have Banks topple her at Mania.

Wyatt and Orton has seeds planted seemingly and Wyatt needs a big Mania win over an established star.

Ziggler has a bit of HBK about him and a match with the Undertaker gives him some spotlight and a different challenge to Taker. I would have Ziggler take him to the absolute limit and look like a warrior, but Taker will get the win in his own state.

If Bryan is fit, I would build Rusev up (doesn't looke likely now), with Lana back at his side and have him go after the US title. Have him hold the title captive, in need of a hero to salvage it and Bryan returns to challenge him at Mania (perhaps against medical advice). Could be a fantastic story and great Mania moment.

Ambrose and Jericho has seeds planted from recently and makes sense.

Cesaro and Owens also has seeds planted and makes sense, and gives both a chance to shine, maybe after so much failure, this could be Cesaros chance to win.

Cena/Reigns could have a great narrative of Cena telling him what is needed to be the best and Reigns jealously lashing out and attacking Cena. A Reigns turn and win against Cena at Mania could be a big moment for him.

HHH/Rollins is the longest built story they have, and a face Rollins could use a win against the Game as a springboard to great heights. He is fantastic and don't think he gets the credit he deserves.

Lesnar/Rock is the biggest money match they could have IMO and give them something to hang the PPV on so to speak. Make it for the title and while others might see it as a waste, I think it would increase media interest and intrigue going into the event.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 01:25 PM
TNA is a glorified indy promotion.

Trust me Brock vs Joe MASSIVELY devalues Brock. I'm not someone who thinks Joe has it to be a WWE superstar, but say he does get over on the main roster. A match at 32 is pissing money away. A match like that would mean more if Joe was established for a year. And with Brock's part time status, it would be easy to keep them apart until 33.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 01:26 PM
The idea of Taker cutting a promo on Ziggler makes me laugh

Maluco
10-25-2015, 01:47 PM
For Ziggler, its now of never, needs to start to make an impact in some way. I have to admit, my initial card didn't even have him on it, which maybe shows where he is right now.

Initial card was booking 101, Taker against Strowman in his back yard. Atrocious match in all likelihood, but Taker against a built up monster in his home state.

Alternatively, you could do Rusev against Taker and have Ziggler and Bryan wrestler over US title...

Damian Rey
10-25-2015, 02:01 PM
Actually agree with CyNick. I'd give Joe a year long build then push him to Lesnar. At least try to create the fan desire to see them clash.

If anybody, I'd rather Joe debutagainst Owens or Cena.

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 02:08 PM
I think CyNick missed the part where I addressed the problems with Brock/Joe in my original post. And I completely disagree with the Batista point -- I think he's actually gone on record saying that he wants to work with Triple H again.

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 02:19 PM
A less fantastic, more realistic card:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
The Rock (c) vs. Brock Lesnar

The Undertaker vs. John Cena

Triple H vs. Seth Rollins

Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns

Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt

Intercontinental Championship/United States Championship Unification Match
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Daniel Bryan (c)

Divas Championship
Charlotte (c) vs. Sasha Banks

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Everyone else

10-Diva Tag Team Match
The Bella Twins, Alicia Fox, Paige & Naomi vs. Trish Stratus, Lita, Becky Lynch, Natalya & Bayley

Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. The Usos vs. The Wyatt Family vs. The Dudley Boyz

Rammsteinmad
10-25-2015, 02:27 PM
Taker v Cena seems like a lose lose. If you have Cena lose to Taker it continues to make Cena look weak, which is a bad idea. If Cena wins it makes Taker look sad.

This kinda nonsense kills the fun of wrestling. Some times you just need to enjoy the match/moment, and not fuss about things like "people looking strong". Cena losing to the Undertaker won't suddenly hurt Cena's status as the face of the company.

(I don't wanna see this match anyway, but that's just coz I don't care about Undertaker matches any more).

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 02:36 PM
Actually swap the belt around in the Rock/Brock match. Brock wins the title at Survivor Series or something, leaving Rock to win the Royal Rumble in Orlando.

Reigns looks good and like he's on his way to winning, and he tosses his good pal Dean Ambrose out, which Ambrose retorts to by tossing Reigns out post-elimination. That sets up that match. It could be for the US Title, but that's only if Bryan doesn't win the title at Hell in a Cell or something.

I think the Rumble could come down to Rock and Cena quite comfortably. Rock wins it, Cena looks dejected and makes the big challenge to Undertaker soon afterwards.

Rollins gets another title shot at the Rumble, having defeated Roman Reigns at TLC for it. Triple H screws Rollins or something, or maybe the turn happens on RAW, and that sets up Rollins vs. Triple H.

Wyatt vs. Orton already had existing heat, and seems like the sort of match the WWE would throw on a WrestleMania card. I think Wyatt would finally get a WrestleMania win there.

I'd swap the belts in the Tag Title match too. The New Day probably do lose them to The Dudleys at some point. They might slip them through until WrestleMania as champs.

Damian Rey
10-25-2015, 02:43 PM
Continues? When hashe Cena ever looked weak for more than a match? Other than jobbing out to Lesnar at Summer Slam last year, to which he immediately bounced back from and had a competitive match to point where it looked as if he'd pull it out in the end, I don't recall him ever looking weak. It's a fairly silly statement.

Also, if losing to the top star of the company is a good thing, how is said top star losing to the franchise star of the company bad? That makes no sense.

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 02:43 PM
As for who wins in Cena vs. Undertaker? It doesn't really matter which way you go. Cena would be gracious enough to get pinned by Taker, and I'm sure Taker doesn't mind putting Cena over at this point. Biggest business would be the Cena heel turn, but I don't see them doing that.

I could see them taking a few guys out of the Battle Royal and doing a WrestleMania Money in the Bank too, so that there's some sort of Ladder Match on the card. Sheamus vs. Barrett vs. Neville vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Rusev vs. Cesaro vs. Ziggler vs. Breeze would be my bet if they went forward with that. Maybe Kane.

Evil Vito
10-25-2015, 02:54 PM
As for who wins in Cena vs. Undertaker? It doesn't really matter which way you go. Cena would be gracious enough to get pinned by Taker, and I'm sure Taker doesn't mind putting Cena over at this point. Biggest business would be the Cena heel turn, but I don't see them doing that.

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure the only feasible way WWE ever could have turned Cena heel and had it get the desired reaction would have been to do Taker vs. Cena at WM 30, both guys going in faces...and then Cena cheats to win the match and end the streak. Would have drawn stunned silence followed by boos. Crying kids in the audience. And it's basically the only way the smarks in the crowd would have booed a Cena heel turn, because it was paired with the one thing most smarks never wanted to see happen (Taker losing at Mania).

At this point, I've just accepted that a Cena heel turn will never happen and frankly it's probably better at this point. Doing it now would just feel forced.</font>

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 02:55 PM
Unless it is absolutely incredible. I still want to see Cena as the leader of the WWE-style Bullet Club.

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 02:59 PM
John Cena
Samoa Joe
Nikki Bella
Mojo Rawley
Zack Ryder

Something like that for a line-up.

Evil Vito
10-25-2015, 03:03 PM
Fun card but you realize Batista is a big deal in Hollywood right now? I doubt he's coming back to be put in a random 6 man tag.

<font color=goldenrod>As long as his schedule allows I would be pretty surprised if they don't find something for Batista to do. When he came back in 2014 he actually signed a deal that ran through WM 32 and had every intention of being back for the long run. He was always going to take some time off to promote Guardians, but I don't know if he anticipated that he himself would have wound up becoming as big of a deal after it was over.

In his podcast with Jericho he struck me as a very loyal guy who loves the business. WWE are supposedly going to try to bring back every able-bodied legend they can to wrestle at this thing. I think Dave would be glad to participate as long as he's not booked into another film before then. Probably would be his final match.</font>

Evil Vito
10-25-2015, 03:11 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Speaking of Jericho...he's one of the on-again/off-again legends I have a tough time figuring out a "spot" for. To his credit he turned down offers to be on WM 30 and WM 31 because they just wanted to randomly stick him into clusterfuck matches.

