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Destor
09-03-2017, 10:20 AM
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<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option> <option>#1. Trish Stratus vs Charlotte (27-13)</option> <option>#2. Trish Stratus vs The Miz (20-13)</option> <option>#3. Trish Stratus vs Booker T (19-19)</option> <option>#4. Trish Stratus vs The Big Show (19-9)</option> <option>#5. Trish Stratus vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (10-25)</option> <option>#6. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs Bokker T (22-13)</option> <option>#7. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs Kevin Nash (17-16)</option> <option>#8. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs John Cena (6-21)</option> <option>#9. John Cena vs Kevin Owens (25-8)</option> <option>#10. John Cena vs Goldberg (28-4)</option> <option>#11. John Cena vs Chris Jericho (4-33)</option> <option>#12. Chris Jericho vs AJ Styles (26-6)</option> <option>#13. Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit (26-5)</option> <option>#14. Chris Jericho vs Kurt Angle (9-27)</option> <option>#15. Kurt Angle vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-5)</option> <option>#16. Kurt Angle vs "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes (17-14)</option> <option>#17. Kurt Angle vs Eddie Guerrero (23-12)</option> <option>#18. Kurt Angle vs "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels (21-22)</option> <option>#19. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels vs Christian (31-7)</option> <option>#20. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels vs Mick Foley (27-7)</option><option>#21. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (20-23)</option><option>#22. Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs Vader (24-15)</option><option>#23. Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (20-18)</option><option>#24. Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (12-24)</option><option>#25. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior (34-4)</option><option>#26. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-3)</option><option>#27. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Triple H (32-6)</option><option>#28. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs The Undertaker (24-19)</option><option>#29. Roman Reigns vs Lex Luger (21-20)</option><option>#30. Roman Reigns vs The Great Khali (20-18)</option><option>#31. Roman Reigns vs AJ Lee (14-24)</option><option>#32. AJ Lee vs Emma (32-6)</option><option>#33. AJ Lee vs Lita (11-26)</option><option>#34. Lita vs John Morrison (15-22)</option><option> #35. John Morrison vs Ricochet (26-6)</option><option>#36. John Morrison vs Dean Malenko (8-25)</option><option>#37. Dean Malenko vs Perry Saturn (23-10)</option><option>#38. Dean Malenko vs Taz (19-22)</option><option>#39. Taz vs Shane Douglas (28-3)</option><option>#40. Taz vs Raven (15-19)</option><option>#41. Raven vs Bray Wyatt (20-11)</option><option>#42. Raven vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (7-25)</option><option>#43. "Diamond" Dallas Page vs Scott Hall (14-16)</option><option>#44. Scott Hall vs Sid Vicious (29-4)</option><option>#45. Scott Hall vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (26-8)</option><option>#46. Scott Hall vs "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase (13-17)</option><option>#47. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase vs "Dr. Death" Steve Williams (24-6)</option><option>#48. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase vs Sting (12-26)</option><option>#49. Sting vs Matt Hardy (26-8)</option><option>#50. Sting vs Edge (13-24)</option><option>#51. Edge vs Kane (20-13)</option><option>#52. Edge vs Dean Ambrose (22-13)</option><option>#53. Edge vs CM Punk (12-24)</option><option>#54. CM Punk vs Rob Van Damn (18-19) </option><option>#55. Rob Van Dam vs Adrian Neville (26-7)</option><option>#56. Rob Van Dam vs Rey Mysterio (10-22)</option><option>#57. Rey Mysterio vs Scott Steiner (18-12)</option><option>#58. Rey Mysterio vs Jeff Hardy (20-15)</option><option>#59. Rey Mysterio vs Brock Lesnar (6-26)</option><option>#60. Brock Lesnar vs John "Bradshaw" Layfield (28-3)</option><option>#61. Brock Lesnar vs Randy Orton (21-12)</option><option>#62. Brock Lesnar vs John Cena (13-17)</option><option> #63. John Cena vs Vince McMahon (18-12)</option><option>#64. John Cena vs Andre The Giant (11-18)</option><option>#65. Andre The Giant vs The Big Show (21-8)</option><option>#66. Andre The Giant vs Sgt. Slaughter (23-5)</option><option>#67. Andre The Giant vs Chris Jericho (15-18)</option><option>#68. Chris Jericho vs Shinsuke Nakamura (23-5)</option><option> #69. Chris Jericho vs Terry Funk (18-19)</option><option>#70. Terry Funk vs Bob Backlund (22-6)</option><option>#71. Terry Funk vs Jerry "The King" Lawler (14-15)</option><option>#72. Jerry "The King" Lawler vs Bam Bam Bigelow (19-6)</option><option>#73. Jerry "The King" Lawler vs Harley Race (14-11)</option><option>#74. Jerry "The King" Lawler vs "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson (15-20)</option><option>#75. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs Austin Ares (26-2)</option><option>#76. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (24-13)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. Eddie Guerrero vs. Curt Hennig (34-43)</option><option>#154. Curt Hennig vs. Jerry Lawler (63-9)</option><option>#155. Curt Hennig vs. Hulk Hogan (54-17)</option><option>#156. Curt Hennig vs. Christian (47-26)</option><option>#157. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (31-44)</option><option>#158. The Rock vs. Steve Blackman (54-22)</option><option>#159. The Rock vs. Vader (54-14)</option><option>#160. The Rock vs. Mick Foley (48-22)</option><option>#161. The Rock vs. Bret Hart (42-49)</option><option>#162. Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (70-8)</option><option>#163. Bret Hart vs. Dean Malenko (52-16)</option><option>#164. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (47-18)</option><option>#165. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (53-32)</option><option>#166. Barry Darsow vs. Ed Leslie (45-13)</option><option>#167. Barry Darsow vs. Jacques Rougeau (17-38)</option><option>#168. Jacques Rougeau vs. Evan Bourne (18-49)</option><option>#169. Evan Bourne vs. Mr. Anderson (38-16)</option><option>#170. Evan Bourne vs. Bryan Danielson(10-50)</option><option>#171. Bryan Danielson vs. Billy Gunn (56-16)</option><option>#172. Bryan Danielson vs. The Miz (42-26)</option><option>#173. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Benoit (27-40)</option><option>#174. Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (53-8)</option><option>#175. Chris Benoit vs. Perry Saturn (48-13)</option><option>#176. Chris Benoit vs. Lance Storm (36-21)</option><option>#177. Chris Benoit vs. Ted Dibiase (41-34)</option><option>#178. TAKA Michinoku vs. Sho Funaki (51-9)</option><option>#179. TAKA Michinoku vs. Santino Marella (48-9)</option><option>#180. TAKA Michinoku vs. Rey Mysterio (23-41)</option><option>#181. Rey Mysterio vs. Gregory Helms (34-8)</option><option>#182. Rey Mysterio vs. Jeff Hardy (41-18)</option><option>#183. Rey Mysterio vs. Diamond Dallas Page (34-37)</option><option>#184. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Big Boss Man (49-5)</option><option>#185. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri (34-18)</option><option>#186. Diamond Dallas Page vs. CM Punk (19-41)</option><option>#187. CM Punk vs. Terry Funk (35-18)</option><option>#188. CM Punk vs. Kane (40-13)</option><option>#189. CM Punk vs. Rob Van Dam (39-22)</option><option>#190. CM Punk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (39-37)</option><option>#191. Ted DiBiase, Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes (23-36)</option><option>#192. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (10-51)</option><option>#193. Goldust vs. Shelton Benjamin (41-22)</option><option>#194. Goldust vs. Rick Rude (21-37)</option><option>#195. Rick Rude vs. Rick Martel (42-6)</option><option>#196. Rick Rude vs. The Big Show (30-15)</option><option>#197. Rick Rude vs. Jake Roberts (26-38)</option><option>#198. Jake Roberts vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (50-16)</option><option>#199. Jake Roberts vs. Arn Anderson (39-31)</option><option>#200. Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman (34-20)</option><option>#201. Jake Roberts vs. Edge (42-28)</option><option>#202. Raven vs. Shane Douglas (45-6)</option><option>#203. Raven vs. R-Truth (39-6)</option><option>#204. Raven vs. Booker T (31-40)</option><option>#205. Booker T vs. Jerry Lawler (37-20)</option><option>#206. Booker T vs. Sheamus (51-11)</option><option>#207. Booker T vs. Christian (21-33)</option><option>#208. Christian vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger (30-21)</option><option>#209. Christian vs. Kevin Nash (30-24)</option><option>#210. Christian vs. Randy Orton (41-22)</option><option>#211. Christian vs. Eddie Guerrero (10-66)</option><option>#212. Eddie Guerrero vs. Andre the Giant (55-16)</option><option>#213. Eddie Guerrero vs. Hulk Hogan (47-29)</option><option>#214. Eddie Guerrero vs. Scott Hall (47-18)</option><option>#215. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock (28-40)</option><option>#216. The Rock vs. William Regal (39-17)</option><option>#217. The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar (47-13)</option><option>#218. The Rock vs. Sting (31-19)</option><option>#219. The Rock vs. Triple H (40-27)</option><option>#220. Ahmed Johnson vs. Ezekiel Jackson (41-11)</option><option>#221. Ahmed Johnson vs. The Godfather (6-44)</option><option>#222. The Godfather vs. D'Lo Brown (9-42)</option><option>#223. D'Lo Brown vs. Val Venis (29-20)</option><option>#224. D'Lo Brown vs. Mark Henry (36-23)</option><option>#225. D'Lo Brown vs. The Miz (10-46)</option><option>#226. The Miz vs. John Morrison (52-13)</option><option>#227. The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler (39-49)</option><option>#228. Dolph Ziggler vs. Wade Barrett (42-21)</option><option>#229. Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (38-31)</option><option>#230. Dolph Ziggler vs. Lance Storm (38-37)</option><option>#231. Dolph Ziggler vs. Curt Hennig (18-55)</option><option>#233. Curt Hennig vs. Zack Ryder (62-8)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Vader (45-14)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Owen Hart (38-22)</option><option>#235. Curt Hennig vs. Ric Flair (48-39)</option><option>#236. Jesse James vs. Billy Gunn (16-38)</option><option>#237. Billy Gunn vs. Sabu (40-15)</option><option>#238. Billy Gunn vs. Scott Steiner (20-38)</option><option>#239. Scott Steiner vs. Billy Kidman (28-26)</option><option>#240. Scott Steiner vs. Alberto Del Rio (25-34)</option><option>#241. Alberto Del Rio vs. X-Pac (29-25)</option><option>#242. Alberto Del Rio vs. Cody Rhodes (19-44)</option><option>#243. Cody Rhodes vs. Kofi Kingston (49-7)</option><option>#244. Cody Rhodes vs. Dusty Rhodes (30-30)</option><option>#245. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (18-31)</option><option>#246. Goldust vs. Dusty Rhodes (31-15)</option><option>#247. Goldust vs. Vader (29-39)</option><option>#248. Vader vs. Yokozuna (55-8)</option><option>#249. Vader vs Stan Hansen (31-10)</option><option>#250. Vader vs. Mick Foley (15-41)</option><option>#251. Mick Foley vs. Terry Funk (34-18)</option><option>#252. Mick Foley vs. Santino Marella (60-2)</option><option>#253. Mick Foley vs. Diamond Dallas Page (40-19)</option><option>#254. Mick Foley vs. Edge (49-28)</option><option>#255. Tajiri vs. Super Crazy (62-4)</option><option>#256. Tajiri vs The Great Muta (17-35)</option><option>#257. The Great Muta vs. Ultimo Dragon (32-28)</option><option>#258. The Great Muta vs. Brian Pillman (32-21)</option><option>#259. The Great Muta vs. Booker T (24-36)</option><option>#260. Booker T vs. Ron Simmons (50-13)</option><option>#261. Booker T vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (37-20)</option><option>#262. Booker T vs. Daniel Bryan (28-20)</option><option>#263. Booker T vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (20-40)</option><option>#264. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. "Cowboy" Bob Orton (48-6)</option><option>#265. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Christian (30-13)</option><option>#266. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Scott Hall (37-15)</option><option>#267. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Eddie Guerrero (31-32)</option><option>#268. Eddie Guerrero vs. Mr. Anderson (56-1)</option><option>#269. Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (41-11)</option><option>#270. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ted DiBiase (41-13)</option><option>#271. Eddie Guerrero vs. Triple H (40-32)</option><option>#272. Kane vs. Ryback (50-15)</option><option>#273. Kane vs. Sid (28-23)</option><option>#274. Kane vs. Big Show (41-13)</option><option>#275. Kane vs. Sting (12-46)</option><option>#276. Sting vs. Lex Luger (49-2)</option><option>#277. Sting vs. Rick Rude (30-28)</option><option>#278. Sting vs. Rob Van Dam (37-12)</option><option>#279. Sting vs. Hulk Hogan (29-30)</option><option>#280. Hulk Hogan vs. Andre "The Giant" (46-14)</option><option>#281. Hulk Hogan vs. Jeff Hardy (49-11)</option><option>#282. Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior (37-15)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option><option>Bret "Hitman" Hart</option><option>Chris Benoit</option><option>CM Punk</option><option>Jake "The Snake" Roberts</option><option>The Rock</option><option>"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig</option><option>Mick Foley</option><option>Eddie Guerrero</option><option>Hulk Hogan</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Best Wrestler Tournament History</option><option>ROUND 1</option><option>#1. Randy Savage vs. Taz (72-4)</option><option>#2. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin (42-42)</option><option>#3. Chris Jericho vs. Jake Roberts (52-15)</option><option>#4. Bret Hart vs. CM Punk (44-24)</option><option>#5. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (27-31)</option><option>#6. Mick Foley vs. Kurt Angle (18-41)</option><option>#7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels (13-50)</option><option>#8. Chris Benoit vs. Hulk Hogan (28-36)</option><option>ROUND 2</option><option>#9. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (41-18)</option><option>#10. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (14-22-26)</option><option>#11. Chris Jericho vs. Kurt Angle (30-27)</option><option>#12. Bret Hart vs. The Rock (32-34)</option><option>ROUND 3</option><option>#13. Randy Savage vs. The Rock (41-22)</option><option>#14. Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (20-43)</option><option>ROUND 4</option><option>#15. Randy Savage vs Shawn Michaels (25-48)</option></select>

