Superstar Shakeup / SMACKDOWN Thread

[slik]

Daniel Bryan has revealed the James Ellsworth is staying on SDLive the A-Show!

[ClockShot]

But will he survive Spring Cleaning?

[RP]

I would hope Becky or Carmella at the very least, let James smell there sweaty underwear after intense matches.

[Droford]

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The face that runs the place

[slik]

Will prob miss the beg of the show, store crowded af

[slik]

Omg this woman is standing right behind me in line...if u can read this over my shoulder plz back the f*** up

[slik]

Her phone ringtone is 'Jesus take the wheel'...talking unbearably loud now

[ClockShot]

Well, first few minutes will set the tone of the show. Either bring out your big prize first and get the crowd in the mood, or a not-so-good star and piss everyone off.

[RP]

Kevin Owens/ Jericho/ Joe/ Sasha/ Charlotte/ The New Day

That's who's coming to smackdown per my sources

[Emperor Smeat]

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[ClockShot]

Hey, the return of Suit Owens.

[Droford]

KO DOWN

[GD]

It starts. Time to get #FireJBL trending again.

[GD]

Kevin Owens shaved :lol:

[ClockShot]

I miss Mauro.

Byron is just going to make this weird.

[Droford]

Jericho pretty much has to follow him

[RP]

Kevin Owens/ Jericho/ Joe/ Sasha/ Charlotte/ The New Day

That's who's coming to smackdown per my sources

1/1

[Emperor Smeat]

Makes sense Owens swapped now that Dean's on RAW.

[ClockShot]

Gotta change the lights during his entrance music from red to blue now.

[Droford]

So immediately I wonder

Will KO defend the belt on the RAW PPV vs Jericho if Jericho also shows up

[Evil Vito]

Glad they did the logical thing and moved KO over.

[ClockShot]

Here comes Boston's own Sasha Banks.

[Droford]

Nakamura time?

[Evil Vito]

Clean cut Owens is actually a pretty good look for him.

[ClockShot]

Just puttin' it out there.

[Droford]

LOL

wtf

[ClockShot]

Baron Corbin is America's fighter.

I feel real confident.

[Emperor Smeat]

Kind of funny WWE teases a possible stable of Joe, Owens, and Triple H going into Mania and then drops it as quickly as it started.

[Droford]

so shocking

[Emperor Smeat]

Was expecting Corbin to sprout out some Steiner-like match with the way he was playing up his chances.

:lol: at the feud that never ends moving to the Blue Brand.

[ClockShot]

OH NO!

[ClockShot]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

[Evil Vito]

Hahaha Zayn and Owens are destined to always be on the same show

[ClockShot]

Here comes Zayn vs. Owens #5,321

[GD]

Sami Zayn has arrived!

[ClockShot]

The face that runs the place to restore order.

[Poit]

I like having Owens on Smackdown.

I like having Zayn on Smackdown.

But I don't want Owens and Zayn on the same show.

[KIRA]

Oh good because I told myself I don't think Ive seen Owens and Sami face each other .

[Emperor Smeat]

Best thing to happen to Smackdown last night was keeping The Face That Runs The Place and his glorious hair.

http://i.imgur.com/adYpBld.gif

[Droford]

Owens and AJ should be good

[Evil Vito]

Zayn - AJ

KO - AJ

Corbin - KO

Corbin - Zayn



I'm interested!

[ClockShot]

Tag team sense is tingling.

[ClockShot]

Oh, nice curveball there.

[RP]

TAG MATCH PLAYA!

[GD]

This is one intense start to Smackdown.

[ClockShot]

Oooh, a "State of the Women's Division" address.

Anything from the rumor mill/dirt sheets about Naomi? She re-injure herself?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Sorry, everyone for the confusion, but this thread is NOT official. Please direct all further posts to the OFFICIAL thread for tonight's show.

Thank-You!

[ClockShot]

Sorry, everyone for the confusion, but this thread is NOT official. Please direct all further posts to the OFFICIAL thread for tonight's show.

Thank-You!

Ooooooooooooooh.

So, should they merge then? Or should this one be closed?

[KIRA]

Rowen is a rudderless ship now

[DAMN iNATOR]

I say we do away with this thread. #SHUTITDOWN

[Poit]

Slik made his thread first.

[Poit]

Why is Erick Rowan still on Smackdown? What is he doing?

What is Luke Harper doing?

[GD]

This is such a bad photoshop job

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/talent_champion_lg/public/all/2017/04/BrockTitle_Final--d71f20ba6cbc0c9f411f8bd0ad7d9f9c.png

[ClockShot]

BRAY'S BACK!