If Bryan somehow comes back and wins back the IC Title, I could definitely see Jericho accepting a program with Bryan. He's said numerous times that being the guy with the most IC Title reigns ever is what he considers to be his proudest accomplishment in the business. It would be a sensible program and, frankly, it would be a great match to end Jericho's career with because he'll be 45 years old and I have to imagine eventually he's just going to be ready to stop wrestling for good.

So many guys I'd rather see Bryan work against though...Cesaro, Owens, etc. Nothing against Jericho (who is my all-time fav) but I'm just not sure he's a fit anywhere.</font>

Simple Fan
10-25-2015, 03:56 PM
Unless it is absolutely inc. 488dible. I still want to see Cena as the leader of the WWE-answeringstyle Bullet Club.
Death r
John Cena
Samoa Joe
Nikki Bella
Mojo Rawley
Zack Ryder

Something like that for a line-up.

WWE Bulletclub would be Sheamus, Rusev, Barrett type stable considering Bullet club is a group of foreigners.

Damian Rey
10-25-2015, 04:00 PM
I'd actually like to see suit and tie Jericho going against Ambrose. It's something pretty fresh and gives Ambrose a good feud to get his momentum going again.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 07:28 PM
I think CyNick missed the part where I addressed the problems with Brock/Joe in my original post. And I completely disagree with the Batista point -- I think he's actually gone on record saying that he wants to work with Triple H again.

I saw it and didn't like it.

You have Joe debut beat a star and already lose within 4 months. The way you laid out Brock and Joe it didn't make either guy seem special.

As for Dave, i'm not disputing he will come back. I just don't see it in a random 6 man tag. If it was one on one with someone, sure.

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 07:32 PM
I saw it and didn't like it.

You have Joe debut beat a star and already lose within 4 months. The way you laid out Brock and Joe it didn't make either guy seem special.

As for Dave, i'm not disputing he will come back. I just don't see it in a random 6 man tag. If it was one on one with someone, sure.

You said nothing I didn't say, bro.

A random 6-man... it's the Triple H match at WrestleMania, bro.

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 07:32 PM
I'd actually like to see suit and tie Jericho going against Ambrose. It's something pretty fresh and gives Ambrose a good feud to get his momentum going again.

I really want to see that program, but I don't really feel it for a WrestleMania. Unless it was for the IC Title in the opener or something like that.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 07:34 PM
This kinda nonsense kills the fun of wrestling. Some times you just need to enjoy the match/moment, and not fuss about things like "people looking strong". Cena losing to the Undertaker won't suddenly hurt Cena's status as the face of the company.

(I don't wanna see this match anyway, but that's just coz I don't care about Undertaker matches any more).

I'm sure the match would be fine, I just think it's tricky booking. I'm assuming Cena is dropping the US title tonight or tomorrow and doing an injury angle. He's coming back EOY and in theory would come back to a program with whoever put him on the shelf. I guess you could conclude that program between Jan and Feb and heat Cena back up. But it would be more logical for Mania to be the blowoff to that program.

The other problem is Taker. Depending how they book the fight with Lesnar tonight, I think you will come away thinking Taker is pretty much done. In which case is tough to have Cena say I need to prove myself against Taker because A) Taker has just recently been beaten and B) he's already lost at Mania.

Not saying you couldn't make it work, I just don't think it's what you want or what makes sense for Taker in 2016.

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 07:37 PM
You said nothing I didn't say, bro.

A random 6-man... it's the Triple H match at WrestleMania, bro.

You turned a normally special match into a random 6 man. Not smart.

dronepool
10-25-2015, 08:03 PM
John Cena vs Brock Lesnar (Last Man Standing with Stone Cold as Guest Referee )

The Undertaker vs Sting

Triple H vs. Seth Rollins (WWE Championship)

Daniel Bryan vs Kurt Angle (2 out of 3 falls)

Kevin Owens vs Rob Van Dam (IC title)

New Day vs The Dudley Boyz vs The Hardy Boyz (Tag belts TLC match)

Samoa Joe vs Cesaro (US title)

Divas Championship (Kiss My Ass) Battle Royale :naughty:

Rusev vs Randy Orton

The Wyatt Family vs Dean Ambrose, Chris Jericho and Roman Reigns

Dolph Ziggler vs Wade Barret


:wave:

Mr. Nerfect
10-25-2015, 10:33 PM
You turned a normally special match into a random 6 man. Not smart.

Yeah, because you wouldn't build it up as an epic showdown between two dominant factions or anything...

The CyNick
10-25-2015, 11:30 PM
Yeah, because you wouldn't build it up as an epic showdown between two dominant factions or anything...

You mean like they already did with The Shield and The Shield dominated?

So this is the feud of which factions are worse than The Shield?

XL
10-26-2015, 07:19 PM
You could position every match like that. The potential Wyatt/Taker thing we could be getting? A feud between guys who aren't as good as Lesnar or Reigns.

The CyNick
10-27-2015, 11:46 AM
You could position every match like that. The potential Wyatt/Taker thing we could be getting? A feud between guys who aren't as good as Lesnar or Reigns.

Diffrrent spot on the card though. The whole angle is Wyatt took advantage of Taker in a weakened state. Now Taker should seek revenge.

Wyatt v Evo wasn't positioned like that. Plus you would need to turn Hunter face or Orton heel and then have Bats reconcile fir walking out. I'm sure you could get there, but I didn't like it.

Mr. Nerfect
10-27-2015, 03:50 PM
You don't have to like it, CyNick, and I quite frankly couldn't give a shit that you don't, bro. How the fuck do you know how Evolution vs. Wyatts was positioned in my mind? I gave a little bit of a lay-out to give things a general context, but you don't get the full scope of the build or story. Get out of it, bro.

The CyNick
10-27-2015, 04:03 PM
You don't have to like it, CyNick, and I quite frankly couldn't give a shit that you don't, bro. How the fuck do you know how Evolution vs. Wyatts was positioned in my mind? I gave a little bit of a lay-out to give things a general context, but you don't get the full scope of the build or story. Get out of it, bro.

Give me an 8 week arc to get to Mania.

Mr. Nerfect
10-27-2015, 04:16 PM
Hahahahahaha!

XL
10-27-2015, 04:29 PM
Do it, Noid. Do it.

Just know that CyNick will more than likely not enjoy it (who's got the negative glasses on now?).

Mr. Nerfect
10-27-2015, 04:30 PM
If I decide to do it, it'll be for you, XL.

Evil Vito
10-27-2015, 04:32 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Trying to kill time here, so I'll just give this a go. This is likely going to wind up being completely unrealistic but I don't really care, I'm going into EWR mode to book a card that will appeal to me and only me:

World Heavyweight Title - Triple Threat Match
Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns (C)

I have Reigns entering as the champ in this one as a heel as a result of a double turn at Survivor Series. Rollins is forced to run the gauntlet, defeat Triple H at the Royal Rumble merely to earn a spot into the Rumble match, which he then wins in dramatic fashion. Ambrose meanwhile, upset at his "brother"'s change of heart, loses a match to Reigns at the Rumble but somehow wrangles Sheamus' MITB briefcase away from him at Fastlane. Voila, Shield triple threat booked.

John Cena vs. The Undertaker

We all know Taker is going to wrestle at a WM in Texas. There is zero doubt in my mind about it. But who could he possibly have left to wrestle at this point that isn't a stale retread? The answer is Cena. Yes this match would have had way more appeal if the streak were still going on, but it would still be ridiculously fun. I don't know if it would be promoted as Taker's official "retirement match" or what, but I'd still love to see it.

Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman vs. Kevin Owens

Okay, I don't have a particularly good story in mind to set this up. All I know is the very thought of this match makes me ridiculously wet. Hey, it's my fantasy booking...it was either this or Lesnar vs. Cesaro, people! You will notice though that I have Owens dropping the IC Title. I'm all for increasing the belt's prestige, but Lesnar taking the IC belt offscreen is a bit too far fetched. But fear not, because...

Intercontinental Title
Dolph Ziggler vs. Daniel Bryan (C)

I loved the idea of Bryan being a fighting IC champion when he last got injured. And with the main event currently occupied with the Shield triple threat, I would be okay with Bryan beefing up the midcard title scene for the time being. I know Ziggler's held the IC title belt a million times, but in this scenario he's gone heel (something badly needed IMO, his character is a total douche as is), but this would be another excellent match and the crowd will eat up anything Bryan does.

Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton

This is a program I've wanted to see for quite a while, and even though they've partially done it with having Orton interact with the Wyatts, a full blown program was never in the offing. This could be something that can be revisted once Survivor Series passes and Orton is back from his shoulder injury. Realistically they're not going to banish Orton to Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal status, so this would be fun.

United States Title
Cesaro vs. Alberto Del Rio (C) w/ Zeb Colter

Del Rio just cut a promo yesterday in which he laughed at Neville for being an immigrant as he and Zeb look to establish their country of "Mexamerica". Does that mean he hates all Europeans? What about people who are very European? Cesaro and Colter would have plenty of history to draw upon here in promos building to this. You can even have Swagger somehow play a part in this equation assuming somebody in the WWE office remembers that he exists.

Tag Team Titles - Fatal 4 Way Match
The New Day (C) vs. The Usos vs. The Lucha Dragons vs. Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady

WWE loves its fatal 4 way tag team matches at WrestleMania, because it makes for a hot opener and allows for them to squeeze extra guys onto the show without automatically defaulting them to battle royal duty. The New Day should still be champions by WM32, because they are glorious. The Usos are definitely going to be back in contention once Jey is healthy. The Dragons are the most exciting team they have. And Enzo/Cass is probably a stretch, but fuck it - I want to see 100,000 people doing their intro dammit. (Disclaimer: The Dudley Boyz are way more likely for this match assuming they are still in the company by then).

Divas Title - Fatal 4 Way Match
Charlotte (C) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks vs. Bayley

YES I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ANOTHER FATAL 4 WAY MATCH AND LEAVES OFF THE BELLAS THIS WOULD BE WAY BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO IN THIS DIVISION AND IT'S MY WRESTLEMANIA CARD GOD DAMMIT.

Phew...okay, got that out of my system.

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal

Everybody else goes in here, of course. Ideally the winner would get something beyond just the trophy. Maybe an automatic WWE World Heavyweight Title match the next night on Raw? In front of that always shit-hot post-WM crowd that could be a lot of fun.</font>

The CyNick
10-27-2015, 04:38 PM
Do it, Noid. Do it.

Just know that CyNick will more than likely not enjoy it (who's got the negative glasses on now?).

I probably will.

I like the business.

#1-norm-fan
10-27-2015, 05:49 PM
Yeah, but what successful territory has Noid booked?

Rammsteinmad
10-27-2015, 06:18 PM
With Christian officially being on wwe.com's alumni section, now would be the time to make a triumphant comeback, to challenge the one, in 21, for one... more... match.

Simple Fan
10-27-2015, 06:22 PM
Fell like if Shelton Benjamin was to return he would fit right in with the New Day. With the Wyatt family having 4 now Bray going after New Day before Mania because of their constant positivity would work. Have Shelton show up before Mania and and join New Day for a 8 man tag at Mania.

Fox
10-27-2015, 06:53 PM
WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TRIPLE THREAT MATCH
Seth Rollins (c) -VS- Dean Ambrose -VS- Roman Reigns
The Shield members clash in the WWE World Heavyweight Title match at WrestleMania 32. While this match may not close the show, the fact that it's these three men in the WWE Title match on the biggest show of the year will speak volumes for the future of the WWE, as we see more and more up and coming guys make their way up the card.

Winner: Seth Rollins retains and continues his long reign

THE BEAST VERSUS THE DRAGON
Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman -VS- Daniel Bryan
Daniel Bryan is finally cleared to return to the ring. He manages to eliminate Brock Lesnar from the Royal Rumble, starting off the ultimate David versus Goliath feud leading up to WrestleMania. It's a very intense feud with Lesnar and Heyman trying to get Bryan to sign a forfeiture agreement for his own safety.

Winner: Lesnar wins after a hard fought battle - handshake at the end to put over Bryan

THE GAME VERSUS THE BRAHMA BULL - 15 YEARS LATER
Triple H w/ Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley -VS- The Rock w/ Ronda Rousey
The build-up from last year's Mania culminates at the biggest show of the year. McMahon and UFC agree to let Rousey work the event. It's a hard fought match, a bit slower and more in the Attitude Era main event style. Rousey gets involved and puts Stephanie in a shoulder breaker submission.

Winner: The Rock wins with the Rock Bottom

ICON VERSUS LEGEND
SPECIAL GUEST REFEREE: Sting
John Cena -VS- The Undertaker
After losing the Royal Rumble match to Dean Ambrose, John Cena sets his sights on the one thing he's never done - defeated Undertaker at WrestleMania. Cena manages to goad Undertaker out of retirement and gets him to accept the challenge. Sting interjects himself, saying he can't wrestle anymore, but it's always been a dream of his to stand face to face with Undertaker at WrestleMania, and he will do that by acting as the special guest referee.

Winner: John Cena wins with the STF - Undertaker retires the next night on RAW

INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Kevin Owens (c) -VS- Finn Balor
Two guys who set NXT on fire get their first WrestleMania match against one another. This match should be given at least 20 minutes to allow these two amazing competitors to put on a show. This is a showcase of the future of the WWE.

Winner: Finn Balor ends Kevin's long-standing IC Title run

UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Alberto Del Rio (c) -VS- Dolph Ziggler
Ziggler finally gets his moment at WrestleMania when he defeats Del Rio to obtain the hopefully more-valued US Title.

Winner: Dolph Ziggler

MONEY IN THE BANK LADDER MATCH
Ryback -VS- The Miz -VS- Randy Orton -VS- Cesaro -VS- Samoa Joe -VS- Rusev -VS- Sami Zayn
Aside from Orton, this is a battle of up and comers in the WWE. This would be a longer ladder match than past MITB matches, going close to 30 minutes, which less high-spots and more actual wrestling. Cesaro finally gets a step up the ladder with a victory here.

WWE WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
The New Day (c) -VS- The Hardys -VS- The Dudleys -VS- The Vaudevillians
The new era of tag team wrestling meets the old era of tag team wrestling. While the Hardys and Dudleys hit all of their old high spots, in the end, this match is about putting over the New Day and the Vaudevillians. The Vaudevillians manage to sneak a victory and take home the tag titles.

Winners: The Vaudevillians

WWE DIVAS CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Charlotte (c) -VS- Bayley
What looks like it will be a face versus face encounter turns bad when Charlotte turns heel against her NXT pal. Charlotte takes some of her dad's old swagger, coming to the ring dressed in expensive women's business suits, talking about screwing hot men in every city, and of course, acting like God's gift to the wrestling world. Bayley gets the big babyface win.

Winner: Bayley

Rammsteinmad
10-27-2015, 08:00 PM
WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP TRIPLE THREAT MATCH
Seth Rollins (c) -VS- Dean Ambrose -VS- Roman Reigns
The Shield members clash in the WWE World Heavyweight Title match at WrestleMania 32. While this match may not close the show, the fact that it's these three men in the WWE Title match on the biggest show of the year will speak volumes for the future of the WWE, as we see more and more up and coming guys make their way up the card.