Ruien
09-03-2017, 10:47 AM
Hmmmmmm.

Shisen Kopf
09-03-2017, 10:52 AM
Daniel Bryan is so overrated. HBK is an all time great. But what it really comes down to is the fact that HBK hunts animals and eats meat while Bryan is a Nancy boy vegan. Lame.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:12 AM
This match up is brought to you by Dale Newstead

Bad News Gertner
09-03-2017, 11:16 AM
HBK. The best big time performer in wrestling history.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 12:03 PM
HBK by a mile. Runs away with it in every category. And even if you give Bryan credit for who WWE tries to push nowadays, if there was no HBK, there would be no Daniel Bryan.

Rammsteinmad
09-03-2017, 12:18 PM
Sympathy voted Daniel Bryan coz I know he's gonna get destroyed in this round.

Lock Jaw
09-03-2017, 12:22 PM
Gotta give it to HBK just due to longevity. Only way for Daniel Bryan to overcome HBK would be to also come out of retirement and have a another decade of top notch quality feuds/matches.

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-03-2017, 12:38 PM
Voted for HBK but props to Daniel Bryan to have the career he has had without being a total douchenozzle.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 12:43 PM
Was thinking i shoulda gone w bret v d bry. But for him to be a true hall of famer he needs to surpass hbshizzle

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 12:44 PM
Voted hbk tho. Longevity at the top being the (super) kicker

Blue Demon
09-03-2017, 01:00 PM
As much as he screwed Bret....there's no denying Shawn's ability and being an all around talent.

Maluco
09-03-2017, 01:01 PM
HBK, not only the greatest in ring performer of all time, for me, but also one of the great storytellers. Matches like his comeback against HHH, the Flair Mania match and his own retirement match were so fueled with emotion. He knew how to tell a story and make it all seem so high stakes.

Just a personal opinion, but noone beats him as an overall performer for me. I have never came close to getting so much enjoyment out of one performer as I have out of HBK. Absolute legend.

Bad News Gertner
09-03-2017, 01:12 PM
As much as he screwed Bret....there's no denying Shawn's ability and being an all around talent.

