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[Swiss Ultimate]

So...doesn't look like it impressed. 76% on Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghostbusters_2016/) right now with critics only. When I went to school that was a D+

When the fledgling (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/ghostbusters-film-review-909313) team of paranormal investigators in Paul Feig's Ghostbusters reboot post details of their first supernatural encounter online, one of the comments it elicits is: "Ain't no bitches gonna hunt no ghosts." It's a clever wink at the kneejerk hostility engendered among self-appointed guardians of the beloved '80s comedy franchise, long before the new movie was publicly screened. The unfunny mess that hits theaters Friday, like a big goopy splat of ectoplasm, will no doubt make those naysayers feel vindicated. But the fact is that an estrogen-infused makeover, particularly one with such a comedically gifted cast, was a promising idea. Sadly, that's where the inventiveness ended.

The high curiosity factor, the stars' popularity and moviegoers' deep affection for the property should generate decent opening numbers for Sony. But despite the teasing hint of a sequel in a post-end-credits coda mention of Zuul, the malevolent demon who possessed Sigourney Weaver in Ivan Reitman's 1984 original, the afterlife this time around looks evanescent.

The trajectory from the character-driven laughs and raucous physicality of Bridesmaids through the odd-couple antics of The Heat to the well-oiled action-comedy heroics of Spy in theory makes director Feig an ideal fit — particularly since all three of those films were elevated by their warmly knotty depiction of female friendship.

However, although the new Ghostbusters follows the template of the original by Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis, the witless script by Feig and his co-writer on The Heat, Katie Dippold, has no juice. Short on both humor and tension, the spook encounters are rote collisions with vaporous CG specters that escalate into an uninvolving supernatural cataclysm unleashed upon New York's Times Square. It's all busy-ness, noise and chaos, with zero thrills and very little sustainable comic buoyancy.

There's some knowing amusement in a rep from the Mayor's office (Saturday Night Live regular Cecily Strong) keeping a lid on public hysteria by using the ghostbusters' gender to discredit them as "incredibly sad, lonely women." But those expecting a clever feminist spin or any other sharp 21st century twists will be disappointed, and the upgrade to new-generation VFX yields nothing remarkable.

What's most surprising is the curious shortage of chemistry among the four leads, who never quite appear comfortable as a unit despite their overlapping screen histories. Kate McKinnon fares best of them, injecting consistent freshness into her off-kilter line readings and screwy reactions as eccentric engineer Jillian Holtzmann, who builds the team's anti-ghost gadgets — from familiar proton blasters to new improved gizmos. And Leslie Jones, despite being stuck playing a streetwise stereotype, has choice moments as Patty Tolan, a transit worker who brings her vast knowledge of New York and her funeral-director uncle's hearse to the job. (Yes, it gets ECTO-1 license plates.)

But there's a hole in the movie where its anchoring central friendship should be — between Melissa McCarthy's Abby Yates and Kristen Wiig's Erin Gilbert, a bond that dates back to high school and is gradually rekindled after an extended chill. While the actors worked together effectively in Bridesmaids, there's minimal evidence of a connection in their scenes here, which are often flat and sagging under the weight of dead air. Concept suffocates comedy at almost every step.

All the supernatural mayhem of the first movie — and to a lesser extent its 1989 sequel — was supported by the terrific rapport among four distinctly drawn main characters. Bill Murray's deadpan drollery, Aykroyd's earnest enthusiasm, Ramis' geeky awkwardness and Ernie Hudson's relaxed everyman vibe intersected in appealing ways that made it a hoot to watch how the team approached each fresh menace.

Those predecessors go unmentioned here, but one of the reboot's biggest problems is that its four leads seem more like female variations on the original models than fully formed characters in their own right. This is especially limiting for McCarthy and Wiig. McCarthy puts her signature, aggressively irreverent spin on impassioned science nerd Abby, and she scores a few laughs — this is not one of her abrasive misfires like Identity Thief or Tammy. But you feel the strain. Wiig's Erin is introduced as a stiff academic who has distanced herself from her early paranormal dabbling; naturally her starchy suit makes her the first to get slimed. Then zany Erin starts to peek through but somehow never gains much traction.

I was kind of neutral until the trailer came out and I didn't laugh once. I didn't have any desire to see this film or for it to bomb. Just kind of amazed at the desperate emotional defenses of the film and how so many people either wanted it to fail or to surpass the original.

There was never a chance that this one would be funnier than the original. Women aren't as funny as men as a rule and when a bunch of women try to be wacky it always comes off as forced. Oh well.

[Lock Jaw]

Been hearing/seeing a lot of good reviews actually....

A bunch of bad ones too, though....

[Swiss Ultimate]

Seen a lot of, "It's not bad" reviews.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Cooler Tom Schuler really wants this movie to be good. I hope he enjoys it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

76 is a C

[Swiss Ultimate]

That explains a lot about you. My school had that as a D.

[Swiss Ultimate]

77-84 C, 84-93 B

And D was 76 to like 68 or something.

[Mercenary]

That explains a lot about you. My school had that as a D.


Mine too

[Mercenary]

I'll let you all know my thoughts when I see it with my nephew next weekend. Not going in expecting it to be good

[Zeeboe]

I've proudly been against this reboot since it was announced two years ago. I am so happy the majority and I actually agree on something for once and that the movie is becoming the epic fail I hoped it would be.


What makes any motion picture work is if it's realistic. Even the ones that have a supernatural story. If something out of this world happens in a flick, I desire to see a story that presents an honest portrayal of how people would really react to it. For example, if ghosts were real and they became menace in society, a bunch of skirts would not be the ones dealing with the problem. That would be men.


You may have one or two butch lesbians assisting for quota purposes and to make CNN smile, and there might even be a few heterosexual babes doing research safely in an office, but as far as going into the mouth of hades and battling the spirits, it's going to be a lot of guys doing it.