Winner: Seth Rollins retains and continues his long reign

THE BEAST VERSUS THE DRAGON
Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman -VS- Daniel Bryan
Daniel Bryan is finally cleared to return to the ring. He manages to eliminate Brock Lesnar from the Royal Rumble, starting off the ultimate David versus Goliath feud leading up to WrestleMania. It's a very intense feud with Lesnar and Heyman trying to get Bryan to sign a forfeiture agreement for his own safety.

Winner: Lesnar wins after a hard fought battle - handshake at the end to put over Bryan

Absolutely approve of both of these so much. But Bryan against Lesnar would not be a good idea. For Bryan's own benefit (unless he's 100% and pretty much ready to retire after, coz I don't think they'll be much left of him).

Innovator
10-27-2015, 08:12 PM
Shield 3 way for Title
Cena vs. Taker
Triple H vs. Rock
Sami Zayn vs. Owens for IC Title
US Title Ladder Match
Sasha Banks v. Nikki for Women's Championship (If Sasha wins, title is renamed)
ATG Battle Royal
Bray vs. Cesaro
Legends Battle Royal

ADDENDUM
Daniel Bryan vs. Shinsuke Nakamura

Mr. Nerfect
10-27-2015, 09:20 PM
Love Vito's card so much. Del Rio vs. Cesaro is a perfect choice for a US Title match.

Fox
10-27-2015, 09:21 PM
Absolutely approve of both of these so much. But Bryan against Lesnar would not be a good idea. For Bryan's own benefit (unless he's 100% and pretty much ready to retire after, coz I don't think they'll be much left of him).

I do feel the same way and don't want Bryan to end up in a wheelchair or worse because I wanted to see this match.

However, maybe after a year on the shelf, Bryan will be fully healed and ready to have a high impact match.

Mr. Nerfect
10-27-2015, 09:23 PM
I wanted to see Brock vs. Bryan at last year's WrestleMania, but I feel like the time for it has somewhat passed. I'd rather see Owens vs. Bryan now.

Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2015, 09:01 PM
I've changed my mind on Owens vs. Bryan. I now want to see Owens vs. Ziggler.

* The match will be good, and it will be one of the better IC Title showings at a Mania ever.

* The dynamic between Owens and Ziggler -- visually and personality wise -- would create an aesthetic vibe about the match.

* Ziggler has never had a one-on-one match at WrestleMania. Ever. A lot of people think that something is missing with him, and you can't quite put your finger on it. Maybe part of that intangible is that he's never been given the nod to actually try and properly steal the big show?

I'd have Mick Foley paired up with Ziggler on-air. Not to talk for Dolph, but with him. The two could have some funny interactions together, Foley could put over Ziggler well, and sell Owens.

Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2015, 09:14 PM
Something I want to float:

Would the idea of Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena for the WWE World Title at WrestleMania 32 disgust everybody? They're the two biggest stars the WWE has access to (not including The Rock). I've liked the idea of the Shield Triple Threat, which I didn't have for the title originally, then I did, now I don't again. Rollins, Reigns & Ambrose will get their moment and have their main events, but I'm not sure if it's meant to be now. I get that you can shove them out there and say "STARS!", but maybe there is more value in using them to pad out the undercard with meaning, then you can re-run the match at a later WrestleMania over the title.

Brock beating Rollins and then Cena winning the Rumble sets up that obvious "here are the top two guys fighting for the World Title" match. You'd probably still run Triple H vs. Rock with the Steph/Rousey stuff on the go. The Undertaker will be there. Shield Triple Threat. That Owens vs. Ziggler match. The most anticipated Divas Title match in WWE history.

The Night of Champions finish after the SummerSlam destruction of Cena was the last time these two interacted. It doesn't feel fresh, but there's the obvious story of Cena redemption with over 18 months rehab -- and make no mistake about it, they are rehabbing that match.

This would probably leave you with something like:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. John Cena

If The Rock wins, Ronda Rousey gets 5 minutes with Stephanie McMahon
Triple H vs. The Rock

Casket Match
The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt

Triple Threat Match
Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose

Divas Championship
Sasha Banks (c) vs. Charlotte

Intercontinental Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler

WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. The Usos

10-Divas Tag Team Match
The Bella Twins, Alicia Fox, Paige & Asuka vs. Trish Stratus, Lita, Becky Lynch, Natalya & Bayley

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Sheamus (holder) vs. King Barrett vs. Randy Orton vs. Cesaro vs. Neville vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Chris Jericho

United States Championship
Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. Samoa Joe

Or something like that.

Damian Rey
11-01-2015, 09:46 PM
I'd feel better about Cena Taker, only because it's maybe the freshest match they could possibly come up with for those two.

Lesnar v Reigns (c)- WHC
Cena v Taker
Rollins v HHH
Ambrose v Jericho
Zayn v Owens- IC title
Mysterio v Del Rio (c)- US title v mask match
The Usos v The New Day (c)-2 on 3 for tag titles
Sasha Banks v Charlotte (c)- Divas title
The Rock v Bray Wyatt
Andre the Giant battle royal- winner receives title match at Extreme Rules

#1-norm-fan
11-01-2015, 10:20 PM
I wouldn't really mind Cena-Lesnar if they built it right. My only problem is that they booked it last year as a B-show main event which kills some of the aura that a WrestleMania main event should carry with it. It's the same reason I was against Punk and Cena ever headlining WrestleMania. But if they did a good job of putting focus on the recent history and treating it as a "final showdown" it could work.

I've been thinking about a potential Reigns vs Cena main event just because it would be interesting to see what the crowd does. I don't think it would suffer from the same danger they were in if they went with Batista and Orton at 30 because, unlike with that, the crowd actually DOES care about Cena and Reigns. For better or worse. It would be interesting to see if the crowd gets behind Cena as he's gone a long way toward endearing himself to the smark crowd. Would they actually back Cena as the man who can prevent the birth of the next Cena?

Damian Rey
11-01-2015, 10:21 PM
Cena Reigns does sound like an excellent headlining match

#1-norm-fan
11-01-2015, 11:16 PM
Ideally, I think my preferred main event at the moment would be for Rollins to hold on to the title 'til WrestleMania, Lesnar to win the Rumble and then Reigns to dupe Sheamus into putting his MITB contract on the line somehow and winning it.

Then Reigns uses the case to announce before-hand that he's making the WrestleMania main event a rematch of last year a Rollins isn't gonna be able to sneak his way to a win this time. Maybe even hold the threat of a random cash-in over Rollins' and the authority's heads in order to get Austin put in as the guest ref/enforcer just so there's no chance of any funny business.

As much as I don't like Rollins as a WrestleMania headliner and think his reign has been shit, I can't really think of a good marquee matchup for the title and at least this one would tell a good story based on last year.

Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2015, 08:48 AM
I'd feel better about Cena Taker, only because it's maybe the freshest match they could possibly come up with for those two.

Lesnar v Reigns (c)- WHC
Cena v Taker
Rollins v HHH
Ambrose v Jericho
Zayn v Owens- IC title
Mysterio v Del Rio (c)- US title v mask match
The Usos v The New Day (c)-2 on 3 for tag titles
Sasha Banks v Charlotte (c)- Divas title
The Rock v Bray Wyatt
Andre the Giant battle royal- winner receives title match at Extreme Rules

That's a good card. A damn good card. I've wanted to see Rock vs. Wyatt for the longest time. Like Cesaro/Cena or Lesnar/Bryan, I don't feel that the timing is currently right though. Maybe in Minneapolis?

Everything else is sound. I'm not sure if they could get Mysterio back, but the idea had crossed my mind. I'm going back to Del Rio vs. Cesaro. I've changed my mind, and as much as I do sincerely believe that a Samoa Joe Survivor Series debut and undefeated run into WrestleMania could shake things up -- he's either in or past his prime now, why hold back? etc. -- I think you could flesh him out on NXT and advertise him at WrestleMania for RAW the next night. The crowd will still be hot and you can feel like something is starting.