[Emperor Smeat]

Why is Erick Rowan still on Smackdown? What is he doing?

What is Luke Harper doing?

Rowan = http://i.imgur.com/BkStsHS.gif

Harper = Putting the finishing touches on the transformation to a new Harperlina look. Already got a new shirt and doesn't look like he just woke up in the morning or as a hobo.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Slik made his thread first.

That's just what he wants you to think.

[KIRA]

Ah nice to see the Shepard still tending his flock

Would be nice if Wyatt menaced both brands since y'know Taker is gone


Rowan finally stopped failing!

[Evil Vito]

Rowan's beard has gotten even more ridiculous

[owenbrown]

fuck outta here with that DQ finish

[slik]

Just tuning in, KO and Sami to SD? Anyone else so far?

[owenbrown]

fuck outta here with these anti smoking commercials

[Evil Vito]

Not yet

[ClockShot]

R-Truth should be doing these WWE anti-smoking ads.

[DAMN iNATOR]

fuck outta here with that DQ finish

It progressed the storyline, I don't see where your gripe is.

[ClockShot]

Surprise tag team, please?

[slik]

So this is half the tag division, right?

[DAMN iNATOR]

R-Truth should be doing these WWE anti-smoking ads.

If they ever want kids to stop listening to music just play him as K-Kwik and Road Dogg trying to rap to "Get Rowdy".

[ClockShot]

Alpha, Thug Usos, Fashion Police, Ascension. Vaudevillians finished, Hype Bros. on hiatus.

Missing anyone else?

[mike adamle]

fuck outta here with these anti smoking commercials

Does Rebecca know you talk like that?

[slik]

Where my DIY at

[Emperor Smeat]

This tag match right now is literally half of Smackdown's tag division.

[KIRA]

Feels like these are SDL's last two teams

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at whichever Uso it was that Gable suplexed since it looked like he landed right on his head.

[ClockShot]

Good tag match.

[owenbrown]

goddammit

[ClockShot]

Ouch at whichever Uso it was that Gable suplexed since it looked like he landed right on his head.

Was gonna say the same thing.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Zayn - AJ

KO - AJ

Corbin - KO

Corbin - Zayn



I'm interested!

If the preview image on the SD! page for tonight is any indication (not saying it is), then expect to also see tonight: Charlotte, Emma and Roman.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Smackdown actually wanting the Shinning Stars. Last thing they need is more jobber or low tier teams.

[ClockShot]

Primo & Epico in casualware.

Whatever.

[Maluco]

Ascension, Breezango, Shooting Stars!??

Smackdown tag division is STACKED!!

[ClockShot]

Hey, Smackdown got Jacked Jinder Mahal.

[Evil Vito]

Please tell me SmackDown is getting another team and not just The Shining Stars.....

[DAMN iNATOR]

Please tell me SmackDown is getting another team and not just The Shining Stars.....

Golden Truth? :shifty:

[GD]

I don't think they're The Shining Stars anymore.

[KIRA]

The SHINING Stars? lol


oooo SDL got the greatest pick of all Jinder Mahal and his iron veins of peace

[slik]

‪Just went to take pizza out of oven, did the tag match end, what happened?‬

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wait...the man who's first half of his last name is the Monday show isn't now on that show?!

[ClockShot]

Gronk's back again.

He must know a guy, or is looking for a new job.

[Evil Vito]

I love the idea of Kurt Angle and Daniel Bryan sitting down to discuss trades, and at some point they were like

"Fancy swapping Jinder Mahal for Curt Hawkins?"
"Er, I mean.. yeah, I guess?"

[DAMN iNATOR]

OH BOY....THIS'LL BE A BARN BURNER! :roll:

[Emperor Smeat]

Guess Jinder got tired of smashing people in the face on RAW.

This would have been a bad pick if it wasn't for the stuff at Mania since it at least gives him something meaningful to work with unlike with Hawkins.

[KIRA]

If I were running SDL I'd except a sandwich made in 1995 to trade Mojo to RAW

[Droford]

How did Mojo not get sent to RAW

[DAMN iNATOR]

I love the idea of Kurt Angle and Daniel Bryan sitting down to discuss trades, and at some point they were like

"Fancy swapping Jinder Mahal for Curt Hawkins?"
"Er, I mean.. yeah, I guess?"

I like the idea of them swapping GM positions to different shows better, but then again 90% of that is an excuse I want for American Alpha and Kurt to interact.

