MLB Season Thread

[BCWWF]

This is kind of belated, but just an ongoing chat about games that take place.

I'll start, Nomar's grand slam against the Twins was key

[Loose Cannon]

Texas back in First.

[The Outlaw]

Braves 32-37 :'(

[The Miz]

go mariners :shifty:

[BCWWF]

Speaking of the Mariners, how do you feel now Eddie?

"Its not about the money...I am just leaving the team that developed me for nine years and whose fans adopted me because even though they don't have a lot of money, they won't pay me as much."

Eddie, you put your foot in your mouth there. You could have stayed with the team that loved you and been in contention again, but you decided to say it wasn't about the money while leaving for more money. Eddie was a solid closer, but he was never a great pitcher, every one of his saves included like two hits. We would have loved to keep him, but I hope he's enjoying the hole he's dug for himself.

I hope the Twins sign a bunch of guys to extensions during the season just to make fun of Eddie.

[DaveWadding]

I think it's hilarious how every player who leaves Minnesota "wasn't really that good, anyways"

[BCWWF]

He was better than everyone in our bullpen now besides Nathan, but by having 40 saves he was in the same group as Gagne, Wagner, Rivera, Foulke, etc, who were actually great pictures.

[John Rocker]

John Rocker + Atlanta Braves = Championships

[BCWWF]

I'll say the same thing for two other plays Dave. David Ortiz and Chauncey Billups.

Both were good players when they were in Minnesota, and had they stayed they never would have been great. Put Ortiz in Fenway, he can totally take advantage of their walls and lineup, and now he is an MVP candidate. He wasn't that good in Minnesota, and I have no shame that we didn't keep him.

The same thing with Chauncey Billups, he was good in Minnesota, but he wasn't great. We would have liked to keep him, but he saw better opportunities in the East and went there, and did amazing things. I personally don't think he would have been as good if he stayed with Minnesota, because he fits perfectly in with the Pistons. It worked out better for both teams, because Detroit wouldn't have won without him, and we wouldn't have done anything without Sam Cassell, even if we still did have Chauncey.

If you want to dispute me and prove that Eddie Guardado actually was a great pitcher, and worth every cent he is paid, than do it. If you saw him pitch everynight for two years and give up at least one hit per save, you would know that his stats don't reflect his ability. He pitches straight fastballs, and it works for the most part, and he would have been a good asset on our team, but he decided that he was better than he is and demanded more money, and Seattle picked it up. We're still leading the division and beating the Red Sox right now, how are the Diamondbacks doing?

[BCWWF]

Whoa, that was a pretty weird set of posts by me

[Loose Cannon]

The Sox are ahead of the TWINS. Twins play in a weak ass division too.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

AL Central is a joke

[BCWWF]

4-1 in the bottom of the 6th actually

[Loose Cannon]

Oh, I thought you were talking about standings, not a game,

[OssMan]

At least the Mets have Glavine.

[The Miz]

Fuck Guardado, everyday eddie my ass. You can have him back, we dont like him here

Why Kaz why :'(

[OssMan]

35-34 :-\

Also check out Jon Lieber in the following pic:

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/2004/05/19/cNgIQQyZ.jpg

like he got spit on his face or something

[BCWWF]

I'm not sure if I like Fenway or hate it. Its got the messed up walls and stuff, which can be cool cause theres a lot of hits and a lot of weird stuff happens, but at the same time it seems like Boston uses it as a huge home field advantage, cause they know where to hit it and everything. I get freaked out everytime theres a fly to right, because a normal fly has like a 95% chance of bring gone in right field. Lets just hope the Twins can win this

[BCWWF]

That Twins/Red Sox series was overall pretty good. We had a grand slam, some great pitching, good hitting, and great defense. Exciting to say the least, too bad 90% of our games are against White Sox, Royals, Indians, Tigers :-/

[The Miz]

Houston gets:
Carlos Beltran CF

Oakland gets:
Octavio Dotel CP
$$$

Kansas City gets:
Mike Teahen 3B
Mike Wood RP
John Buck C

Even though Beltran is obviouslt the big name I think Oakland raped everybody here. They'd been the hottest team in baseball 2 weeks ago and got cold last week but it was due to their bullpen. Rhodes was not reliable as the closer but he is nasty as the set-up man.

The real loser in this deal is Craig Biggio. He has to change positions for the 4th time. :(

[Loose Cannon]

Jeez, Ponson 3-10, Ouch. Great pickup for Oakland BTW. They really needed a closer.

D-Rays just smacked the Jays 19-13 too. You know, I feel sorry for the Rays, throw them in the Central and they are a 2ND place team.

[The Outlaw]

Where will Biggio move to? Left field?

He probably won't mind, he seems to be the kind of player to change positions for the good of the team.

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah, Biggio's going to left. Beltran will be gone by next year though. The Stros want to win now and they might just pull it off.

[The Outlaw]

I figured he'd be moving over since they got Hidalgo out of the outfield.

They are looking pretty stacked now.

[YOUR Hero]

They'll trade Hildago soon enough.

[The Miz]

They'll trade Hildago soon enough.

Maybe as soon as last week. :p

[The Outlaw]

lol

Yeah he's a Met now.

[YOUR Hero]

Is he? LOL

Told ya. :p

[BCWWF]

It seems like the Astro's are losing relievers pretty hard, first Billy Wagner now Dotel, who do they have still? It this going to come back to bite them or do they have a solid enough pen?