Zayn/Owens I'm actually against. Not vehemently, but just on a preference level. I know they could have Zayn return and build it up on WWE TV, but I just feel like it's an "NXT feud." And beyond that, I think it shoots Zayn up above other stars, and I sort of like this idea of a "structure" that doesn't put too many first-timers on at WrestleMania. It's a bit old-school, and it's not something I've got set in stone, but I'd rather see Owens develop a feud with someone currently active, conclude the story with them, then move into a fresh feud with Sami Zayn post-Mania. It starts the new chapter of the wrestling book after Mania closes the old one.

Ambrose vs. Jericho could work. I've wanted to see it for a long time. Again, I'm not sure if timing is right, but Heel Jericho vs. Face Ambrose is money as an upper mid-card program. If you're running it, in my opinion, I'd at least suggest the idea of having Zayn cost Owens the IC Title to Ambrose (or at least getting involved somehow), and Jericho vs. Ambrose actually being over the IC Title and Owens/Zayn being more personal. Not sure if it really matters, but it's worth pitching.

The only other one that makes me...mmm, is Brock vs. Reigns II as the main event. I'm not against Brock vs. Reigns, per se, but if they run it, I'd like them to have Brock toss Reigns in the Rumble, and Reigns to show some balls by getting his in and tossing Brock. Make it more personal. It kind of gives the subconscious idea that the main event of Mania last year is the semi this year.

So much innuendo in there... Good for a macho display of dominance, yeah?

Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2015, 08:51 AM
I wouldn't really mind Cena-Lesnar if they built it right. My only problem is that they booked it last year as a B-show main event which kills some of the aura that a WrestleMania main event should carry with it. It's the same reason I was against Punk and Cena ever headlining WrestleMania. But if they did a good job of putting focus on the recent history and treating it as a "final showdown" it could work.

I've been thinking about a potential Reigns vs Cena main event just because it would be interesting to see what the crowd does. I don't think it would suffer from the same danger they were in if they went with Batista and Orton at 30 because, unlike with that, the crowd actually DOES care about Cena and Reigns. For better or worse. It would be interesting to see if the crowd gets behind Cena as he's gone a long way toward endearing himself to the smark crowd. Would they actually back Cena as the man who can prevent the birth of the next Cena?

Get ya. Cena vs. Reigns has also been on my mind, and I flip-flop on it. I have a feeling the crowd actually would reject Reigns and back Cena, ala Hogan/Rock, WrestleMania X-8. It might not be a bad thing, but I kind of like them saving it to SummerSlam or something.

Another idea for Brock/Cena is making it Title vs. Career, but that might be telegraphing too much. Cena could even drop a reference to an infamous line when he says "I need to beat you, Brock". Cena could -- hypothetically -- cheat to beat Brock, write him out of storylines, and Reigns could be built as a SummerSlam challenger. Not the current en vogue style of booking, but it could be done. Hypothetically, again.

Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2015, 08:54 AM
Ideally, I think my preferred main event at the moment would be for Rollins to hold on to the title 'til WrestleMania, Lesnar to win the Rumble and then Reigns to dupe Sheamus into putting his MITB contract on the line somehow and winning it.

Then Reigns uses the case to announce before-hand that he's making the WrestleMania main event a rematch of last year a Rollins isn't gonna be able to sneak his way to a win this time. Maybe even hold the threat of a random cash-in over Rollins' and the authority's heads in order to get Austin put in as the guest ref/enforcer just so there's no chance of any funny business.

As much as I don't like Rollins as a WrestleMania headliner and think his reign has been shit, I can't really think of a good marquee matchup for the title and at least this one would tell a good story based on last year.

It's not bad. I personally think they should be using Brock for Survivor Series and this should be the "true form" of that main event. I agree with you on the general principle though -- the story does work and it might not bomb with Lesnar in there.

My big emotional gripe is that it leaves Ambrose in the dark. I don't know if I'm being too attached, but I just feel that he should have some presence in whatever it is Reigns and Rollins do together, if it is, in fact, together. I guess Ambrose could get more shine elsewhere on the card and could potentially ride it to challenge or turn heel...but eh. I think I'm just on board with Ambrose vs. Rollins vs. Reigns too much.

Blonde Moment
11-02-2015, 09:16 AM
Put Ambrose with Del Rio instead. Throw Jericho in the Andre the Giant Battle Royale and maybe have Mysterio come in to either save Ambrose after the match or cost Ambrose the match.

Mr. Nerfect
11-02-2015, 09:52 AM
Del Rio vs. Ambrose works. :y:

The CyNick
11-02-2015, 10:50 AM
Reigns-Cena is a bad idea in front of a Mania crowd. There will be "you both suck" chants.

Hard to imagine Brock not in the mix for the title. Unless they have a part timer working with Lesnar. But Austin was the only outside guy that interested me right now.

#1-norm-fan
11-02-2015, 06:44 PM
It's not bad. I personally think they should be using Brock for Survivor Series and this should be the "true form" of that main event. I agree with you on the general principle though -- the story does work and it might not bomb with Lesnar in there.

My big emotional gripe is that it leaves Ambrose in the dark. I don't know if I'm being too attached, but I just feel that he should have some presence in whatever it is Reigns and Rollins do together, if it is, in fact, together. I guess Ambrose could get more shine elsewhere on the card and could potentially ride it to challenge or turn heel...but eh. I think I'm just on board with Ambrose vs. Rollins vs. Reigns too much.

My idea for Ambrose on the card was for them to slowly keep building the tension with Jericho that started at Night of Champions. Jericho tries to help Ambrose against The Wyatts again but this time, he walks out. He refuses to explain his actions and just leaves again for a month or so. Eventually he returns around Rumble time to cost Ambrose in a title match. When approached by Renee backstage to explain his actions, he finally says he'll do it on his time and books Ambrose on The Highlight Reel.

That's when he explains his actions face to face to Ambrose...

"The reason I've done the things I've done to you... is because I respect you. You've got an old soul. One that would have fit in quite well in this business when I was coming up. When it was full of men scratching and clawing their way past each other. But when I look at those guys backstage... they're soft. They're too busy playing video games to take that brass ring. Giving you all the opportunity in the world to leave them in your wake on the way to the top. But instead, you let them bring you down to their level. You became weak.

I could have just accepted your offer and helped you against The Wyatts. But where would that leave you? I won't be around forever. And you'd be left weak and fragile. And I respect you too much to watch that happen. So I had to leave you to the wolves. It was the only way. If this new generation is to thrive, it doesn't need another passive, weak gaming nerd who comes begging for help when the odds are against him. It needs another Chris Jericho."

When Ambrose goes to respond, Jericho decks him and proceeds to lay a beating on him that borders on non-PG. Maybe even throw him through the Jeri-tron ala HBK or something. Ambrose has to take a couple weeks off but through a in interview with Cole via satellite makes it clear that he'll be ready for WrestleMania. He does a little defense for "his generation" and tells Jericho that at WrestleMania, he's not gonna prove he's the new Chris Jericho. He's gonna prove something much more scary. That he's the first Dean Ambrose.

From there, the drama mostly just builds over the next month or two via promos/hype videos and Jericho using other guys to send a message to Ambrose. Everytime Ambrose tries to get at him though, Triple H is sure to send tons of security to stop him since he's not cleared for action until WrestleMania and he doesn't want WWE to be held accountable for what might happen to him.

I know Ambrose getting his hands on Jericho the very next week and the two of them trading wins back and forth through a variety of tag matches in the weeks leading up to WrestleMania would be the genius way to go for SOME people here, I feel like my idea is a better way to build heat/anticipation for the match. I DUNNO THO.

Damian Rey
11-02-2015, 08:01 PM
Will you marry me, Fan? Brilliant booking.

weather vane
11-02-2015, 10:54 PM
Seth Rollins (c) vs Roman Reigns vs Dean Ambrose - World Title
Roman Reigns wins with the help of The Authority thus turning heel

Brock Lesnar vs Bray Wyatt
Lots of backstory with The Undertaker stuff. Would be a killer build up. Wyatt Family helps Bray squeak out a win.