[ClockShot]

Heh. Lil' Naitch almost got ran over.

[slik]

WHAT are they doing to #SDLive

[DAMN iNATOR]

Uhh...that's assault.

[ClockShot]

Ouch. I heard that.

[Droford]

Ill assume Jinder got traded for that spot right there and by next week hell be forgotten

[Evil Vito]

So if we're doing a scorecard of the trades here's where we're at:

Ambrose for Owens
Miz for Zayn
Slater and Rhyno for Primo y Epico
Hawkins for Jinder
Otunga for Saxton

Raw also obtained Wyatt, Alexa, Mickie, Crews, and Kalisto

SmackDown would definitely be bringing in two women I'm sure. So it's the other three I'm wondering about. I think Crews and Kalisto may have been swapped for another tag team, because they need the help there. It's likely a face team.

So that leaves the question of who moved, if anybody, moved over for Wyatt. Can't see it being Strowman since he's being positioned to face Lesnar for a few PPVs down the line and of course they did the Reigns angle.

Maybe Samoa Joe? It'd keep him with Owens if they want to stay aligned. He can have a blowoff with Rollins at Payback and then switch shows?

[Bad News Gertner]

fuck outta here with these anti smoking commercials

Excuse me miss. Please keep the cursing to a minimum or I'll ban you

[GD]

This is my own hair, I can do anything with it. It's mine.

[slik]

‪After flop jinder and flop shining stars we'll prob get flop dana brooks‬

[ClockShot]

So if we're doing a scorecard of the trades here's where we're at:

Ambrose for Owens
Miz for Zayn
Slater and Rhyno for Primo y Epico
Hawkins for Jinder
Otunga for Saxton

Raw also obtained Wyatt, Alexa, Mickie, Crews, and Kalisto

SmackDown would definitely be bringing in two women I'm sure. So it's the other three I'm wondering about. I think Crews and Kalisto may have been swapped for another tag team, because they need the help there. It's likely a face team.

So that leaves the question of who moved, if anybody, moved over for Wyatt. Can't see it being Strowman since he's being positioned to face Lesnar for a few PPVs down the line and of course they did the Reigns angle.

Maybe Samoa Joe? It'd keep him with Owens if they want to stay aligned. He can have a blowoff with Rollins at Payback and then switch shows?

Nakamura here tonight? Gotta get something going with him.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Na-glow-mi

[Emperor Smeat]

Going to laugh if Smackdown also gets the other feud that never ends for Smackdown's women's division by getting both Charlotte and Sasha.

[GD]

Got to listen to a different side of Shane O'Mac on Edge and Christian's new podcast.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Oh no, Carmella brought Slam Master James...UGH...

[Droford]

4 people isnt a division

[DAMN iNATOR]

Becky killing it in that mini-skirt...

[ClockShot]

Fire Ellsworth.

[DAMN iNATOR]

4 people isnt a division

This is the part where they add 2 former RAW women...

[GD]

The crowd is surprisingly hot for the women's division.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Naomi not acting in a manner befitting of the SD! Women's Champion.

SHAME!

SHAME!

SHAME!

[KIRA]

cALLING ELLSWORTH A BITCH

[ClockShot]

What the?!

[Droford]

lol tamina

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL BULLSHIT, Shane. You didn't really acquire her...

[Droford]

Shrunken Nia Jax

[Evil Vito]

LOL whaaaaaat

[ClockShot]

Shane with the swerveball.

I totally forgot about her.

[slik]

Oh ffs

[Poit]

:lol:

[GD]

James Ellsworth is to the women's division what Alicia Fox is to the cruiserweight division.

[Theo Dious]

HAHA

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: crowd wants Sasha, gets Charlotte instead.

[ClockShot]

If Shane's calling Charlotte Smackdown's best get, I'm a bit worried about who else is coming over.

[GD]

Tamina has arrived...:rofl:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Nice of them to provide Tamina for Charlotte as a butch lesbian sidekick and love interest though...I'd be very disappointed indeed if they don't also bring Emma in later, and also how many more weeks/months can they honestly afford to keep Asuka in NXT? Put her on SD! also.

Then you've got 8 women on SD! Not exactly robust, but 6 is very limiting. I'd even go as far as to suggest that before something like this happens again, that each women's division consist of no less than 10-12 women.

[KIRA]

Don't play with my feelings Shane where is Asuka and where the fuck is Alicia Fox?

