SMACKDOWN & 205 Live 07/11/17 SPOILERS

[#BROKEN Hasney]

AND NEWWWWWWWWWW WWE CHAMPION AJ STYLES

So, you think Jinder is going to be popped or working with an injury?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh. also Kofi beat Sami for some fucking reason, Becky beat Ellsworth in an actual match then Carmella turned on Ellsworth, Sin Cara wasn't injured that bad despite how it looked and will face Baron next wee for the US belt.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Orton beat Rusev because of course he fucking did.

[Droford]

Jinder has a shoulder injury. That was known a month ago. Why they waited til now is beyond me. They could have just had Brock destroy him and kayfabe that as the excuse. Now they have another ppv main event changed the week before the event with little build to it aside from "hey Lesnar vs Styles might be cool"

[slik]

This is the greatest day in the history of WWE in 2017 so far.

[Droford]

I was actually liking Jinder. By not following through with Brock vs Jinder they've basically killed off a main event and wasted the last 5+ months.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I was actually liking Jinder. By not following through with Brock vs Jinder they've basically killed off a main event and wasted the last 5+ months.

Not really, there's actually a match I'm interested in on the event now so I'll re-sub. Congrats on pulling the handbrake on something not working for once, WWE.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Last minute of the match

https://streamable.com/pkyeh

[slik]

AJ vs Brock is 10x more interesting to me than Jinder vs anyone tbh.

[Evil Vito]

They better have put the belt on AJ after robbing us of Shield/Usos last night.

[erickman]

AJ vs Brock is 10x more interesting to me than Jinder vs anyone tbh.

wonder if brock would want to put aj over

[#BROKEN Hasney]

wonder if brock would want to put aj over

Brock doesn't care as long as he's paid. It's all on WWE.

I bet there's shenanigans.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh shit, I was just reminded of that India tour poster for December that listed Jinder as a two time champion.

They might just be doing this to protect Jinder from Brock.

[owenbrown]

FULL SPOILERS FROM PWINSIDER:

COMPLETE WWE SMACKDOWN LIVE SPOILERS FROM MANCHESTER
By Alec Davies on 2017-11-07 14:27:00
DARK MATCH:

Breezango defeats the Colons,

SMACKDOWN:

Smackdown opens up with a video feature on AJ Styles vs. Jinder Mahal.

Shane McMahon comes out. He thanks everyone for watching the A show and promises Daniel Bryan will return next week. McMahon says Smackdown is ready for any retaliation. He brings out New Day, who say they didn't intend to cause the Shield to lose the Raw Tag titles but that's what happens when you are under siege. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn come out and knock Shane, saying Raw will beat them because of him. Shane tells them they have no loyalty and makes a match, Zayn vs. Kofi Kingston for right now....

*Kofi Kingston pinned Sami Zayn Owens tried to get involved but was run off by New Day.

*Renee Young interviewed Jinder Mahal. He promises to beat AJ tonight and then will take out Brock at the PPV.

*They air a Bludgeon brothers vignette.

*Randy Orton pinned Rusev with an RKO Out OF NOWHERE! He joined Team Smackdown officially.

*James Ellsworth is looking for Carmella but instead Becky Lynch is there. He knocks her saying if Raw was there, she's hide behind him because they are in Manchester, not Womanchester. Lynch tells him he made a ballsy statement, but he doesn't have any.

*James Ellsworth vs. Becky. All the other Smackdown female stars are around ringside. Ellsworth tries to escape but is tossed back in by Charlotte. He begs off and tries to kiss Becky's hand but she makes him tap out to the Disarmher. Carmella is so disgusted after that she superkicks him. She walks away alone.

*They ran a promo announcing The Shield will return to Raw Monday.

*Carmella spoke to Shane McMahon backstage when Natalya entered the room. She offered to face Alexa and work the Women's Elimination Tag Match. Shane announced Natalya vs. Charlotte for next week's Smackdown.