Even broad's know this. They just like to pretend everything is equal and we booty-whipped males let them. Chicks are only tough in films and in BDSM sessions.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

76% is not a grade. Rotten tomatoes uses a binary system for that percentage. It means that 3 of every 4 critics would recommend seeing the movie.

The critical consensus is also favourable towards the film as well. It was never going to be the original.

There are more positive or favourable reviews then bad ones. Lots of 3, 3.5 and 4 out of 5 ratings. Seems it's likely a solidly above average movie that'll be fun to watch, if nothing else. Not sure anyone could've expected better. It's certainly receiving a better response than what I had anticipated.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I've proudly been against this reboot since it was announced two years ago. I am so happy the majority and I actually agree on something for once...

Might wanna go read what those who've seen it said before pretending they're agreeing with you, as it's not the case.

[Innovator]

Every positive review I've read defends the movie rather than actually reviews it.

[Zeeboe]

Did you not see that article a few months ago how the trailer for the film became the most thumbs downed video ever on YouTube?


I have no doubt a few butch lesbians and girly men will defend the movie, but overall, it is crashing and burning for a lot of folks and I highly doubt it will stand the test of time.


What's also sad is this flick could have worked if Hollywood didn't turn it into a political project to get people to vote for Clinton. (FYI: I am an undecided voter, but Clinton and her police-hating is not impressing me, so my current support is for Trump. Furthermore, I fear if Clinton wins, there's gonna be more PMS motion pictures cause the suits are gonna think Americans desire seeing females out of the kitchen. The powers that be need to realize at the end of the day, men are still the superior gender and we need that fact to be a reflection in our entertainment.)


Take "Terminator 3", the "Ghostbusters" reboot and the "Hunger Games" series and stick it in the oven! (Cause we all know if the world gets FUBAR'd, a freaking white girl is gonna be the lone survivor. GIVE ME A F'N BREAK! "The Book of Eli" - Now that's realistic! A blind man has a better chance at holding his own in the valley of darkness! No pun intended.)


#BrosBeforeHoes

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's crashing and burning how?

[mitch_h]

this is getting good reviews because a sinister cabal of SJW are bribing and outright threatening movie critics (who are useless anyway, because they didn't like Batman v Superman, X-Men Apocalypse and Warcraft)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Do respected reviewers count more in Rotten Tomatoes? Richard Roeper panned it.

[Zeeboe]

It's crashing and burning how?

It's getting negative reviews.



So, what's your story dude? Do you think by kissing up to women you're going to get to lick more pussy in the future?

[Destor]

Do respected reviewers count more in Rotten Tomatoes? Richard Roeper panned it.
They dont but they should

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's getting negative reviews.



So, what's your story dude? Do you think by kissing up to women you're going to get to lick more pussy in the future?

It is? 78% of critics would give It a recommendation. Of the 65 reviews submitted, only 14 have been negative. It's definitely getting some negative reviews. But crashing and burning doesn't apply. Not to mention it hasn't even come out yet and the real test will be its box office numbers.

I could care less if it's good or not. I have zero investment in the movie. I'm just speaking the facts.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

this is getting good reviews because a sinister cabal of SJW are bribing and outright threatening movie critics (who are useless anyway, because they didn't like Batman v Superman, X-Men Apocalypse and Warcraft)

So they're useless when they don't like movies you like? I didn't like BvS or X-Men. And I won't see Warcraft because I'm Not interested.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And again. Critics are from useless. Rotten tomatoes exists and is used as a marketing ploy because like it or not, critics matter and their voice is influential. If they weren't, movie studious wouldn't be slapping fresh stickers on their DVD/blu ray sleeves nor would they re edit trailers after a film release packed with critics reviews praising a film to generate box office returns. They clearly matter.

[Rammsteinmad]

Just shy of 4,000 ratings on IMDB has it at 3.6 at the moment. I want this film to flop. I defended it all the way until the trailer was released and I didn't laugh/smile/show interest once. It looked awful and it deserves to fail miserably.

Sadly, it will still be a financial success coz all the people who thumbs down'd it on YouTube are probably still gonna go and see it, resulting in it making a profit and therefore validating the release of sequels etc.

[mitch_h]

So they're useless when they don't like movies you like? I didn't like BvS or X-Men. And I won't see Warcraft because I'm Not interested.

I was just being a little jokester/ making fun of people here and other places on the Internet.

[Destor]

So they're useless when they don't like movies you like? I didn't like BvS or X-Men. And I won't see Warcraft because I'm Not interested.

Im not defending the hate but ive got to say anything rating this a 90+ was DEF paid to do so. Its not like it isnt common knowledge that critics are often paid by studios to do this.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

IGN gave it a 69 which by their shit standards is "Okay." I think I'd have gotten in trouble in school if I ever got that grade.

[Droford]

This flopping will just fuel the war on women storyline and they will double down with more remakes like White Girl Can't Jump..Gurlz in the Hood..Women in Black..A Few Good Women

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Im not defending the hate but ive got to say anything rating this a 90+ was DEF paid to do so. Its not like it isnt common knowledge that critics are often paid by studios to do this.

And why is that exactly? Is It unfathomable to think they actually liked the movie and enjoyed watching it?

[Frank Drebin]

Going to agree with Droford to a degree actually. While I'm sure there are some out there deliberately hating the film because its 4 women, I doubt the vitrol that has been spewed is predominantly because of that. The previews really made it obvious that they didn't try to do anything original with this, they just swapped SNL generations and added 21st century CGI and hoped for the best. They'l go through similar troupes (meeting a calm looking ghost in a library that turns out to be a mean one) and thats not going to do it.

I think the public has reached burnout on nostalgia profiteering to some extent and this movie is just bearing that cross.