[Droford]

If Shane's calling Charlotte Smackdown's best get, I'm a bit worried about who else is coming over.

nobody hes done

[Poit]

James Ellsworth is to the women's division what Alicia Fox is to the cruiserweight division.

Now I'm imagining Noam Dar saying "James Ellswooooooooooorth".

[Emperor Smeat]

Not counting Tamina, Sami was the only pick so far that didn't lose last night on RAW.

[KIRA]

James Ellsworth is to the women's division what Alicia Fox is to the cruiserweight division.

I can't insult you for that because it's true godamnit!:nono:

[Evil Vito]

Tamina wasn't on the Raw roster, so this is just a way of putting across that Charlotte was worth trading two women for.

[GD]

Wish Jack Swagger did a "little lungs" ad :shifty:

[KIRA]

Getting Charlotte was not worth losing Mickie James

[slik]

Charlotte, AJ, Kevin Owens, Shinsuke.

Still the A-Show after all (though barely b/c Finn and Braun on RAW)

[#1-norm-fan]

Nice of them to provide Stamina for Charlotte as a butch lesbian sidekick and love interest though...

#BULLyNATOR

[ClockShot]

Alright, Rusev.

[Droford]

RUSEV ! WOOO

[KIRA]

SIN CARA? LOL

[Emperor Smeat]

Sin Cara going to Smackdown pretty much squashed the rumor of Lucha Dragons possibly reuniting.

:y: Rusev to Smackdown.

[DAMN iNATOR]

RUSEV UDRYA!

RUSEV MASCHKA!

[KaosDarksol]

guess the Lucha Dragons aren't happening

[KIRA]

Rusev thats a start

[Emperor Smeat]

http://i.imgur.com/i4jnXZA.gif

[Evil Vito]

The Artiste :love:

[ClockShot]

Aiden English.

Where do you go from here?

A squash with Tye it seems.

[Poit]

The Artiste is back!

[KIRA]

How has Aden not started a feud with the Drifter?

[GD]

Aiden English is doing his old gimmick again :)

[DAMN iNATOR]

Don't care what anybody says, I enjoyed the Vaudevillians on the main roster.

[slik]

Rusev vs Shinsuke plz

[GD]

So much for Aiden's singles push.

[Evil Vito]

I think JBL has toned down his schtick tonight

[Emperor Smeat]

With the recent set of trades, seems like Smackdown's midcard/US scene improved the most so far.

Sami, Owens, Corbin, Rusev, Harper, and Nakamura/Styles as the main guys for it right now.

[Evil Vito]

So much for Aiden's singles push.

He was never going to get a push

His ceiling has always been comedy heel jobber, which is a better role than tag team jobber on a sparingly used tag team

[GD]

Would be quite interesting if Lesnar brings the Universal title to Smackdown. Pretty much confirming Wyatt's second reign as WWE Champion.

[ClockShot]

Dah.

Lana.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at this hype package for Lana.

Guess on the bright side, women's division got beefed up a bit more.

[slik]

Dolph vs shinsuke???

I would like that

[Droford]

Dolphs gotta run to RAW now like the miz did

[Evil Vito]

Lana's been wrestling on NXT live events. Makes sense to use her in the women's division while Rusev recovers.

[ClockShot]

Zigs and Nakamura.

Let's go.

[KIRA]

Nakamura's destiny was to knee Miz in the face and they cheated him out of it!

[GD]

Is it just me or is the Smackdown set a bit different than that of Raw's?

[Evil Vito]

Ziggler makes sense as a starter feud for Nakamura. They had him instead of Miz work him in the dark match last week for a reason.

[GD]

This crowd has been incredible all throughout the night. I miss Boston already.

[ClockShot]

Is it just me or is the Smackdown set a bit different than that of Raw's?

It's different. Leveled entrance ramp, entrance is centered for superstars, Raw's is off to the side.

Just a few things.

Most times, Smackdown gets smaller venues which calls for a smaller set.

[GD]

It's different. Leveled entrance ramp, entrance is centered for superstars, Raw's is off to the side.

Just a few things.

:y::y::y:

[KIRA]

Nakamura is so full of charisma he never has to open his mouth

[GD]

Nakamura is so full of charisma he never has to open his mouth

...to speak.

[Evil Vito]

I will be fascinated to see how the crowd in a traditionally non-smarky town reacts to Nakamura.

[Droford]

I just realized that the RAW PPV is going to have Bray vs Orton

figured away around not using Brock I see

[ClockShot]

I will be fascinated to see how the crowd in a traditionally non-smarky town reacts to Nakamura.

