BREAKING: Daniel Bryan announces retirement

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Due to medical reasons, effective immediately, I am announcing my retirement. Tonight on Raw, I'll have a chance to elaborate. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/gratitude?src=hash">#gratitude</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/status/696757295879819264">February 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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:(

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

:(

No...No....No.

WWE Doctors are dipshits. They should lose your medical license putting the company's wishes ahead of a patients.

[Big Vic]

Nice try slik :roll:

[Lock Jaw]

IT'S A SWERVE! A WORK! A HOAX!

(I hope)

(but prob legit)

[Big Vic]

he's retiring from Total Divas so he can focus on his in ring career :shifty:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I knew something was up when he got a hair cut.

[Lock Jaw]

He goes in the ring, says he is retiring.... but then KEVIN OWENS comes out (because he's a dick) and belittles him and then beats him up.

Daniel Bryan returns a few weeks later and says that he is now OUT OF RETIREMENT and will kick Kevin Owen's ass at Wrestlemania.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He should come out with a few ties for the Docs and Michael Cole. #Unfinishedbusiness

[XL]

He goes in the ring, says he is retiring.... but then KEVIN OWENS comes out (because he's a dick) and belittles him and then beats him up.

Daniel Bryan returns a few weeks later and says that he is now OUT OF RETIREMENT and will kick Kevin Owen's ass at Wrestlemania.

I had the exact same thought! Must be happening.

[road doggy dogg]

:(

No...No....No.

WWE Doctors are dipshits. They should lose your medical license putting the company's wishes ahead of a patients.

not sure I understand this post

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Daniel Bryan has been cleared by several doctors to compete. WWE doctors have been directed by Vince McMahon to not clear him even though he is probably healthy enough to return.

[drave]

STD is REALLY wanting to see DB wrestle again. Multiple doctors have cleared him, medically, except for WWE's doctors.


Therefore, there is a "conspiracy" that the E doesn't want to allow DB to wrestle for various reasons (stealing the spotlight from Reigns, etc.).

STD and many DB fans want to see him get in there and mix it up again, despite the possible life-threatening/altering injury that could occur if he takes a minor bump the wrong way. Granted, that can happen at any time, to anyone but is exacerbated by his recent injuries/concussions.

If there are legit health concerns, good for him for hanging it up and not turning into a gimpy old man who can barely remember what he did in his day thanks to the damage sustained to his cerebral cortex and flux capacitor housing.

[drave]

Daniel Bryan has been cleared by several doctors to compete. WWE doctors have been directed by Vince McMahon to not clear him even though he is probably healthy enough to return.


Conspiracy theory that cannot actually be proven.

Please submit your medical evidence showing that there is 0 risk with him getting in the ring again.

[Lock Jaw]

STD has inside sources that tell him the orders came straight from the top

[road doggy dogg]

I think the tinfoil hat needs to come off a bit. Now, more than ever, the WWE is desperate for recognized talent, if anything I would think they would try to push for a return more than anything to help fill out the roster

[road doggy dogg]

Like, that doesn't even really make a lot of sense... even from a "can't have him overshadowing Reigns" POV, are they just gonna not have any babyfaces?

[Lock Jaw]

No, because then people would cheer for Daniel Bryan more than Roman Reigns, and they need Roman Reigns to look strong. All other babyfaces must be supressed.

#C-O-N-SPIRACY!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

STD has inside sources that tell him the orders came straight from the top

:shifty:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2751151/wwe-rumors-vince-mcmahon-shuts-down-daniel-bryan-says-he-is-done-in-the-ring/

[KIRA]

"Daniel Bryan comes out and tell the audience it's ok. Although he won't be wrestling anymore his spirit lives on. In Roman Reigns"
wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry if this actually happened


Gonna miss watching DB if this thing is legit.

I don't think I've ever seen this many top guys out either god's still pissed about losing to Vince or trying to get him to push Ambrose harder.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If reports are to be believed, Bryan requested his release since his own independent doctors have cleared him and he wants to continue wrestling. WWE however don't want to release him and just like Rey Mysterio the wording of his contract is such that WWE are able to freeze the contract in the event that he gets hurt. Basically time isn't coming off the contract when he's on the shelf.

And WWE are supposedly never going to clear him. So they may be holding him hostage.

Hope it ends up being an elaborate work.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well bugger, that's a shame. May watch Raw to see if it is a work though if the rumors of him being cleared by multiple doctors thing is true and WWE have cleared him finally. If it's not, I wanna watch anyway as it'll be a sad moment.

[drave]

:shifty:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2751151/wwe-rumors-vince-mcmahon-shuts-down-daniel-bryan-says-he-is-done-in-the-ring/


This word is literally headlining that article.




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a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
"they were investigating rumors of a massacre"
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No wonder you are working at Lowe's and not doing journalistic stuff.
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Mauro Ronallo is in town for Raw. Daniel Bryan will give Michael Cole the Knee for Brie and end both of their careers.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This word is literally headlining that article.






No wonder you are working at Lowe's and not doing journalistic stuff.
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I noticed it but it seemed to make sense that it wasn't a rumor with the retirement announcement. I guess connecting the dots is too hard for you?

[road doggy dogg]

Speculative at best

[drave]

But it is a rumor, in YOUR accusation. He is retiring due to his health.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I mean, if DB wanted to get out of his contract, he should just be caught taking a drug cocktail one night. He'll be gone fast.