*Chad Gable and Shelton Benjamin defeated The Usos by countount. They played up a potential injury to Jey.

*They announced New Day vs. Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn, Sin Cara vs. Baron Corbin and Natalya vs. Charlotte.

*AJ Styles pinned Jinder Mahal to capture the WWE championship. :D:D:D:D:D

[#BROKEN Hasney]

205 live

The show started with Enzo Amore presenting ‘The Zo Show’ with six UK wrestlers. He introduced each one, it ended with Tyler Bate knocking him out of the ring. Tyler Bate vs Enzo Amore was set for later in the show.

1. Kalisto beat Jack Gallagher.

2. Cedric Alexander and Mark Andrews beat James Drake and Joseph Conners.

3. Enzo beat Tyler Bate

[Emperor Smeat]

Jinder has a shoulder injury. That was known a month ago. Why they waited til now is beyond me. They could have just had Brock destroy him and kayfabe that as the excuse. Now they have another ppv main event changed the week before the event with little build to it aside from "hey Lesnar vs Styles might be cool"

Either that or have him drop the title earlier and go in a different route instead for a potential Brock match.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

ENZO PINNED TYLER BATE CLEAN IN THE MIDDLE

lmao. This company.

[Emperor Smeat]

ENZO PINNED TYLER BATE CLEAN IN THE MIDDLE

lmao. This company.

Didn't think I'd actually find a use for this gif this quickly after finding it earlier in the day. Don't even want to know what was the reasoning of hurting the star value of one of their 2 best UK guys just for Enzo especially as a clean loss.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/t/5a00fa048165f56ac49cdd13/1510013491137/Vince+McMahon+is+stunned.gif

[ClockShot]

Wow. Styles wins back the belt. I'll stay up for this.

But I am curious to the last minute switch unless Vince/Creative finally realized that Jinder ran his course longer than he should have AND Jinder vs. Brock wouldn't draw.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s a great way to kill two hours before catching <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NatureBoy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NatureBoy</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/espn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@espn</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReasonsToWatchSmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ReasonsToWatchSmackDown</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/928055705348837378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[KIRA]

NOOOOOO our stone 6 pack savior is hurt

[Lock Jaw]

Very hyped for Becky Lynch vs. James Ellsworth..... wish they weren't giving it away on a random Smackdown.....

[rez]

Sami dances like a fool

[DAMN iNATOR]

Shouldn't this thread be called "SMACKDOWN & 205 Pre-Taped 11/07/17 SPOILERS"?

[ClockShot]

Wanna check this Damnation show out. But I have zero idea what it's about.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Very hyped for Becky Lynch vs. James Ellsworth..... wish they weren't giving it away on a random Smackdown.....

They're building to Ellsworth defeating Natalya for the SD! Women's Championship, only for Carmella to cash in immediately thereafter and win via James lying down for her to get the easy 3. :shifty:

[rez]

Shouldn't this thread be called "SMACKDOWN & 205 Pre-Taped 11/07/17 SPOILERS"?

Yeah, rest of the world. Ya'll need to start formatting your shit to our liking :rant:

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at New Day celebrating a bit on the outside while Owens beat up Kofi after the match.

[Emperor Smeat]

That might have been Jinder's best promo as champion which isn't saying much considering how terrible his previous promos usually were.

[Lock Jaw]

HARPERLINA AND ROWANLINA COMING SOON

[Lock Jaw]

Happy Rusev Day, guys

(But probably not for long)

[Lock Jaw]

What a very unmerry Rusev Day

[DAMN iNATOR]

UGH @ boring ass Orton qualifying...:nono:

[Lock Jaw]

Orton already qualified..... was already on the team

[Lock Jaw]

:heart: Becky Lynch

[DAMN iNATOR]

Orton already qualified..... was already on the team

At any rate, hope he's the first eliminated. Can't stand Rest-hold Randy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's over. It's finally fucking over. I am weeping tears of joy.

