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BigCrippyZ
12-13-2015, 02:44 AM
It's no secret that Daniel Bryan wants to wrestle again and is trying to get cleared by WWE's medical staff to return to the ring.

It's been brought up by others how strange the whole situation has been so far. I'm inclined to agree that it's definitely one of the stranger situations that's played out behind the scenes.

I wonder though if some of the issues and delay are a result of not only the medical issues but also from Bryan and WWE trying to figure out what their contractual legal options and obligations are?

Obviously, we're unfortunately not privy to this information, but if WWE's own doctor's won't clear him to perform as a professional wrestler, what are Bryan's and WWE's contractual options and obligations?

Is WWE required to continue to pay him for the remainder of his contract even if their own doctor's won't clear him and he refuses to perform in another capacity (i.e., a general entertainer, on air character, announcer, interviewer or even a trainer)?

Is Bryan contractually obligated to eventually perform in another capacity for the remainder of his contract if WWE's doctors won't clear him? At least so far, that would appear to not be the case.

What are Bryan's options if WWE's doctors can't or simply refuse to clear him to wrestle? Can he simply get out of his contract and walk away without any potential financial or legal losses or liability to WWE? While possible, that seems highly unlikely absent WWE agreeing in the future to simply let him leave.

Are WWE's doctors (or the company itself for that matter) contractually required to have a legitimate, reasonable medical justification and explanation to Bryan as to why he isn't and/or won't/can't ever be medically cleared in the future by WWE to wrestle?

In addition, is there an appeals or override process in place that would allow Bryan to wrestle for WWE again in the event that WWE or WWE's doctors refuse to clear a talent to wrestle? If Bryan can get so many certified neurologists to provide him clearance for example, will that override the decision of WWE or its doctors? If not, I could definitely see this becoming an issue that will and should be addressed in future WWE talent contracts.

That also raises another interesting issue that I believe Punk mentioned after he left WWE. What are WWE's doctors obligations to the company and the talent and is there a conflict of interest? Do WWE's doctors obligations to the company as employees outweigh or influence their obligations to the talent that they diagnose and treat?

You'd think that with a company the size of WWE and the money, etc., involved, most of these issues would be addressed in WWE policies and the contractual agreements between WWE and its talent. Unfortunately, I can tell you from first hand experience, no matter the type or size of the company, money or people involved, etc., that's not always the case.

All too often issues like those above get overlooked or deemed not likely, unimportant or inapplicable and go unaddressed even by the most experienced of companies and attorneys. Either that or there is a dispute as to the interpretation, intent of the parties or ambiguity of a particular contractual term and whether it addresses a particular issue.

I'd love to know the answers to some of these issues. That being said, I could see both sides currently trying to figure and work out these issues themselves, in addition to all the medical issues going on too.

Theo Dious
12-14-2015, 05:59 PM
Honestly I don't think it's that complicated. Bryan went out with injuries, came back, and went out again. His recovery wasn't smooth and concussions have been involved, and in the current sports climate concussions are a big thing. WWE also has lawsuits involving concussions against them largely predicated on the notion that WWE knowingly let guys work despite the fact that it might lead to life-long debilitating conditions. I think the bottom line for WWE is that if they let him go back and he either goes out again shortly after, or ends up having a lasting condition going forward, it'll look seriously bad for them and cost them a lot in bad publicity and possible lawsuit payouts. Bringing back Bryan with the risk that he could suffer additional concussions would be tantamount to handing ammo to the plaintiffs in those cases.

NormanSmiley
12-14-2015, 06:53 PM
Wwe cant risk db killing his sister and neice from the mania celebration.

In addition, how much longer are "fans" going to clamor at a db return? Isnt he close to forgotten?

Hanso Amore
12-14-2015, 10:28 PM
Blame punk for this

Disturbed316
12-15-2015, 01:20 AM
They don't want him back and face they fact they might have to push him again due to his ridiculous popularity.

Emperor Smeat
12-15-2015, 03:41 PM
Honestly I don't think it's that complicated. Bryan went out with injuries, came back, and went out again. His recovery wasn't smooth and concussions have been involved, and in the current sports climate concussions are a big thing. WWE also has lawsuits involving concussions against them largely predicated on the notion that WWE knowingly let guys work despite the fact that it might lead to life-long debilitating conditions. I think the bottom line for WWE is that if they let him go back and he either goes out again shortly after, or ends up having a lasting condition going forward, it'll look seriously bad for them and cost them a lot in bad publicity and possible lawsuit payouts. Bringing back Bryan with the risk that he could suffer additional concussions would be tantamount to handing ammo to the plaintiffs in those cases.