[drave]

Now if he goes off the rails and accuses WWE, specifically, Vince of holding him down, that'd be totally tits and shake things up a bit.


He would also most likely be sued into oblivion and actually become a hobo.

[road doggy dogg]

Could he not just show up on Raw and drop a bunch of F-bombs? That would be great. Would get him out of his contract pretty quickly.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Now if he goes off the rails and accuses WWE, specifically, Vince of holding him down, that'd be totally tits and shake things up a bit.


He would also most likely be sued into oblivion and actually become a hobo.

He should do that anyway. Like do the retirement speech and the just lower the mic and say "fuck it" and air his grievances. Have people question if it was a shoot or a work and keep him off TV for another 3 months until he just randomly appears attacking HHH outside a building.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think Daniel Bryan is the one with grounds to sue. Unfair practices of having a scientist (doctor) have result-based testing is unethical. A doctor answers to a patient first.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Could he not just show up on Raw and drop a bunch of F-bombs? That would be great. Would get him out of his contract pretty quickly.

"Hey, you know who's name starts with V and is a bit of a cunt? Well let's see how quick that cunt cuts my fucking mic."

[drave]

Look, Hasney and I just turned WWE programming around and made it MUST SEE!!!!


:P

[drave]

I think Daniel Bryan is the one with grounds to sue. Unfair practices of having a scientist (doctor) have result-based testing is unethical. A doctor answers to a patient first.


You are still sticking to the rumor being true though.


WWE, as a private entity, has the right to go by the word of their doctor rather than that of Dr. Nick down the street.

[road doggy dogg]

I think Daniel Bryan is the one with grounds to sue. Unfair practices of having a scientist (doctor) have result-based testing is unethical. A doctor answers to a patient first.

Do you have a detailed report of what the WWE's doctors' grounds for clearing him are?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Dave Meltzer reported that Daniel tried to give notice.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You are still sticking to the rumor being true though.


WWE, as a private entity, has the right to go by the word of their doctor rather than that of Dr. Nick down the street.

https://canwehaveapooldad.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/02-10d-drnick.gif

"The white part means there's no concussion!"

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That gif is so bad I didn't realize it was animated when I posted it.

[drave]

Stop motion GIF for the win!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Do you have a detailed report of what the WWE's doctors' grounds for clearing him are?

He created the IMPACT Testing method. So, go check that out at your leisure.

[drave]

Dave Meltzer reported that Daniel tried to give notice.


Meltzer Sheep,,,,,,,, :n:

[road doggy dogg]

He created the IMPACT Testing method. So, go check that out at your leisure.

Don't be a Cynick; this is your side of the argument, present the evidence to back up your claims

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

RIP Vicky Venom.

[Volare]

C'mon swerve, c'mon swerve!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Don't be a Cynick; this is your side of the argument, present the evidence to back up your claims

I have no evidence besides Daniel Bryan retiring, and the rumor that Vince is blocking clearing him to train to return to the ring.

IMPACT model is what they use to evaluate talent with concussions same as in the NFL. It was developed by Maroon himself.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Shit, even Miz is being sincere.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats on an incredible career. Glad I was able to be there for it. An honor to share the ring w/ u. <a href="https://t.co/gpBl40n53T">https://t.co/gpBl40n53T</a></p>&mdash; The Miz (@mikethemiz) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikethemiz/status/696774740636098560">February 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>ESPN have it running on their BottomLine. Shit...I think it might be real.</font> :(

[Black Widow]

http://rs1264.pbsrc.com/albums/jj487/Rita7070/Moving%20Objects/damn-damn-damn-james_o_GIFSoupcom.gif?w=480&h=480&fit=clip"

I hope it's not true but obviously is.

[Clerk]

Wow

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Watching WrestleMania 30. :(

[Rammsteinmad]

Tiny, tiny bit of hope in me that this is a work leading up to Wrestlemania.

But probably not. :(

[Innovator]

I really hope he comes out in a salmon jacket.

If not I hate reality and I hate you all.

[Lock Jaw]

A jacket made out of salmon

[Dark One]

Can only hope this is a Mark Henry style swerve.

[BigCrippyZ]

He's done. :(

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I hope he comes out in his Green jacket that Vince hated.

[The Destroyer]

The rumours according to Meltzer (sorry drave) are that this is Bryan's doing, not WWE's. If what he's saying is true, Bryan went for further independent testing using some kind of new technique for checking concussion damage to get some ammo for being cleared. The fact he's now suddenly announcing his retirement after getting the results suggests that what the new test ended up finding wasn't good.

So WWE may actually have been in the right all along for not clearing him.

[drave]

Don't apologize for being another Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,


just be,,,,,

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/1sGwTcr.png

[Lock Jaw]

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/t/547bd546e4b091337679031a/1417401684699/?format=500w http://static1.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/t/547bd58fe4b0a1e9ef8c5f61/1417401785942/?format=500w

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also been reading that the "Bryan asked for his release" story was traced back to a Dave Meltzer account on a message board and was never posted to his site. So bang goes that rumor most likely.

[The Destroyer]

Also been reading that the "Bryan asked for his release" story was traced back to a Dave Meltzer account on a message board and was never posted to his site. So bang goes that rumor most likely.
It was never posted to the site because it was a rephrased version of something Meltzer said on an audio show for the site, rather than a news post. He did state that Bryan asked for his release.