They still have some work to do, because I think as of right now both the Cubs and Cardinals are better teams.

[The Miz]

Brad Lidge's 100 mph heater will close

[BCWWF]

God, I just turned on FSN and was like "Whoa, I thought the Twins were only playing three at Fenway, I didn't know they had another day game." Then after watching for a little, I was like, whoa, this is going into extra innings too, and Balfour is pitching hot again! But then Bert said something that set it off, and I am pissed that I just got punk'd.

[YOUR Hero]

Yup, Lidge will close.

[DegenerationY]

Woo, Giants once again owning in the West, as weak as the division is.

HOWEVER, the Giants are beating the A's 5-0 in the second inning, courtesy of back to back homers against none other than Barry Zito.

BTW, there was that little thing about the sweep against LA - the first 4 game sweep of the Dodgers since 1935 (or thereabouts).

I'm so stoked for the rest of this season :D

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

are the Astros going with David Weathers as their closer now?

If these are 3 top ass prospects (the ones KC got) they should make out real well. Randa is a billion years old.

Go Phils. We need a starter.

[The Outlaw]

are the Astros going with David Weathers as their closer now?

If these are 3 top ass prospects (the ones KC got) they should make out real well. Randa is a billion years old.

Go Phils. We need a starter.

Lidge.

[BCWWF]

Wasn't Dotel having some struggles closing for Houston?

[The Miz]

Not near the sruggles of Rhodes/Mecir

[BCWWF]

Has anyone else seen the new red hats the Twins wear sometimes? I kinda like em

[BCWWF]

Freddy Garcia to the White Sox for Miguel Olivo.

If the Twins don't make a move, I think this will work out better than Alomar and Everett did last year for the White Sox. They are already putting up a lot of runs, even with Magglio out. Olivo was good, but it won't kill them. The Twins either need to get themselves another starting pitcher, setup man, or power hitter, otherwise this could be the death of us.

[The Outlaw]

Talks about Magglio being traded to Atlanta for A. Jones.

:(

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

Andruw Jones is not what he once was but he is still pretty damn good. Magglio has a bum knee.

If it happens, I dont know who would play ChiSox RF, but JD Drew moves to CF and Mags plays RF for ATL

[The Outlaw]

Fuck that. I'd rather have Druw.

[BCWWF]

Wasn't it Andruw and Russ Ortiz? Or just Andruw? (I think thats how you spell his name)


Anyway, I think they're better off with Magglio than anybody else. But meh.

[YOUR Hero]

Andruw Jones is a stud. Can't trade him.

[Loose Cannon]

Yanks just pounded Boston 11-3. :yes:

[YOUR Hero]

Giambi and his roided body fell apart again today I understand.

[Loose Cannon]

HEY, how are those Jays doing? I heard Joe Carter Bobblehead night was a smash

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox played like shit

All the radio stations around here are starting to bash Millar

I predict if he wasn't such a "clubhouse" guy he would be long gone, he is a liability out in the field. No matter where you put him...ridiculous

[The Outlaw]

Weak.

At first it was Mag for Russ, but since the Sox received Garcia, tha talks shifted from Ortiz to Andruw.

I dunno, Andruw can hit and play defense considering he has what, 6 gold gloves? Magglio is a stud at the plate but isn't that great in the field. Plus there's 4 years difference I think.

Dunno, I'd still want Andruw.

[Loose Cannon]

Not to sound like a jackass, but I can't stand that guy Milar. He just looks like an ass. Wasn't he the guy that started that whole "Cowboy Up" thing?

[Loose Cannon]

I think I'd rather have Magglio then Jones, but Jones has been a Brave all his career, so I see where your coming from.

[YOUR Hero]

HEY, how are those Jays doing? I heard Joe Carter Bobblehead night was a smash
What does this have to do with the fact Giambi hasn't done a thing in two years? Except spend time on the DL.

[Loose Cannon]

What does this have to do with the fact Giambi hasn't done a thing in two years? Except spend time on the DL.

WHAT? OKAY. First of all, last year he played 156 games and hit 41 homers and 107 RBI's. In 2002, he played 155, hit .314 and 41 homers. This year has been slow, but the year is not finished yet. Saying he hasn't done anything in two years because he was on the DL is ridiculous. You're just making stuff up.

[YOUR Hero]

Last year, except for the end of the season, he sucked. His avg. at the end of the year was something like .250 And this year he has what? 11 HR's?

How much is he making per year again?

[Loose Cannon]

Alright, so it's one year then, not two. Every good player has thier bad years. Yiu can't expect big numbers sometimes. Tejada had a bad year last year after he won the MVP. Thta's how things go.

[YOUR Hero]

140 strike outs last year to boot.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What exactly happed with Giambi? What did he "hurt"

[YOUR Hero]

I was counting last year and this year. That's two.

I doubt very much he'll do anything this year eithr. He's hitting like .235, has seen his OBP. drop like a stone and is simply blown up. I suspect by the end of next season, he'll be gone from NY

[YOUR Hero]

All I heard Stima was he was admitted to the hospital. I didn't catch the details.

[Loose Cannon]

I was counting last year and this year. That's two.

I doubt very much he'll do anything this year eithr. He's hitting like .235, has seen his OBP. drop like a stone and is simply blown up. I suspect by the end of next season, he'll be gone from NY

HOW is that 2 years? This year isn't over yet. And he had a .527 Slugging last year and .430 OBP. That's not bad at all.