The Rock/Ronda Rousey vs Triple H/Stephanie McMahon

John Cena vs The Undertaker - Last Match Ever

Daniel Bryan vs Kurt Angle
Build up is both of them talking about wanting to steal the show. To try to outdo all the past great Wrestlemania moments.

Kevin Owens (c) vs Sami Zayn - IC Title

Alberto Del Rio (c) vs Samoa Joe - US Title
Alberto has an open challenge. Joe debuts and destroys him.

The New Day (c) vs Dudley Boyz vs Lucha Dragons vs The Usos - TLC Match

Charlotte (c) vs Becky Lynch - Steel Cage Match

Andre the Giant Battle Royal - Winner is Money in the Bank - Big Show vs Kane vs Randy Orton vs Dolph Ziggler vs Rusev vs Cesaro vs Neville vs Ryback vs Sheamus vs Wade Barrett vs Stardust vs Jack Swagger vs Mark Henry vs The Miz vs R Truth vs Tyler Breeze vs Zach Ryder vs Damien Sandow vs Bo Dallas vs Curtis Axel

broverboard
11-03-2015, 07:14 AM
Roman Reigns (c) vs The Rock - WHC
The Authorities new face of the WWE goes over the Royal Rumble winner clean

HHH vs Seth Rollins
Face Rollins over HHH with help from Sting. Feud starts after HHH screws Rollins out of the WHC

Brock Lesnar vs Ambrose
Brock wins but only just. Match ends with a show of respect from Brock. Feud kicks off when Heyman claims Brocks has beat everyone there is to beat and no one is crazy enough to challenge him - Ambrose of course is crazy enough

Undertaker vs John Cena

Kevins Owens (c) vs Daniel Bryan - IC Title
Owens over

Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton
Wyatt wins but post match his "monsters" beat him down writing off TV for a while before returning as a face

Cesaro vs Alberto Del Rio (c) - US Title
After a long chase Cesaro wins the US Title

The New Day (c) vs The Usos vs The Dudley Boyz - TLC for the Tag Titles

Becky Lynch vs Charlotte (c) vs Sasha Banks - Divas Title

Pre - Show
Andre the Giant Battle Royal
Fatal Four-Way No 1 Contenders Match for the Divas Title

#1-norm-fan
11-03-2015, 07:38 AM
Owens over Bryan is another idea I had.

I thought it would be cool if they actually made a storyline about Bryan being cleared by doctors... but not the WWE doctors. Have Triple H try to prevent him from stepping back into the ring because he's not convinced it's safe. After a lot of fighting and maybe even a second "'Yes' movement" Bryan gets a match to reclaim the IC title against Kevin Owens. It seems like it's all leading to a triumphant WrestleMania moment for Bryan... but he loses. And from there you can have Triple H mockingly asking Bryan if he's okay the next night on Raw and basically spending the next few weeks saying "I told you so". This could lead to many possibilities including a feud between Bryan and a newly beefed up "Authority" stable that could keep him very relevant but not necessarily in the title picture.

#1-norm-fan
11-03-2015, 07:39 AM
Also, I'd like to place my vote now for broverboard as best new poster. He currently has the best success rate of posts I've ever seen.

Innovator
11-03-2015, 10:46 AM
Owens over Bryan is another idea I had.

I thought it would be cool if they actually made a storyline about Bryan being cleared by doctors... but not the WWE doctors. Have Triple H try to prevent him from stepping back into the ring because he's not convinced it's safe. After a lot of fighting and maybe even a second "'Yes' movement" Bryan gets a match to reclaim the IC title against Kevin Owens. It seems like it's all leading to a triumphant WrestleMania moment for Bryan... but he loses. And from there you can have Triple H mockingly asking Bryan if he's okay the next night on Raw and basically spending the next few weeks saying "I told you so". This could lead to many possibilities including a feud between Bryan and a newly beefed up "Authority" stable that could keep him very relevant but not necessarily in the title picture.
Hence why Bryan, against WWE doctors orders, goes to NJPW Wrestle Kingdom X and faces Shinsuke Nakamura, taking the IWGP Intercontinental Championship. At Wrestlemania, the return match happens. YEOH.

Mr. Nerfect
11-03-2015, 11:08 AM
Owens over Bryan is another idea I had.

I thought it would be cool if they actually made a storyline about Bryan being cleared by doctors... but not the WWE doctors. Have Triple H try to prevent him from stepping back into the ring because he's not convinced it's safe. After a lot of fighting and maybe even a second "'Yes' movement" Bryan gets a match to reclaim the IC title against Kevin Owens. It seems like it's all leading to a triumphant WrestleMania moment for Bryan... but he loses. And from there you can have Triple H mockingly asking Bryan if he's okay the next night on Raw and basically spending the next few weeks saying "I told you so". This could lead to many possibilities including a feud between Bryan and a newly beefed up "Authority" stable that could keep him very relevant but not necessarily in the title picture.

Love your Jericho/Ambrose idea, and this one too. It's pretty much how I would have done it Owens/Bryan -- with the same result too. Owens could play a jerk really well in this feud.

After Mania, and people may not be on board with this, I also had the idea that there would be a segment where Sami Zayn emerges as Owens' next IC Title challenger. Bryan is involved in the segment, and talks about how he laid it all on the line against Owens and came up short. He then turns his attention to Sami Zayn and asks him "Do you really think you can do what I couldn't?" and proceeds to kick the living crap out of an unsuspecting Sami Zayn.

Would a Bryan heel turn work? Well, let me at least explain my reasoning for it:

* Bryan's babyface style relies on him going balls to the wall. A heel style -- one which he also works fantastically well -- would mean he could throw himself around less and appear more methodical. It might prolong his career by quite a margin.

* The best heel turns are the shocking ones. No one sees a Bryan heel turn happening (or working).

* If anyone can get cheered against Bryan, it would be someone as likable as Sami Zayn.

* It sort of passes the torch to Zayn as the new "We believe in you" guy.

* I truly believe that a Daniel Bryan that has let the chip on his shoulder to come back and be the savior he was originally labelled mold him into a deluded maniac could be a really hot gimmick for him. Face Bryan, as beloved as he is, has lost any steam as being "the guy."

Mr. Nerfect
11-03-2015, 11:09 AM
Also, I'd like to place my vote now for broverboard as best new poster. He currently has the best success rate of posts I've ever seen.

Here, here.

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 11:40 AM
Bryan vs Owens would be great! In terms of match quality/star power, I'm liking the idea of:

Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE title

Kevin Owens vs. Daniel Bryan for the Intercontinental title

And Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock for the big, mainstream attraction match.

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 11:41 AM
Not really fussed about the Rock, but there's really nobody on Lesnar's level, nor anyone that genuinely looks like they could be a threat to Lesnar. Rock has enough star power, and I'd rather see him face Lesnar than Triple H.

Plus, he's fooking massive! If anyone looks like they could kick Lesnar's ass it's the Rock.

DAMN iNATOR
11-03-2015, 12:08 PM
Not really fussed about the Rock, but there's really nobody on Lesnar's level, nor anyone that genuinely looks like they could be a threat to Lesnar. Rock has enough star power, and I'd rather see him face Lesnar than Triple H.

Plus, he's fooking massive! If anyone looks like they could kick Lesnar's ass it's the Rock.

Unfortunately, since his WM 31 appearance kinda already set it up, it looks like we're getting Rock v. HHH or Rock/Rousey v. HHH/Stephanie for WM 32.

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 12:20 PM
Yeah I know. :(

I've gone over this so many times. I have no interest in seeing Triple H at Wrestlemania again.

Sixx
11-03-2015, 12:22 PM
Get some other old man to get his ass kicked by Triple H in his debut match at WM.