[BigCrippyZ]

Do you have a detailed report of what the WWE's doctors' grounds for clearing him are?

No one does, unfortunately.

In addition, I think there should be some appellate process for WWE talent. If talent can get say 3 or more doctors chosen by the talent who are specialists in whatever injury/field to clear them, or two specialist doctors to clear them, one chosen by the talent and an independent doctor chosen by WWE, then that should override the necessity for WWE's doctor to clear them.

The problem is, I'd imagine there's no established appeals process for this scenario written into the WWE's talent contract. I'd be shocked if this wasn't addressed by talent in future contracts though. If I was representing talent, I'd make it a major sticking point in the future by bringing up Bryan's situation to my client.

Obviously, it's still the talent's decision and with no major competition, WWE has ALL the bargaining power currently. You'd need a big draw like Cena wanting to make it standard in WWE talent contracts to make it happen in the near future.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If his doctors are telling him he needs to retire then he should. Great career and he accomplished way more somebody of his size probably should have. In his book William Regal said that his wrestling career was over once he signed with WWE and everything else was extra.

Even making it to WWE from where he started as a fired WWE developmental from Shawn Michael's wrestling school, from the Indys, ROH's marque champion for over a year is simply amazing. He proved he wasn't just a vanilla midget (fuck off Gertner.) He was more than a B+. He was Daniel Bryan.

[drave]

I doubt they will ever allow for a non-WWE doctor to medically clear an in-ring competitor. I am not a lawyer nor do I claim to be, but running a normal-than-higher risk of an in-ring death from action isn't something I see them taking a risk on ever.

Just seems if they deem it serious enough to disallow someone to get in the ring, there is most likely a good reason for it.

[Rammsteinmad]

Grasping at straws here, if Bryan was cleared by HIS doctors, but not WWE's, and so stayed true to his word and is retiring so that he can continue wrestling elsewhere, I couldn't imagine WWE giving him an opportunity of a "send-off"... more of a future endeavor news post.

So with that small glimmer of hope, maybe it will be a Mark Henry-style swerve.

But probably not.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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Couldn't decide which of these vids to post, so went with both....

[Rammsteinmad]

But I suppose him cutting his hair and shaving is coz he won't need it anymore. :(

[Rammsteinmad]

That "Monster" video imo is the best promo video ever.

[BigCrippyZ]

My issue isn't as much with WWE having the authority to not allow their talent to get in the ring, as much as it is that there's no appellate process AND no recourse or remedy for the talent if they disagree. They essentially are stuck for the remainder of their deal even if they want to perform AND get clearance from outside doctors/specialists to do so.

It's an overly broad contract that allows WWE to avoid their obligation to perform in good faith, in a scenario like Bryan's. WWE has no obligation to make good faith efforts to clear Bryan medically but Bryan still has a good faith obligation to WWE by NOT performing for another party. Bryan is the only one meeting his implied obligation to perform in good faith in this scenario it seems to me.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Grasping at straws here, if Bryan was cleared by HIS doctors, but not WWE's, and so stayed true to his word and is retiring so that he can continue wrestling elsewhere, I couldn't imagine WWE giving him an opportunity of a "send-off"... more of a future endeavor news post.

So with that small glimmer of hope, maybe it will be a Mark Henry-style swerve.

But probably not.

Meltzer mentioned the timing of this to be around Bryan receiving results of some tests he had independently of WWE just before the Rumble, so maybe they showed him something that made him feel he has to give up.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Well since this now sadly sounds like he really is hanging 'em up for good...will he be going into the Hall of Fame? If they put him in this year it might come across as a reactionary PR move but in a year or two? Why not?

Won titles at 3 WrestleManias (including the WM30 main event of course), but beyond all of that they've already acknowledged the work he's done outside of WWE and they seem more open to inducting people who didn't have lengthy careers in WWE itself. Add in that he managed to get the words "YES!" and "NO!" over to a ridiculous degree and helped pave the way for many of the wrestlers signed to NXT now I'd think he definitely merits inclusion.</font>

[BigCrippyZ]

Meltzer mentioned the timing of this to be around Bryan receiving results of some tests he had independently of WWE just before the Rumble, so maybe they showed him something that made him feel he has to give up.

Hmm... interesting. Wasn't aware of this.

[Rammsteinmad]

Or perhaps they cleared him as well? And that helped persuade WWE that he's ready.

[The Destroyer]

That "Monster" video imo is the best promo video ever.
It's up there. It's kind of got the unfortunate air of a tribute video about it in places though. :(

[Schlomey]

This sucks Sunny's ass.

[drave]

After watching the Monster video, it seems to me that the DB storyline was the last very well-written story line that kept the majority of people tuning in to see what happened next.

The dude was actually fired and came back and defined greatness, in and out of the ring. Dude is amazing.

[Big Vic]

He should come out with a few ties for the Docs and Michael Cole. #UnfinishedbusinessI do not understand this post.

[drave]

Even HHH - at the beginning of the promo said "Listen, some people just don't get there"..... but then he and Steph took it to the point where it took the "reality" out of it. (Yea, remember when HHH said this was the Reality Era? lulz).

If they want to really engage the people, make it seem more real both in and out of the ring.