The first film captured lightning in a bottle for too many reasons to list, and was never going to be duplicated. If Ghostbusters 2 couldn't hold onto enough elements that made 1 great, how could one thats been run through the process of studio bleaching 30 years later?

I'm sure the movie is ok. Nothing special. Just ok. A good way to kill a couple of hours.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I was just being a little jokester/ making fun of people here and other places on the Internet.

I have failed you.

[Destor]

And why is that exactly? Is It unfathomable to think they actually liked the movie and enjoyed watching it?

It is unfathomable to think a summer comedy would ever get near perfect marks yes

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's not getting neat perfect marks. It's getting passable "hey, it's not the original but it doesn't try to be and it's actually pretty entertaining if nothing spectacular" marks.

There are critics who didn't like it at all and others who didn't care much for it and didn't recommend it, as well as those who didn't care for it but would recommend it.

I still don't get why critics have to paid off to like something. They pan shit all the time. Melissa McCarthy has had several duds including her most recent film.

[Destor]

It's not getting neat perfect marks. It's getting passable "hey, it's not the original but it doesn't try to be and it's actually pretty entertaining if nothing spectacular" marks.

There are critics who didn't like it at all and others who didn't care much for it and didn't recommend it, as well as those who didn't care for it but would recommend it.

I still don't get why critics have to paid off to like something. They pan shit all the time. Melissa McCarthy has had several duds including her most recent film.

I literally said only the scores that are above 90% where clearly paid off.

[Mercenary]

I'm so sneaking in a can of ecto cooler when I go

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Still won't make it go any smoother but I will do the same.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I literally said only the scores that are above 90% where clearly paid off.

Clearly how? Evidence? Proof? Facts?

[Destor]

Clearly how? Evidence? Proof? Facts?
If you think a paint by numbers comedy is worth top marks then its clear why you arent a film critic

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So...you have no proof then? Just claims you're making because you don't buy that someone might just really like a movie you haven't seen but are deeming it as a paint by numbers result?

[Destor]

Not sure if trolling or contrarian either way have fun defending a summer comedy as a near masterpiece.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm not defending anything. Nor am I trolling. You're making claims critics are paid off and I'm asking if you actually any tangible evidence that anyone's been paid off to like this movie. You're also claiming its pain by the numbers without even bothering to watch it. And that's it's seemingly unfathomable somebody could go see it and thoroughly enjoy it and give it an arbitrary score you don't agree with.

[Fignuts]

Given the talent involved, there is no reason this couldn't have been a really good comedy, worthy of the franchise.

Feel like the people in charge wanted to "play it safe", make a by the numbers comedy without taking any risks, and just make money off the name. Too bad.

[Zeeboe]

It is? 78% of critics would give It a recommendation. Of the 65 reviews submitted, only 14 have been negative. It's definitely getting some negative reviews. But crashing and burning doesn't apply. Not to mention it hasn't even come out yet and the real test will be its box office numbers.

I could care less if it's good or not. I have zero investment in the movie. I'm just speaking the facts.

Here's another fact - It's 3.7 on IMDb and is the most disliked trailer ever on YouTube.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yes. A 3.7. From fans. Critic reviews there, shockingly, are saying the same thing on Rotten Tomatoes. But alas, it's not what you want to hear so I guess it need not count.

YouTube? Really? How many trailers on there get countless likes only to be absolutely shitty movies?

The real barometer is going to be box office. Money talks. The positive reviews the film is getting will likely help but moviegoer word of mouth will also play a big role in whether it's going to crash and burn or be a hit.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Trainwreck was the best Summer Comedy I can remember. Still was kinda derivative of love story motifs.

[hb2k]

The real barometer is going to be box office. Money talks. The positive reviews the film is getting will likely help but moviegoer word of mouth will also play a big role in whether it's going to crash and burn or be a hit.

Bingo.

I hated the trailer. And moreover, I hated my then-roommate trying to convince me that it was still worth looking forward to, and trying to make it a gender issue. It's not. Women have been headlining films since fuck knows when, at least the 30s, this is not a breakthrough of any kind. It's a shit film issue. They took a franchise people have fond memories of and they painted it with the same unfunny Hollywood trying-to-amuse brush that films like Bridesmaids strive for.

But if everybody pays to see it, regardless of whether the people that leave think it's good or bad, it's accomplished it's goal as a spectacle that people wanted to see for themselves. And that would be the biggest crime of all - that Hollywood figured out a way to rape and cheapen people's memories with a blatant cash-grab remake, throw lazy comedy in there, and still came out better off for it. It deserves to bomb. I don't hate the idea of an all-women cast in an action film. I hate the idea of anybody, male or female, filling shoes that are impossible to fill.

It's not as if the perfect cast and concept came along, and it was like "you know what these guys would make great? The Ghostbusters franchise!" They were looking at old franchises they could exploit for a quick buck, and they figured the only way to avoid a direct comparison was to use women. Fine on paper, Bill Murray himself years ago said that would be the only way it would have a chance to fly - female cast, different style of film, but some core principles intact to appease the people that want it to be true to the original.

But just watching that trailer, there's no heart in it whatsoever. I want it to fail to stop this lazy element of cinema that has found itself relying on superheroes and remakes. If it does record business, we all lose.

[Shisen Kopf]

Here's another fact - It's 3.7 on IMDb and is the most disliked trailer ever on YouTube.

What would you give that big loud black lady? I bet you'd give her 5/7 among other things.

[Zeeboe]

Yes. A 3.7. From fans. Critic reviews there, shockingly, are saying the same thing on Rotten Tomatoes. But alas, it's not what you want to hear so I guess it need not count.

YouTube? Really? How many trailers on there get countless likes only to be absolutely shitty movies?

The real barometer is going to be box office. Money talks. The positive reviews the film is getting will likely help but moviegoer word of mouth will also play a big role in whether it's going to crash and burn or be a hit.