Sixx
11-03-2015, 12:22 PM
Triple H v Goerge Foreman

Simple Fan
11-03-2015, 12:41 PM
Not really fussed about the Rock, but there's really nobody on Lesnar's level, nor anyone that genuinely looks like they could be a threat to Lesnar. Rock has enough star power, and I'd rather see him face Lesnar than Triple H.

Plus, he's fooking massive! If anyone looks like they could kick Lesnar's ass it's the Rock.

Same here, have no intreset in seeing The Rock vs HHH. Don't want Rousey on the card either unless she signs with WWE down the line some year. Would rather see Brock vs The Rock or The Rock vs Finn Balor.

DAMN iNATOR
11-03-2015, 12:43 PM
Yeah I know. :(

I've gone over this so many times. I have no interest in seeing Triple H at Wrestlemania again.

Same. He really does just need to focus on his administrative career.

Sixx
11-03-2015, 12:47 PM
Same here, have no intreset in seeing The Rock vs HHH. Don't want Rousey on the card either unless she signs with WWE down the line some year. Would rather see Brock vs The Rock or The Rock vs Finn Balor.

Heh, what good reason could Rousey have for signing up with WWE? Unless maybe when she's old and broken.

DAMN iNATOR
11-03-2015, 12:54 PM
The thought (OBVI) is that it would just be a one match blow off sort of thing so they can say they didn't have her and Rock interrupt HHH & Steph @ WM 31.

But whatever. Like others say, leave "Ravishing" Ronda Rude out of WM 32 altogether, no HHH or Steph in any match, and if they MUST find a way to have Rock on the show, maybe find some way to have him put over one of the up-and-coming guys without having to necessarily wrestle them.

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 01:23 PM
Would rather see Brock vs The Rock or The Rock vs Finn Balor.

Lol where'd that come from?

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 01:26 PM
On the subject of booking Wrestlemania, is it safe to assume Orton and Rusev will be absent. Slowly piecing together my (realistic) fantasy card. Oron and Rusev being injured gives me two less people to worry about. :D

Simple Fan
11-03-2015, 01:28 PM
Lol where'd that come from?

I don't know, just feel like it would be a great match up and could be used to push Balor to the next level.

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 01:29 PM
Fair enough. Rock looks like he could probably kill Balor.

Gonna hold off any fantasy booking Balor until next years Mania. His entrance would be incredible, but would be wasted if they did it at WM32 already.

Simple Fan
11-03-2015, 01:33 PM
On the subject of booking Wrestlemania, is it safe to assume Orton and Rusev will be absent. Slowly piecing together my (realistic) fantasy card. Oron and Rusev being injured gives me two less people to worry about. :D

Orton could be out 4 to 6 months I heard. Vould be back just in time for Mania, he's been 12 straight Manias so if he can I'd imagine he would. Don't know anything about Rusev though.

The CyNick
11-03-2015, 04:09 PM
Same here, have no intreset in seeing The Rock vs HHH. Don't want Rousey on the card either unless she signs with WWE down the line some year. Would rather see Brock vs The Rock or The Rock vs Finn Balor.

Rousey can generate media attention unlike almost anyone else. She seems very interested. I don't see the problem with including her in an attraction match.

The CyNick
11-03-2015, 04:10 PM
Fair enough. Rock looks like he could probably kill Balor.

Gonna hold off any fantasy booking Balor until next years Mania. His entrance would be incredible, but would be wasted if they did it at WM32 already.

No point of rushing Balor. If anything he should headline NXT for another year then be brought up. Maybe bring him in right after 32.

Innovator
11-03-2015, 04:15 PM
Yeah I feel like Finn is getting the post Mania call up.

Evil Vito
11-03-2015, 04:49 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Finn is definitely a surefire post-WM call up.

They usually bring up several new guys after Mania. I'd have to guess at least one tag team will come up: either Enzo/Cass w/ Carmella, or The Vaudevillains. Sadly I can't see either team translating well on the main roster despite absolutely loving them on NXT.

If Itami comes back soon and re-establishes himself quickly he may come up too, but I also feel like he's going to be a main roster flop. Not for lack of talent, more just his size and promo limitations. Probably better to stagger the call-ups if at all possible even if the night after Mania is meant to be the "traditional" time to bring up new names.</font>

Simple Fan
11-03-2015, 05:55 PM
Rousey can generate media attention unlike almost anyone else. She seems very interested. I don't see the problem with including her in an attraction match.

I know she's a draw but if she's not with the company, I don't want to see her doing anything. He current boss bashes the product regularly and has said he doesn't want her doing anything physical. Why give her a spot when you could use that time to push your own talent and maybe create your own Rousey. All for her joining WWE after her MMA career but putting her in a WWE match with Stephani at that matter would be dumb in my opinion.

Damian Rey
11-03-2015, 05:56 PM
If they paired Heyman up with Rousey as her mouthpiece, and treated her as essentially female Brock Lesnar, it's an instant money printing device. A legitimate athlete with tangible credentials coming in and mauling the divas division, all the while Heyman cutting meaningful promos on the divas as well. Yes please.

I look at how Lesnar created a big match feel and spectacle as champion and see Rousey As easily capable of doing the same in the divas division. Not to mention, she'd be a legitimate draw.

Rammsteinmad
11-03-2015, 06:26 PM
It gets to the point with all these "big match feel" outsiders that I wonder why they even bother having a regular roster anymore. I get that all these guys like The Rock and Brock Lesnar and even Ronda Rousey will garner more interest than a guy like, say, Dolph Ziggler, who busts his ass every day of the year, but why should anyone get emotionally invested in guys like Ziggler or Cody Rhodes or anyone else when it's clear that the WWE themselves don't view them to be stars.

I understand from a business point-of-view that they want to sell tickets and generate mainstream interest, but as a fan of all these guys like Ziggler, Rhodes, Barrett and Cesaro etc, it's almost as if WWE themselves are flat-out saying "these guys aren't superstars, so let's not even bother".

Mr. Nerfect
11-03-2015, 06:36 PM
I completely agree Rammsteinmad. The art is in using these names to create new stars and raise the current roster, as well as knowing when to hold back with some of them.

Damian Rey
11-03-2015, 08:14 PM
I agree as well. Lesnar is the only part timer I'm interested in. If Rousey were to be on board, it's gotta be with consistent appearances. Maybe not house shows and what not, but a focal point of weekly television and monthly matches. She's gotta be wrestling regularly for me to invest in the idea of seeing her in a wresting ring.

Otherwise it's just a waste. I do love the way they used Lesnar from Rumble 2014 through Battleground this year, as he was progressively built and had on going storylines, even if he wasn't regularly featured. He's wrestled on 5 shows this year. Think that's most since his return. I'd like Rousy to be more involved, but the template for Brock this year has been miles better than the appearance rate of guys like Rock, Taker and HHH.

Mr. Nerfect
11-03-2015, 09:30 PM
Rousey is definitely someone I would use at this WrestleMania, if she were willing, ready and GABLE!

The CyNick
11-04-2015, 10:57 AM
Yeah Im not even the biggest Rousey fan, but if they could get her to do something similar to Brock, I think that would be effective.

I just don't know how the contract details would work between UFC and WWE.

Damian Rey
11-04-2015, 03:02 PM
Pay her enough royalties and upside to pull her away?

Damian Rey
11-04-2015, 03:06 PM
Really, the time to strike on signing Rousey is see how many fights she's contacted for, and try and negotiate a deal near the end of those terms with money, incentives and royalties comparable enough to lure her away. There's also the pitch that, as a seemingly legit fan she'd be interested in crossing over anyway. Just a matter of timing and if Vince can pony up.

Simple Fan
11-04-2015, 03:14 PM
They're going to have to build up some Divas to put her against. Not interested in seeing her in a 5 minute divas match when you know the fight wouldn't last 15 seconds. She could have an arm bar challenge where anyone can try to last 2 minutes without Ronda applying the arm bar. Men could even do it.