[Dragon]

They said he had some stomach virus or something making him too weak to play.

[Dragon]

Intestinal parasites apparently.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The Reds are sucking a big fat penis these days. Tomorrow is Sean Casey bobblehead day and he might not play.

That's it I'm rooting for Oakland

[YOUR Hero]

HOW is that 2 years? This year isn't over yet. And he had a .527 Slugging last year and .430 OBP. That's not bad at all.
Those numbers are inflated due to who he is and where he plays. He had better production as an A. Considering the lineup he know bats in, there is no way he should have lesser numbers now than before. Even in his first season in NY, his production, except for HR and strike outs totals, has dropped.

[OssMan]

METS VS REDS SUPREME

YOU ARE ON ALA LETS MAKE A BET

[OssMan]

also Mets beat Reds last night :cool:

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah, you have to understand though. When guys, especially stars/power hitters from another team, come to NY, thier numbers drop off. Giambi was not the only star when he arrived in NY, and he ceratinly is not the only one this year. It's hard to adjust when you are not "the man" anymore. And look at A-ROD this year, he started slow and he's not doing as well as he did last year with Texas. But I still don't know why I'm arguing this. He had one bad year, THAT'S it. We aren't even at the all-star break yet, let's finish the season first.

[The Outlaw]

Yeah as much as I hate to agree with a Yankee fan, this is as close as it gets. :(

BTW:

Jun 30 First baseman Jason Giambi, dropped to seventh in the order as his batting average has dipped to .237, was diagnosed with an intestinal parasite. "It's not something you want to hear, but at the same time, it makes you feel good that they finally know what's going on," Giambi told Newsday. "It makes you understand why you've been getting jammed by pitchers throwing 88 miles per hour all over the place." Giambi has been vomiting and feeling weak for the past three weeks. He told Newsday that while he hasn't lost weight despite loss of appetite because he still consumes protein drinks, the illness limited his time in the weight room. "What I'm excited about is that at least we know the reason why and I can fix it," Giambi said. "It's been so hard for me just to get up for the games and it's gotten progressively worse."

The undisclosed parasite, which Giambi likely got from contaminated food or water, is being treated with antibiotics. Team doctors have told Giambi he can return to the lineup once he regains his strength, which could be as early as Wednesday.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Sons of bitches

Bases loaded, no outs...nothing :mad: Bullshit called 3rd strike, but still that's no excuse. How can you not score any runs with the bases load and no outs?

Disgusting

[Dragon]

Nomar with another error. Their defense has really struggled this series.

I don't really follow the Sox games unless they are playing the Yankees, are they always this bad defensively?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Mets jobbed to the Reds today</font> :(

[Loose Cannon]

lol at Ortiz thinking the ball went right through his glove.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nomars error wasnt THAT bad but the errors have really hurt them this series. Usually isn't this bad.

[Loose Cannon]

Ortiz should of scooped that Nomar throw. It was a tough play to make anyway.

[Champion of Europa]

After watching the Yankees vs. Red Sox game, I think I like the Red Sox better, even though the Yankees are the better team.

Johnny Damon is the freakin' man. Although Ortiz fucked up, he is the man as well. Manny failed to impress me, though.

[Dragon]

Good game with the Sox and Yankees so far.

Crazy play by Jeter.

[Loose Cannon]

4-4 14th inning. :cool:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

FUCK

[Loose Cannon]

SWEEP. 5-4 YANKS. And today is another reason why I can't stand fk'n Pedro. I give him complete respect on being a great picture, but was it neccesary to hit Shef. I mean, I understand Pedro geting pissed at Sheff for calling time twice, but you don't hit a guy for that. Come up and in fine, but don't blatanly fk'n hit him.

But nice plays by Reese and then Jeter

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Veritek staring down that guy when he tried to sweep his legs was gangsta

Fuckin pissed about the game though. Why the fuck can't the Sox score runs :mad: :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

Hands Loose Cannon a broom..

start sweeping..


Vel, I got your broom, I think you might need it now. :cool:

[Dragon]

Crazy game.

[Champion of Europa]

Shit! Sox lost again? Damn. Can someone give me a rundown cause it wasn't televised here?

[Gonzo]

Mets? What? What? What!?

[The Outlaw]

LOL @ the double "triple" play by Jeter.

Also, Sheff would murder Pedro.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL why do you say that

I always saw Sheff was one of those huge guys that cannot fight at all. Not saying Pedro can rumble or anything though

[The Outlaw]

I dunno

I always figured Sheff could hold his own pretty well. He was pretty pissed too. Pedro just kind of looked at him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pedro hits everyone and doesn't even care. Everybody talks tough but the only person to ever actually go after him was Zimmer lol

[The Outlaw]

ANd that turned into quite a funny sight :eek:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The Red Sox/Yankees game was probably the best game I have seen all season. So much crazy shit going on. That Jeter play though, I dunno what he was doing. I think he coulda stopped himself before going like 5 rows deep.

Sheff playing 3rd base lol

[BCWWF]

I thought Sheff was super badass, like grew up in the ghetto and would kill you? Maybe I'm misinformed.

[Loose Cannon]

The Red Sox/Yankees game was probably the best game I have seen all season. So much crazy shit going on. That Jeter play though, I dunno what he was doing. I think he coulda stopped himself before going like 5 rows deep.