Bret screwed Bret

Lock Jaw
09-03-2017, 01:14 PM
Gertner screwed Bret

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 02:04 PM
HBK HAD BETTER PSYCHOLOGY AND BETTER LOOK. ALSO MUCH BETTER ON THE MIC.

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 02:09 PM
I DO LOVE DB'S WRESTLEMANIA MOMENT THOUGH. HE'S DEFINITELY RESPONSIBLE FOR A GREAT PERFORMANCE. WORKED THROUGH HIS WEAKNESSES PRETTY WELL.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 02:18 PM
GOOD POINTS SWISS

Blue Demon
09-03-2017, 02:40 PM
Bret screwed Bret

:fu::fu::rant::rant::rant:

Destor
09-03-2017, 02:41 PM
Montreal was a work

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 02:53 PM
I don't think it was

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 03:01 PM
I don't think Bryan was a better wrestler than HBK, and he certainly wasn't better at promos, showmanship, etc. I probably would've picked HBK if he actually retired in 1998 over Bryan, I'd absolutely pick his 2002-2010 run over Bryan, put both of them together and it's gonna be very hard for anyone to beat.

Destor
09-03-2017, 03:04 PM
I don't think it was

It definitely was

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 03:05 PM
Proof?

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 03:05 PM
I mean I wouldn't mind if it was. Just seems silly to keep the charade up after all of these years.

#BROKEN Hasney
09-03-2017, 03:11 PM
If it was a work, I wish Bret had the same acting ability in his promos. He's still crying like a bitch to this day.

Moose Knuckle
09-03-2017, 03:14 PM
Maybe if Bryan had a longer career he might've been better. But HBK was one of the best to ever do it in every category.

Destor
09-03-2017, 03:26 PM
I mean I wouldn't mind if it was. Just seems silly to keep the charade up after all of these years.

Only way it makes any sense.

Bischoff didnt want Bret he wanted the title. They were going to Alundra Blaze it on Nitro. So Bret works this monster contract. Bischoffs cock is hard and they sign the deal. Bret loves vince. So Bret goes to him and tells him about the pay dat and together they create this scenerio to keep Bret from gettinf sued and to protect the WWF.

Ask yourself some key questions here: why did vince go to ring side? He could have called for the bell from the back. Why did he? To sell the fucking angle. To remove any doubt that the finish was a fuck job. Why? Hes a fucking commentator why would needlessly break kayfabe like that?

The Wrestling with Shadows doc also gave it away. Back in the day when you gigged afterward theyd take sand paper and reallt rough your face up so when you went out on the town it would sell the angle. After the match Bret and Vince have it out...but behind closed doors...how convinient. Bret decks vince. He really did, the diff is vince and bret werent fighting they were selling the angle. Next night vince appears on tv with a shiner...why would he? That makes no sense. Unless you wanted Bischoff to see.

Its the greatest work of all time, they'll never come clean on it. Its too good to spoil.

0% it was a shoot. Makes no sense to do it that way. Its all show.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 03:28 PM
circumstantial. But hey if that's what they did then it's a great way to deal w Bischoff.

Destor
09-03-2017, 03:31 PM
circumstantial. But hey if that's what they did then it's a great way to deal w Bischoff.

Everything that says its a shoot is as well, cept you have ignore all logic.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 03:36 PM
well I mean other than verification from many different sources.

I mean hey Vince and Bret can be working everyone, they're after all carnies. But it'd be one hell of a work.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 03:58 PM
I think if it was a work, Vince and Bret would have had to have been the only ones who knew.

And if it was a shoot, it should have been a work because I'm pretty sure Bret would have agreed to it so there's no point in not working it.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 04:01 PM
I actually agree

Destor
09-03-2017, 04:17 PM
There are def only 2-4 in the know.

Lock Jaw
09-03-2017, 04:19 PM
And one of those men is none other than DESTOR

Lock Jaw
09-03-2017, 04:20 PM
Impressive restraint to not have revealed anything even this many years after the fact

Maluco
09-03-2017, 04:23 PM
It would also explain why Hart's heart (lol) was never really in the stuff he did in WCW. Sure, they didn't use him very well, but he seemed a shadow of the guy WWF had. It's almost like he was happy to semi-retire on a massive guaranteed contract.

There is also the fact that even when telling "the truth", HBK's and Hart's accounts, as well as others, are never consistent. Probably kept a blur of misinformation on purpose.

Maluco
09-03-2017, 04:26 PM
There will probably be another DVD about it in 4-5 years time too! Almost like it's a better financial decision to keep it vague.

Gotta say, Destor makes some really good points about Vince that I never considered before.

Savio
09-03-2017, 04:38 PM
No ones heart was in WCW at the time.

If it was all a work Bret probably would have shown up at the Mania after he was inducted.

Destor
09-03-2017, 04:40 PM
I think if you're being objective you have to atleast believe that the scenerio the transpired is completely illogical.

"If you tell a big enough lie often enough eventually people will come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels

Destor
09-03-2017, 04:41 PM
If you think that montreal is too elaborate to be a work go look up the pilman incident specifically bischoffs long term plan

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 04:54 PM
Yeah but Bischoff worked himself into a shoot lol

Destor
09-03-2017, 04:56 PM
Did he? Pillmans long term plans are only known to him at this point. Maybe he was playing the middle or maybe he was selling it.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 04:58 PM
Legit fired Pillman and Pillman signed w/ the WWF

Destor
09-03-2017, 05:20 PM
That was the plan

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 05:21 PM
why?

Destor
09-03-2017, 05:22 PM
Bischoff tells the story that the idea was to have pilman go over there, climb their ranks and then return as a defector. And conquering hero. The whole thing was a work. The bookerman incident, the firing, going to new york. All of it, that was the design.