Rammsteinmad
11-04-2015, 03:25 PM
The only possible reason I'd wanna see Ronda Rousey in WWE, is in a no-DQ match again Eva Marie or whatever that redheads name is.

Simple Fan
11-04-2015, 03:50 PM
That would probably end up with a Eva botch that injures Ronda and they have to call the match so Eva wins. Ronda goes undefeated in MMA and loses a match to Eva Marie.

Blonde Moment
11-04-2015, 10:14 PM
That would probably end up with a Eva botch that injures Ronda and they have to call the match so Eva wins. Ronda goes undefeated in MMA and loses a match to Eva Marie.

A career ender. Ronda ends up having to resort to bad Syfy TV movies and Monster Trucks to pay the bills.
Eva ends up being the longest running Divas Champion in history eclipsing all other diva reigns combined

mike adamle
11-07-2015, 02:05 PM
The problem isn't the part time stars. The problem is the fact that they unified the world titles. As soon as they got rid of the World Heavyweight Title wrestlers like Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, and the like lost their "world title contender" status because no one could realistically see them being the best in the company with only one world title, which makes it so those guys don't really make sense matching it up with guys like Brock Lesnar or The Undertaker, because they aren't up to that ranking. The World Heavyweight Title put them at World Title status, and matches between Brock Lesnar and Sheamus didn't seem so unrealistic a few years ago, say when Sheamus was World Champ.

Simple Fan
11-07-2015, 04:57 PM
Ehh. Like it better with only one. With 2 World champions one of them is always looked at as better and what's the point of being a world champ if people perceive you the second world champ. Only way it works is with a brand split and I don't think they will go back to that right now.

#1-norm-fan
11-07-2015, 06:36 PM
Exactly They weren't the best in the company. That's why having a second world championship just so you could pretend they were was lame. You don't make stars by slapping a title on a guy and pretending.

The CyNick
11-07-2015, 07:17 PM
It's odd how people mark out for a title being called a "world title". Now they just have the guys who used to compete for the 2nd world title competing for the IC and US titles

XL
11-08-2015, 07:01 AM
Back to the drawing boards, guys. No Shield Triple Threat.

Rammsteinmad
11-08-2015, 11:50 AM
My entire fantasy Wrestlemania has gone out the window now! Might as well cancel the event. Good job, Rollins. :y:

slik
11-08-2015, 01:44 PM
Guaaaac

Simple Fan
11-08-2015, 02:19 PM
Might as well rebook WM to.

WWE WHC: Brock Leaner(c) vs The Rock(rumble winner)

US Championship: John Cena(c) vs Roman Reigns

Dean Ambrose vs HHH(Last Man Standing)

Undertaker vs Kane

IC Championship: Kevin Owens(c) vs Cesaro vs Chris Jericho vs Alberto Del Rio

Sting vs Stardust

Tag Team Championships: Dudley Boys(c) vs the Uso (tables match)

Wyatt Family vs New Day (with Shelton Benjamin)

Divas Championship: Paige(c) vs Sascha Banks (cage match)


Pre Show: Charlotte & Becky Lynch vs Bella Twins vs Naomi & Tamina

Nattie vs Bayley

Andre the Giant Battle Royal for a US title shot: Big Show, Neville, Sheamus, R Truth, The Mix, Curtis Axle, Sandow, Titus Oniel, Darren Young, Konnor, Viktor, Rusev, King Barrett, Adam Rose, Jack Swagger, Fandango, Tyler Breeze, Fernando, Diego, El Toronto, Hornswoggle, Mark Henry, Samoa Joe, Heath Slater, Zach Ryder, Ryback, Barron Corbin, Bo Dallas, Kevin Nash

Put Ambrose in the HHH match and put Del Rio where I had Ambrose. And added Shelton Benjamin to the New Day in light of the Wyatt's being 4 strong now.

Mr. Nerfect
11-10-2015, 07:23 PM
Rollins being out changes things, but I'm thinking they just do Reigns vs. Brock and Triple H vs. Ambrose. If they can get Rock, maybe they put him with Kevin Owens at this point? That feud would be pretty good on the mic and liven things up.

The CyNick
11-17-2015, 10:49 AM
I feel like they should keep Hunter strong until Rollins comes back. Unless they want to go with Reigns vs Hunter for the title at Mania, which I could see.

I'm guessing Hunter starts to assemble a new Authority faction after Survivor Series. I'm guessing Roman wins the title there, and then is beaten down by a new Authority group to keep Reigns busy until Mania. I've got a feeling Cesaro is turning heel, but we'll see.

Cena-Reigns
Taker-Wyatt
Lesnar-Goldberg or Batista or Angle
Hunter-Cesaro

That's my guess right now.

The CyNick
11-17-2015, 11:03 AM
Double post

Big Vic
11-17-2015, 11:07 AM
Do you see Reigns staying face and sheamus cashing in sunday?

The CyNick
11-17-2015, 11:38 AM
I hope that's not what happens. Watching the TV, I just hope either Roman wins clean or he is screwed and it ends up Kevin Owens is the new Authority guy, and they feud. But I think Roman needs to win. He shouldn't fail over and over. The storyline going forward should be Hunter trying to line up guys to get the title off Reigns and Reigns fends them off.

Cena returns and they play up him chasing the 16th world title at Mania against Roman. Roman goes over clean.

I think Sheamus and Barrett are better off as a team for now. Have Sheamus cash in some time after Mania and align with The Authority. Eventually I would put the title on Ambrose (maybe this is how Rollins returns and goes baby).

That way Reigns would still have a claim, and so would Rollins when he returns. But have all three as babyfaces. That eventually leads to a Triple Threat for the title.

Mr. Nerfect
11-17-2015, 06:41 PM
I could see the Sheamus cash-in at Survivor Series. I'm not entirely sure I want it to happen, but face Reigns is tragic at this point. Sheamus and Barrett beating down Reigns and Ambrose with Sheamus walking out with the belt is not ideal, but it's something.

Ermaximus
11-17-2015, 09:01 PM
Main Event:
Sting vs. Undertaker w/ HBK as Special Guest Ref and the loser retires on Raw.

Co-Main Event:
Fatal 4 Way Elimination Match
WWE Title
Roman Reigns (c) (Heel w/ The Authority) vs. Cena vs. The Rock (feud with Reigns) vs. Cesaro (As a heel and the Rumble winner.)

Wyatt Family (Erick Rowan, Luke Harper, and Braun Strowman) vs. Kane and the APA

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Bad News Barrett (c) vs. Stardust vs. Goldust

Ryback vs. Brock Lesnar

10 Diva Ladder Match
WWE Divas Championship
Paige (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Brie Bella vs. Sascha Banks vs. Natalya vs. Nikki Bella vs. Naomi vs. Asuka vs. Bayley

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe vs. Chris Jericho vs. Dean Ambrose

US Title Match
Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. Randy Orton

WWE Tag Team Title Match
Team Tag Team Turmoil Elimination Match
The New Day (Big E. and Xavier Woods) (c) vs. The Usos vs. The Ascension vs. The Dudley Boys vs. The Hardys. vs. The Prime Time Players vs. Sin Cara and Kalisto vs. Ryder and Rawley vs. Too Cool vs. Sheamus and Rusev

The CyNick
11-17-2015, 09:06 PM
Meh, I think hot shot booking is lame, but you're right it would mix things up. Just dont think the timing is right for Sheamus.

I really think they just want Sheamus to be champ when TMNT is out so he can go on talk shows with the belt (so May/June time). I see him losing it shortly thereafter.

If Reigns gets screwed at Survivor Series, you would think that would be his Mania opponent. I just dont see Sheamus vs Reigns as a Mania main event. I know some of you guys are not into Reigns, but he's been built up for the better part of a year, they should payoff that build. If he fails as a babyface world champion, so be it, you put it on someone else. But he deserves the chance to run with the ball.