Only issue is that the WWE let Dreamer wrestle and his history with concussions is just as bad as it was with Bryan's. Had Dreamer gotten hurt, WWE would have looked just as bad as if they'd let Bryan wrestle especially if the news started to spread in the media.

Do agree that the concussion lawsuits and possible even the Concussion film coming out soon is playing a huge role in why they don't want Bryan back anytime soon in the ring.

The CyNick
12-18-2015, 10:03 AM
Here's one of these topics where the real answer is nobody knows.

Unless you are a medical professional and have access to Bryan's medical reports, you would have no ability to comment on the situation.

I think Theo had it right though. WWE should be applauded for taking extreme caution with a guy who was one of their top guys, could generate tons of revenue for the company, who they spent the better part of a year building up, and now never really recoup that money spent to build his brand. It's admirable they are looking out for the talent in this case.

WWE has come a long way in protecting their talent.

Simple Fan
12-18-2015, 10:21 AM
If he wants to wrestle let him wrestle. Its his body should be his choice.

The CyNick
12-18-2015, 02:24 PM
If he wants to wrestle let him wrestle. Its his body should be his choice.

On a personal level, I agree with this. But if I was in charge of WWE, I would be taking every measure to ensure he's 100% clear of any lingering signs of concussions. Especially with WWE where they allowed guys to hit each other full blast with chairs for a decade or so.

Nicky Fives
12-18-2015, 02:48 PM
If he wants to wrestle let him wrestle. Its his body should be his choice.

Have him sign a waiver to waive his rights for future lawsuit and let him go.

Simple Fan
12-18-2015, 05:15 PM
Have him sign a waiver to waive his rights for future lawsuit and let him go.

This should be done with every superstar. I also think that it should be in NFL and NHL contracts.

NormanSmiley
12-19-2015, 07:26 PM
Its confusing in the sense of nfl guys get concussed on sunday and are back playing the following sunday after going through the protocol. And that's a "real contact" sport. This dude can't pass q concussion test for a year?

Damian Rey
12-19-2015, 07:39 PM
It's not that he's not passing tests. It's that he can't get cleared by WWE doctors. Stark difference.

Football players also aren't doing house shows during the week then playing televised games Sunday. Entirely different.

NormanSmiley
12-19-2015, 08:10 PM
Thank you for clarifying that wrestling is a more concussion based product. Spot on.

DAMN iNATOR
12-20-2015, 12:54 PM
He was saying that football players don't compete 300+ days a year as wrestlers do. Therefore, it stands to reason that there's less chance of an NFL (or other professional football organization) player sustaining a concussion than there is of a professional wrestler suffering one.He's right in that there is a huge difference there.

NormanSmiley
12-23-2015, 11:13 PM
Dude you are spot on. Cheorgraphing fake punches to the head is so much more concussion based. That whole July-January 6 days a week of getting actually hit in the head is the carney show.

Damian Rey
12-24-2015, 01:40 AM
You're such a nincompoop. No wonder you jobbed out to Fan.

You'd be an idiot to think that football players are going balls out in fucking practice to the point that they're risking a concussion.

You're also the only idiot trying to compare football to wrestling, seeing as nobody brought it up until you wandered in here followed immediately by missing the point.

Stellar work.

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-24-2015, 02:02 AM
Thank Steven Richard kids.

Thanks Stevie!

NormanSmiley
12-24-2015, 02:29 AM
I hear they Play checkers and parcheesi everyday at practice. No contact ever. Triple h is so tough after all those chairshots he never got concussed. Please go on fanboy

GD
12-24-2015, 02:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/NYyKubq.jpg

#1-norm-fan
12-24-2015, 05:42 PM
Pretty sure Bryan was gonna lose the title at SummerSlam, too.

Mr. Nerfect
12-27-2015, 06:44 PM
Would love to see Daniel Bryan as a "coach" for guys like Cesaro and Ryback. Or doing color commentary.

Big Vic
12-28-2015, 10:08 AM
Yeah I loved Bryan on commentary.

Pardeep 619
12-28-2015, 06:45 PM
If you listen to JR's podcast from last month with Dave Meltzer as his guest, they talk about this issue for a few minutes. WWE has Dr Joseph Maroon as its specialist doctor and is highly regarded. If he isn't clearing Daniel Bryan then there is no way around it, just like with Mick Foley and Corey Graves.