Sheff playing 3rd base lol

Yeah, Sheff hasn't played 3rd since 93. I don't think Jeter could of stopped, he was going full speed and you now how hard it is to stop doing shit like that.

[Dragon]

Yeah, it looked like it would have been tough to stop when he's running full speed.

A lot of things I've watched recapping the game were talking about how Nomar didn't get involved at all. While everyone else was up off the bench cheering on the team, he never left the bench at all.

[Champion of Europa]

Watching the Red Sox vs. the Braves :heart:

Ortiz is the man. :heart:

Also, Varitek is starting to grow on me.

But Johnny Damon struck out. :(

Rameriez still hasn't impressed me.

[Champion of Europa]

WOOO! Damon scores to put the Sox ahead 3-2 in the 10th.

I'm so buying a Damon jersey.

I hope the Red Sox defense doesn't blow this.

[Champion of Europa]

SHIT. Tied again.

[Champion of Europa]

FUCKING BRAVES :mad:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Manny proves once again he is the only clutch guy on the team

But hes a still a bum though right VEL? Because he doesn't run out popflys hahaha

[The Miz]

lol, the red sox are done.

[The Outlaw]

YEAH WHAT NICK GREEN BITCHES

[KingofOldSchool]

Hahaha I bet the Sox's are wishin they had walked Green instead. :naughty:

[Boomer]

YEAH WHAT NICK GREEN BITCHES

sssssssssssssssssssss

2.5 back 2.5 back....just watch em comin

[OssMan]

39/39 :|

[The Outlaw]

Considering we were what, 30-37 not too long ago? ;)

[OssMan]

YANKEES: OWNED

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

9 Runs in one inning

WOW

[The Outlaw]

:cool:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Looking at the standing, the Sox aren't outta the wild card race at all surprisingly

New York has pulled away in the AL East by 8 games but in another division Yankees would be up atleast 6 games up too so its not as bad as I thought

[John la Rock]

the Yankees/Red Sox game from Thursday night was one of the best games of all time. From start to finish it was awesome. The Yanks and Sox never dissapoint :y:

[Yashamaga]

I think we're gonna start turning it around now. Anyone's better than D-Blowe and at least he's not starting for another 5 days.

And the Sox rule at Fenway so it's good we have a homestand now. These next few series with the A's and Angels are HUGE.

So CoE, were you rooting for the Yankees when they got SWEPT (Loose Cannon :naughty: ) by the Mets?

[Yashamaga]

Also

Why isn't anyone talking about Ortiz for MVP? If anyone deserves it, it's him.

[Champion of Europa]

So CoE, were you rooting for the Yankees when they got SWEPT (Loose Cannon :naughty: ) by the Mets?

Nah, I wanted them to lose as revenge for the Red Sox, and I got my wish.

[DaveWadding]

So you are a Sox fan now, eh? :love:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Join the nation

[Shaggy]

Well my hometown Astros got there asses handed to them today. I dont like them but still I feel they should of done better. They lost like 18-3 and allowed the Rangers to hit two grand slams off them. It was one crazy ass kicking.

[Champion of Europa]

So you are a Sox fan now, eh? :love:

Yeah, I'm a Sox fan.

The Yankees are evil.

[DaveWadding]

You, sir, are the man

[Loose Cannon]

lol, what are you doing COE? You just signed yourself to a contract of heartbreaking Octobers buddy. Good luck with that :)

[Boomer]

I love how the Braves decide to win while EVERYONE IN THEIR DIVISION DECIDES TO WIN

3.5 games man....3.5

[Yashamaga]

Yeah, I'm a Sox fan.

The Yankees are evil.

:cool:

Not that we have the Champion of Europa completely on our side, I feel that THIS is indeed the year.

[YOUR Hero]

What the fuck happened to Lowe today? LOL, I'm not a hater of the RedSox or anything, but I just found myself laughing at that game today.

[Champion of Europa]

lol, what are you doing COE? You just signed yourself to a contract of heartbreaking Octobers buddy. Good luck with that :)

Yeah, well, at least with the Sox I have people who put the O lowercase in my initaled name. :mad:

[Dragon]

Swept by the Mets. Pretty rough weekend.

[BCWWF]

Thats gotta be real good news for the Red Sox, three straight from the Yankee's, take advantage of it you pussies.

[MVP]

Thats gotta be real good news for the Red Sox, three straight from the Yankee's, take advantage of it you pussies.The Sox are still 6-3 against the Yankees this season.

And yes I do realize the Sox are like 6 games back in the division. :mad:

[BCWWF]

Anytime the Yankees are swept it helps the Red Sox. If they didn't get swept the Red Sox would be further back. I was simply stating the obvious.

[MVP]

Anytime the Yankees are swept it helps the Red Sox. If they didn't get swept the Red Sox would be further back. I was simply stating the obvious.I hope you're right.

[BCWWF]

Johan Santana for Cy Young

[DegenerationY]

GOOD JOB, GIANTS BULLPEN.

Jason Schmidt had a 1 hit semi-gem going into the 8th inning. The bullpen then went ahead and allowed 7 runs in the following two innings, denying Schmidt the win he deserved.

FUCK :mad:

[CNM]

GOOD JOB, GIANTS BULLPEN.

Jason Schmidt had a 1 hit semi-gem going into the 8th inning. The bullpen then went ahead and allowed 7 runs in the following two innings, denying Schmidt the win he deserved.

