Heyman
05-29-2004, 03:51 PM
DISCUSSION - Some Thoughts on HHH, Y2J, Cena, Guerrero, Taker, Maven, Lesnar, etc.
First things first:
-I don't mind if Triple H has a long world title run (starting at Summerslam), if he DROPS the World title to Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania 21. Seriously.....Jericho, despite being stuck in mid-card HELL on Raw, is the top face. Jericho can easily get his popularity back from 2000 (if he hasn't already). If Triple H gets the title back from Benoit, and then proceeds to have a lengthy title reign (getting victories over Edge, Benjamin, etc. along the way), it doesn't matter to me.......as long as Chris Jericho 'goes over' at Wrestlemania....in what would be a Wrestlemania re-match between the two. AFter Wrestlemania, Chris Jericho could then plants the seeds for his main-event feud with Randy Orton (which could take place at Summerslam of NEXT year).
Now some Thoughts on Smackdown:
-What's with John Cena's whole "I'm a white Will Smith" gimmick? Did anyone else besides me think that he looked like a GIGANTIC tool on Smackdown the other night? John Cena should act more serious. If he continues the way he's been going, I think the fans will get bored of him....and worse, may start to 'boo' him. Cena needs to go back to being the mean and serious face.....that kicks mean rhymes. No more "White boy Will Smith" bullsh</>it.
-One guy who should be LESS serious however, is Eddie Guerrero. A huge part of what made Eddie Guerrero popular, was his whole "lie, cheat, and STEAL" gimmick. The fans love Eddie Guerrero when he is more 'laid back' and 'fun-loving'. I hope the WWE doesn't continue this whole "let's feel sorry for Eddie" type thing. I mean - the fans will still CHEER Guerrero, but they'd cheer MUCH louder for Eddie if he went back to his old ways.
One thing I'd like to see? Have Eddie Guerrero 'make-up' with Chavo Guerrero and Chavo Classic. Have them become a popular face faction. Perhaps even adding a guy like Konnan or Rey Mysterio would be ideal. A 4 man Latino stable........What a great way to tap into the Latino market! Also - I think Eddie's "fun-loving" personality would shine again if he was re-aligned with Chavo, etc. Chavo, as CW champ, would also be more over due to association with Eddie.
In fact - why not have Rey Mysterio be the CW champ, the two Chavo's be the tag champs, and Eddie be World Champ?
Perhaps this "Los Guerrero's" stable could be like the present day Hart Foundation?
-I'd like to see Smackdown utilize Undertaker and Mordecai a little bit more. I think the inevitable Taker/Mordecai feud will be the 'main drawing card' of Smackdown in the not-so-distant future.
Speaking of 'futures', does anyone else like the idea of there being a "new" Undertaker once Mark Callaway calls it quits? Maybe a guy like Matt Morgan can become the 'new' Undertaker. I have my likes and dislikes about this idea. I like it because it allows for the WWE to keep an AWESOME gimmick immortal. Perhaps the whole "Undertaker" thing can be like a 'lineage' of sorts (kind of like the movie "Zorro" where we saw a new 'Zorro" emerge when the original one got too old). Having this idea also allows for a DESERVING big man to 'get over' right away.
Disadvantage - The fans may not like it. We saw how well 'fake Diesel' went over.
-I still contend that Smackdown could use Scott Steiner. He's well-known, and he can put over some up-and-comers. Smackdown needs veterans right now! What about a guy like Goldust? Goldust can put over some new talent if he got re-hired. How about a feud with former tag partner Booker T?
-I was thinking about Maven. Notice how he got ZERO crowd reaction when he entered the Battle Royale? I was thinking about the following: Have him move to Smackdown, and push him in a similar way to "Rocky Maivia". I was thinking that Smackdown could shove Maven down the throats of the fans (without trying to IMPLY that the fans should boo him), until the fans boo the CRAP out of him! (much to the "dismay" of Cole, Tazz, etc.). At THIS point, Maven (much like Rocky Maivia) can start openly acting heelish.
Maybe it's just me, but I think Maven would play a good "Rocky Maivia" type face.....er heel. :shifty: I can see it now.....with the "Maven sucks!" and "Die Maven Die" chants. ;)
Now that "Matt" from Tough Enough III is about to debut, I am also hoping that Jonah gets signed as well. That is who I picked to win Tough Enough III. Jonah wasn't the best wrestler there, but he had "the look" and the charisma. He also had the size. Hopefully - the WWE signs (signed?) him.
And lastly - I still have hopes the Brock Lesnar comes back to the WWE. If he does come back, I'd push him as a face (hopefully by this time, a guy like Cena or RVD will have turned heel). I'd push Lesnar as a face for a few reasons.
1) Lesnar wouldn't have to JOB clean. Lesnar's whole gimmick is about being 'dominating'. It looks bad for his gimmick when he loses cleanly (if that makes sense). Heels not named Triple H, usually have to lose cleanly. As a face, Lesnar can lose by outside interference, getting screwed, etc. I'd have him basically be the "Steve Austin of 2004, etc."
2) I'm assuming that Lesnar would get a huge pop upon returning (I could be wrong however.......perhaps the fans will not like him for 'selling out' to the NFL). If he receives a huge pop however, the WWE could really capitalize on that.