[Theo Dious]

In an alternate universe the same people bitching about WWE nothe clearing him are bitching about WWE clearing him which clearly shOwsley they don't care about him.

In another alternate universe they're screaming for Vince's blood because he suffers brain damage concurrent with another concussion.

In another, same as above, but he's paralyzed.

Fuck you all.

Feelz for Bryan but this is probably best for him.

[Lock Jaw]

Daniel Bryan's build-up post Team Hell No (and really beginning after they lost the belts and he was trying to prove he wasn't the weak link) is probably one of my favourite build ups/rise to popularity for a rassler ever.

[Lock Jaw]

Actually, the whole Team Hell No thing and the build-up and creation of that was also pretty great too.

[road doggy dogg]

The rumours according to Meltzer (sorry drave) are that this is Bryan's doing, not WWE's. If what he's saying is true, Bryan went for further independent testing using some kind of new technique for checking concussion damage to get some ammo for being cleared. The fact he's now suddenly announcing his retirement after getting the results suggests that what the new test ended up finding wasn't good.

So WWE may actually have been in the right all along for not clearing him.

heh. Imagine if the further testing, as a result of WWE's doctors not clearing, is what ends up causing him to retire and potentially saving him years of his life?

So WWE's doctors being overly cautious may have been a boon to his health. Sheesh, let's revoke those guys' licences.

[Lock Jaw]

Actually, before that the whole Daniel Bryan/CM Punk and later Bryan/Punk/Kane feud was pretty great too.

[Lock Jaw]

Actually, I'll just say that ever since his loss to Sheamus in 15 seconds at Wrestlemania he was nothing but greatness.

[Wishbone]

Damn it... Well, at least he caught whatever was wrong before something seriously bad happened. DB broke down walls and cemented himself as a legend in a shorter period of time than pretty much anyone. The dude deserves every bit of the praise he gets and then some. A career cut short, but a career deserving of the hall of fame nonetheless. Will he be missed? YES! YES! YES!

[drave]

Actually, I'll just say that ever since his loss to Sheamus in 15 seconds at Wrestlemania he was nothing but greatness.


Quoted For Truth :y:

[Emperor Smeat]

:-\ Probably the only real option he had in regards to the rumored medical mess between him and the WWE. Maybe it lets him get rid of the rumored freeze on his contract so it can end within 2 years and then make another decision regarding his in-ring future.


He should do that anyway. Like do the retirement speech and the just lower the mic and say "fuck it" and air his grievances. Have people question if it was a shoot or a work and keep him off TV for another 3 months until he just randomly appears attacking HHH outside a building.

Should be called the YES Bomb if that happens.

[Lock Jaw]

Reposting video I made years ago:

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I do not understand this post.

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Choking out Justin Roberts with a tie got him fired in 2010 for a few months.

[road doggy dogg]

With DBry and Cena gone from the picture I wonder if the Bellas will stick around #stuff

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Nikki just had neck surgery. She's out too. Brie doesn't seem to really have the drive Nikki did to be a great diva's wrestler. She got married and is probably satisfied. Her LeBell Lock is piece of Josie shit.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bryan gets to spend the rest of his life not taking a physical beating and having sex with a Bella Twin. That's not a bad living.</font>

[Droford]

<font color=goldenrod>Bryan gets to spend the rest of his life not taking a physical beating and having sex with a Bella Twin. That's not a bad living.</font>

How long you think shes gonna stay married to him if hes completely done with WWE. Plus shes gonna have to quit eventually..

[road doggy dogg]

Are you inferring the only reason she married him is because of the money/status that comes with being a WWE superstar? Seems a really strange post/assumption to make

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No, in fact there were times where she was probably making more money than Daniel Bryan when he was an underneath guy. She signed a really good deal when the Twins came back and Total Divas. Just that wedding usually means end of career/getting on with your life.

[Bad News Gertner]

This is why the company needs to stop hiring these fragile vanilla midgets kids and start hiring some actuql wrestlers. He's also not a WWE Hall of Famer.

Bye. Mr. 4/10

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

She was put into big programs with Stephanie and couldn't even be bothered to learn the move her husband brought to fame. She also totally broke character and was smiling during a fight with her sister in her other feud.

Smiling/breaking character after attacking your sister after she said "I wish you died in the womb." That can't happen.

[Bad News Gertner]

Slicky hating women yet again.

[Bad News Gertner]

Good little opening match guy

[Wishbone]

This is why the company needs to stop hiring these fragile vanilla midgets kids and start hiring some actuql wrestlers. He's also not a WWE Hall of Famer.

Bye. Mr. 4/10

Vintage Gertner!

[road doggy dogg]

She was put into big programs with Stephanie and couldn't even be bothered to learn the move her husband brought to fame. She also totally broke character and was smiling during a fight with her sister in her other feud.

Smiling/breaking character after attacking your sister after she said "I wish you died in the womb." That can't happen.

I mean, in her defense, that feud was sofa king terrible that I'd probably want to pull a Chaz and GTFO of there too

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It was giving her matches on PPVs.

[Wishbone]

Gotta say I kinda agree with both of you. On the one hand she was given completely awful material and it's totally understandable that she wouldn't be invested in it, but on the other hand you still have to try at you job. I mean if you were working at McDonald's you probably wouldn't give two shits about the job either, but if you just sat there not even trying you'd get fired. Either way I don't think she's ever really cared about the business anyway. She's the kinda person who sees it as a gig and nothing more. I'd be willing to bet good money if she was given a better offer doing something else she'd take it.