FUCK :mad:

Yesssss. :cool: Come on Rox, sweep the Giants.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox just dropped 11 runs on Oakland...Hopefully the bats are waking up

[The Miz]

What the hell is wrong with Barry Zito?

[BCWWF]

Whats going on, the Yankee's seem to be losing a lot lately? They're down 8-3 to Detroit right now, Detroit is cool.

[Dragon]

Yeah, the Yankees are struggling with their pitching. None of their starting pitchers have been really reliable lately.

[The Miz]

Has anyone heard about this rumored trade?

Oakland gets:
Michael Cuddyer 3B/2B
Grant Balfour RP
prospects

Minnesota gets:
Barry Zito SP

[Loose Cannon]

NOOOOOOOOOOO, Don't break up The Big Three. They Rule. Zito has really dropped though. But, in Zito's defense, it seems like every good game he pitches, the A's don't give him run support and he ends of losing. It's happened like the past 2 yrs.

[BCWWF]

I haven't heard that, but watching SportsCenter today I was thinking to myself "Why don't the Twins look at Zito, considering we need a new SP." I never thought anything would actually happen though, knowing the Twins.

Looking at that trade, the first thing that comes to mind is that it doesn't seem like Oakland would be getting a lot, considering how good Zito had been in the past. Cuddyer is an all around solid player, the Twins biggest prospect a few years ago. Now he can play most positions on the field and hits well, but he won't be an all star I reckon. Balfour can throw pretty hard and in time I could see him being a real good RP. Maybe theres other prospects involved.

I think that would be a good trade for the Twins though (Obviously), unless Zito was just a huge huge choke, which I don't think he would be. I think that if he stays on Oakland he will break out and be good by the playoffs. Anyway.

[MVP]

Nomar hit his 3rd season homer, things are picking up a little bit.

*Knocks on wood*

[Boomer]

HAHAHAHAHA

*looks at current scores*

Braves win 14 to 2

Mets beating Phils 10 to 000000000

Florida lost to Pitts 4 to 3

1.5 guys, 1.5

(go braves)

[The Outlaw]

Yeah I'm hoping we stay hot.

Andruw 4-4, 2 homeruns, 5 ribbies. Maybe we should start rumors about other guys getting traded.

Also JD Drew not being an all star is total BS.

[DaveWadding]

JDL**

[The Outlaw]

That was so witty.

btw how are the diamondbacks doing this year?

[The Miz]

Not as good as Minnesota I'll bet theyll win the world series

[The Outlaw]

Minnesota has one too many world series titles. :mad:

[Champion of Europa]

Red Sox DESTROYED the A's.

Fantastic.

Damon is really awesome.

[BCWWF]

Whats all that supposed to mean?

[BCWWF]

That triple play, how slow was that guy going to first? Honestly you should be able to walk that.

[ct2k]

Red Sox DESTROYED the A's.

Fantastic.

Damon is really awesome.

Damon is the man.

Pedro looked pretty solid last night too, only had one tough inning where he gave up the 3 and always looked one step ahead as always.

[Loose Cannon]

FK'N Yanks. What are they losing unpurpose to let the Sox play catch up a little. :naughty:

[ct2k]

That's the one, psh, Tigers!

[ct2k]

Well Cleveland just got shitted on

[Loose Cannon]

:eek: :eek: My god, you see that shot by A-ROD today.

[Dragon]

Yeah, that was pretty huge.

[ct2k]

Yet another come from behind victory for the Yanks:D

Boy did Kenny Rogers get knocked around tonight? Didn't even make it through the 2nd!

[BCWWF]

How about those BoSox today?

[The Miz]

How about those A's raping the Indians

[The Outlaw]

CC :(

CHarles Thomas whatttttup

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Red Sox win another one :cool:

Hopefully they get this shit going threw and til the end of the season

I never noticed how young Texas's infield is...pretty ridiculous

[ct2k]

Well we get Cubs/Cards in the UK tonight, usually a good matchup, Kerry Wood on the mound, not seen him in ages so should be cool

[DaveWadding]

Kerry's just back from injury, so dont expect anything spectacular.

[ct2k]

Yeah i know but i've literally not seen him pitch for a few years so its cool to see him on the mound again.

[ct2k]

*sends a broom to every Tampa fan*

:D

[BCWWF]

Its getting annoying when Johan Santana lets in two runs right away and is lights out the rest of the game, but the Twins can't put in even one run.

[ct2k]

Barry Zito was a victim of that today, he let in 2 (of 4) over 7 and the A's could only muster a run, he's 4-7 now :-\

[BCWWF]

I hope the Miz is the man and Zito is actually coming to the Twins, but that hasn't been discussed yet and the Twins are probably going to get Miguel Batista, and I have no problem in that!

[ct2k]

Win win really, Zito's gonna start winning eventually

[BCWWF]

Yeah, I don't think it would be smart to trade Zito at all

[Boomer]

BRAVES ARE 1 BACKKKKK

[Loose Cannon]

Barry Zito was a victim of that today, he let in 2 (of 4) over 7 and the A's could only muster a run, he's 4-7 now :-\

fk'n christ. again. Look at my post about Zito before this. The A's can't score for this guy at all. His numbers are decieving because he gets no support ever.

[The Outlaw]

BRAVES ARE 1 BACKKKKK

YEAHHHHH

Never thought they would be 1 back. :$

[Boomer]

YEAHHHHH

Never thought they would be 1 back. :$

And holy shit we get Giles back after the break most likely. This is gonna be good.