Lock Jaw
09-03-2017, 05:35 PM
How about that Daniel Bryan vs. HBK, though? What a match that would have been to see in real life!

Maluco
09-03-2017, 05:36 PM
But was Pillman not just agreeing to it to get his release and he had no intention of ever going back? That's what I always heard...

Destor
09-03-2017, 05:39 PM
But was Pillman not just agreeing to it to get his release and he had no intention of ever going back? That's what I always heard...

No one knows frankly.

Destor
09-03-2017, 05:39 PM
How about that Daniel Bryan vs. HBK, though? What a match that would have been to see in real life!

Its def one of the all time dream matches. Along with Danielson v Angle

Savio
09-03-2017, 05:42 PM
Oh and also I voted for hbk because he grabbed Adam Copelands cock.

Destor
09-03-2017, 05:47 PM
He did what to the who

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 06:15 PM
I THINK DESTOR IS RIGHT.

DAMN iNATOR
09-03-2017, 06:28 PM
Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK). Shawn wins by default in a laugher of a match-up.

Curtis
09-03-2017, 06:28 PM
"How to make Daniel Bryan lose".


Can not vote against HBK, he is pretty much the greatest of all time as a complete package. The only "bad" thing about HBK's whole career was his several year absence during the attitude era with his injury but he more then made up for it with his incredible matches after his return.


HBK may be a huge asshole backstage, but he quintessentially the complete package of a wrestler. Amazing on the mic, incredible in the ring, an icon, an amazing presence inside and outside the ring, and in some ways a pioneer for the industry with contributions still felt today.


Daniel Bryan is a great, but he is one of many (in terms of wrestling history altogether). HBK is a legend. If wrestling history was a textbook, HBK would have his own chapter, while a guy like Bryan might get a few paragraphs.


I don't think anybody can touch HBK at this point. I love Daniel Bryan and I think if he was given a longer career and perhaps other stars to work with, he could've reached much higher, but at this point, it's a no brainer to pick HBK over him.

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 06:30 PM
HBK IS GOING TO HAVE A NICE WINNING STREAK. IT WILL TAKE AN AUSTIN, HOGAN, OR ROCK TO TAKE HIM OUT.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 06:31 PM
Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK). Shawn wins by default in a laugher of a match-up.

There's so much wrong with these sentences...

DAMN iNATOR
09-03-2017, 06:34 PM
OK, so maybe DB wasn't one of the greatest of recent times, but that's the only concession I'll make.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 06:34 PM
No, that's not the problem. lol

DAMN iNATOR
09-03-2017, 06:37 PM
So then you admit there's actually nothing wrong with my post, despite your claim to the contrary...

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 06:37 PM
Bischoff tells the story that the idea was to have pilman go over there, climb their ranks and then return as a defector. And conquering hero. The whole thing was a work. The bookerman incident, the firing, going to new york. All of it, that was the design.

And then Vince found out and sent a hit man after him. As per the rumor. Idk if I believe all that.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 06:40 PM
So then you admit there's actually nothing wrong with my post, despite your claim to the contrary...

Do you know what "by default" means?

You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times" and then said HBK only wins because the competition is shit. lol

Destor
09-03-2017, 06:42 PM
Yeah i draw the line at that point. I meam Vince has had his hands in some shady stuff...but that would ne the apex

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 06:47 PM
lol "I know what I'll do. I'll kill him." seems like a bit of an over reaction to finding out about the plan. Releasing him would suffice.

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 06:52 PM
I wonder if he had Jimmy Snuka do it.

DAMN iNATOR
09-03-2017, 06:55 PM
Do you know what "by default" means?

You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times" and then said HBK only wins because the competition is shit. lol

I never said that about DB. I just said as great as he was, Shawn was a notch better. I certainly don't think anyone will ever mistake them as completely equal to one another career wise.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 06:57 PM
Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK).

You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times"...

I never said that about DB.

I also still don't think you know what "by default" means.

#ABTWasRight

FakeLaser
09-03-2017, 06:59 PM
Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Destor
09-03-2017, 07:19 PM
Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Hot match.

Michaels v Angle Wrestlemania or Flair v Michaels...dunno.

Destor
09-03-2017, 07:21 PM
Favorite danielson match was v colt cabana 2 out of 3 falls. To be fair the booking is why but the finish was just so damn smart...cant remember what card that was on

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 07:27 PM
Couldn't even choose a favorite HBK match. It changes based on my mood. First Taker WM match, Flair retirement, HHH @ SummerSlam '02 and the iron man match with Bret for sentimental reasons would be up there.

Also, I actually prefer his Vengeance match with Angle over the WrestleMania one.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 07:29 PM
Favorite Daniel Bryan match is either 2 out of 3 falls against Sheamus or the Royal Rumble match against Bray Wyatt.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 07:51 PM
Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Oh man but his Angle matches are just bonkers

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-03-2017, 07:53 PM
Hard to choose. But Mick and shawns style meshed. Mick has a unique style where most of his offence looks really cool but it is safe and Shawn can take his own bumps while Mick also risks life from limb.

Foley as Mankind in the original heel run was actually a tremendous athlete in that he had a lot of awkward mass to move but he was quick, fit, while understatedly massive

mike adamle
09-03-2017, 08:11 PM
Favorite danielson match was v colt cabana 2 out of 3 falls. To be fair the booking is why but the finish was just so damn smart...cant remember what card that was on

ROH Gut Check. The match Bryan hurts his shoulder in the first 7 minutes and wrestled 60.