[Corndad]

Bryan was the only wrestler to ever rival Kurt Angle in my mind and deep down that was the only Dream Match I had left.

Bryan is a good guy from all accounts and A top 3 Wrestler no doubt.

I remember being the only one who even cheered the night he challenged Sheamus for the US Title at Mania in Phoenix (Eventually got moved to the pre show but that's not here nor there) . To go from that point to being the unquestioned most over guy in the company a few Mania.
later was a miraculous story.

Something tells me though he's not done for good. Maybe in a WWE ring but I could see him going back to Indys. That is gonna be determined by how long Bella is still there. Couldn't seem him jeopardizing her spot going to the competition.

Can't wait to hear what he says tonight. Hopefully will be a shoot.

[poopfromweiner dude]

Don't understand this conspiracy

>>>Daniel Bryant makes WWF a shit ton of money in a relatively short time frame with expectations for a longer run as "that guy"

>>>Injures his fucking neck/brain to the point of serious concern

>>>WWF doctors won't clear him for return because:
-Only Ramon Reigns is allowed to be cheered?
-Vince McMahon just doesn't like vanilla midgets???
-Daniel Bryant might go to another wrestling promotion I have never heard of before??? (Has any WWF guy ever "jumped ship" before? Probably made all the fans start watching the other wrestling promotion, right?)
-He is still at risk of re-injury, and with brain injuries at the forefront of "media" and "lawsuits" these days, any negligence at all on WWE's part puts them at major risk $$$wise????

I just have a really hard time believing that "WWE" still operates in a way where Vince McMahon sits behind a desk and figures out how to "screw" everybody. He has to answer to "board members"/"stock holders"/whatever right...

[Gerard]

I seem to recall Bret Hart say something along the lines of "Daniel Bryan's career is over, he just doesn't know it yet" around a year or so ago. Seems he may have been right. :-\

[poopfromweiner dude]

And he's retiring because:

A.) He's "coming to terms" that it would not be smart to keep wrestling

B.) For the glory + some sort of "maneuver" where he can continue to work somewhere else and WWE can be clean of this situation (very likely because any dude who tries to make their living this way is probably not a super smart person in the first place)

C.) Whatever gdamned dumb reason yall will come up with

[Rammsteinmad]

It's kinda funny/ironic that tonights Raw will probably be the highest viewed in a long time.

[Jari]

Don't understand this conspiracy

>>>Daniel Bryant makes WWF a shit ton of money in a relatively short time frame with expectations for a longer run as "that guy"

>>>Injures his fucking neck/brain to the point of serious concern

>>>WWF doctors won't clear him for return because:
-Only Ramon Reigns is allowed to be cheered?
-Vince McMahon just doesn't like vanilla midgets???
-Daniel Bryant might go to another wrestling promotion I have never heard of before??? (Has any WWF guy ever "jumped ship" before? Probably made all the fans start watching the other wrestling promotion, right?)
-He is still at risk of re-injury, and with brain injuries at the forefront of "media" and "lawsuits" these days, any negligence at all on WWE's part puts them at major risk $$$wise????

I just have a really hard time believing that "WWE" still operates in a way where Vince McMahon sits behind a desk and figures out how to "screw" everybody. He has to answer to "board members"/"stock holders"/whatever right...

The theory that something doesn't fit surely comes from the reports that he has been cleared by two or three independent doctors on top of the CM Punk podcast which would suggest that the WWE doctors may be taking orders from upper management.

I personally suspect that they are being overly cautious because they don't want to take the risk that Daniel Bryan will be paralyzed on their TV show.

Part of me thinks this could be a work. It would not surprise me if, like everything in the WWE, the Authority get involved, Steph emasculates the face and HHH goes all bad guy, cerebral assassin heel to try and get some heat.

If though it's true that he went for more testing recently and something has come up that has scared him enough to legitimately call it quits then all the best to the guy and thanks for a lot of memories. One of the best all round talents I've seen in the business.

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[poopfromweiner dude]

I personally suspect that they are being overly cautious because they don't want to take the risk that Daniel Bryan will be paralyzed on their TV show.




??????????????????????????


YA FUCKEN THINK????????????????????????

[Shisen Kopf]

This while thing is a work. I bet he's just retiring the beard.

[poopfromweiner dude]

I could drag out the corpse of Martin "Farmer" Burns and convince the right independent doctor to medically clear him

[Big Vic]

Now I really wish we got Brock vs Bryan at WM31

[Jari]

??????????????????????????


YA FUCKEN THINK????????????????????????

What I was saying is that I don't think this some kind of company wide conspiracy to keep him off TV, thus making the feeling for Roman Reigns any more negative, as has been alluded to in this thread.

[poopfromweiner dude]

Any person alluding that most definitely eats their cereal with toenail clippings

[Jari]

PS fucking lol at anyone who thinks Brie Bella married Daniel Bryan for his 'influence' in the company. Yeah the guy who was the most over face in the company despite their best efforts to ignore his popularity and instead they tried to turn him into one of Bray Wyatt's lackeys.

[ClockShot]

Hmph.

Should be interesting to watch tonight. See where this goes.