BTW I've heard trade rumors for Andruw Jones. I wonder if the braves would do it.

[BCWWF]

I assume the only thing holding the Braves back from trying to dish Jones would be if it would mess up the team chemistry, because his hitting is no reason to keep him around.

With that said, I have to root for the Braves in this situation, because I can relate to their situation. Like the Braves, my track team had a great winning tradition, six straight True Team State Championships going into this year. This year we obviously weren't the best team in the state anymore, and it showed early in the season, but as the season went on everybody stepped it up and pulled it together because of the great tradition of our team, and we ended up getting 2nd place by 4 points, and if you know True Team scoring that is VERY close. That is exactly what the Braves guys are doing right now, they know they aren't the once dominant Braves, but they are no pushover, and the tradition in their organization is getting their players to play better than they normally would, and because of that I am rooting for them.

[The Miz]

God ESPN pisses me off. We don't want to see Cubs/Cardinals, Cubs/Astros, or Astrors/Reds every week assholes.

[BCWWF]

We want to see the Twins/Royals damnit :mad:

[ct2k]

Man KC suck so much this year, especially considering how much they'd been tipped to be in the running

[House of Pancakes]

fk'n christ. again. Look at my post about Zito before this. The A's can't score for this guy at all. His numbers are decieving because he gets no support ever.

But isn't his ERA over 5.00 and his WHIP over 1.50? He still sucks.

[ct2k]

He's having an awful awful season. Lucky for the A's Mulder and Hudson aren't.

[The Miz]

But isn't his ERA over 5.00 and his WHIP over 1.50? He still sucks.
He doesn't suck. If he sucked he would'nt have won 20 games and the Cy Young a couple years ago. Zito has eben getting off to rough starts, giving up 3-4 runs in the first couple innings and the A's haven't been able to come back. If you look at his ERA after the 3rd inning it's the numbers you would epect from Zito. As soon as he figures out how to get off to a good start he'll be fine.

[Boomer]

HAHAHA THE BRAVES ARE IN FIRSTTTTTT

[The Miz]

K since it's right at midseason I'm gonna make predictions on how they will finish.

NL West
x-San Francisco
y-Los Angeles
San Diego
Colorado
Arizona

NL Central
x-St. Louis
Chicago
Milwaukee
Houston
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh

NL East
x-Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida
New York
Montreal

AL West
x-Oakland
Texas
Anaheim
Seattle

AL Central
x-Chicago
Minnesota
Detroit
Cleveland
Kansas City

AL East
x-New York
y-Boston
Tampa Bay
Baltimore
Toronto

NLDS: Dodgers over Phillies, Cardinals over Giants
NLCS: Cardinals over Dodgers
ALDS: Yankees over ChiSox, A's over BoSox
ALCS: A's over Yankees
WS: Cardinals over A's

[DaveWadding]

NL West
x-San Francisco
San Diego
Los Angeles
Arizona
Colorado

NL Central
x- Chicago
y- St. Louis
Milwaukee
Houston
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh

NL East
x-Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida
New York
Montreal

AL West
x-Oakland
Anaheim
Texas
Seattle

AL Central
x-Chicago
Minnesota
Cleveland
Detroit
Kansas City

AL East
x-New York
y-Boston
Tampa Bay
Baltimore
Toronto

NLDS: Cardinals over Phillies, Cubs over Giants
NLCS: Cubs over Cardinals
ALDS: Yankees over ChiSox, A's over BoSox
ALCS: A's over Yankees
WS: Cubs over A's

(Hey, I can dream :()

[ct2k]

Good to see Contreras pitching a great game against the Tigers, 4 decent starters and maybe Jon Lieber sorting himself out looks promising for the post season

[ct2k]

And how about them Twins going down to KC tut tut :p

[Dragon]

Kevin Brown played a minor league game though and only lasted two innings, I think he gave up like 6 runs. So he isn't really reliable.

[BCWWF]

The Twins will take the AL Central, the White Sox don't have the makeup of a team that can continue winning.

[Yashamaga]

how come?

They have a great offense that just got it's best player back and they have 3 great starters.

The Twins only have Santana (of the most underated pitchers in the league though) and an anemic offense.

[ct2k]

Kevin Brown played a minor league game though and only lasted two innings, I think he gave up like 6 runs. So he isn't really reliable.

He's been on the DL for a while now though so he's bound to be rusty and there's a long way to go til the playoffs. He was 7-1 and went 6+ innings in 11 of his 13 starts, that's pretty reliable, especially with an offense like the Yanks' to back you up. If Mussina can get his era down a bit and Vazquez and Contreras carry on like they've been going this year that's a potentially great rotation.

[ct2k]

how come?

They have a great offense that just got it's best player back and they have 3 great starters.

The Twins only have Santana (of the most underated pitchers in the league though) and an anemic offense.

Agreed i definitely think it's White Sox all the way in the Central

[BCWWF]

Frank Thomas is pretty much out for the season, they have bad defense, and they don't have chemistry. Radke is terribly underrated aswell, he has a great ERA but no run support.

Its not going to be a run away either way, but I think the Twins will still take it in the final week because of experience and chemistry.

