View Full Version : Who do you want coming up after Mania...
Maluco
03-26-2017, 08:29 AM
Roode or Nakamura?
For me, I hope Nakamura wins and keeps the title and Roode comes up post-Mania.
I look at the rosters and I just feel like Roode is ready made to be a main eventer and age isn't on his side. His whole entrance and look is awesome now and I think he is legit.
At 39, I want to see him lose to Nakamura and make an impact post-Mania on either brand.
What do we all think?
Ruien
03-26-2017, 09:23 AM
Roode on SD. Especially since SD will probably have the talent purge sent to Raw.
I think I'd sooner see Roode get called up over Nakamura.
I can see someone on Raw/SDL talking about how Mania was a great night, a fantastic spectacle, etc when "GLORIOUS" hits. Roode comes out to the ring, agrees that it was great, it was fantastic, but it wasn't quite...GLORIOUS. But now it is.
Just trying to think of a face he could debut that against. Might have to be Bryan.
What Would Kevin Do?
03-26-2017, 10:57 AM
Roode needs to be brought up immediately. He is ready, and not getting any younger.
Shinsuke... I don't know. This probably sounds like a stupid idea, but I would leave him in NXT, but give him a "special" contract to appear on Raw and Smackdown, as negotiated by Paul Heyman. Like let Shinsuke be Shinsuke, but have Heyman hype him like he does Lesnar, and just let him appear on random shows, while still being in NXT. Arrive, Break Faces, YYeeeeeaaaaoooooohhhhhhh, Repeat.
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 11:23 AM
depending on how many they want to bring up , then they will need to either release some people or send them back down to NXT, too much deadweight at the moment on both brands
Then they may go and bring up The Drifter which is a really bad move. At the moment I only see two single guys that would be able to work straight off on the main roster and that's Roode and Nakamura.
I'd look forward to The Revival or DIY being brought up but after how they've been messed up American Alpha I'd be wary.
Ruien
03-26-2017, 11:30 AM
Who is dead weight on SD?
Volare
03-26-2017, 11:38 AM
Good question.
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 11:39 AM
The Ascension
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 11:41 AM
You could argue Carmella needs to go back to NXT to sharpen up on her ring work , she was called up way too early.
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 11:43 AM
Add The Vaudevillians and Curt Hawkins to that as well
You can't argue with the man.
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 11:51 AM
Was watching the original Ascension line-up the other day, really enjoyed their promo video and entrance when Bram was involved .
I always thought Swagger would have been a great guy to go to NXT win the belt in. A "shock" and stand atop the brand for a good while, but he's gone now. Aside from Ohno who's just come back, I can't see anybody ready for the NXT main event.
This is where holding back on an Apollo Crews would have paid off.
They could probably just about afford to bring up both DIY and The Revival without completely gutting the division. You could also send Vaudevillains/Ascension back down to temporarily plug the gap/get a refresh.
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 12:09 PM
Agree with those thoughts completely, maybe they wouldn't be too happy with paying a main roster wage for a guy on NXT or they would have to take a big pay cut.
Apollo Crews is another who should do some work back down in NXT, so he could work on getting a personality
Shisen Kopf
03-26-2017, 12:11 PM
Chad 2 Badd and Tex Ferguson should be called up
Volare
03-26-2017, 12:45 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/234/496/ecd.gif
THAT'S ASSES IN SEATS BABY!
Ruien
03-26-2017, 01:43 PM
The Ascension
Add The Vaudevillians and Curt Hawkins to that as well
You need jobbers. Maybe Vaudevillians are dead weight but the others have a purpose. Not that tag team dead weight should affect bringing in a singles competitor though.
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 02:12 PM
Chad 2 Badd and Tex Ferguson should be called up
And Chet Chetterson, can't forget him.
Simple Fan
03-26-2017, 02:18 PM
Roode to Smackdown is about all I want to see. I think Nakamura will hang around NXT a bit longer like Balor did. Don't think Ohno is ready or needed. Maybe Eric Young and sAnitY. Asuka seems like a good fit for Smackdown as well and I could see Ember Moon going to Raw considering they have some new female signings and possibly a tournament that is likely to get a few girls signed. Not really a whole lot that need a call up in my opinion after the massive call ups last year and Joe already this year.