Remember when Mark Henry retired on Twitter? That was good stuff when he had the announcement on Raw.

[Jari]

Hmph.

Should be interesting to watch tonight. See where this goes.

Remember when Mark Henry retired on Twitter? That was good stuff when he had the announcement on Raw.
I really, really, really want Bryan Danielson to carry on because it doesn't feel right that he's having to retire at 34 but I do think this is legit. If it ends with him giving John Cena the World's Strongest Slam though... :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Corkscrewed]

Wait, Mark Henry retired officially??

[Vastardikai]

So, how long until WWE pats themselves on the back on camera for 'caring about the well being of their Independent Contractors,' as a non-subtle jab at Punk.

And how long until Trips or Steph do a tasteless bit calling a "B+ Player" for heat, and getting 0 pushback on it from anyone, heel or face.

I say the very next segment for both.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wait, Mark Henry retired officially??

No, it was a gimmick and he turned face and heel on the same segment beating up John Cena. He has mentioned this will be his last WrestleMania in Houston.

[GD]

I am a bit upset that Daniel Bryan is retiring prematurely. He has been my favorite performer ever since the passing of Eddie Guerrero and that Canadian wrestler that we are not allowed to talk about.

[Icame4Hookers]

This kind of reminds me when HBK came out and lost his smile in 1997

http://s17.postimg.org/93cg5whn3/losthissmile.jpg

Bryan was trained by HBK. Both Bryan and HBK became champions....

HBK announced his retirement on RAW

Bryan will also announce his retirement on RAW

Conspiracy?

February 13th, 1997…the then reigning WWF champion “The Heartbreak Kid” Shawn Michaels is introduced to the ring by Vince McMahon. Shawn then drops a “bombshell” that he is seriously injured and may never wrestler again. He proceeds to hand over his title to then WWF President Gorilla Monsoon and says he lost his smile. He thanks the fans…hugs Vince…hugs Gorilla and walks out. The TV cameras show several of his female fans in the audience visibly shocked and shaken by his announcement. Jim Ross says that in the 25 years of being in the wrestling business…he never felt such a pain in his gut like tonight.

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PS: Notice the month February?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Damn, this sucks ass..guy really made the most of his second run in WWE though (the first being in the early 2000s)...

● World Heavyweight Champion
● Intercontinental Champion
● WWE Tag Team Champion
● United States Champion
●3× WWE World Heavyweight Champion
● SD! MitB Winner, 2011
● 26th WWE Triple Crown Champion
● 15th WWE Grand Slam Champion
● 12× Slammy Award Winner

If that's not a career worthy of one day being named a WWE Hall of Famer, I don't know WTF is.

#LeaveTheMemoriesAlone


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[drave]

No, it was a gimmick and he turned face and heel on the same segment beating up John Cena. He has mentioned this will be his last WrestleMania in Houston.

And another moment where he could have been made into something more. One of the better "recent" swerves.

[Corkscrewed]

No, it was a gimmick and he turned face and heel on the same segment beating up John Cena. He has mentioned this will be his last WrestleMania in Houston.

Got it. I had heard the second part but totally missed the first.

[The MAC]

As usual, Bret was right :

“Daniel Bryan is finished,” said Hart. “He’ll never wrestle again. I don’t think he knows it yet. I feel terrible about Daniel Bryan. For all intents and purposes, he had the exact same thing happen to him that happened to me after Bill Goldberg kicked me in the head [ending Hart’s career].

“One day, you learn it’s over. Doctors tell you that you can’t wrestle and you’ll never wrestle again. I lost millions of dollars because of that. I pray that it’s not the same for Daniel Bryan.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>From a purely selfish standpoint I'm fucking gutted thinking about all of the possible matches/programs that aren't going to come to fruition now. Bryan/Owens, Bryan/Styles, Bryan/Jericho in one of the few programs I'd still be interested in seeing Jericho doing, Bryan/Angle if and when Angle comes in for one last WWE match, Bryan/basically anybody at NXT.

But it's 100% the right call for him to hang 'em up and I'm glad he's doing it. Possible brain damage is nothing to screw around with at all. I thank Bryan for so many incredible matches and great moments. WM30 will always be one of my top wrestling memories ever.</font>

[Simple Fan]

Never was a fan of the guy, didnt even like him in ROH. Feel like WWE over pushed him way to much. Thought he was a solid IC title guy at best. Just never really understood all the hype about him. Hate to see anybody not be able to do what they love but its for the best. I wont miss the guy but I know alot of you will.

[Disturbed316]

This genuinely upsets me, but obviously his health is the most important thing.

He and Punk were the last two guys who held my interest in watching and once Punk left, that just left Bryan....with him gone I don't know whether I'll carry on watching. The product is pretty bad, with poor booking and bland characters. The wrong people are being put in spots they aren't ready for/deserve.

I only continued to watch on the off chance that Bryan would return but now, there's no one left for me to get behind. Cena is boring, Reigns is terrible, anyone who should be given a chance (Cesaro) aren't due to Vince's boner for bigger guys/Rock wannabe's. There's no one I feel I can connect to with or cheer for because anyone with an organic connection with the 'universe' get pulled back.

I think that's also what's made this worse is the fact I'm now contemplating giving up something I've watched for over 25 years. There's just nothing left for me to enjoy.