Destor
09-03-2017, 08:41 PM
ROH Gut Check. The match Bryan hurts his shoulder in the first 7 minutes and wrestled 60.

Yessssssssssssss


So good

Shisen Kopf
09-03-2017, 09:15 PM
Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 09:16 PM
Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

TRUE STORY: BILLY ZANE CAME UP WITH THE YES CHANT.

Shisen Kopf
09-03-2017, 09:17 PM
Can't believe that hussy Rose left him to be with that Jack. Poor Billy Zane

Swiss Ultimate
09-03-2017, 09:21 PM
THAT DOOR WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR TWO, BUT SHE REALIZED HER MISTAKE AND LET JACK DROWN.

Shisen Kopf
09-03-2017, 09:26 PM
The bitch.

Destor
09-03-2017, 09:42 PM
Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

If it wasnt for beer and middle fingers steve austin wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for rocky and branding hogan wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for catchphrases and routine matches the rock wouldnt be considered as good as he is

Maluco
09-03-2017, 10:58 PM
Honestly, being completely serious, Daniel Bryan is a Punk, Benoit, Guerrero level talent. If you had a massive fed, he would be mid to upper mid card. In the reliable worker match. The guaranteed 4 star match. He caught fire for a brief period, but he is not on the same level as the very top guys in the history of the business. Whether that be the very elite performers (Angle, HBK, Flair) or the megastars (Hogan, Austin, Rock).

They are all several tiers above him. I understand people enjoying his run and his big moment, but he seems to be extremely overrated on here. Think of the moments and matches and stories those top guys have had. Another level completely.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:04 PM
If you look at the poll above i think he is accurately rated

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 11:08 PM
Maluco speaks the truth.

Bryan existed in a weird time when WWE's booking completely stopped having foresight. So they teased him winning the world title constantly, expecting to just move him out of the picture and be done with it. Once you do that to an underdog though, you've gotta have a payoff. They basically forced their own hand to give him a title run.

If not for that, he could have just kept being a fixture in the IC/US title picture and no one would have "rioted" over him not being a world champion. In an odd way, WWE's terrible booking is responsible for Daniel Bryan being kind of overrated.

Maluco
09-03-2017, 11:15 PM
If you look at the poll above i think he is accurately rated

Poll above doesn't tell the story of how highly rated he is on the forum. He is losing to Shawn Michaels after all.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:20 PM
I dunno...hes been the best worker on earth since 06 and as sokn as he had a platform to show he got over. Its what good workers do. Michaels is better though. More crosss over appeal.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 11:29 PM
Best worker from a technical wrestling standpoint, maybe.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:30 PM
Nah, he got over and drew everywhere he went, everytime the audience he was able to perform for grew so did his success. He was only limited by the promoters he had available to him. Hes not a worse worker just because the monopoly man wouldnt give him a job.

Shisen Kopf
09-03-2017, 11:31 PM
If it wasnt for beer and middle fingers steve austin wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for rocky and branding hogan wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for catchphrases and routine matches the rock wouldnt be considered as good as he is

No. You're comparing an overrated flash in the pan to legends.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:31 PM
Had there been more opportunities he'd have had a decade plus of headlining.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:32 PM
No. You're comparing an overrated flash in the pan to legends.

Not comparing him to those guys at all. Just pointing out how dumb of an argument that is

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 11:35 PM
Destor, you tend to waffle a lot on if we should include "what ifs" when talking about how great someone is. I remember you arguing when I'd pick a minor star over a major star because I thought if the minor star was in the other guy's situation booking-wise he would have been huge. Now you're arguing that exact point for Bryan.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:39 PM
Maybe you swayed me? MAYBE THIS IS YOUR FAULT

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:41 PM
I mean, im not arguing he's better than hbk based off what ifs. Hbk is better. Im just saying danielson was the best worker in the world for a lot longer than he was on a national stage. He just didnt get to show it to people until far too late.

And thats his legacy, too little too late. But he was still the gold standard in my eyes.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 11:41 PM
Maybe you swayed me? MAYBE THIS IS YOUR FAULT

It's quite possible. If so, we need to go re-visit that Undertaker "should he be given so much credit for a booked streak" conversation again. lol

Evil Vito
09-03-2017, 11:42 PM
God damn...2 of my top 5 favorites of all time.

This is a tough call for me. I'm gonna go with Bryan mostly because I had the benefit of enjoying his entire career as it was happening. I was invested in him from very early on and it made the eventual WM30 culmination feel all the more surreal to me.

Shawn had already had his first retirement before I started watching wrestling. While I obviously loved watching him in his second run, I never felt that I got to enjoy the same level of emotional investment as people who got to follow his run in the 90s. I can only imagine what it must've felt like for Shawn fans to actually have him come back 4 years after he was meant to be done.

Having said that, I'll go with Bryan knowing full well he's gonna lose anyway. Here's hoping Shawn can go the distance.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 11:43 PM
I mean, im not arguing he's better than hbk based off what ifs. Hbk is better. Im just saying danielson was the best worker in the world for a lot longer than he was on a national stage. He just didnt get to show it to people until far too late.

And thats his legacy, too little too late. But he was still the gold standard in my eyes.

When you say "worker" though...

Do you mean the complete package of what makes a great pro wrestler?

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:47 PM
When you say "worker" though...

Do you mean the complete package of what makes a great pro wrestler?

I think he had every tool to make money for any promoter that was willing to promote him. I think not signing him in his prime cost vince money; i think he's that good. And have for over a decade. He has an ear for a crowd that is so rare. He can call an audible so fast and adapt to the flux of a crowd in real time in ways few people can. And at a highhhhhh level and technique and athleticism. Frankly only Michaels benoit angle and Guerrero have ever been able to do it at that level, he's a very unique talent. And he didnt develope these skill in developmental.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:50 PM
In 2017 his lack of sex appeal hurts him more than it would have pre 95ish as well.

