Logan (2017)

[slik]

The final film where Hugh Jackman will play Wolverine.


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[Ruien]

Only 6 months away! Hell ya.

[Droford]

I thought this was going to be the remake if the only movie that actually needs a remake Logan's Run

[Lock Jaw]

Interesting that pretty much nothing is known about this movie and it comes out "so soon"......

Feel like the only news I have ever heard about it was that Hugh Jackman is in it and that it features an "Old Man" Logan.......

Haven't heard about anybody else being cast, any plot details, or the movie even shooting........

course, maybe I just haven't been paying attention......

[Blonde Moment]

They released a page of the script and for some reason I get the impression that this one could be a hard one to watch.

[Kalyx triaD]

We know Stewart is on board doing Prof X one last time as well. This is definitely the future of the post 'Days timeline. X23 is in. It's an adaptation of sorts of Old Man Logan, likely a loose one as per the X-Movies style. That's what we know. The villain was announced by I forget his name. Curiously X23, a young girl instead of a teenager here, was never officially revealed by character or actress. We only know it's actually Laura because it's common sense. Having Logan be a father figure can only really be done by introducing X23. It's also the one major Wolverine related character never to hit live action yet.

[Fignuts]

Mr Sinister is the villain.

[Fignuts]

Feel like Daken would make more sense as the villain, especially with Logan doing the Wolf and Cub thing with this kid who isn't actually his kid. Sinister has never really had anything to do with wolverine in the comics. His obsession is the summers bloodline.

[Simple Fan]

I feel like if they do replace Jackman after this film that the best thing to do would be to just recast Wolverine and put him in his cowl. No one will be interested in a female Wolverine I don't think. Atlest not as much as a male one that looks like the comics.

[Fignuts]

I dunno, it depends on the execution. X-23 is one of the most popular new characters in the last decade, so if they can translate what makes her so great to the screen, then it could definitely work.

Given x-men's track record tho, it's a big if. They are very hit or miss.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm still certain they're lining up Gambit to be the new leading guy. Unless Ms Lawrence wants to do another trilogy as the face of the series.

[Fignuts]

Ugh

Hate gambit

[Tom Guycott]

Feel like Daken would make more sense as the villain, especially with Logan doing the Wolf and Cub thing with this kid who isn't actually his kid. Sinister has never really had anything to do with wolverine in the comics. His obsession is the summers bloodline.

Can you imagine Wolverine's baby stroller of death?

[RP]

The villain will be Donald Pierce and The Reavers.

I've see pics of Jackman and i'm pretty sure he's not as old as he looks on set. I think they're doing Old Man Logan. And now that we know the villains and judging by the promo poster with the childs hand, i'm wondering if they are adapting the story from the latest Old Man Logan run, in issue 6 and issue 7. He goes to a mining town and protects a young girl who i think is suppose to be the love of his life in some sort of time warp shit. Anyhow, The Reavers and Lady Deathstrike. Its a real good story.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Old-Man-Logan-2016/Issue-6?id=53091&readType=1

[JimmyMess]

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this gave me chills. So excited.

[Rammsteinmad]

Different trailer than the one I saw on Facebook. One I saw had Logan shoving his claws right into someone's jaw, and having them protrude from the top of their head. Wasn't expecting that!

Mostly the same otherwise. Looks good.

[JimmyMess]

that sounds awesome! claws, jaw, head! didn't come across that!

[Rammsteinmad]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Here it is. Trailer is basically the same except for that one moment, which honestly caught me completely off-guard in terms of it's violence and brutality. Hopefully we'll get more of it though haha! :D

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Jesus, this is a helluva day for trailers. That looks fucking great.

[Lock Jaw]

UGH. MY EMOTIONS.

Saddest song in the world.... :'(

Looks good.

[Lock Jaw]

"Weird" that it is coming after a movie where Logan traveled back in the past to create a better/brighter future....... now it is like "ha ha joke's on you, the future sucks anyways"

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll take that future over the killer robot future.

[RP]

"Weird" that it is coming after a movie where Logan traveled back in the past to create a better/brighter future....... now it is like "ha ha joke's on you, the future sucks anyways"

Well, if you're not following the comics as far as Wolverine goes, I can get why you think this. Like i said earlier, this movie is getting adapted from the Old Man Logan perspective. I might have been wrong about the exact story i was thinking they were adapting, but read Old Man Logan on the site i linked. You'll get it.