I personally don't value the opinions of critics. I never have. (That's because I'm not a sheep.) The so-called "experts" are merely human beings (who put their pants on one leg at a time like me) screening a flick.


Besides, the photoplays they approve of, I typically find to be garbage. Reviewers are more then likely compensated by producers (and/or other influential figures) to praise their reels, and if they don't get enough cash from a certain company, they proceed to trash it.


The reason why I feel that way is because motion pictures have much more power over all citizens then some people realize. Films influence the world. Thus, they are essentially propaganda tools and they are all advertising something, so they require critical assessment and careful interrogation if we are to understand what they say about the concerns and values of those who favor them.


Some may argue that cinema should not be intensely viewed on a personal level and that they are just stories with little or no public bearing. Without any elaboration, popular opinion overall is that movie-viewing is a leisure activity that should be completed and forgotten until the next showing. This perspective is too casual and cavalier. Since studio executives and their clients do not exist in cultural vacuums, any motion picture should be seen as a commentary that is expressive of the society it's born in and as a form of expression for the audience who enjoys them.


In the case of "Ghostbusters" - More then likely this was created because the Clinton campaign is attempting to promote the notion that women in charge would be better for society and "the professional commentators" are naturally praising this long Democrat commercial.


Well, you know what the majority of the public is saying? We don't desire for females to be anything other then helpers like The Good Lord intended. Why do we feel that way? Besides for biblical reasons, women haven't prove themselves in society. If a chick's honor is insulted, instead of running to a man for protection, more broad's need to start handling things themselves.


They also need to kill more insects and not shriek and ask their boyfriend or husband to handle it. Madams should also check out that strange noise they hear in their living room and not look for a knight in shining armor to do it, and girls should offer to not only buy their own drinks, but insist (angrily if they have to) that they buy the guy's beverage too, and if another 9/11 happens and the ones with penises aren't there quick enough, skirts need to step up and help out, and do other things men have been doing for thousands of years, and they need to do a better job then us.


Then more folks might accept a picture about a team of nothing but dames fighting ghosts or other forms of evil.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The public isn't saying any of that. The movie hasn't come out for public viewing yet. The only people shitting on are those who voluntarily signed up for a movie site and decided to shit on it.

Money talks. We'll see what the public actually thinks when it's released this weekend.

[Frank Drebin]

I'm sure the reviews will be mostly the equivalent of 2.5 stars out of 4. Not good, not bad. I'm with DR2 in that I'm more interested in the box office totals. Word of mouth is a powerful thing even in these times.

[Droford]

If it was going to so huge business they wouldn't need to tie it in commercially from pizza to car insurance and overload on the commercials.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Every movie does that. It's not a reflection of how much business it's going to do. It's done to get the product out there to the masses in a variety of ways. Tie ins have been apart of the movie business for decades.

The Dark Knight had a Dominos pizza tie in andv that movie needed no help in the hype department. It's standard procedure.

[Zeeboe]

Do you have stock in this film?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm wondering if you can find any point of conversation I've shown any semblance of bias that would generate such a dumb question.

[Mercenary]

Every movie does that. It's not a reflection of how much business it's going to do. It's done to get the product out there to the masses in a variety of ways. Tie ins have been apart of the movie business for decades.

The Dark Knight had a Dominos pizza tie in andv that movie needed no help in the hype department. It's standard procedure.


Movies use tie ins nooooo. I never seen it happen ever! Say any chance Frozen cereal is still om the market?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I dunno but I saw Batman v Superman cereal boxes in the breakfast aisle today.

[Mercenary]

I dunno but I saw Batman v Superman cereal boxes in the breakfast aisle today.


I Know my case of ecto cooler came today, and I got to say it's over rated

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That's a bit of a bummer.

[Mercenary]

That's a bit of a bummer.

My tongue is now green! Can I sue?

[Zeeboe]

I'm wondering if you can find any point of conversation I've shown any semblance of bias that would generate such a dumb question.

The inquiry was my way of attempting to figure out why you not only instantly reply to posts insulting this film, but why you defend it with so much passion. Are you woman? A self-hating man? A liberal? What's your deal? Why do you care so much?


I'm your counterpart because frankly I'm sick of Caucasian men being verbally assaulted by the mainstream media. I'm not going to hate myself and garbage like this film is why I currently plan to vote for Mr. Trump, who months ago I couldn't even see myself dreaming of endorsing. I don't desire to live on any planet where a group gets insulted repeatedly, and that includes Anglo-Saxon males who apparently everyone else thinks deserves to be put down.



Are you aware that a motion picture honoring a baby-killer is coming out in October? This is the country we live in. For Pete's sake, police officers cannot even do their occupation anymore without being met with protests and gun fire. I know some will think I am looking too deeply into the subject, but as I typed before - Movies are a reflection of the society we live in and are propaganda devices that millions of malleable citizens view.


If we look to women to be our heroes, we're all going to be let down because most ladies in real life are cowards. They probably all love being a member of the weaker sex too, and that being scared and female is socially acceptable in the universe. If we attempt to change their rank, they will more likely resent it more then anyone because I doubt they desire to handle the adventures into hades that men have to go through during their lives.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So you can't specifically point out where I've defended the film then? Because I haven't. I don't know if it's good or not. The only thing I've been saying is it's been critically well received, and that it's not unfathomable that people actually liked the movie for what it is.

If that's your definition of defending then well, I guess that your take.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Just got back from this. It wasn't bad. If it was a sequel series not bad would pass. Reboot to me means you have to be better to justify it. They should just change their minds and say it wasn't a reboot and all of the guest characters were using aliases to hide from the truth.

[Swiss Ultimate]

76% is not a grade. Rotten tomatoes uses a binary system for that percentage. It means that 3 of every 4 critics would recommend seeing the movie.

The critical consensus is also favourable towards the film as well. It was never going to be the original.