[Sting Fan]

Just been looking at a few videos and you have to wonder what the WWE missed out on by the fact he is now retired. I havent seen crowds behind a guy like that since the attitude era.

Sad that hes done, but if it extends his life well worth it.

[Icame4Hookers]

Just been looking at a few videos and you have to wonder what the WWE missed out on by the fact he is now retired. I havent seen crowds behind a guy like that since the attitude era.

Sad that hes done, but if it extends his life well worth it.

This is where the conspiracy lied, Bryan became too successful WWE got worried that no over talent would be able to get over as much.

So they had no choice but to let Daniel retire,.

[Evil Vito]

I think that's also what's made this worse is the fact I'm now contemplating giving up something I've watched for over 25 years. There's just nothing left for me to enjoy.

<font color=goldenrod>I've mostly been sticking with NXT and have watched Lucha Underground and finally jumped about the NJPW hype train and have been watching loads of great stuff on NJPW World. It was difficult to accept that WWE itself doesn't really interest me anymore and at first I was of the mindset that if I don't like the biggest wrestling company in the world, why should I bother with anything else?

But after finally biting the bullet and checking out other companies it helped remind me why I loved wrestling as a whole. The first season of LU had be pretty well captivated, and Wrestle Kingdom 10 was the best top-to-bottom show I'd watched in years, and that was me watching without knowing any of the storylines or most of the wrestlers going in.</font>

[Big Vic]

So D Brys father didn't get to watch his sons mania match? Or daniel meant that the one match in december was the last one he could watch live.

[CSL]

<font color=goldenrod>I've mostly been sticking with NXT and have watched Lucha Underground and finally jumped about the NJPW hype train and have been watching loads of great stuff on NJPW World. It was difficult to accept that WWE itself doesn't really interest me anymore and at first I was of the mindset that if I don't like the biggest wrestling company in the world, why should I bother with anything else?

But after finally biting the bullet and checking out other companies it helped remind me why I loved wrestling as a whole. The first season of LU had be pretty well captivated, and Wrestle Kingdom 10 was the best top-to-bottom show I'd watched in years, and that was me watching without knowing any of the storylines or most of the wrestlers going in.</font>

chiggidy Czech it, G1 is the best

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best/most fun 10 minute TV match ever

[Evil Vito]

chiggidy Czech it, G1 is the best

<font color=goldenrod>That was fucking great.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I wonder if Bryan's retirement will eventually lead to a change in how they go about their business in terms of booking television. Raw has multiple 15-20 minute matches a week and most of them are quite good (WWE's problem the last few years has never been lack of talent) but so many of them end up meaning absolutely nothing. You even have JBL on TV outright saying that wins and losses don't matter.

These guys are busting their asses for lengthy television matches that will be forgotten by Wednesday, and that's a shame.

Maybe they should try to find some happy medium between what they're doing now and how Raw was booked back in the Attitude Era. I know it's a 3 hour show but if they shorten the matches a bit you can get more guys on the show, maybe feature some guys that get lost in the shuffle, and most importantly make sure each match has an actual purpose on the show other than to just eat up time. And you save most of the really long, "epic" bouts for PPV.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

I think the whole "being on the road 5 days a week" is more to blame than an extra 5 minutes a week on Raw

[road doggy dogg]

assuming you mean that re: Bryan's medical issues being because he wrestled a lot of long matches on raw (not sure)

[drave]

What is lost on the majority of WWE viewers is that he was wrestling well before he even made it there and had already suffered many injuries, concussions included.

Until and if (lol) Daddy Vince wants to start paying for faster methods of travel (ie: planes, mustache rides) the necessity to travel as hard as they do will remain. They COULD pull back on touring, but I imagine that would have a HUGE impact (loltna) on the bottom line, reducing live event merch sales and gate dollars.

[Evil Vito]

I think the whole "being on the road 5 days a week" is more to blame than an extra 5 minutes a week on Raw

<font color=goldenrod>The WWE schedule is brutal and no doubt plays a part in guys getting banged up, but from what I've read house shows just tend to be a lot more relaxed. I don't think you see guys taking all that many crazy ass bumps when the cameras aren't on.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah but I mean, look at MLB players. The schedule is pretty demanding even for a decidedly leisurely sport. Imagine if they essentially had no offseason

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>No I get what you're saying, the schedule certainly doesn't help matters. But when I watch a lot of WWE matches now it just feels like there's an "arms race" of sorts to do bigger, often times increasingly risky moves in order to achieve a short-term gain.

A turning point, for me, was watching the Dolph Ziggler/Luke Harper match at TLC 2014. A match most people probably don't even remember happened. Yet, despite being the opening match on a throwaway show, it was full of absurdly dangerous and risky spots. I remember wincing and grimacing at each spot, but not in the way I would watching something like Ishii/Shibata where that's all part of my enjoyment, more just asking "Why?" when Luke Harper dives out of the ring, into a ladder, into Ziggler, trapping his arm in the ladder. Stupidly dangerous. In the first match. Of a show that would go on to have another ladder match.

The story of WWE in the past ten years is a story of diminishing returns - guys taking bigger and riskier bumps more frequently, increasingly dangerous and elaborate ladder-based high spots, all while the crowd sit on their hands, sigh, and say, "It was better in the Attitude Era, there was blood then". Even the people these spots were clearly designed to impress are unimpressed now. And it's not just the weapons and the "big" bumps and high spots - I don't want to sound like an old-timer saying how a DDT should still be the biggest finish on the show, but Dolph Ziggler hits an X-Factor from the top rope as a transition. Kevin Owens hits a Top Rope Fisherman Buster Thing practically every match, but has never once won a match with it. We don't need that.