Raw was in NYC (sort of) last night and I was expecting the crowd to sing along to The Revival's them and "SAY YEAH".

Nope.

And New York City regularly has some smart fans there.

[Droford]

New day to SD

[Emperor Smeat]

New Day to Smackdown is good but once again probably going to be a damaged goods pick due to their feud with Revival.

[ClockShot]

And I was really hoping The New Day would stay put on Raw.

[KIRA]

Without Corey Graves there is nobody to counter Saxtons nerdiness

[GD]

Byron Saxton unleashed. He seems happy not to be around Graves.

[Evil Vito]

One of New Day, Enzo/Cass, or Sheamus/Cesaro HAD to go over. Had to.

Alpha are the only face team and, let's be real, they aren't turning Breezango or The Ascension face.

[GD]

Johnny Curtis / Fandango and Tyler Breeze need a make over. The Fashion Police is done.

[DAMN iNATOR]

One of New Day, Enzo/Cass, or Sheamus/Cesaro HAD to go over. Had to.

Alpha are the only face team and, let's be real, they aren't turning Breezango or The Ascension face.

*Tosses a pile of tickets at your feet*

[slik]

Outside of Braun/Finn SD once again has the brst overall and most balanced roster

[ClockShot]

You're the new guy here, Zayn.

I expect you to take the fall.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Raw was in NYC (sort of) last night and I was expecting the crowd to sing along to The Revival's them and "SAY YEAH".

Nope.

And New York City regularly has some smart fans there.

Were they? I was led to believe that Uniondale is much closer to Canada than NYC as I noticed a USA#1 APand a Canadian flag in the arena last night.

[Emperor Smeat]

You're the new guy here, Zayn.

I expect you to take the fall.

Yes and especially for Owens' sanity or what's left of it after tonight's opening.

[slik]

Wait is Finn really injured

[Shisen Kopf]

Smackdown should sign Colin Kaepernick. He's not doing anything. He'd be number 1 heel in the company

[Emperor Smeat]

Wait is Finn really injured
Yeup. Got confirmed to have suffered a concussion last night.

Seems like he was legit knocked out by Mahal's elbow and then woke up after landing face first to the mat.

[Emperor Smeat]

Really great clothesline by Corbin.

[ClockShot]

Man, either Finn Balor is really made of glass, or he's just got the worst luck.

[Evil Vito]

I just screamed at that Exploder Suplex on Corbin. I thought he was about to break his neck.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LET'S GO, A.J.!

[ClockShot]

"United tried to take my seat" sign.

:lol:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Smackdown should sign Colin Kaepernick. He's not doing anything. He'd be number 1 heel in the company

*LeBron run-in*

[ClockShot]

Do all refs wear gloves? Or just this guy?

[Evil Vito]

Think I need to go to the SmackDown house show in Bridgeport in a couple of months

Sucks Bridgeport seems to have been taken out of the rotation for TV tapings, haven't had one since 2012. But house shows are still fun and this SmackDown roster is excellent.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Clash on Baron and make Sami tap to the Calf Crusher! Come on, A.J.!

[slik]

Send Jinder back to NXT or to a Wellness Test ASAP

Get better soon Finn!

#HinderJinderPlease

[DAMN iNATOR]

Do all refs wear gloves? Or just this guy?

I think they all do as a precaution in case they need to deal with a bloodied superstar.

[ClockShot]

Thanks Sami. You're a team player.

[ClockShot]

Pretty good for a triple threat. Corbin's getting better, imo.

[Droford]

Jericho gonna win the US Title

Y2AJ Re-explodes

[Juan]

Good match

[Droford]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17904256_1311905832226959_5268501766070431069_n.jpg?oh=a8231ce742185f1386092cd7a772e418&oe=5950E084

[Triple A]

Raw was in NYC (sort of) last night and I was expecting the crowd to sing along to The Revival's them and "SAY YEAH".

Nope.

And New York City regularly has some smart fans there.

Long Island sucks.......

[Simple Fan]

Was hoping Gallows and Anderson would have come over and I think Smackdown could have used another tag team as well.

[Emperor Smeat]

Is it going to be a fish in the box?

Guess not although not sure its a wise idea to piss off Alicia.

[Evil Vito]

Heel TJ Perkins is miles better than face TJ Perkins.

Fitting too cause I want to boo TJP.

[#1-norm-fan]

Can't imagine going to a Smackdown and sticking around for 205 Live. How do they get anyone in the crowd to do that? Much less enough to not make it look weird on TV.