[Emperor Smeat]

"Becky's Going to Kill You" chants don't seem very PG

[RP]

I want to suck runny diarrhea from Becky Lynches butt with a straw.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brock wouldn't want to sell for Jinder Mahal. They've also never done a WWE Title change in the UK. Jinder might get the belt back for or in India, but for now it is actually fucking over.

[DAMN iNATOR]

OK, we get it, Manchester, you love that song.

[Mr. Nerfect]

At any rate, hope he's the first eliminated. Can't stand Rest-hold Randy.

That honor is going to Finn Balor.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if Ellsworth heavily taped his package down to avoid getting a visible boner while rassling Becky Lynch

[Mr. Nerfect]

THE BEST WRESTLER ON THE PLANET IS THE WWE CHAMPION! Doesn't that feel like a good truth to know? Doesn't it just feel right?

[Emperor Smeat]

Ellsworth-Becky ended being a lot better than I was expecting.

[Lock Jaw]

It lived up to the hype

[Emperor Smeat]

Tag title match was pretty meh.

Also ouch at the Jey Uso's knee.

[GD]

Luke Harper :love:

[Rebecca Reigns]

Wow I bet owenbrown cries at the end of tonight's episode since he's Hindu religion.

[GD]

Jinder Mahal is Sikh.

[Rebecca Reigns]

I am sikh of watching him wrestle.

[rez]

Guru Reigns

[Anthony Hopkins]

I was once offered the role of a Great Sikh but had to turn it down to do Silence of the Lambs. A rather good call, I must say.

[rez]

really not looking forward to AJ/Brock. They're going to fuck it up so bad

[Lock Jaw]

Charlotte most likely winning the title next week..... but I wonder if they give Sin Cara the title too..... so we don't get that heel vs heel match either.......

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah

Uh

Uh

Uh

[the omen]

Time is running out for the WWE Champion.
Trust me, I should know.

[Rebecca Reigns]

I have my naughty panties on.

[Lock Jaw]

All the socks showing up for this Smackdown

[Lock Jaw]

Mahal looks like a million bucks

Too bad he is terrible every other way

[Savio]

That might have been Jinder's best promo as champion which isn't saying much considering how terrible his previous promos usually were.

Was it actually a good promo?

[Big Vic]

All the socks showing up for this Smackdown

We are really excited for the match!

[Emperor Smeat]

Was it actually a good promo?

It actually was. Pretty much compared Lesnar and Styles to a meal saying Styles is not a threat and sees him no more than as an appetizer to the entree of Lesnar for his feast of opponents.

Also helped it was a really short promo and didn't drag on like most of his other ones as champion.

[rez]

AJ can make any wrestler look good..probably not Brock though

[Emperor Smeat]

Styles sells the Khallas the best out of everyone Jinder has done the move to.

[Lock Jaw]

Prob the best Jinder Mahal match I have seen

"Thank goodness" at WWE realizing that no one wanted to see Brock Lesnar vs. Jinder Mahal

[Savio]

AJ Styles is probably the best treated non-home grown talent..... 2nd was probably Goldberg

[RP]

I wonder if Brock said " fuck this, i'm not wrestling Jinder fucking Mahal ".

[Savio]

"Thank goodness" at WWE realizing that no one wanted to see Brock Lesnar vs. Jinder Mahal

Jinder will win the rematch next week.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It actually was. Pretty much compared Lesnar and Styles to a meal saying Styles is not a threat and sees him no more than as an appetizer to the entree of Lesnar for his feast of opponents.

Also helped it was a really short promo and didn't drag on like most of his other ones as champion.

the content I guess was okay. But the delivery sounded like he didn't mean what he was saying.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's because Jinder isn't very good.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, promos are not supposed to bury people.

[Simple Fan]

Wow did expect that. Hopefully it stays like this and we get AJ vs Brock.