There are more positive or favourable reviews then bad ones. Lots of 3, 3.5 and 4 out of 5 ratings. Seems it's likely a solidly above average movie that'll be fun to watch, if nothing else. Not sure anyone could've expected better. It's certainly receiving a better response than what I had anticipated.

It is a grade, actually. So, boo on you Damian. You're wrong.

If you want to go by the average rating, that's low too.

[Zeeboe]

So you can't specifically point out where I've defended the film then? Because I haven't. I don't know if it's good or not. The only thing I've been saying is it's been critically well received, and that it's not unfathomable that people actually liked the movie for what it is.

If that's your definition of defending then well, I guess that your take.

You're nit-picking. You wish to like the film, but you know it could be potentially terrible, so you don't desire to get labeled a fan of it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Just got back from this. It wasn't bad. If it was a sequel series not bad would pass. Reboot to me means you have to be better to justify it. They should just change their minds and say it wasn't a reboot and all of the guest characters were using aliases to hide from the truth.

So...not bad...one thumb up or no thumbs?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You're nit-picking. You wish to like the film, but you know it could be potentially terrible, so you don't desire to get labeled a fan of it.

I do? Can you quote anything in this thread that says I want t like the movie? I couldn't honestly care less if it's good or not.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It is a grade, actually. So, boo on you Damian. You're wrong.

If you want to go by the average rating, that's low too.

Per Google

"The Tomatometer is simply the percentage of professional critic reviews that award the movie a fresh score (greater than 6 out of 10) against the total number of reviews for the movie. A movie is rated fresh if it has a percentage above 60 and rotten otherwise."

I.e, binary system. How high a critic scores the movie is irrelevant per the the tomato meter. It's either or. But nice try.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

45% of viewers like it. That is usually way higher than the critics because of summer movie fun.

[Zeeboe]

I do? Can you quote anything in this thread that says I want t like the movie? I couldn't honestly care less if it's good or not.

It's been implied.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So, you can't quote it then?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Per Google

"The Tomatometer is simply the percentage of professional critic reviews that award the movie a fresh score (greater than 6 out of 10) against the total number of reviews for the movie. A movie is rated fresh if it has a percentage above 60 and rotten otherwise."

I.e, binary system. How high a critic scores the movie is irrelevant per the the tomato meter. It's either or. But nice try.

And you can call that a grade. Arguing that it isn't a grade is semantics and pointless. Don't be a semantic cunt-sniffer.

[Swiss Ultimate]

45% of viewers like it. That is usually way higher than the critics because of summer movie fun.

Sounds like a disaster. I wonder if they will make their money back.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Might wanna go read what those who've seen it said before pretending they're agreeing with you, as it's not the case.

Majority agrees with Zeebs

RT (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghostbusters_2016/)
AUDIENCE SCORE

46%
liked it
Average Rating: 2.7/5
User Ratings: 76,873

Metacritic seems down (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/ghostbusters-2016) on it too.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Sounds like a disaster. I wonder if they will make their money back.

They made 3.4 million alone just on the small amount of theaters opening early on Thursday. They have a chance but it the movie just got nixed showing in China.

Womp womp.

[Swiss Ultimate]

They made 3.4 million alone just on the small amount of theaters opening early on Thursday. They have a chance but it the movie just got nixed showing in China.

Womp womp.

China is nixing it? wtf

[Zeeboe]

So, you can't quote it then?

It's not possible to quote an attitude.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Uh huh.

[Droford]

China is nixing it? wtf

I think China has things against ghosts and crap like that in movies

[Droford]

Amusingly they tried to get it in China under the title "Super Power Dare to Die Team" which sounds like a better movie

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

China is nixing it? wtf

Think its because of the all female heroes cast.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Update: For the most part it is that China doesn't think the people will like it having not seen 1 or 2. Doesn't make much sense though. Watching those two movies only makes this one look like shit.

[Destor]

Meta critic is sitting at a very logical 60 right now. Which is exactly where a popcorn film should be. I.E. if this intrests you go see it other wise pass. Not like the 9/10 which would be to say "must see entertainment."

[Swiss Ultimate]

Meta critic is sitting at a very logical 60 right now. Which is exactly where a popcorn film should be. I.E. if this intrests you go see it other wise pass. Not like the 9/10 which would be to say "must see entertainment."

I might try to watch it on Netflix or Redbox. Gauge movies by trailers and sometimes by critic/audience reviews.

This movie looks and sounds dumb though. It's too bad though.

[The Rogerer]

It was shit

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'll probably be seeing it sometime tonight. Or the Infiltrator. Trying to decide.

[Black Widow]

The guy outside the theater dressed as Stay Puft was more entertaining.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It was shit

Ouch.

[Lock Jaw]

Just got back from it.... thought it was an enjoyable movie.... I'd call it "good"..... not gonna be a cult hit or anything, but not bad....

[Swiss Ultimate]

Just got back from it.... thought it was an enjoyable movie.... I'd call it "good"..... not gonna be a cult hit or anything, but not bad....

We should keep a tally.

[The Rogerer]

I sort of thought I enjoyed the first hour until I realised I wasn't laughing very much and then it was just a load of CGI and nothing very interesting.

Also they got Ozzy Osbourne in to do a SHARON joke

[Black Widow]

^Agree.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/11235053_1669840929951107_2910750176190571125_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=65e4cecd6e3eee7f9ba6fed93bcad898&oe=58342F19

Like i said this guy was more entertaining.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I sort of thought I enjoyed the first hour until I realised I wasn't laughing very much and then it was just a load of CGI and nothing very interesting.

Also they got Ozzy Osbourne in to do a SHARON joke

Aren't they divorced?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Nothing will get in the way of an old tired joke.

[Vastardikai]

Fuck the haters, I thought it was a fun time.