First things first:
-I don't mind if Triple H has a long world title run (starting at Summerslam), if he DROPS the World title to Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania 21. Seriously.....Jericho, despite being stuck in mid-card HELL on Raw, is the top face. Jericho can easily get his popularity back from 2000 (if he hasn't already). If Triple H gets the title back from Benoit, and then proceeds to have a lengthy title reign (getting victories over Edge, Benjamin, etc. along the way), it doesn't matter to me.......as long as Chris Jericho 'goes over' at Wrestlemania....in what would be a Wrestlemania re-match between the two. AFter Wrestlemania, Chris Jericho could then plants the seeds for his main-event feud with Randy Orton (which could take place at Summerslam of NEXT year).
Now some Thoughts on Smackdown:
-What's with John Cena's whole "I'm a white Will Smith" gimmick? Did anyone else besides me think that he looked like a GIGANTIC tool on Smackdown the other night? John Cena should act more serious. If he continues the way he's been going, I think the fans will get bored of him....and worse, may start to 'boo' him. Cena needs to go back to being the mean and serious face.....that kicks mean rhymes. No more "White boy Will Smith" bullsh</>it.
-One guy who should be LESS serious however, is Eddie Guerrero. A huge part of what made Eddie Guerrero popular, was his whole "lie, cheat, and STEAL" gimmick. The fans love Eddie Guerrero when he is more 'laid back' and 'fun-loving'. I hope the WWE doesn't continue this whole "let's feel sorry for Eddie" type thing. I mean - the fans will still CHEER Guerrero, but they'd cheer MUCH louder for Eddie if he went back to his old ways.
One thing I'd like to see? Have Eddie Guerrero 'make-up' with Chavo Guerrero and Chavo Classic. Have them become a popular face faction. Perhaps even adding a guy like Konnan or Rey Mysterio would be ideal. A 4 man Latino stable........What a great way to tap into the Latino market! Also - I think Eddie's "fun-loving" personality would shine again if he was re-aligned with Chavo, etc. Chavo, as CW champ, would also be more over due to association with Eddie.
In fact - why not have Rey Mysterio be the CW champ, the two Chavo's be the tag champs, and Eddie be World Champ?
Perhaps this "Los Guerrero's" stable could be like the present day Hart Foundation?
-I'd like to see Smackdown utilize Undertaker and Mordecai a little bit more. I think the inevitable Taker/Mordecai feud will be the 'main drawing card' of Smackdown in the not-so-distant future.
Speaking of 'futures', does anyone else like the idea of there being a "new" Undertaker once Mark Callaway calls it quits? Maybe a guy like Matt Morgan can become the 'new' Undertaker. I have my likes and dislikes about this idea. I like it because it allows for the WWE to keep an AWESOME gimmick immortal. Perhaps the whole "Undertaker" thing can be like a 'lineage' of sorts (kind of like the movie "Zorro" where we saw a new 'Zorro" emerge when the original one got too old). Having this idea also allows for a DESERVING big man to 'get over' right away.
Disadvantage - The fans may not like it. We saw how well 'fake Diesel' went over.
-I still contend that Smackdown could use Scott Steiner. He's well-known, and he can put over some up-and-comers. Smackdown needs veterans right now! What about a guy like Goldust? Goldust can put over some new talent if he got re-hired. How about a feud with former tag partner Booker T?
-I was thinking about Maven. Notice how he got ZERO crowd reaction when he entered the Battle Royale? I was thinking about the following: Have him move to Smackdown, and push him in a similar way to "Rocky Maivia". I was thinking that Smackdown could shove Maven down the throats of the fans (without trying to IMPLY that the fans should boo him), until the fans boo the CRAP out of him! (much to the "dismay" of Cole, Tazz, etc.). At THIS point, Maven (much like Rocky Maivia) can start openly acting heelish.
Maybe it's just me, but I think Maven would play a good "Rocky Maivia" type face.....er heel. :shifty: I can see it now.....with the "Maven sucks!" and "Die Maven Die" chants. ;)
Now that "Matt" from Tough Enough III is about to debut, I am also hoping that Jonah gets signed as well. That is who I picked to win Tough Enough III. Jonah wasn't the best wrestler there, but he had "the look" and the charisma. He also had the size. Hopefully - the WWE signs (signed?) him.
And lastly - I still have hopes the Brock Lesnar comes back to the WWE. If he does come back, I'd push him as a face (hopefully by this time, a guy like Cena or RVD will have turned heel). I'd push Lesnar as a face for a few reasons.
1) Lesnar wouldn't have to JOB clean. Lesnar's whole gimmick is about being 'dominating'. It looks bad for his gimmick when he loses cleanly (if that makes sense). Heels not named Triple H, usually have to lose cleanly. As a face, Lesnar can lose by outside interference, getting screwed, etc. I'd have him basically be the "Steve Austin of 2004, etc."
2) I'm assuming that Lesnar would get a huge pop upon returning (I could be wrong however.......perhaps the fans will not like him for 'selling out' to the NFL). If he receives a huge pop however, the WWE could really capitalize on that.