Maluco
03-26-2017, 02:32 PM
You need jobbers. Maybe Vaudevillians are dead weight but the others have a purpose. Not that tag team dead weight should affect bringing in a singles competitor though.
Guys like Crews and Kalisto get no reaction, but have potential. They could easily be "rotated out" with a couple of NXT guys so they can work on themselves and maybe even get their confidence back.
They are dead weight in that they add very little to the show and look out of place on PPV.
Vaudevillains, Ascension, Fashion Police, Hawkins, Crews, Kalisto
Far too many job guys and guys who are going nowhere for a two hour show with a smaller roster.
Danny Electric
03-26-2017, 02:38 PM
Guys like Crews and Kalisto get no reaction, but have potential. They could easily be "rotated out" with a couple of NXT guys so they can work on themselves and maybe even get their confidence back.
They are dead weight in that they add very little to the show and look out of place on PPV.
Vaudevillains, Ascension, Fashion Police, Hawkins, Crews, Kalisto
Far too many job guys and guys who are going nowhere for a two hour show with a smaller roster.
I agree with this , especially now that they got rid of the extra show after and replaced it with 205 live.
Rammsteinmad
03-26-2017, 03:07 PM
The post-Mania Raw crowd singing along to Roode's theme will be fucking epic as fuck.
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 03:09 PM
The post-Mania Raw crowd singing along to Roode's theme will be GLORIOUS! :love:
FIXED.
Evil Vito
03-26-2017, 03:10 PM
The post-Mania Raw crowd singing along to Roode's theme will be fucking epic as fuck.
They would sing to Nakamura's theme too.
Evil Vito
03-26-2017, 03:11 PM
I'd like Roode to go to Raw and Nakamura to SmackDown. Let Roode bring the NXT Title with him, who cares? He can drop it after a few months on the main roster just like Owens did.
Destor
03-26-2017, 03:16 PM
I've been watching nxt from the beginging the past few months and i only watch the ppvs. The Ascension are job guys now? Thats a shame...they're tops.
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 03:18 PM
I also would be interested to see Asuka get called up to SDL, NXT Women's title and undefeated streak still in tact after NXT TakeOver: Orlando, push her immediately to challenge for the belt at the first SD! exclusive PPV post-WM 33, still not losing at all, she wins the belt and D.B., Shane or even Triple H can issue some sort of Ultimate Warrior-esque decree that no superstar on the main roster can hold both an NXT belt and a SDL/RAW brand championship and vice-versa and as such, Asuka must dercide whether to relinquish either the NXT Women's berlt or the SDL Women's title... she gives up the NXT Women's belt and then you sert up for her to defend the SDL Women's belt vs. whoever she defeated for it or possibly even Naomi.
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 03:20 PM
I've been watching nxt from the beginging the past few months and i only watch the ppvs. The Ascension are job guys now? Thats a shame...they're tops.
Their NXT gimmick, much like The Vaudevillians just doesn't translate well to the main roster. That and whoever writes for the tag division on SD is no bueno.
Destor
03-26-2017, 03:24 PM
...their "gimmick" is theyre an excellent tag team...
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 03:30 PM
...their "gimmick" is theyre an excellent tag team...
You need to lay off The CyNick's weed stash.
Destor
03-26-2017, 03:32 PM
Unless they adopted a gimmick post sept. 2014 they dont have one.
Rammsteinmad
03-26-2017, 03:37 PM
FIXED.
Seemed too obvious to me. :p
I also would be interested to see Asuka get called up to SDL, NXT Women's title and undefeated streak still in tact after NXT TakeOver: Orlando, push her immediately to challenge for the belt at the first SD! exclusive PPV post-WM 33, still not losing at all, she wins the belt and D.B., Shane or even Triple H can issue some sort of Ultimate Warrior-esque decree that no superstar on the main roster can hold both an NXT belt and a SDL/RAW brand championship and vice-versa and as such, Asuka must dercide whether to relinquish either the NXT Women's berlt or the SDL Women's title... she gives up the NXT Women's belt and then you sert up for her to defend the SDL Women's belt vs. whoever she defeated for it or possibly even Naomi.