Then again, I don't worship at the altar of the first one. It didn't try to be the first movie, but it was clearly inspired by it.

That said, minus five points for no ghost fighting ape.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Were you on a date?

[Destor]

"When factoring in marketing costs — the price tag for promoting a summer tentpole globally can be upward of $150 million — Ghostbusters may have to earn $375 million to $400 million worldwide to break even for Sony and partner Village Roadshow Pictures. That means it needs to do sizable business overseas, since it could top out in the $130 million range domestically. (Sony insiders counter that the break-even number is $300 million.)" Pamela McClintock Hollywooder Reporter

[Destor]

Current gross is 42mil

[Swiss Ultimate]

Wow, I didn't expect THAT.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Failure?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Actually, yes. A lot of movies I don't think look good make a ton of cash. I disliked Bridesmaids for instance, I hated Avatar.

My tastes are not main-stream, so I kind of expected this to be AT LEAST a moderate success.

[Destor]

With no release in China 42mil openening weekend is VERY low. Bridesmaids and the like had longevity in the theaters after wprd of mouth spread. This will be very interesting to watch play out over the next 3 weeks

[Destor]

"Sony’s Ghostbusters took a tumble on its second weekend. The $144 million comedy earned $21.6m (-53%) to give it a new $86.8m ten-day cume. That’s a sharp fall for a comedy, and dreams of a 3.8-4x multiplier are now out the window. It’s about on par with Pixels and The Boss. So now it’s a question of which of those two precedents matches up. It’s still looking like a cume of $135m-$150m by the time it’s done." - Forbes

[Zeeboe]

Perhaps Hollywood will finally get the message: If they're going to bring back any classic franchise, they need to include the original actors in conjunction with new characters for us to get use to. It essentially should have been a hybrid of a sequel and a reboot.


"Ghostbusters" 2016 could have been epic if it involved the older men passing the torch to some younger people. (And I would have been fine with there being female members, if there could have been guys too.) If it went over well, there could have been sequels, a Saturday morning cartoon show, promotions from McDonalds, action figures, video games, the works. Not gonna happen now. The majority have spoken.

[Destor]

I think the problem is theyve made what has been advertised as a base generic comedy. Slap bits, farts joke etc. Its so low brow in the trailers it looks to have no substance.

[Swiss Ultimate]

They needed a brilliant script and a brilliant director, maybe not even one known for comedy, and THEN they needed incredibly talented actors/actresses to pull it off. None of these people approached the level of talent of the original actors.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Getting SNL talent cause the first one had 2 SNL and one SCTV star was a big mistake. SNL ain't shit now.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Even Zack Ryder didn't like it. Woo woo woo, you know it!

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They covered their production budget now.

$179,511,936

Budget: $144 million

[Destor]

They covered their production budget now.

$179,511,936

Budget: $144 millionStill need another 150mil to cover cost.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Are you sure? I thought it was 150% of production budget.

[Destor]

Over 300 mil is last i heard for total expenses

[Innovator]

Sounds like the sequels plans are already put to rest.

[Destor]

Sounds like the sequels plans are already put to rest.
DVDs dont sell like they used to (pirates) so they'll be looking to free tv to just break even. Could take a few years. Doubtful there will be sequals unless they have a dastically lower budget.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Paul Feig...like I don't wish death on people for being stupid dumb-dumbs, but if he died tomorrow I probably would have a good chuckle.

Something is wrong with my brain at the moment. Need to get my priorities straight.

[Swiss Ultimate]

So terrible. Glad it bombed.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Paul directed several episodes of the Office including the two-part Jim/Pam wedding and Michae's departure. He's now a gimmick.

[Lock Jaw]

What does that even mean

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's now the all-chick cast gimmick director now.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Std makes a valid point.

[Destor]

Watching now.

[Destor]

Opening shot. Pretty sure im watching night at the museum 3

[Destor]

Tywim Lannister up in this

[Destor]

By the book 1st act structure. Though lazy not a criticism.

[Destor]

McCarthy is not funny, entertaining or captivating. Not singling out this performance per se.

[Destor]

14 min in. A fart joke.

Brilliant...

[Destor]

Cast has no chemistry

[Destor]

16 min in a shit joke.

Low brow humor. Yay.

[Destor]

Despite being a reboot the character are being established with the pretense we know who their male counterparts are...that or theyre not being established at all. Probably both.

[Destor]

Random slapstick. Completely out of place. Film was written by a testing group being feed scenes out of context. Only explination.

[Destor]

This movie absolutely demands that youve seen the originals and makes no effort to create protagonists or the world they live in. It has an assumption of familiarity. It is presented as a sequel. Confusing choice.

[Destor]

McKinnon has charisma

[Destor]

I would watch her as lead/comic relief

[road doggy dogg]

As I mentioned in the other thread, Kate McKinnon is by far the best part of this movie.

[Destor]

Gilrs rule. Women are funny. Get over it.

[Destor]

The material is bad but McKinnon sells it.

[Destor]

Shameless shilling for ad dollars. Worse than superman and Marlborough

[Destor]

"Ya know an aquarium is just a submarine for fish."

I laughed

[Destor]

If you had never heard of ghostbusters this movie would be really bad. The only thing keeping the plot going is the originals.

[Destor]

Jones is incapable of doing anyting outside of her shtick

[Destor]

Shout out to wig. Playing the straight man is tough. She grounds the exposition. Structurally her character is the only that allows a plot to exist in this film.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did you find some Ecto Cooler before?

[Destor]

Maybe she will have a joke before the credits roll

[Destor]

Did you find some Ecto Cooler before?

Is that beer?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No, it's a children's beverage made in the 1980s and 1990s. Came back for this year. It's a HiC Juice cocktail of orange juice and tangerine juice.

[Destor]

Lol that sounds awful

[Destor]

This movie has taken place in like...48 hours. None of this makes sense of you stop and think about it, COULD REALLY USE A MONTAGE

[Seanny One Ball]

Std makes a valid point.