[Lock Jaw]

I read the original Old Man Logan.........

[RP]

read the new ones.. i think its at 12 issues now.

[Innovator]

I read the original Old Man Logan.........

I wonder if they'll go the route of why Logan is hiding

[Heyman]

The final film where Hugh Jackman will play Wolverine.


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I can't wait to see this.

[Heyman]

I dunno, it depends on the execution. X-23 is one of the most popular new characters in the last decade, so if they can translate what makes her so great to the screen, then it could definitely work.

Given x-men's track record tho, it's a big if. They are very hit or miss.

I wouldn't be an advocate of X-23. X-Men already has enough 'feminine hero's' in Jean Grey, Mystique, Storm, etc. X-Men needs some more man-on-man penis-on-penis.

I know you (Fignuts) won't like this, but Gambit becoming a relevant character in future movies might be a shrewd move. You can still have Xavier and Magneto as your 'alpha's', but getting Gambit in there to replace Wolverine's stardom might not be a bad way to go. #ChanningTatum

[Heyman]

No one will be interested in a female Wolverine I don't think.

I can't speak on behalf of others, but I for one would NOT be interested in some gay female Wolverine. If you're taking out Wolverine, add in Gambit. Don't make Gambit the 'alpha' of the franchise as Wolverine has been, but just get Gambit in there to get a 'big name' some air-time. Gambit can be similar to Quicksilver in this regard.

[Heyman]

I'll take that future over the killer robot future.

Kalyx TriaD is correct.

[Sixx]

wolverine is easily the most recognizable x-men and i do not think anyone else could take his spot as the top guy or however you'd call it

but i'd like some x-men to be added to the franchise, like colossus for example

[Kalyx triaD]

X23 is a little girl here so unless she's gonna time travel back to the 90s and hyper age to the X23 we know she's not gonna headline the franchise.

It's still very likely gonna get passed to Gambit. Unless Mystique is gonna headline the next trilogy.

[Fignuts]

Calling X-23 a female wolverine is a gross oversimplication of the character. I'm not saying she could replace hugh jackman's wolverine, but she could be a great addition to the franchise in her own right.

Also, while the franchise has had a number of female x-men over the years, none of them are real "badasses". That's something x-23 can bring to the table.

Mystique should be badass, but instead they turned the character into a one dimensional hero, just because they didn't want J-law to be evil or something.

[Lock Jaw]

She is literally a female wolverine right now

[Sixx]

that she is, along with the suit and everyone calls her wolverine.

[Fignuts]

She took on the mantle of wolverine after he died. That's not what Heyman is talking about and you freaking mooks know it.

[Sixx]

i honestly didn't read heyman's post.

[Heyman]

Calling X-23 a female wolverine is a gross oversimplication of the character. I'm not saying she could replace hugh jackman's wolverine, but she could be a great addition to the franchise in her own right.

Also, while the franchise has had a number of female x-men over the years, none of them are real "badasses". That's something x-23 can bring to the table.

Mystique should be badass, but instead they turned the character into a one dimensional hero, just because they didn't want J-law to be evil or something.

You are right, but I'm just not sure 'mainstream' would see it this way. If there's too many 'female hero's' in one movie, I think it could turn people off.

You need your penises in there whether we like it or not. Storm, Jean Grey, Mystique, and Jubiliee (if they ever do anything with her), is more than enough. You also got that one chick (heel chick that supported Apocalypse in that last movie) who will likely play prominent roles in future movies.

Most casual fans like me don't know who X-23 is. Most non comic books nerds won't know who she is.

It's a far easier sell to just bring in Gambit to help fill the star power void of the departed Hugh Jackman.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't think we have a reference for a majority super heroine movie turning people off. Ghostbusters don't count.

Couple years ago they had an all X-Women book that was pretty cool. Before the social justice bullshit so it was a genuine setup.

[Rammsteinmad]

Damn, just occurred to me, this can't be Hugh Jackman's last Wolverine! I know he's getting old now, has played the character for 16 years over nine different movies, but dammit I wanna see a Wolverine/Deadpool movie. :(

[JimmyMess]

Or at least a cameo where he's like "Wade?" because he would have his "origins" memory even though this is a different Wade... but its not, but it is, but Days of future past redid everything, so things changed, but the deadpool and the wolverine would still know each other but they wouldn't?
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In all seriousness, I REALLY want Wolverine and Deadpool to interact at least once

[Rammsteinmad]

Exactly! ;)

[Kalyx triaD]

It's really not confusing at all.