Could even crown a new champ with the upcoming Women's tournament.
Ruien
03-26-2017, 04:39 PM
Unless they adopted a gimmick post sept. 2014 they dont have one.
Nope. They only had the "We are better than everyone" gimmick since their call up.
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 04:40 PM
Could even crown a new champ with the upcoming Women's tournament.
Had forgotten all about that.
Destor
03-26-2017, 04:58 PM
Nope. They only had the "We are better than everyone" gimmick since their call up.
:y:
Emperor Smeat
03-26-2017, 05:03 PM
Nakamura, Dillinger, and Revival to Smackdown while Roode and Asuka goes to RAW.
Whatever the number is for the next callup batch, Samckdown really should get the most of the them because of their small roster especially in the midcard and main event scene.
Asuka to SD get the women to sign a waiver in case they don't survive
Roode to RAW He's like Triple H if you take away all the stuff about Triple H you hate.
Nakamura I need him to face Miz plus SD would use him better.
Dolph Ziggler and Apollo Crews to NXT. Crews really needs some development
and maybe they can teach Dolph to slow the fuck down a little and he can gain relevance there.
Tye Dillinger???
DAMN iNATOR
03-26-2017, 07:42 PM
Roode's music, look and the robe all remind me of a younger Ric Flair.
Bad News Gertner
03-26-2017, 09:44 PM
Glacier
Evil Vito
03-26-2017, 10:14 PM
Maybe an out there idea but I wouldn't mind in the next draft if they just have EVERYBODY on NXT get drafted.
It doesn't mean everybody gets called immediately, just that everybody on NXT has a "home show" they could possibly show up on at any point. Conversely, shows could send people down to NXT for extended stints or for one-off programs as needed.
Prevents the problem of NXT potentially getting depleted and also gives a really easy kayfabe avenue for a guy like Apollo Crews to head back down to NXT for a bit during a time when there's nothing for him to do on the main roster.
Heisenberg
03-26-2017, 11:04 PM
Send that Drifter fella up to job out to Miz, have The Miz shit in his guitar and bash it over his head at SummerSlam while the announcers try to attempt the explanation of the shit-covered attack
A.J.K
03-27-2017, 12:03 AM
Maybe an out there idea but I wouldn't mind in the next draft if they just have EVERYBODY on NXT get drafted.
It doesn't mean everybody gets called immediately, just that everybody on NXT has a "home show" they could possibly show up on at any point. Conversely, shows could send people down to NXT for extended stints or for one-off programs as needed.
Prevents the problem of NXT potentially getting depleted and also gives a really easy kayfabe avenue for a guy like Apollo Crews to head back down to NXT for a bit during a time when there's nothing for him to do on the main roster.
basically doing a 3rd brand approach , I like this idea.
Rammsteinmad
03-27-2017, 06:47 AM
Fucking hell where is Apollo Crews anyway? I keep forgetting that guy exists.
erickman
03-27-2017, 07:07 AM
Fucking hell where is Apollo Crews anyway? I keep forgetting that guy exists.
guess the wwe did too
The CyNick
03-27-2017, 09:20 AM
You need to lay off The CyNick's weed stash.
I am drug tested, so I don't do illegal drugs.
The CyNick
03-27-2017, 09:22 AM
Maybe an out there idea but I wouldn't mind in the next draft if they just have EVERYBODY on NXT get drafted.
It doesn't mean everybody gets called immediately, just that everybody on NXT has a "home show" they could possibly show up on at any point. Conversely, shows could send people down to NXT for extended stints or for one-off programs as needed.
Prevents the problem of NXT potentially getting depleted and also gives a really easy kayfabe avenue for a guy like Apollo Crews to head back down to NXT for a bit during a time when there's nothing for him to do on the main roster.
That would be cool for a one off show, but then hurts the surprise factor of finding out where guys will end up when they do come up. Plus, it's not like you can expect creative to know where a newcomer to NXT will end up in terms of RAW vs SDL. Usually how it works is one of the brands has a spot to fill and they pick the NXT guy that makes the most sense to fill that spot.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2017, 09:25 AM
SDL shouldn't be the abbreviations for Smackdown. Sounds like it's a cholesterol test.