[#1-norm-fan]

Or does it look weird on TV? I haven't been watching.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Ziggler trying to hype up the Shining Stars as a great acquisition for Smackdown.

[Poit]

Can't imagine going to a Smackdown and sticking around for 205 Live. How do they get anyone in the crowd to do that? Much less enough to not make it look weird on TV.

Last week we had a Nakamura/Ziggler dark match after 205 Live to get people to stay.

Also, 205 Live has good wrestling.

[#1-norm-fan]

Most of the time the crowd doesn't seem to really care about the cruiserweights when they're on Raw though. An entire show with them AFTER Smackdown is so bizarre. It's like if they taped Velocity after Smackdown back in the day. I'd just be like "Um... This is weird and anti-climactic. I'm going home."

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at them talking randomly about shoes and Owens having cheap ones on Talking Smack.

[Triple A]

Watched YouTube highlights

JBL seemed like he was trying to be "extra nice and friendly" all night... feel bad for him kinda

[Triple A]

Becky Lynch looks different and "hotter"

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ignoring the womens and tag divisions still being a little anaemic, happier with the SD roster than I was before the shakeup. Sami, KO and Rusev should fit in well and I love Nak, AJ and Tye. It's made it more the in-ring show.

Lost it at the Tamina intro and I kinda like Primo and Epico in the ring when they don't have a shitty gimmick.

Fuck Jinder though.

[Dewidi]

Kind of funny WWE teases a possible stable of Joe, Owens, and Triple H going into Mania and then drops it as quickly as it started.

That's the WWE for you a lot of what they do makes no sense like putting the raw world title on Crock Leastnerd

[Dewidi]

Can't imagine going to a Smackdown and sticking around for 205 Live. How do they get anyone in the crowd to do that? Much less enough to not make it look weird on TV.
Its prob taped b4 smackdown and they just say its live they had 3 or 4 OVW matches
One time when I went here in Louisville that only were seen on OVWs show on sats / Sun

[Ruien]

Ignoring the womens and tag divisions still being a little anaemic, happier with the SD roster than I was before the shakeup. Sami, KO and Rusev should fit in well and I love Nak, AJ and Tye. It's made it more the in-ring show.

Lost it at the Tamina intro and I kinda like Primo and Epico in the ring when they don't have a shitty gimmick.

Fuck Jinder though.

Rusev for Wyatt is fair but I think losing Miz for Owens (or anyone) is a huge loss. Imo.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Rusev for Wyatt is fair but I think losing Miz for Owens (or anyone) is a huge loss. Imo.

Nah, his shoot promos can be seen on YouTube and he wasn't great in the ring still, so I like it. Owens can do both.

[Blonde Moment]

The more I listen to shinsuke nakamura's theme the more I think he had the reaction he is getting from it in mind when he wanted his theme "just right".

[Evil Vito]

Now that it's over with, I gotta say I really loved doing trades like this instead of the arbitrary "random" draft. If you line the trades up side by side it's really not hard to see why most of them made sense from a kayfabe perspective.

Miz for Zayn: Bryan obviously hates Miz and would look for any excuse to get rid of him, there's every reason to expect he'd want Sami on his roster, and Sami's already annoyed Angle with his neurotic gimmick.

Ambrose for Owens: Bryan positioned this as more of a title for title swap since whoever wins the US Title match at Payback goes to SmackDown - guessing he just wanted to move Ambrose off because he and Corbin were killing each other and he knew he'd get back somebody good no matter what.

Alexa and Mickie for Charlotte: Angle's getting two for one value and Bryan's getting the one who has clearly been positioned as the best women's wrestler on the roster. Also he signed Tamina separately so no loss in headcount for the division.

Wyatt for New Day: It makes sense for a guy who just lost the WWE title a week ago to cost more than one person and allows Bryan to beef up a tag division that needs it.

Slater/Rhyno for Primo/Epico: Angle views it as a chance to bring in recent champions while Primo and Epico work a style Bryan prefers.

Crews/Kalisto for Rusev/Jinder: If you group these guys together I could see the logic. Angle's getting two really talented guys who were underutilized on SmackDown and who could feasibly team up, Bryan's getting a guy who is hurt but should be a beast when he's back, and Jinder who has improved and has a built-in feud with a SmackDown guy already.

Hawkins for Sin Cara: Hawkins has not won a match but Sin Cara doesn't even get booked, I just see this as a straight up change of scenery move.

Maryse for Lana: Just swapping spouses/managers for people that were already involved in other trades.