#1-norm-fan
09-03-2017, 11:54 PM
Well listen, I don't wanna fuck the guy but that's beside the point. I think he lacks the "larger than life" aura to make him a star. He's a likable underdog. Only so much you can do with that on the top of the card. In the midcard title picture though, he could have been holding down the division for years.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:57 PM
I think hes more like foley. He connects in a human every man way. Not a rockstar way, like rock or hogan.

Destor
09-03-2017, 11:57 PM
More like Dusty Rhodes than Flair. Theres money in both.

#1-norm-fan
09-04-2017, 12:04 AM
I think Foley and Dusty were both "larger than life" in their simpler ways.

Lock Jaw
09-04-2017, 12:05 AM
Gonna just put this out there, when Daniel Bryan first joined the WWE I didn't like him at all. Wasn't until his world title win and heel turn that I actually started to get into him. Before it was like "Ugh, what do people see in this guy?"

Destor
09-04-2017, 12:07 AM
Gonna just put this out there, when Daniel Bryan first joined the WWE I didn't like him at all. Wasn't until his world title win and heel turn that I actually started to get into him. Before it was like "Ugh, what do people see in this guy?"

But you came to see it or...?

Lock Jaw
09-04-2017, 12:07 AM
Also gonna say I hated/loathed HBK around the time of the original DX and his feud with Bret, because he just legit seemed like a douchebag/asshole. It was only when I was older that I found out that apparently he actually was at that time in real life too.

Lock Jaw
09-04-2017, 12:10 AM
But you came to see it or...?

Yeah, I did. Thought he was "gold" from the time of his loss at WM in 23 seconds through to when he beat John Cena at Summerslam. Afterwards things got a bit weird, and his promos got way worse due to leaning heavily on "YES", but he provided some of my favourite moments ever.

Lock Jaw
09-04-2017, 12:12 AM
Gonna just put this out there, when Daniel Bryan first joined the WWE I didn't like him at all. Wasn't until his world title win and heel turn that I actually started to get into him. Before it was like "Ugh, what do people see in this guy?"

I mean, I do remember him having some good matches with Dolph Ziggler or somebody before his world title win...... but I was just like "That was a good match, but I still don't really care about this guy at all, he is so dull and bland"

Ruien
09-04-2017, 01:44 AM
Went with Bryan because the whole Wrestlemania situation. For the crowd to be that involved and actually force the entire event to be changed will always be special to me. Special moments like this keep me watching wrestling. HB K was an insane talent but he never had that IT moment that I saw or can recall. Yes if I was bu8ilding a wrestling company I would take HB K first but that isn't the question.

Ruien
09-04-2017, 01:45 AM
Like LJ, I disliked Bryan soooooooo much when he came to the WWE.

Destor
09-04-2017, 01:56 AM
Hot thread btw

thecc
09-04-2017, 02:20 AM
Yessssssssssssss


So good I believe that was the same weekend he had that 2 out 3 falls match with Nigel as well. Danielson's run as champ might be one of my favorites.

Destor
09-04-2017, 02:47 AM
That period, well Gabes RoH run really, was just spectacular.

Mr. Nerfect
09-04-2017, 03:29 AM
Shawn Michaels is probably the greatest in-ring performer since the WWF/E went national. Daniel Bryan was arguably the best performer since Shawn Michaels. HBK could be trumped on the business end, but Bryan isn't the guy to bring that fight.

mike adamle
09-04-2017, 08:59 AM
I believe that was the same weekend he had that 2 out 3 falls match with Nigel as well. Danielson's run as champ might be one of my favorites.

Yep. Defended the belt against Nigel at Epic Encounter II in a 2 out of 3 falls match that went an hour. Then had another hour long 2 out of 3 falls at Gut Check the next night against Colt Cabana where he injured his shoulder 6 minutes into the match.... He also had an hour long draw with Samoa Joe 2 weeks before that. His next title defense after his injury was of course his classic against KENTA at Glory By Honor V Night 2.

mike adamle
09-04-2017, 09:33 AM
Actually that match with Nigel was a rematch from the week before, which was the critically acclaimed match where Bryan unified the ROH World and Pure titles at Unified. That match is most remembered for Bryan grabbing both of Nigel's arms and slamming him repeatedly head first into the ring post, busting him open the hard way.

Blonde Moment
09-04-2017, 10:06 AM
Hbk, even with all the backstage bullshit he helped pave for smaller wrestlers

KIRA
09-04-2017, 02:04 PM
Damnit damnit damnit! HBK. Its pretty much undeniable that he is in a league all his own.

And if you weren't around for his first run its fine because it pales in comparison to his second run( IMO)

I still think Bryans run is a phenomenon don't know that anybody else couldve pulled that off. but HBK owns him for his sheer library.

Theo Dious
09-04-2017, 02:15 PM
Shawn Michaels is cuter, sexier, and has the looks that drives the girls wilder.

Seriously though, even if Michael's isn't essentially better than Bryan in every way, he's definitely more polished and accomplished. If Bryan makes it back to the ring he may well become better some day, but not just yet.

Moose Knuckle
09-04-2017, 02:17 PM
Yep. Defended the belt against Nigel at Epic Encounter II in a 2 out of 3 falls match that went an hour. Then had another hour long 2 out of 3 falls at Gut Check the next night against Colt Cabana where he injured his shoulder 6 minutes into the match.... He also had an hour long draw with Samoa Joe 2 weeks before that. His next title defense after his injury was of course his classic against KENTA at Glory By Honor V Night 2.