[Mr. Nerfect]

My head was telling me they'd do the title change, but my gut was that I was overthinking it (if that makes sense). I mean, it's hard to call just what they're going to do next. But ever since it became very apparent that Mahal was not helping in India, it didn't really make sense to send him in as the champion. But they have known this for the longest time and never did anything about it. I suppose the only people he really beat were Orton and Nakamura.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

My head was telling me they'd do the title change, but my gut was that I was overthinking it (if that makes sense). I mean, it's hard to call just what they're going to do next. But ever since it became very apparent that Mahal was not helping in India, it didn't really make sense to send him in as the champion. But they have known this for the longest time and never did anything about it. I suppose the only people he really beat were Orton and Nakamura.

There was that poster for the India tour advertising Mahal as a 2 time WWE Champion though. Might just be protecting him from Brock then win it back.

I mean, I'd laugh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There was that poster for the India tour advertising Mahal as a 2 time WWE Champion though. Might just be protecting him from Brock then win it back.

I mean, I'd laugh.

Yeah, there was, but I'm not sure how much stock I'd place in it. I mean, since when has the WWE been interested in putting talent over when they go home? Besides, the India shows aren't sold out yet. It may be that they don't want the image of the guy who has been presented as local walking into a half-empty arena as champion. If he doesn't have the belt then they at least get to say that it didn't sell out because Jinder lost. :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jinder Mahal has been wrestling for 15 fucking years. Even Mark Henry was good after that long.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I have to say Noid. I watched Jinder v AJ and Jinder was brutal. So clunky. Maybe cuz of his injury but damn. He can barely move.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's also been very clunky. The injury probably doesn't help matters, but he's always had this very staggered way of getting around the ring. He looks amazing, but it's less scary when you don't believe he's got any acumen behind it.

[Sepholio]

Jinders a big toughy.

[hb2k]

Thank fuck that's over. Let's hope it stays this way for a while and Jinder chases the US Title.

[Destor]

But I thought Metlzer said Jinder vs Cena was the mania match?

[Destor]

;)

[Evil Vito]

Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,,

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Cena is the last member of team SD because he has NO LOYALTY.

[Droford]

I guess he can't be the referee then

[Droford]

John Cena vs Braun Stroman

Irresistible force vs Immovable Object II

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to my friend John Cena who qualified for the survivor series fair and square...... go get them TIGER</p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/928279470175375362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Orton is now the youngest person on Team SD

He's 37

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Juicy Jinder is saying he's not injured or violated wellness.

Seems really fucking weird to randomly announce a tirle match with less than a week of build and have it happen on a taped international episode.

[erickman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to my friend John Cena who qualified for the survivor series fair and square...... go get them TIGER</p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/928279470175375362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
wondered what happened to rusev he needs to show up and take cena out

[Big Vic]

Juicy Jinder is saying he's not injured or violated wellness.

Seems really freeeking weird to randomly announce a tirle match with less than a week of build and have it happen on a taped international episode.
All about that <s>Indian</s> European market

[Cool King]

The title change would have been so much better if the WWE didn't plaster spoilers all over the internet.

They spoiled their own main event by saying "Breaking news: New champion crowned at WWE SmackDown Live in U.K. (CAUTION: SPOILER)", so you're watching SmackDown and when the WWE Championship match begins and you've yet to see a title change, you just know what the outcome of that match is going to be.

[Cool King]

Also, I get the feeling that Mahal will regain the title after Survivor Series and that the title change was done to boost ticket sales or network subscriptions for Survivor Series by offering Lesnar vs Styles instead of Lesnar vs Mahal.

[XL]

Tbf, is it a bad story to have Styles “hang with” Brock for a while before losing, and then Jinder “picking the bones” of a beaten up AJ afterwards?

I mean, obviously it’s “bad” if it results in Jinder regaining the title, but it sits pretty well with a Chicken shit heels tactics.

[Heyman]

wonder if brock would want to put aj over

Won't happen nor should it happen.