Stryker's Team X never happened since Mystique likely screwed with his plans. Stryker did manage to get Logan into the Weapon X program against his will anyway (he volunteered pre-Days) and made him an animal.

The entirety of Deadpool could be explained as Wade's life post-Days. He never got put into Team X for his fighting ability, so he ended up a vigilante for higher in his own movie.

Days is the nexus point. Anything after that is the new timeline.

[JimmyMess]

It's really not confusing at all.

Stryker's Team X never happened since Mystique likely screwed with his plans. Stryker did manage to get Logan into the Weapon X program against his will anyway (he volunteered pre-Days) and made him an animal.

The entirety of Deadpool could be explained as Wade's life post-Days. He never got put into Team X for his fighting ability, so he ended up a vigilante for higher in his own movie.

Days is the nexus point. Anything after that is the new timeline.

you know I was being goofy right....

[Sixx]

It's really not confusing at all.

Stryker's Team X never happened since Mystique likely screwed with his plans. Stryker did manage to get Logan into the Weapon X program against his will anyway (he volunteered pre-Days) and made him an animal.

The entirety of Deadpool could be explained as Wade's life post-Days. He never got put into Team X for his fighting ability, so he ended up a vigilante for higher in his own movie.

Days is the nexus point. Anything after that is the new timeline.

HEROES FOR HIGHER

[Kalyx triaD]

you know I was being goofy right....

Really can't tell these days anymore. I've seen that exact kind of post on FB concerning the timelines.

[JimmyMess]

i guess not

[slik]

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[JimmyMess]

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[Blonde Moment]

The more I see the better I feel about seeing this

[XL]

Looks like a much more intimate movie, no global takeovers/wiping out of man/mutantkind. Looks really good.

[Lock Jaw]

Looks good......

Do not like Professor X dropping an F-bomb...... seems like it is "just because they can" now.......

[Destor]

Looks like the only thing theyre keeping from the source material is the dystopian future, the road trip aspect, and wolferine being "retired."

Which with thebcharacters they cant use is likely for the best

[Disturbed316]

Looking good.

[Dodger881]

Hugh Jackman is such a good Wolverine tbh

[Sixx]

Looks like the only thing theyre keeping from the source material is the dystopian future, the road trip aspect, and wolferine being "retired."

Which with thebcharacters they cant use is likely for the best

i'd love for hawkeye to be involved, he was great in the comics.

[Destor]

Xavier taking the hawkeye role seems odd

Also old man logan kills the retcon of hawkeye being deaf and make me laugh

[Sixx]

to be fair they forget he's deaf like every other issue.

but yeah, him being blind and not deaf here was very weird.

[Rammsteinmad]

Holy shit just got back from this! This is fucking amazing! This is the Wolverine movie we've been wanting for years! Seriously violent and profanity-laced. Aw man I loved it!

[RP]

I thought the first two Wolverines were horrible. I hope this is good.

[Rammsteinmad]

I enjoyed both previous Wolverine movies (I'm easily entertained, and I'm a sucker for anything Marvel-related)... but THIS is the Wolverine movie we've been waiting for! You won't be disappointed.

[Rammsteinmad]

Well, I don't know. You might be. Prick! :fu:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Really liked the Wolverine. Pretty excited for Logan. Reading nothing but great things

[RP]

I dunno, I think every Spider-Man movie that's been made has been horrible.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I only like Spiderman 2from the original trilogy. The other ones were meh.

[Ruien]

This shit is amazing. Holy fuck. So much awesome ness.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Gonna see it Sunday I think

[Destor]

Probably the best superhero movie

[Lock Jaw]

Just got back..... I also loved it..... very good.....

I guess my only "gripe" is that I wouldn't have had Professor X swear so much..... I get that you "can", but it doesn't mean that you "should".........

[Destor]

Just got back..... I also loved it..... very good.....

I guess my only "gripe" is that I wouldn't have had Professor X swear so much..... I get that you "can", but it doesn't mean that you "should".........

After working with people with dimentia through various stages it is completely authentic that he would swear. Even needlessly.

[Lock Jaw]

I guess....... not a very big "gripe", anyways...... still a great movie.....