When a director casts primarily male leads then nobody bats an eye.
When a director casts primarily female actors then he's a gimmick.

Yeah good point.

[Destor]

The dragon ghosts cgi budget looks like its from the live action scoobie doo movies

[Destor]

When a director casts primarily male leads then nobody bats an eye.
When a director casts primarily female actors then he's a gimmick.

Yeah good point.

Girls rule. Women are funny. Get over it.

[Destor]

That ozzy cameo was topical 15 years ago

[Destor]

McKinnon with an egonesque pseudo science speech. Bout time someone pretended to be smart in this.

[Destor]

Its Mr.Trick from Buffy, still working for mayors i see.

[Seanny One Ball]

Girls rule. Women are funny. Get over it.

Are you taking the piss?
I was defending Paul Feig there. Melissa McCarthy is fantastic.

[Destor]

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/movies/ghostbusters-review-melissa-mccarthy-kristen-wiig.html?_r=0

[Destor]

Also: https://youtu.be/olysoaQYuh0

[Seanny One Ball]

Were you agreeing with me when you posted that quote?
It reads as admonishment.

[Destor]

Were you agreeing with me when you posted that quote?
It reads as admonishment.

Taking the piss haha

[Destor]

Film is much better at hitting the drama tones than it is as being a comedy

[Seanny One Ball]

Rascal

[Destor]

I do like the score. Playing with theme is obviously a must and they do it well. Nostalgia to the max when they do.

[Seanny One Ball]

Precisely why I didn't see the Footloose remake. No Loggins!

[Destor]

McCarthy's character has a gizmo that is probably a repurposed dildo

[Destor]

Precisely why I didn't see the Footloose remake. No Loggins!

No Lithgow no view!

[Seanny One Ball]

I just googled it and apparently they did use Loggins but the poor bastard didn't get a penny because he doesn't own the rights.

Ugh this would never happen to Randy Newman.

[Destor]

Exorcist bit. A monkey could have written this

[Destor]

Followed by slap gags

[Destor]

Its so mickey mouse its painful

[Destor]

Theyve taken a clever and original comedy and made a paint by numbers summer comedy with the same franchise elements

[Destor]

A turd by any other name would stink just as bad though. This movie is a bit of a mess.

[Seanny One Ball]

Paul Feig's next film will be another reboot, "Francine Got Fingered".

Sarah Silverman in consideration to play Francine.

[Destor]

Cameos are supposed to endear me but are just flat

[Destor]

Paul Feig's next film will be another reboot, "Francine Got Fingered".

Sarah Silverman in consideration to play Francine.

The porn parody writes itself

[Seanny One Ball]

The original Ghostbusters was high concept brah. It wasn't particularly clever but it was very original.

The only other comedy(not for little kids) I can name about ghosts is The Frighteners and that was just...
Well it wasn't good.

[Destor]

CGI team has to be the same team that did scoobie doo

[Destor]

The original Ghostbusters was high concept brah. It wasn't particularly clever but it was very original.

The only other comedy not for little kids I can name about ghosts is The Frighteners and that was just...
Well it wasn't good.

I have a soft spot for frighteners. My dad loved it and it reminds me of him.

[Destor]

Guilty pleasure movie

[Destor]

Scarface joke. Its so generic.

[Seanny One Ball]

It has Jake Busey so I give it some credit.
Hey it was better than LOTR and The Hobbit at least. God they bored me.

[Destor]

It has Jake Busey so I give it some credit.
Hey it was better than LOTR and The Hobbit at least. God they bored me.

The Hobbit was utter shit. THE WORST

[Destor]

I popped for slimer

[Seanny One Ball]

Scarface joke. Its so generic.


Yeesh that is both way too late for a reference and way too early for a reference what with the reboot not being anywhere near ready.

[Destor]

Antagonist has the ability to control all life. Freeze entire army with ease. Doesnt bother to freeze the ghostbusters.

[Seanny One Ball]

The Hobbit was utter shit. THE WORST

Peter Jackson just has horrible taste in stories so his films largely suck balls.
He is an incredible technician the way he directs though so I hope someday he actually makes a film out of a good story.

Braindead was great but it was about 20 years ago.

[Destor]

#badscifiisbad

[Destor]

Peter Jackson just has horrible taste in stories so his films largely suck balls.
He is an incredible technician the way he directs though so I hope someday he actually makes a film out of a good story.

Braindead was great but it was about 20 years ago.

His kong remake made me hate Kong almost retroactively

[Seanny One Ball]

I'd rather watch bad sci fi than any other genre. Horror second and action third.

That is close enough to the MST3K formula.

[Destor]

I'd rather watch bad sci fi than any other genre. Horror second and action third.

That is close enough to the MST3K formula.

Only if i have company that we can have fun with it.

[Destor]

Basically the same go home as avengers

[Seanny One Ball]

His kong remake made me hate Kong almost retroactively

It made me hate Naomi Watts for a long time. It would be a good film if it were 2/3rds the length and had a suitable female lead.
Naomi Watts is fucking shit at anything besides serious thrillers or dramas.

[Destor]

Final thoughts: i was bad. If you like bad movies youre going to love this. And i meam that.

[Seanny One Ball]

Only if i have company that we can have fun with it.


I only watch comedies or action films with friends. I tend never to watch a film for the first time around others. I am a solo viewer and I make no apologies for it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Basically the same go home as avengers

To be fair original Ghostbusters had that we love New York stuff before the Avengers.

[Destor]

To be fair original Ghostbusters had that we love New York stuff before the Avengers.

Lol i mean the return from the abyss. Not origiinal by any means but its a bit fresh to do after one of the most seen movies of all time

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

When a director casts primarily male leads then nobody bats an eye.
When a director casts primarily female actors then he's a gimmick.