The only guy that should beat Brock at this point is Roman Reigns at Mania.

If Roman Reigns is your 'guy' moving forward, then the WWE needs to keep Brock as strong as possible so that the job is more meaningful.

[Sepholio]

with all these sudden changes in mind WWE is having maybe they'll finally decide to quit shoving Roman Reigns down our throats against our will.

[#1-norm-fan]

So if John Cena ends up being the sole survivor at Survivor Series, does that mean the winner of the battle for supremacy between Raw and Smackdown is "Free Agency"?

[Emperor Smeat]

Smackdown managed to gain back all the viewers lost from last week's massive drop.

Last night’s SmackDown Live drew 2,603,000 viewers, up big from last week’s 2,119,000 viewers.

The Ric Flair “30 for 30” documentary on ESPN at 10 PM ET drew 1,831,000 viewers.

SmackDown was #3 on cable for the night in the 18-49 demographic, behind the Ric Flair documentary and American Horror Story on FX.

This time last year, the November 8, 2016 episode of SmackDown Live drew 1,921,000 viewers.


Also something happened with Owens and Sami that both got sent home from the rest of the European tour.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, I get the feeling that Mahal will regain the title after Survivor Series and that the title change was done to boost ticket sales or network subscriptions for Survivor Series by offering Lesnar vs Styles instead of Lesnar vs Mahal.

If they're trying to boost ticket sales and subscriptions, why would they go back to what had them down in the first place? And what the recent financials stated was that good main events might get watched more on the Network, but they aren't going to get people to subscribe.

They might go back to Jinder after Survivor Series, because this company is stubborn and will do whatever the hell they like, but I just can't see that being the reason. I think it's more likely they wanted to do something to pop a UK show so that they have something to show ITV and say "See? See? We're cool."

The Jinder thing also wasn't working. I can't remember where I've posted this and where I haven't, haha. But yeah, Jinder was not attracting Indian fans, and the India shows still haven't sold out (at least the WWE website still lets you buy tickets for almost every section). It could just be that Vince doesn't want to look like a fool when photos emerge of things like this:

https://blogs-images.forbes.com/alfredkonuwa/files/2017/09/SDLIVE-1200x900.jpg?width=960

Especially after they go to India with an Indian WWE Champion.

Triple H was also bizarrely euphemistic when talking about Jinder recently. It wasn't an all hands on deck "Jinder is the man to carry the brand forward" statement. He said things like "he wasn't successful before," "you can criticize him, but he's earned my personal respect," and "the jury is still out." That's been one of the weirdest things to come from this, because that just doesn't sound like a way you talk about your champion.

My gut tells me that they know this is a failed experiment. In India and domestically. It's possible that the Singh Brothers got beat up by him after the match because they're goons like Sakamoto was to Tensai, but something about it does feel like a wrap-up on the project.

If the ratings also hold, I don't see why they would go back to Mahal. 500,000 more people watching. That's a 25% increase for a taped show. Sure, the last one was Halloween and was against things people would rather watch (funny how they use "there's more interesting stuff" as an excuse), but given how scant the WWE audience is compared to what it used to be, the difference between 2 million and 2.5 million is a lot more dramatic.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also something happened with Owens and Sami that both got sent home from the rest of the European tour.

They don't normally work people like this, but my gut tells me that this is to make them appear more like outsiders. Neither seems like a party animal and I can't see anyone really getting upset about that promo. Wouldn't surprise me if this is some outside the box thinking by them to play on their ROH rep since the European tour is mostly over now, and Owens might still have personal stuff to deal with.

That being said, if it does turn out to be true, well, they managed to be good kids for a year or two there.

[Anybody Thrilla]

This was a really, really good Smackdown. The first Jinder Mahal match I've enjoyed thoroughly. God bless you, AJ Styles.

[Lock Jaw]

Same with enjoying the match...... maybe going into it knowing that Styles was gonna win helped me like it too