[Sixx]

saw it, was great. not at all surprised i loved it. still have no idea what the fuck charles xavier was doing there but it worked somehow.

[slik]

Logan made me cry (almost twice even).

Violent, Emotional and Superb in every way. As with "The Dark Knight" this film transcends the label of a superhero movie. It's just flat-out great cinema. I suppose if you had to throw a genre label at it, it's a western.

[Heyman]

Sad to see Charles Xavier killed by X-24 (a.k.a. "Wolverine Clone"), but great movie nonetheless.

Great movie!

p.s._____________I also felt sad that X-24 pretty much ends up killing Logan, but thought the final interaction between Logan and his daughter (X-23) was really well done.

Nice to see that X-23 and the other young mutants will get to Canada and continue the Mutant race.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Thanks Heyman

[Destor]

Thanks Heyman

Its your fault for opening the thread tbh, but yeah. Trolls gonna troll

[Lock Jaw]

?

Heyman's post seemed "legit"...... nothing seemed "trollish".......

[Lock Jaw]

Anyways, I knew I was in for a good time when even before the movie started and they showed that Deadpool thing, and I got to hear the Superman theme blasted over movie sound system.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, ok. Destor has pointed out the "issue" being that Heyman gave away "spoilers" to the movie....... I just assume that people are smart enough to stay out of the official movie thread until they see the movie, I guess.........

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It is my fault but seeing as it just came out I'd assume spoiler tags would be used for a bit. Feel like that's been the case in other threads but oh well. Shouldn't effect my viewing experience regardless

[Ruien]

It won't.

[mitchables]

Even if I hadn't had this movie spoiled explicitly for me by people, everyone has been less than subtle in their reviews and it kind of spoiled the movie by proxy.

[Ruien]

How awesome that little girl must feel to be able to play little Wolverine. Is there plans for her to get her own movie? Hope so.

[Vastardikai]

Apart from the fact that I was disappointed that X-24 wasn't Daken (can't believe I just typed that), it was an excellent movie. 5/7 :shifty:

What had happened with the X-Men was kind of sad, once you piece it together. And it makes you wonder what would happen if the most dangerous mind in the world suffers a severe cognitive disease.

And the atmosphere was perfect. It felt like the end of the era that it was meant to represent.

[Wishbone]

Can't believe I'm saying this but Fox did an X-Men movie right. Best in the franchise by far. Loved the little girl playing X-23. She was perfect in the role. Xavier had me in tears in a couple of scenes too. 9/10 easy.

[McLegend]

I was really impressed with the girl. Thought she was great.

Also glad that they stayed away from the timeline change. That would have been annoying.

[Kalyx triaD]

Amazing.

[BigCrippyZ]

Saw it yesterday. Phenomenal way to end Xavier and Logan. Unless Jackman comes back to do something with Reynolds' Deadpool, I don't want to see either of them again in these roles.

Heard the next X-Men film is supposed to take place in the 90's.

[Wishbone]

That was the original plan but I've been hearing rumors that they're dropping the Apocalypse timeline at least temporarily and trying to rework things due to that movie being a relative failure. Word is that Deadpool may be a much bigger focus going forward and that main X-Men titles won't be happening for a while.

I'm crossing my fingers that the kids in this movie get a movie down the line. I think the world they've created where mutants are almost extinct and fighting for survival in a distopian future is a far more interesting way to tell stories.

[Lock Jaw]

I've heard of two X-Men films coming up....

New Mutants, which focuses on the "New Mutants" team/concept from the comic book. Not sure where in the timeline this is supposed to take place.

X:Men - Supernova - Which is rumoured to be another take on doing Dark Phoenix. Continues from Apocalypse.

Either way, the rumours say that Xavier/Magneto and that whole rivalry/feud/friendship will be pushed way into the background.

[McLegend]

Apocalypse wasn't bad and they shouldn't change everything. Whatever though that's a different thread.

When Logan says "So this is what it feels like." At the end I thought he was just referring to to dying. However he could have also been referring to Xavier's line about having a family. So basically that means that entire sequence is even deeper then I originally thought, and I thought it was pretty deep to begin with. That elevates the movie even more.

[Wishbone]

That line really did hit hard no matter how you interpret it. Honestly I thought he was talking about the "having a family" line the whole time, but what you brought up makes a ton of sense too.