[Ezra]

Ascension, Breezango, Shooting Stars!??

Smackdown tag division is STACKED!!

Harper and Rowan will go back to teaming, I reckon and of course you have New Day.

Edit: IM sure this has been answered by now. For some reason when I click on the thread it took me to this post.

[Ezra]

Its prob taped b4 smackdown and they just say its live they had 3 or 4 OVW matches
One time when I went here in Louisville that only were seen on OVWs show on sats / Sun

It's done live on the network after Smackdown. Definitely not the best idea.

[Jordan]

AJ is a great "Face" of Smackdown, the kids love him and so do the marks. He's the fucking man right now.

[Cool King]

• I thought for a second yesterday that Owens would be traded and that the match with Jericho would still go ahead but whoever was the US Champion after the match would be on SmackDown but then I thought that the WWE would never do anything like that, so I counted Owens out for being on SmackDown.

How wrong was I.

Seeing Owens shaved and in a suit makes him look like someone's dad who always has a "hard day at the office". He really needs to change his hairstyle though, as a short back and sides with tiny gelled spikes on the top just screams "1999". If he's going to be this smartly dressed slow/calmly talking heel (just like Jericho in 2008) then a hairstyle change is needed.

• I almost cried when Zayn's music hit. With both Owens and Zayn on SmackDown, it means we're going to get Zayn vs Owens #3314 and beyond for the next year at least.

• The Tag Team Championship match was so good. I'd actually say it was the best match of the night.

Primo & Epico appearing was a real surprise. They were one of my "wild picks" for SmackDown. I really wanted them to go to SmackDown but I really felt like it would never happen.

With them attacking American Alpha in the way that they did, it fills me with some hope for the guys. I really want these guys to succeed on SmackDown and not just be the wasted talent they were on Raw.

• Another one of my "wild picks" was Jinder Mahal, so seeing him on SmackDown was another good moment for me. Just like Primo & Epico, I want Jinder to succeed on SmackDown but that all went down the drain with his match with Mojo.

I fail to see how Mojo is the good guy in all this or how it makes him look good when stacked up against Mahal.

In both meetings, Mojo has beaten Mahal but only with the help of some american football player. It actually makes me feel bad for Mahal that he's getting screwed out of wins because the referee won't DQ Mojo for outside interference.

• Nice swerve from Shane. I completely forgot about Tamina but it's good to see her back.

Charlotte was one change we all knew but I felt a bit bad for Tamina during it all. It was like she was some kind of afterthought and the "real news" was Charlotte.

• Sin Cara on SmackDown? Why?

Why not keep him on Raw for the Cruiserweight Division? He's just going to take the place of Kalisto on SmackDown and be the unused masked luchador that's missing out on the Cruiserweight Division.

• I was again, surprised that Rusev was traded. I thought he would have been but I changed my mind and counted him out due to him being out with an injury.

I think SmackDown is going to be great for Rusev.

• Before, Aiden English was a tag team jobber with a Vaudeville gimmick. Now, he's a singles jobber with a singing gimmick.

As for <s>Mr. Perfect 2K17</s> Tye Dillinger, I want to like the guy, I really do, but this "TEN!" bullshit from the crowd is just so annoying and off-putting.

I get that the ten thing is his gimmick but when the crowd constantly yells "TEN!" at everything and even during the referee's count, it just quickly gets annoying.

It's like the new "WHAT!?" but the only difference is that "WHAT!?" took a good while to get annoying. "TEN!" is annoying from the get-go. It's up there with "DELETE!" and Enzo Amore.

• Whoa, Lana.

• When is Nakamura actually going to have a match?

• New Day going to Raw is another one we all knew was happening.

Seeing Saxton's reaction to the news just reminded me of how terrible he is and how we need Graves to be next to him to shoot him down when Saxton gets too "Saxton-like".

It also made me wonder what Graves is going to do now that Saxton is gone from Raw. Some of Graves' best stuff was his put-downs towards Saxton. I really can't see Otunga providing any opportunities for Graves to work his magic now on Raw.

• With AJ winning, it's pretty much obvious that Owens is retaining at Payback.

• Overall, SmackDown did get some goodies, but I think Raw came out on top which is not really surprising as it's Raw.

However, I really think SmackDown can continue on with the trend of being the superior show and making magic out of the lesser hand they've been dealt.

[Simple Fan]

I don't see Tye going far either. I don't even understand what his gimmick is, is he's perfect 10 or is 10 the only number he knows. I'd think a guy that thinks he's a perfect 10 would 've more of a heel.