The CyNick
03-27-2017, 09:30 AM
One would assume Roode and/or Nak will be called up post Mania. The safe money would be Nak gets the nod first because he's been in NXT longer, and really, what is left for him to do there? Roode could at least stay around and put sometime over at the SummerSlam TakeOver and then get called up.
I would have to think Tye Dillinger will get a callup. And it's probably time for Asuka to make a major impact. Her impact might even be felt at Mania, by we'll see.
Also probably time for The Revival to go to the next level. Although I worry their style won't translate to the bigger audience.
Evil Vito
03-27-2017, 10:43 AM
I worry about The Revival too. They're excellent but they're most effective working long-form matches chock full of false finishes and dastardly double teams/brilliant heel work.
I'm just not sure regular TV will allow them the proper time to tell their story in the way that best highlights their talents.
Evil Vito
03-27-2017, 10:50 AM
That would be cool for a one off show, but then hurts the surprise factor of finding out where guys will end up when they do come up. Plus, it's not like you can expect creative to know where a newcomer to NXT will end up in terms of RAW vs SDL. Usually how it works is one of the brands has a spot to fill and they pick the NXT guy that makes the most sense to fill that spot.
To me there would still be a surprise factor because you don't actually know WHEN the person will come up. You know Asuka was drafted to SmackDown, but you want to tune in to not miss the week she finally shows up and starts killing things.
Right now I think fans are conditioned to expecting call ups at (or right after) one of the big 4 PPVs. It hasn't been too often in the past few years they've debuted people at other times, the one exception being last year's draft mid summer which was a unique circumstance. Would just be cool to "expect the unexpected" all year I guess.
The bigger bonus to me though would be the increased fluidity between the main shows and NXT. It'd be nice to be able to easily send people back down to NXT for a program or two rather than it just being once you called up you're there to stay even if creative has nothing for you.
The CyNick
03-27-2017, 01:24 PM
I worry about The Revival too. They're excellent but they're most effective working long-form matches chock full of false finishes and dastardly double teams/brilliant heel work.
I'm just not sure regular TV will allow them the proper time to tell their story in the way that best highlights their talents.
Yeah I think the WWE gets unfairly criticized when certain guys don't get over on RAW or SDL. The entire NXT tag division is an example of this. I think American Alpha are outstanding. The 70k people who will attend events this weekend, most would agree. But of the 8-10k that show up to events in Oklahoma City for a SDL taping in May, maybe only 500 of those find them entertainng. They haven't done much beyond, we're the guys who like to suplex people to get over with the mass audience. I feel like The Revival will suffer the same fate.
The CyNick
03-27-2017, 01:26 PM
To me there would still be a surprise factor because you don't actually know WHEN the person will come up. You know Asuka was drafted to SmackDown, but you want to tune in to not miss the week she finally shows up and starts killing things.
Right now I think fans are conditioned to expecting call ups at (or right after) one of the big 4 PPVs. It hasn't been too often in the past few years they've debuted people at other times, the one exception being last year's draft mid summer which was a unique circumstance. Would just be cool to "expect the unexpected" all year I guess.
The bigger bonus to me though would be the increased fluidity between the main shows and NXT. It'd be nice to be able to easily send people back down to NXT for a program or two rather than it just being once you called up you're there to stay even if creative has nothing for you.
I think they could just do that. Plan is to eventually move NXT to two hours, and tour slightly larger venues. So at some point they'll need more talent, so maybe they just treat them like a third brand.
DAMN iNATOR
03-27-2017, 01:42 PM
SDL shouldn't be the abbreviations for Smackdown. Sounds like it's a cholesterol test.
Current name of the show is SmackDown! LIVE. That's exactly what it should be.
Rammsteinmad
03-27-2017, 02:20 PM
Not so much about being called up from NXT, but I wanna see this guy get drafted to Smackdown and this to happen:
http://img10.deviantart.net/7e03/i/2016/187/4/3/cesaro_wwe_champion_custom_wallpaper_by_ambriegnsasylum16-da8vml2.jpg
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