On Lock Jaw's comment, I've heard rumors of those too so IDK honestly. New Mutants would lend to the rumors I mentioned as it's not really a main X-Men movie with X-Men in the title. Supernova is another story, but I haven't heard much about it. If it is another take on the Dark Phoenix saga I'll be a bit disappointed. I just don't care much for the young cast, especially Sophie Turner who I just find annoying. I'd really prefer not to see them in a movie again, especially one where Turner is the main focus.

[Lock Jaw]

I def took that line as "having a family"/"being at peace", even if for only just the briefest of moments before dying.....

Also, I may or may not have had to fight back tears in the movie theater.....

[Vastardikai]

I certainly had to deal with allergies all of a sudden.

[Kalyx triaD]

"Daddy..." was the most brutal thing in a movie where dudes get sliced up.

[Destor]

My father and i both got something stuck in our eyes at the same time. Weird coincidence

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Didn't make it this weekend. Likely seeing it Saturday or Sunday. Pretty excited. Everything said here is overwhelmingly positive

[Lock Jaw]

Everything everywhere seems positive..... haven't seen/heard any negative reviews......

[Ruien]

How can you when there is a 10 year old girl putting the blade I'm her foot in someone's neck to take them out.

[Lock Jaw]

A little girl killed a lot of people in Kick-Ass....... not the first time for little girl ultra violence.......

[Ruien]

Didn't see Kick Ass so I can't respond.

[Kalyx triaD]

Is the end of opening weekend not sufficient enough to start posting freely?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Idgaf honestly. I'm gonna see it anyways.

[Destor]

Is the end of opening weekend not sufficient enough to start posting freely?

Not in my opinion..im an opening weekend guy but not everyone drops everything to see a new movie. Parents more tham others... A week or two is fair.

[Lock Jaw]

I think what's fair is that people should be smart enough to stay out of the official thread after the movie comes out (no offense). I'd freely talk about everything if it wasn't the "general rule" not to...... so even though I would do things differently, I usually try to keep it "vague" or use spoiler tags in deference to the masses........

[Destor]

Also: 88mil domestic 247mil global for opening weekend. Already earned nearly 2.5x its budget.

Should see continued ticket sales witht the strong critical reaction and word of mouth past the 4 week marker so Logan is going to be a huge success.

[Destor]

I think what's fair is that people should be smart enough to stay out of the official thread after the movie comes out (no offense). I'd freely talk about everything if it wasn't the "general rule" not to...... so even though I would do things differently, I usually try to keep it "vague" or use spoiler tags in deference to the masses........

I agree with you on all counts.

Personally it takes 2 seconds to add tags so what does it hurt? Ya know?

[Kalyx triaD]

My question is: What is somebody expecting to read in a movie thread post-release? Like okay here I am some guy, I see _________ thread, it's been out a few days, and what...?

I'm to be reading news site type reviews where they have a professional obligation to be vague? This is a social forum. Why am I enacting a spoiler tag post release? It is a small thing, effortless, I get that. BUT: what is somebody doing hoppin in a movie thread post release? Why? I'm not saying they have to see it super instant, but I avoided the CW threads, some nearly seasons behind, because I'm not gonna find out what went down with Barry in a post. I respect that people could speak freely and it's on me if I hop in there.

But sure, you're the guy with the big buttons and it's your call. But it's a stupid call. The crux here is what possible interest does one have opening a thread while also not wanting to read spoilers. We'll have a whole page of spoiler tag posts over this.

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah fuck spoilers after the movie's released.

Even if it takes minimal effort to add a spoiler tag, it takes even less effort to not click on a thread.

[Destor]

My question is: What is somebody expecting to read in a movie thread post-release? Like okay here I am some guy, I see _________ thread, it's been out a few days, and what...?

I'm to be reading news site type reviews where they have a professional obligation to be vague? This is a social forum. Why am I enacting a spoiler tag post release? It is a small thing, effortless, I get that. BUT: what is somebody doing hoppin in a movie thread post release? Why? I'm not saying they have to see it super instant, but I avoided the CW threads, some nearly seasons behind, because I'm not gonna find out what went down with Barry in a post. I respect that people could speak freely and it's on me if I hop in there.