We need to kill off this toxic mentality that "he sacrificed his body for the fans" - usually coupled with "the show must go on" - is a good thing. No, that's a horrible thing. "Mick Foley was great because he put his body through so much punishment in the name of entertainment". Well, guess what? Before he was even 50 years old Mick Foley struggled to pull his body weight on to a three-foot high bar stool, and we've all heard the stories of how he can't even tie his own shoelaces. Back in 1995, Foley cut one of the best promos of all time warning of this exact thing. If you go through wrestling sacrificing yourself, and putting your body at risk for the fan's entertainment, they'll only care for as long as you're doing it then move on to the next one. They don't care, so why bother?

People didn't love Mick Foley and people don't love Daniel Bryan because of the risks they were prepared to put themselves through - if they did, Blockbuster boy Nick Mondo would be the biggest star in wrestling. People love them because they connected to them, related to them, and saw something they liked.</font>

[Big Vic]

What was the match that actually "did him in"?

His SD! match with Sheamus?

[Innovator]

assuming you mean that re: Bryan's medical issues being because he wrestled a lot of long matches on raw (not sure)

I'd put more focus on his pre-WWE days. The guy would trade running headbutts with Nigel McGuinness, worked 15 minutes after a detached retina, worked for about 5 months with torn shoulder. Did a lot of damage before he even got to WWE.

[CSL]

^^^

[#BROKEN Hasney]

What was the match that actually "did him in"?

His SD! match with Sheamus?

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For serious though, it will just be a build up. Concussion science is still fairly new which is how Bryan was probably getting so many different answers from different doctors.

[The MAC]

HHH, Vince and the writers must be so happy.

The fans were disrupting their wonderful angles by chanting for this vanilla midget.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaysUmzWcAAZn2v.jpg

Jesus

[drave]

No no,


Daniel Bryan.

[Big Vic]

Wonder if that was before or after his speech.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I hope that was from before the speech. Because after he was done with his speech he seemed to be at peace with his decision, which was nice to see.</font>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Might have been after, he said in the YouTube video that he was crying with The Ryback backstage afterwards.

[drave]

Was there a video in your last post?

Couldn't see anything :(

[Lock Jaw]

I posted the video in the RAW thread where he mentions crying with The Ryback

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I posted the video in the RAW thread where he mentions crying with The Ryback

Yeah, thought it was IN THIS VERY THREAD so didn't repost, but for the lazy:
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One last mention of THE RYBACK

[road doggy dogg]

You accidentally logged in and replied to a post that wasn't made by owenbrown. Please be more careful in the future.

[road doggy dogg]

Well now I look like a fool because poster "unclebrown" deleted his posts. Egg on my face.

[WorkrateHeel]

I knew something was up when he got a hair cut.


i love how interested in men's hair you are. is it on your plenty of fish account where you said people notice your amazing hair 2nd after your laugh??

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The ESPN interview:

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[Evil Vito]

Having listened to that interview...thank fuck he's retiring. Things could have ended up very, very badly for him had the tests not discovered what they did.

I'll miss watching him so much but shit, permanent brain damage is not worth it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Having listened to that interview...thank fuck he's retiring. Things could have ended up very, very badly for him had the tests not discovered what they did.

I'll miss watching him so much but shit, permanent brain damage is not worth it.

Yeah, lesions on his brain and been hiding post-concussion seizures. No matter what the reasons were, thank fuck WWE didn't clear him.

[Theo Dious]

Yeah, lesions on his brain and been hiding post-concussion seizures. No matter what the reasons were, thank fuck WWE didn't clear him.

I can't beleive you're buying into the company line. Wake up sheeple. Jet fuel can't melt Daniel Bryan's beard. Jews. Monsao. Koch brothers.

[Rammsteinmad]

Man, such a humble human being. Watching that interview with Coach, him talking about doing charity work and remembering the bonding experiences you have with family etc. So many pricks in the world of pro wresting, fucking sucks this had to happen to one of the good guys. :(

[WorkrateHeel]

yea, could have traded 4 retired rybacks for one DB!

[The CyNick]

Kudos to WWE for standing their ground. Made the right call even though it cost them a boatload of cash.

[Evil Vito]

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[Emperor Smeat]

According to the recent Observer newsletter, the video going around the net of Bryan having a seizure during a Sheamus vs Bryan match might not have been a real seizure and just Bryan over-selling. His last known or documented seizure was around 4 years ago and the WWE was more concerned he got legit injured from the match. WWE was also worried 8 months later he was still showing serious injury signs from the match.

Also confirmed the WWE didn't force him to make a retirement decision but did approve of him taking more tests likely to get the results they needed to prove their side of the argument.

In non-Observer stuff, it was rumored for a long time the WWE wanted him to retire from active wrestling and had no desire to ever medically pass him due to political reasons (ex. interrupt their Mania plans again). The head doctor of the WWE does have some shady history from his NFL time where he would do whatever his team wanted regardless of players' health. Several known instances where he cleared players with legit concussions because the team needed those players for upcoming games.