Bryan had such a great ROH title reign. Awesome matches with everyone.

A classic with James Gibson
Two great matches with Austin Aries
One of Steve Corino's greatest
a trilogy of classics against Roderick Strong, while he was still pretty new
A great match with Chris Sabin
A great match with Christopher Daniels
An unexpectedly great match with Rocky Romero
A Great match with Naomichi Marufuji
A classic with Chris Hero in Hero's first match with the company to put him on the map
A great match with AJ Styles
One of Xavier's greatest matches ever
One of Jimmy Rave's greatest matches ever which was a classic
A great match with Alex Shelley
A classic that pulled Lance Storm out of retirement
A classic with Delirious, and 2 great matches with him as well
A great match with Jimmy Yang, although I'd probably say this was his worst defense, most of that goes to Yang though as he phoned it in.
4 classics against Nigel McGuinness including an hour draw
2 classics including one of the greatest title changes in ROH history with Homicide
A banger of a 3 way elimination match with BJ Whitmer and Jimmy Jacobs in the middle of their feud
2 classics with Colt Cabana including an hour draw
A great match with Sonjay Dutt
2 great matches with Samoa Joe including An hour long classic and a Steel Cage match with a very creative finish
An all time classic with KENTA

Crazy how much greatness happened in 2005-2006 ROH.

Swiss Ultimate
09-04-2017, 03:25 PM
DANIEL BRYAN WAS A GREAT WRESTLER. JUST NOT ONE OF THE GREATEST WRESTLERS.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2017, 05:24 PM
DANIEL BRYAN WAS A GREAT WRESTLER. JUST NOT ONE OF THE GREATEST WRESTLERS.

BELL TO BELL HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BUT AS THE COMPLETE PACKAGE YOU ARE 1 HUNDRED PER CENT CORRECT.

Destor
09-04-2017, 05:28 PM
I THINK THE ONLY THING HE LACKED WAS LONGEVITY

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-04-2017, 05:33 PM
WELL SAID, DESY

A.J.K
09-04-2017, 05:45 PM
Went with HBK. He always had people on the edge of their seats no matter who he was against. That near hour classic with cena back in 2007 on RAW in the U.K, the Ladder Matches with Razor, his feuds with HHH, Y2J, Bret, Mankind , Taker and more.

Bryan is good but HBK is and always will be top 10.

SlickyTrickyDamon
09-04-2017, 06:06 PM
I think as the Grand Champion HBK should be excluded and this round expunged.

Curtis
09-05-2017, 12:32 PM
Shawn Michaels is cuter, sexier, and has the looks that drives the girls wilder.

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I don't know about that, Daniel Bryan has seemed to be very successful with the ladies in the WWE. Of course no one can beat CM Punk who has slept with every attractive female in the WWE it seems.

Black Widow
09-05-2017, 04:20 PM
This is a landslide as it should be.

Emperor Smeat
09-05-2017, 04:22 PM
HBK.

Give Bryan the nod in terms of in-ring skills but felt HBK edges him out in more areas.

Personally would put HBK at the tier below Mt Rushmore megastars and Bryan somewhere between HBK's tier and the one below it. Byran having a really short time on top and HBK having that great 2nd run is one big reason why.

TSI
09-05-2017, 06:02 PM
I like Bryan a lot, but HBK is at least in the conversation for the GOAT, and is better than Bryan in every aspect of the business

Swiss Ultimate
09-05-2017, 08:06 PM
BELL TO BELL HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BUT AS THE COMPLETE PACKAGE YOU ARE 1 HUNDRED PER CENT CORRECT.

I THINK THE ONLY THING HE LACKED WAS LONGEVITY

HE WAS ALSO PRETTY SHORT.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-05-2017, 09:56 PM
WAS MICHAELS MUCH TALLER THAN HIM?

#1-norm-fan
09-05-2017, 10:31 PM
MICHAELS WAS TALLER BUT ALSO LESS SCRAWNY LOOKING.

#1-norm-fan
09-05-2017, 10:36 PM
HERE THEY ARE DOING SQUATS TOGETHER

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzgvPsTWQAAKxXD.jpg

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-05-2017, 10:40 PM
LOVE MICHAEL'S SHORT SHORTS

Big Vic
09-06-2017, 10:25 AM
Voted for HBK because I don't know who "Dnaielson" is

Destor
09-06-2017, 10:38 AM
he's your mum

thecc
09-06-2017, 08:33 PM
That period, well Gabes RoH run really, was just spectacular.I remember that roh vs czw feud being one of the hottest things. It's a shame czw's ineptitude kept them from keeping any momentum.

Destor
09-06-2017, 08:48 PM
It was def hot though. About the only time i gave shit about anything BJ Whitmer ever did

thecc
09-07-2017, 12:06 AM
There was the Jimmy Jacobs fued. That was mostly cuz of Jimmy being such a great talker. Also Lacey being Lacey.

Destor
09-07-2017, 03:06 PM
I did this poll during the previous BW and Danielson actually lost by a smaller margin despite only having done his ROH run at the time.

Big Vic
09-07-2017, 03:13 PM
Probably because people were confused on who to vote for due to the misspelling of his name.

I demand a re-vote!

Destor
09-07-2017, 03:16 PM
Well make your own spin off. Call it SUPERIOR RASSLER

Lock Jaw
09-07-2017, 05:21 PM
Prob because we had a lot of ROH knobslobbers here back then.