But sure, you're the guy with the big buttons and it's your call. But it's a stupid call. The crux here is what possible interest does one have opening a thread while also not wanting to read spoilers. We'll have a whole page of spoiler tag posts over this.
I domt disagree with argument, it just isnt that big of an inconvenience to be considerate

[Lock Jaw]

I could use those 2 seconds to get a near pinfall on somebody

[Destor]

I could use those 2 seconds to get a near pinfall on somebody
Winners win. 2.9 is for chumps

[Kalyx triaD]

I domt disagree with argument, it just isnt that big of an inconvenience to be considerate

Perhaps the guy who didn't see the movie ought to be considerate? Let's be real here most people will see the movie. So you got 7 guys using spoiler tags for the 3 guys who didn't see the movie, and then only 1 of them clicks the thread (for some reason).

It would be easier to establish; Post release the thread will have spoilers. This is actually one of the reasons I posted exact released dates when I was handling movie threads.

In fact lol, I did a long post about how handle exactly these situations that went mostly ignored. And here we are.

[Destor]

Or just chill and I'll keep doing what im doing..?

[Kalyx triaD]

Do I look Alaskan?

[Destor]

You must be a pacific islander CAUSE YOU SO SALTY

[Kalyx triaD]

Salt's all over the ocean, right.....?

[Simple Fan]

Just seen it. Honestly I liked all the action but everything else all most put me to sleep.

[Lock Jaw]

I've heard of two X-Men films coming up....

New Mutants, which focuses on the "New Mutants" team/concept from the comic book. Not sure where in the timeline this is supposed to take place.

X:Men - Supernova - Which is rumoured to be another take on doing Dark Phoenix. Continues from Apocalypse.

Either way, the rumours say that Xavier/Magneto and that whole rivalry/feud/friendship will be pushed way into the background.

They are also working on an "X-Force" film, and Deadpool was just confirmed to be a part of it......

[Destor]

I could really get into an xforce movie. More more Munn plz.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd think it would be classic Xforce.

[Destor]

It would def be marquee X-Force with no true to comic team. Just a best of.

[XL]

Just got back. Great stuff. Love the parallel to 'Shane'.

I went dark on the thread from release until tonight. It's not that hard.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Finally seeing this tomorrow. Can hardly wait

[Simple Fan]

Ok Destor has got me thinking about this movie again and I really didn't say what bothered me about it in my post viewing post.

First like I said once X-23 started talking I lost interest in her. Would have been great if she didn't say anything until she repeated the lines from Shane.

Also to be 2029 there wasn't a lot of futuristic cars other than Logan's limo and the non driving self driving cargo haulers, he buys a 13year old truck that looks brand new, and there is 50 year old Chevy Suburban and a Ford Bronco in excellent condition.

I didn't like the animantium poisoning either, especially after it was revealed that the corn syrup was suppressing the mutant gene. Logan drank enough whiskey that should have caused his powers to start to slip.

How did the comic book come to be true? Like no explanation of that at all. Who got the other kids there? What's in Canada for them? A lot of questions for a movie that's supposed to be an ending but I guess they could answer some in future X-23movies.

I loved the action though and the little girl was a bad ass up until she started talking. She just seemed more savage without speaking was more annoying afterwards. I think they over thought somethings and underthought others and it seemed like it was rushed being put together to me.

I think all the positive reviews about it got me expecting it to be great but it just wasn't for me. I'd rank it as the 3rd best X Men movie after Days of Future Past and Apocalypse. Not bad just not well thought out in my opinion.

[Kalyx triaD]

To be honest movies that depict the future as 'whatever not much changed' are quite realistic to me. Felt like that with Looper as well.

[Simple Fan]

It wasn't a big deal I just found the Chevy Suburban and Ford Broncos to be odd choices for the movie. Would have liked to seen the Ram beat up a little bit more than just needing new tires. He rolled up in it and I almost forgot we were in 2029 for a second, I was like damn he got a good deal but then remembered it was a 12 year old truck.

[Destor]

To be honest movies that depict the future as 'whatever not much changed' are quite realistic to me. Felt like that with Looper as well.

Forgot all about Looper...really dug that movie.

[Wishbone]

Ok Destor has got me thinking about this movie again and I really didn't say what bothered me about it in my post viewing post.

First like I said once X-23 started talking I lost interest in her. Would have been great if she didn't say anything until she repeated the lines from Shane.