Shannon Stewart is now back, so now for the first time in months we have a solid 1-5 in the batting order. (Shannon, Guzman, Mauer, Lew, Hunter). Then add a fifth starter and bring back Mike Ryan, we will be right back in there. Joe Mays will be back in a month for long relief and Jesse Crain will come up when he is ok too. Once things flatten out we will be a lot better than we were in the first half, which is why I don't think Chicago will run away with it at all

[ct2k]

Barry Zito finally won again last night, only gave up 1 run over 7, the A's will have the best rotation going i reckon

[BCWWF]

The typical A's post All-Star Break run

[The Miz]

According to TBS, White Sox got Carl Everett for two relievers, i forget the names but one of them was 6'11"

[BCWWF]

The Sox got Carl Everett back? Thats a mistake.

[DaveWadding]

Jon Rauch?

[The Miz]

yeah

[The Miz]

If you guys have never herad of a kid from Oakland named Bobby Crosby, watch for him.

[The Miz]

The Sox got Carl Everett back? Thats a mistake.
Why? They just lost the Big Hurt for 2 months. Ordonez, Konerko, and Everett is one of the best 3-4-5's in the league. I know you want to pretend like the Twins are better than the White Sox cuz theyre youre team and all but its pretty obvious the White Sox are the better team. The White Sox had been leading the Twins without their best player so why would anything change now? And I dunno about you but I'd take Loaiza/Buehrle/Garland/Garcia over Santana/Radke/Lohse/Silva any day.

[BCWWF]

Everett sucks, he is no better than Matthew LeCroy and LeCroy sucks. He missed most of the first half, but in that time he was hitting 250. He isn't the kind of guy who generates a lot of runs and he doesn't have the winning experience.

Yeah Ordonez was injured most of the first half, but so was Shannon Stewart and Joe Mauer. We haven't had a fifth starter all year, Terry Mulholland has been starting, in a few weeks we are guaranteed to have either Kris Benson or Miguel Batista because of our ample farm system.

Oh, no we just lost a series to the Royals...seasons over...Even though three of our starters didn't play and our DH is just coming back from the 60 day DL...That series meant absolutely nothing because we didn't lose any ground while playing our Triple A team.

What makes the Twins good is not having the best players, last year the White Sox had better players than the Twins, but they have absolutely no chemistry. Adding Everett is the last guy they need, he did shit for them last season and will do shit for them this season. They need to go out and get a Kenny Lofton or Ray Durham type guy back, so they have someone for Konerko to drive in.

You can think the White Sox are a great team. You can tell me that they have better players than the Twins and I would probably agree with you. When it comes down to chemistry and knowing how to win big games, the Twins have the advantage and that is why we will take the division again.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If you guys have never herad of a kid from Oakland named Bobby Crosby, watch for him.
Yeah He's the future...

On a different team though

[BCWWF]

somebody will probably be pissed, but I think the A's would be smart to move to Portland

[The Miz]

It's not gonna happen. And they won't move to Santa Cruz or San Jose or any of the other places that have been talked about. Bud Selig does this to every team, most recently the Royals in like 95.

[BCWWF]

I heard that Portland really wants a team, and the Expo's will probably stay out East.

While watching the A's vs. White Sox on Saturday, I just started thinking about it. The Giants are pretty big in the Bay Area, easilly the dominant team there. I'm not sure the A's even fill that huge stadium in the playoffs, they obviously aren't generating enough money since in the past four years they have lost Jason Isringhausen, Johnny Damon, Jason Giambi, Miguel Tejada, Ramon Martinez to name a few. I doubt they will be getting their own stadium any time soon.

Can somebody who lives in the area tell me if losing the A's and just having the Giants would really be devastating? As usual I don't really know anything about the situation in the area, but thats what it seems like from the far out perspective.

[BCWWF]

I also have good ideas to fix the Central divisions and get rid of inter-league.

[DaveWadding]

contract Milwaukee.

Keep interleague.

[BCWWF]

Move KC to the NL and Milwaukee to the AL. It would really make a lot of sense because there is really no heat between other teams for us because the closest one is Chicago and thats 7-8 hour drive. When we played Milwaukee people actually traveled, and its two hours from White Sox. Kansas City and St. Louis is self explanitory.

[DaveWadding]

No, I think we should just contract Milwaukee and shoot Bud Selig.

[BCWWF]

Milwaukee is up and coming now with a pretty nice stadium

[BCWWF]

Joe Mauer is easily one of the most talented rookies this year, him and Bobby Crosby, but nobody in Minnesota is willing to admit this yet, he is injury prone. He already missed a lot of the first half for some random injury and now his knee is injured again, he may have to go on the DL. I'm gonna be pissed if Mauer turns out to be one of those guys who can never play a full season.

Also, WTF at Mulholland only allowing 2 hits into the 5th?

[The Miz]

Twins place C Joe Mauer on the DL.

[Yashamaga]

Crosby will be good

but the real future SS superstar can be found in San Diego.

[BCWWF]

OMG is anyone else watching this Cubs Cards game? Tied 8-8 in the 9th, Pujols with his third homer of the night, 5-5, 2B, 1B, 3HR, Cards are now up 10-8. How freakin good is he?

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL

The Cubs are choking this season just like they did last year in the NLCS.

*brings out the goat*

[BCWWF]

Thats the LaTroy Hawkins I know :lol:

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL @ LaTroy Hawkins

[The Miz]

KoOS, you are seriously a moron. The Cubs have been injury-plagued all year and are still only 2 games back of the Wild Card. Sosa, Alou, Ramirez, Grudzielanek, Wood, Prior, etc have all been injured. The Cardinals have faced no significant injuries. If being 2 games back of the Wild Card when you haven't been healthy constitutes as "choking" then I guess you're right. Keep replying to sports topics with "LOL" thogh, it makes you look smart.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yes.