Yeah good point.

That is not true. People do question films because of lack of female leads in them. That is categorically false.

He tried to make it a big deal women were starring in it. Trying to make an issue out of something that isn't an issue. Plenty of action movies have female leads.

The movie also seemed to be written by a 3rd grader also. CGI made by somebody who watched Haunted Mansion and went YUP!

[Destor]

If the movie had been more like the credit sequence id have liked it more. But its basically the McKinnon show

[Seanny One Ball]

To be fair original Ghostbusters had that we love New York stuff before the Avengers.


This reminded me of all the people that claim Prometheus tells them loads more about the origin story of Alien when the whole two hour film tells you pretty much the same thing as the beginning of Alien right down to the croissant shaped spaceship and the massive dead humanoids.
Black goop. That is the single thing Prometheus adds.

[Seanny One Ball]

That is not true. People do question films because of lack of female leads in them. That is categorically false.

He tried to make it a big deal women were starring in it. Trying to make an issue out of something that isn't an issue. Plenty of action movies have female leads.

The movie also seemed to be written by a 3rd grader also. CGI made by somebody who watched Haunted Mansion and went YUP!


People don't do that much anymore. The ultra feminists do but then who cares about a fanatical and frequently ignorant minority?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Hobbit was utter shit. THE WORST

The Hobbit as told by Bilbo Baggins...

"I feel... thin. Sort of stretched, like... butter scraped over too much bread."

[Destor]

Im a film snob. I admit this. I didnt hate the movie because they had female leads. It was just too basic.

[Seanny One Ball]

Also you shouldn't commit to a word like "categorically" until you can back it up and understand what it means.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This reminded me of all the people that claim Prometheus tells them loads more about the origin story of Alien when the whole two hour film tells you pretty much the same thing as the beginning of Alien right down to the croissant shaped spaceship and the massive dead humanoids.
Black goop. That is the single thing Prometheus adds.

The only black goop that matters to me is in the XFiles.

[Destor]

The Hobbit as told by Bilbo Baggins...

"I feel... thin. Sort of stretched, like... butter scraped over too much bread."

Its my favorite book of the series. To see it butchered like that wounded my childhood

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

His other female centric-movies are great like Bridesmaids. Wasted opportunity not having Melissa McCarthy play a Venkman-like character. She has worked with Bill Murry before.

No Venkman. No Stantz. No Ghostbusters.

[Seanny One Ball]

Im a film snob. I admit this. I didnt hate the movie because they had female leads. It was just too basic.


Pretty much the polar opposite of the movie "Basic" then.
What a confusing cockfest that was.

[Seanny One Ball]

This movie absolutely demands that youve seen the originals and makes no effort to create protagonists or the world they live in. It has an assumption of familiarity. It is presented as a sequel. Confusing choice.

No it doesn't. These are individuals in their own movie and there's nothing lost by not having seen the original.

McKinnon has charisma

No she doesn't. She's like a dreadful Jim Carrey rip off or like Jerry Lewis minus the timing, talent and writing.

I would watch her as lead/comic relief

Jesus man...

As I mentioned in the other thread, Kate McKinnon is by far the best part of this movie.


I don't think I could disagree more. I'm actually angry at how bad she is.
She's the single worst part of the movie and the least funny by a long shot.
Obvious and completely unnecessary low brow garbage is her sole contribution.

Low brow can be hilarious when the likes of Wiig or McCarthy do it because they are actually talented but what the fuck was the director thinking using this woman? She's fucking terrible.

The only woman in this that's nearly as funny as either of the two leads is the woman playing the Mayor's assistant. I'm not sure how she can be in such a small role in a film where two of the main four are completely unnecessary or horrible miscast.

[Seanny One Ball]

You know what? I wish Kate McKinnon was dead!

*harumph*

Now I feel better.

[Destor]

No it doesn't. These are individuals in their own movie and there's nothing lost by not having seen the original.
Disagree. There was zero developement for Mckinnon's character. You are expected to pop when is shown in the background as if this is a meaningful thing.


Same for essentially every one of the main 4. It's simply "Oh hey its binkman. Cool."

[Seanny One Ball]

There's a big difference between a film where the characters are under developed and one in which you have to have seen another film to understand who they are and what's going on.
I have seen the original and it gave me no noticeable additional information that I needed but didn't get from this new one.

[Destor]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/18881812_660703727468999_6568425486291473873_n.jpg?oh=6df8d7d40659def5175f2908e3817c9e&oe=59DC0B6A

[Kalyx triaD]

Teehee

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Disagree. There was zero developement for Mckinnon's character. You are expected to pop when is shown in the background as if this is a meaningful thing.


Same for essentially every one of the main 4. It's simply "Oh hey its binkman. Cool."

Yep you were expected to pop because she's Egon with Attitude You are expected to pop when Patti comes on because she's Winston with Attitude.

Not so much for the other two. Who was supposed to be Peter and who was supposed to be Ray?

It failed because it was a half measure in every possible way.

[Swiss Ultimate]

This movie grows on you...like cancer.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Can't believe anyone liked this movie.

[Destor]

they didnt

[Lock Jaw]

I thought it was alright

[Destor]

you're dead to me

[Frank Drebin]

It was pretty bad but you can't say that in public.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I don't know why this thread was brought back. The movie sucked but Ecto Cooler was fun being back until they shitcanned it.

The Real Ghostbusters cartoon is now Netflix Streaming and the 1984 movie is back there now.

Let this movie die as it already is dead. It's not coming back as a ghost to bust either.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It was pretty bad but you can't say that in public.

No, because the movie was like from two years ago and it's common knowledge that it sucked.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Everyone involved should be executed.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I watched an extended version that wasn't as bad as the original cut. They took too much out.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I watched an extended version that wasn't as bad as the original cut. They took too much out.

lol