Also to be 2029 there wasn't a lot of futuristic cars other than Logan's limo and the non driving self driving cargo haulers, he buys a 13year old truck that looks brand new, and there is 50 year old Chevy Suburban and a Ford Bronco in excellent condition.

I didn't like the animantium poisoning either, especially after it was revealed that the corn syrup was suppressing the mutant gene. Logan drank enough whiskey that should have caused his powers to start to slip.

How did the comic book come to be true? Like no explanation of that at all. Who got the other kids there? What's in Canada for them? A lot of questions for a movie that's supposed to be an ending but I guess they could answer some in future X-23movies.

I loved the action though and the little girl was a bad ass up until she started talking. She just seemed more savage without speaking was more annoying afterwards. I think they over thought somethings and underthought others and it seemed like it was rushed being put together to me.

I think all the positive reviews about it got me expecting it to be great but it just wasn't for me. I'd rank it as the 3rd best X Men movie after Days of Future Past and Apocalypse. Not bad just not well thought out in my opinion.

1) Personally I didn't mind her talking. She did fine with her acting and felt like a real little girl, especially when she was arguing with Logan over the comic book. To each their own though. This point is very subjective after all.

2) That's realistic. The real world doesn't change that much. I mean honestly 2029 is just a little over 20 years from now. Look at the differences between 1980 and 2000. You'd see differences but not enough that you'd think "the future" when seeing it. Cars were still cars, etc, etc. I find it hard to believe we'll advance very far in the next 20 years even in our world and we haven't been hit with multiple world threatening events and a mutant race war.

3) If they'd switched it to the corn syrup people would be laughing their asses off. That's a stupid explanation for Wolverine dying. What's more the adamantium poisoning is pulled strait from the comics, and it makes completely sense from a biological standpoint. If you coat someone's bones in any substance that doesn't breath their body can't perform basic functions like replenishing blood. The fact that Wolverine's healing factor was able to keep up with what the adamantium was likely doing to his system in the first place was pretty impressive in and of itself.

4) I'd say it's safe to say it's a group of mutants and mutant sympathizers that are waiting in Canada for them. There are quite a few noteworthy Canadian mutants in the X-Men comics and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were brought into this timeline's continuity as members of this group. It makes sense that Canada would be more supportive of mutants as well since in our own real world Canada tends to be extremely progressive compared to the United States. I'd also argue that it's that same group who likely built the little shack where the kids were staying. They've probably been using it as a rest stop for refugees for a while I'd imagine. As for the kids getting there, well, I'd imagine there were other nurses and doctors helping with the escape plan. I mean I can't imagine one woman pulling it off even if all she took was X-23. They probably orchestrated an escape and split the kids up. It's likely there were even more kids at the start that just didn't make it. I'll admit it would have been nice to know more on this particular subject, but it's not really an important piece to the plot.

Overall I think you're probably just the kind of person that gets annoyed around kids period (so a large portion of the population.) X-23 honestly wasn't any more annoying than any real kid I've ever met. In fact she was less annoying than many of them even when she was shouting. Again though that's all subjective. The girl definitely did extremely well at looking fierce, and her silent shtick did add to that in some way, but I don't personally feel like her talking really hurt it any either.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Plan didn't like it because a little midget was taking out men twice her size.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

how could anyone find Laura annoying? Even when she started speaking she was just an angry, traumatized child.

Plus he liked apocalypse better than Logan so... uh... I dunno, you do you dude.

[Heyman]

1)
2) That's realistic. The real world doesn't change that much. I mean honestly 2029 is just a little over 20 years from now.

Sounds to me like you've been taking one too many cocks to the face my friend.

#Mathematics101

[Destor]

haha

[Simple Fan]

I liked the little girl I just thought they made her two different people in the movie. She was a bad ass savage to start with which was awesome. Then she started talking and was a total different person. Why did she not talk at the beginning, it certainly wasn't because she was scared.

She wasn't even my least favorite character though, Professor X was. Thought he was pointless in the movie. Was thrilled when X-24 killed him, Logan should have done that after he killed the X Men really. What's the point of keeping him alive?

[Simple Fan]

Plan didn't like it because a little midget was taking out men twice her size.

Quite the opposite, that was the best part about her.