Hence the curse of the Billy Goat.

[The Miz]

Holy shit anyone watching Toronto and Oakland? Both teams #5 starters on the mound, Dave Bush throws 8 innings of scoreless 1-hit ball and Rich Harden throws 8 2/3 of scoreless 2-hit ball. Going into the 12th tied at 0.

[KingofOldSchool]

And not to mention they have all of their offensive guys back now and they're still doing jack shit.

Oh and their bullpen is the shits.

[The Miz]

ESPN is reporting that the Yankees have offered the D'backs a package that includes Jorge Posada in exchange for Johnson. WTF are they nuts? If I were the Yanks I'd offer Giambi, he sucks and Tony Clark has played better with much less playing time.

[MVP]

Holy shit, Millar hit 3 homeruns.

Too bad the rest of the line-up couldn't back it. Rivera was fucking sick tonight. :mad:

[YOUR Hero]

Holy shit anyone watching Toronto and Oakland? Both teams #5 starters on the mound, Dave Bush throws 8 innings of scoreless 1-hit ball and Rich Harden throws 8 2/3 of scoreless 2-hit ball. Going into the 12th tied at 0.
Too bad for the Jays in that one. Lost 1-0...

Halladay on the mend again for the second time this year, they really need someone else to step up. Batista is doing ok, but he tends to throw a few bad pitches in a row, putting himself in a terrible fix.

[YOUR Hero]

Boone is starting to heat up for the Mariners.

They look awful this year :-\

[The Miz]

They are a joke

[Loose Cannon]

Harden can be so god dam good at times, He's a solid #3 on a lot of other teams IMO.

[The Miz]

Yeah Harden has been much more consistent than Zito or Redman this year.

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah, I kind of expected Redman to pitch the way he has been pitching this year. It's hard when you walk on to a staff like the Oakland A's, who IMO, have the best 5 man rotation in the whole league. He probably put a lot of pressure on himself and who could blame him with the other guys he's pitching with. I think that's happening to Zito too. He's trying too hard. I think if Zito were on say the Royals or something, he would have way more wins right now.

[Dragon]

Bench clearing fight between Sox and Yankees already.

[MVP]

A-Rod and Varitek are probably suspended.

[Loose Cannon]

Fuck, I missed it

[Dragon]

Yeah, A-Rod and Varitek were ejected.

Tanyon Sturtze would have been killed by David Ortiz if he had gotten at him though.

Pretty crazy.

[MVP]

I wouldn't mess wtih Ortiz either, thank God Kapler had his hands full with Sturtze.

[Dragon]

Yeah, even though Sturtze is like 6'6, David Ortiz is a beast. If he got more into that fight than he did he probably would have killed Sturtze.

[MVP]

Sturtze is out with a brusied pinky finger on his catching hand. :wtf:

[The Miz]

Pat Hentgen retired :wtf:

[Dragon]

I read that earlier. I saw his start against the Yankees the other day and he was pretty awful. I didn't think he'd be retiring though.

[The Outlaw]

Ortiz threw Sturtze down with one arm :eek:

Also, ARod is a baby. If he would have said that to me I would have did the same thing Varitek did.

[ct2k]

Varitek was an idiot for shoving him and starting it off, he woulda made ARod look like more of a fool if he'd not risen to it and just let him cry like a baby til he got to 1st, Nevermind

[Yashamaga]

huge series coming up with the Twins/CWS

I hope one of them sweeps the other one

[Dragon]

Another blown save for Rivera. He goes the whole season blowing one save, then messes up two tries in a row.

[Boomer]

Braves are making it look easyyyyyy

[Excellance of Execution]

Another blown save for Rivera. He goes the whole season blowing one save, then messes up two tries in a row.
He did that on purpose, because he wanted to get the win :lol: :shifty:

[ct2k]

He's still been awesome this year as always, his era was like 0.95 until a few days ago

[The Miz]

A's win again on a pinch hit single by the hottest hitter in the MLB Mark Kotsay. 5 in a row now. Bye Rangers :wavesad:

[ct2k]

Mark Mulder is having a shit-hot season, he's like 14-4 or something now:|

[The Miz]

Yeah Mulder had been the only one pitching for a while and the A's were still in it. Now Zito and Harden are pitching better and some guy named Tim Hudson is coming back. Uh oh.

[ct2k]

Man that's some rotation! Them and the Cards right now, two best rotations going arguably.

And goddamnit, JD Drew, Juan Pierre and Jimmy Rollins just went a combined 1 for 15, that'll do my fantasy teams wonders:mad:

[Loose Cannon]

Mulder is the FK'N man. I remember he became my favorite pitcher in the league when I got him on my fantasy team in his 2nd season and I had no idea who he was. Then he had an awesome season and I won the league with a lot of credit to him.

If he wins the CY Young, that will make all the "Big 3" on the A's Cy Young winners

[ct2k]

They're all good enough to be aces, it's like the Braves in the 90's with Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Eric Valent of the Mets hit for the cycle today (technically yesterday at this point), damn I don't think anyone expected him to do that well.</font>

[The Miz]

If he wins the CY Young, that will make all the "Big 3" on the A's Cy Young winnersHudson's never won it