[#1-norm-fan]

So... If Chris Jericho wins the US title, he goes to Smackdown?

Does that mean if Bray Wyatt wins the World title, he goes back too?

[Ezra]

Don't always try to make sense of storylines lol.

[Evil Vito]

Probably, but we all know he isn't winning so it's a bit moot.

I'm guessing the Demon Balor shows up during the House of Horrors to cost Bray the match. Genuinely no idea who Orton's next program would be with. Corbin maybe?

[Simple Fan]

Probably, but we all know he isn't winning so it's a bit moot.

I'm guessing the Demon Balor shows up during the House of Horrors to cost Bray the match. Genuinely no idea who Orton's next program would be with. Corbin maybe?

Ideally it would be Styles but I don't see that now with him in the US title picture. Doubt they'd put Nak into the main event that quick but he could after he's done with Ziggler. Corbin seems most likely though so it can be heel vs face.

[XL]

I don't see Tye going far either. I don't even understand what his gimmick is, is he's perfect 10 or is 10 the only number he knows. I'd think a guy that thinks he's a perfect 10 would 've more of a heel.

Aha, the beauty of all of a characters' progression being on NXT. He was a heel, but the fans started to like him and he became a face. Now he's on SDL and anyone that didn't watch NXT will be incredibly confused by it all.

[Destor]

Smart moves ll around. Hope Streen goes to SD. Mid card seems good there.

[Simple Fan]

Aha, the beauty of all of a characters' progression being on NXT. He was a heel, but the fans started to like him and he became a face. Now he's on SDL and anyone that didn't watch NXT will be incredibly confused by it all.

Ok, still needs something though. To be a perfect 10 he looks kind of average. I'd seen some of his NXT stuff but only as a face. Definitely needs more character development on the main roster.

[#1-norm-fan]

Probably, but we all know he isn't winning so it's a bit moot.

From a trade... I mean... SUPERSTAR SHAKEUP standpoint though... The entire situation is a mess.

I know trying to fill in the plot holes to make WWE make sense is a lost cause but I still try, dammit.

[Ruien]

They probably traded the US and IC belt.

[Evil Vito]

From a trade... I mean... SUPERSTAR SHAKEUP standpoint though... The entire situation is a mess.

I know trying to fill in the plot holes to make WWE make sense is a lost cause but I still try, dammit.

I would venture to guess that if Wyatt won the belt, Orton would go to Raw instead. Mainly because Bryan said whoever won the US Title match would be SmackDown property so I'm thinking the same rules apply.

I actually like the idea of being able to simply trade titles, although the IC and US titles are the only ones you can do it with as the rest of the belts are color-coded.

[#1-norm-fan]

They probably traded the US and IC belt.

That situation makes some sense. They traded belts so in the end they get the US Title AND whoever holds it after the Jericho-Owens match. It's the world title situation that's confusing since the same wouldn't apply. I guess Raw could have traded for whoever the loser of the match is like Vito said. But Bray kinda made it clear he's on Raw now.

[Evil Vito]

I will say it until I'm blue in the face - get rid of Sin Cara and bring back Hunico dammit. Hunico ruled.

[Cool King]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that in my post.

If the whole point of Sin Cara moving to SmackDown was to eventually have the return of Hunico then I'd be all for it.

[slik]

I forgot about Sin Cara completely until they said his name last night.

[Emperor Smeat]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that in my post.

If the whole point of Sin Cara moving to SmackDown was to eventually have the return of Hunico then I'd be all for it.

What if they gave him a version of Matt's #Broken gimmick by having Jinder be the one to "break" him into becoming Hunico again. Just have to tell Jinder to not literally break or injure him to make it happen.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That situation makes some sense. They traded belts so in the end they get the US Title AND whoever holds it after the Jericho-Owens match. It's the world title situation that's confusing since the same wouldn't apply. I guess Raw could have traded for whoever the loser of the match is like Vito said. But Bray kinda made it clear he's on Raw now.

Well as all the trades were done on an individual level, who knows what the trade discussions forgot? Maybe Smackdown had to give up the world title right because they wanted Owens that much? Trade negotiations can be complex beasts and it totally just wasn't something they forgot to address by Raw!!

[Simple Fan]

Hope they don't pair Rusev with Jinder once he returns. Hell he could probably return as a face.

[Lock Jaw]

LANALINA COMING SOON

[#BROKEN Hasney]

TJP V Jack Gallagher is one of the best matches on 205 Live ever. The shackles may be slowly coming off.