[Kalyx triaD]

As a formally mute kid and still extremely quiet throughout my childhood (~6yo) I believe Laura didn't talk because a) she still wasn't sure she could trust Logan, b) the less you talk the more you're listening and observing, and c) she simply didn't need to. When she finally spoke it was after they lost Charles and she literally dragged his ass to a clinic. While the scene was played almost for laughs and they had a fight, this was the point she felt comfortable enough with him to talk.

[Simple Fan]

how could anyone find Laura annoying? Even when she started speaking she was just an angry, traumatized child.

Plus he liked apocalypse better than Logan so... uh... I dunno, you do you dude.

I was more annoyed with her talking all together. It wasn't what she was saying just the fact that she was talking after being mute the whole movie for no reason.

As for Apocalypse I'd just re watched it before going and seeing Logan. I didn't think Apocalypse was all that good to begin with but it made more sense than Logan did for me.

[Simple Fan]

As a formally mute kid and still extremely quiet throughout my childhood (~6yo) I believe Laura didn't talk because a) she still wasn't sure she could trust Logan, b) the less you talk the more you're listening and observing, and c) she simply didn't need to. When she finally spoke it was after they lost Charles and she literally dragged his ass to a clinic. While the scene was played almost for laughs and they had a fight, this was the point she felt comfortable enough with him to talk.

I can get that it's when she felt comfortable with him but they lead you and Logan to think she was a mute. I was in the same mind as Logan and when she spoke I was kind of I angry at her like Logan was about it, only I wasn't as forgiving I guess.

[Ruien]

I never figured she was a mute because she never did sign language.

[Rammsteinmad]

You guys are overthinking this.

[JimmyMess]

You guys are overthinking this.

[Destor]

Why would you assume she was mute just because she didnt speak? lol wut

[Destor]

:lol:

[Simple Fan]

Why would you assume she was mute just because she didnt speak? lol wut

Well that is a sign. Logan even thought she was a mute until she talked.

[Destor]

Well that is a sign. Logan even thought she was a mute until she talked.
Well no, he thought she didnt speak english

[Simple Fan]

Maybe but she hadn't even spoke any Spanish either and I assumed Xavier was just speaking Spanish because she looked it. They also lead you to believe she wasn't a treated like a kid at all and was a lab experiment so I just assumed she never learned to talk but not only can she talk she's bilingual.

[Simple Fan]

You guys are overthinking this.

I know, I'm not one to usually do that but this movie just had a lot of things going on that left me thinking.

[XL]

Does she speak much English outside of quoting "Shane"?

[McLegend]

She needed to say "then I should be fine" and "Daddy"

Those cut deep

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I thought Patrick Stewart had one of his most amazing performances in this movie. Perfect direction for Stewart to follow.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I was more annoyed with her talking all together. It wasn't what she was saying just the fact that she was talking after being mute the whole movie for no reason.



The fact that it's hard for you to understand why she wouldn't speak and how you don't notice the seamless transition into her speaking is astonishing, but hey that's how you took it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I never figured she was a mute because she never did sign language.

I learned of the word mute because people asked my mother and older siblings so much when they met me. Sign language isn't a sure sign of people thinking you're mute. If you say nothing and respond with nods and such they'll think so.

[XL]

Surely using sign language is more a sign of being deaf? And deaf doesn't necessarily mean mute.

[Kalyx triaD]

Also true.

[Ruien]

It was a joke guys.....

[Wishbone]

Sounds to me like you've been taking one too many cocks to the face my friend.

#Mathematics101

In my defense that post was made at like 4 AM or something with literally zero sleep. The fact that I was able to make it even remotely coherent at all is a miracle... This post is also made under similar circumstances... The hell is wrong with me coming on this forum when I'm sleep deprived (or at all really?) I must be a freaking masochist or something... FFS :nono:

[XL]

Just picked up the blu ray, there's a second disc with a black and white version of the movie. Feels like it didn't need a separate disc.

[Lock Jaw]

How is the black and white version, though?

[Sixx]

It's no different, other than being black and white.

http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2016/11/BlackWhiteLogan.jpg

[XL]

Yeah, I don't think it's been cut any differently, it's just black and white which I thought would have been an easy thing to do in the options rather than producing a whole other disc.

[Lock Jaw]

I meant does it look cool..... does it make for a good "ambiance"

[Rammsteinmad]

"Noir Version".

Feel like "noir" is overrated these days.

[XL]

I meant does it look cool..... does it make for a good "ambiance"

Dunno, still in the cellophane.