RAW Thread for 12/8/03 [Archive]

Head

12-08-2003, 09:21 PM

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Mick Foley is back as the new Co General Manager of RAW and chances are that RAW is never going to be the same! Foley said last week that he is going to have an administration that puts what the fans want first and, as a sign that he intends to stand behind his word, Foley announced a petition drive to bring Stone Cold Steve Austin back to RAW! (http://bringstonecoldback.wwe.com/) Also, how will Eric Bischoff respond to all of this tonight on RAW?

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><SCRIPT language=javascript></SCRIPT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Foley also announced that on the final RAW before Armageddon, Goldberg will face Kane. Just days before their Triple Threat Match (along with Triple H) for the World Heavyweight Championship, will there be anything left of these two after RAW? Triple H certainly hopes not! Find out what happens when Goldberg and Kane go one-on-one on RAW!

Also tonight on RAW:

Christian and Chris Jericho will face the Dudley Boyz for WWE Tag Team Titles!

RVD vs. Batista

Lance Storm and Val Venis vs. Mark Jindrax and Garrison Cade

Lita and Trish Stratus vs. Victoria and Molly Holly

Booker T/Rosie/Hurricane vs. Mark Henry/Scott Steiner/Test

Watch RAW at 9/8 CT on Spike TV!

Boondock Saint

12-08-2003, 09:22 PM

Unless all the reports are wrong, the angle isn't over yet. But from this segment it did look like it's over. Wait and see I guess.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 09:25 PM

isnt steiner hurt?

battle of the sexest??? heres a jericho face change

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 09:26 PM

Ok so maybe it isn't over. Conclusion Jumping was one of my favorite events in track.

Head

12-08-2003, 09:26 PM

Would have liked to see Jericho talk them out of that situation somehow.

HeartBreakMan2k

12-08-2003, 09:26 PM

Nah with the segment involving Bisch you could hear Jericho start to say "well it started out" when Eric asked them if the bet was real.

Boondock Saint

12-08-2003, 09:26 PM

And there we go. Christian was excited about the Armageddon match, but Jericho was not.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 09:35 PM

so any news on whether or not rvd is renewing his contract?
king:you know whos going to win between kane vs goldberg?
JR.:who?
King:hhh

lol

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 09:38 PM

wtf was that powerbomb? rvd took a nasty bump

Boondock Saint

12-08-2003, 09:40 PM

Does Batista have a name for his finisher?

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 09:41 PM

Does Batista have a name for his finisher?
ouch!
i think its just a tiger bomb

Mikey

12-08-2003, 09:42 PM

:rofl: @ Foleys pose at the beginning of Raw

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 09:45 PM

6 teams in the turmoil? im missing 2
hurricane and rosey
garrison cade and mark jndrak
the dudleys
lance storm and val venis
?
?

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 09:50 PM

Kane's promo reminded me of that scene in Bad Santa:

"I think I've turned over a new leaf. I beat up a little kid today for a greater good. It made me feel good about myself."

"You need many, many years of therapy."

Boondock Saint

12-08-2003, 09:53 PM

6 teams in the turmoil? im missing 2
hurricane and rosey
garrison cade and mark jndrak
the dudleys
lance storm and val venis
?
?

la resistance...and um...not sure

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 09:54 PM

It'll probably be Jericho and Christian, after Jericho uses his favor to cancel the Battle of the Sexes match.

Kenny

12-08-2003, 09:58 PM

It'll probably be Jericho and Christian, after Jericho uses his favor to cancel the Battle of the Sexes match.

I thought he already used his favor? I'm thinking the match will still be on... and Jericho will end up costing his team the match.

Head

12-08-2003, 09:59 PM

The Rock.

What.

Kenny

12-08-2003, 09:59 PM

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THE ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 09:59 PM

wtf!!!!!!!!!

THE ROCK
HELL YEAH
FOR A NIGHT

Sensei Of Mattitude

12-08-2003, 10:00 PM

ROCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Krow

12-08-2003, 10:01 PM

[/mark out]

Well....that was unexpected.

Loose Cannon

12-08-2003, 10:01 PM

Holy Crap!!!!!! Rock out of nowhere

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:02 PM

la resistance...and um...not sure
MAYBE STEINER AND TEST

Sensei Of Mattitude

12-08-2003, 10:02 PM

MONKEY'S NUTSACK!

Sensei Of Mattitude

12-08-2003, 10:03 PM

THE ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MONKEY'S NUTSACK

6to1

12-08-2003, 10:06 PM

rock is rolling tonight.

Head

12-08-2003, 10:07 PM

Glad to see the WWE can still play off racial prejudice, and ignorance of the American people.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:07 PM

THE ROCK AND MICK TAG TEAM CHAMPS?
DID MICK HIT HIM IN THE NUTS WITH THE ELBOW DROP?

asphyXy

12-08-2003, 10:08 PM

:( <font color=969696>The Rock is on my TV screen.</font>

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:10 PM

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ROCKS NEW MUSIC??

Kenny

12-08-2003, 10:11 PM

Are they really stupid enough to pass that petition out after it was signed by The Rock? I'm looking on Ebay for it tomorrow.

Mr. JL

12-08-2003, 10:11 PM

THE ROCK!!!!!

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:12 PM

Are they really stupid enough to pass that petition out after it was signed by The Rock? I'm looking on Ebay for it tomorrow.
LOL IM SURE SECURITY IS TAKING IT AROUND

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 10:12 PM

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ROCKS NEW MUSIC??

That was the Rock's new music. It just had a different beginning this time.

Mikey

12-08-2003, 10:12 PM

:drool: @ The Rock on Raw

Boondock Saint

12-08-2003, 10:12 PM

That was a surprise. Excellent

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:14 PM

SO WILL ROCK BE AT ARMAGEDON?

Head

12-08-2003, 10:15 PM

LOL IM SURE SECURITY IS TAKING IT AROUND
I doubt the WWE really cares if it gets taken. Not like they are losing much.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:17 PM

hURRICANE IS JUST AWSOME
i THOUGHT STEINER GOT HURT AT A HOUSE SHOW AFTER GETTING FROG SPLASHED?

CANADIAN

12-08-2003, 10:20 PM

YES THE ROCK N SOCK CONNECTION!! Anyway.. Hurricane is great!

TazroK

12-08-2003, 10:20 PM

Man, Rock sucks.

(BTW This is Sushi-Z)

Darkone

12-08-2003, 10:20 PM

Always good to see the Rock. Even though I think its shitty he's spending more time doing moives. I marked out for the crowd chanting FIFI.

The Icon of Elisim

12-08-2003, 10:21 PM

Do King and JR even watch the show? They keep on asking where Stacey is when Foley did a whole segment last week where he ended the contract between her and Test.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:22 PM

YUP ITS STEINER AND TEST IN THE TURMOIL GOD THE ONLY GOOD ATHLETE IN THERE IS LANCE STORM DUDLEYS ARNT THAT BAD.
MARK HENRY REMINDS ME OF THE PREDATOR

lariat

12-08-2003, 10:23 PM

YES! Mark Henry is wrestling, this match is an instant ****+ already.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:25 PM

WAIT? WHERES THE DUDE THAT ALWAYS DOES PLAY BY PLAY? I DONT EVEN REMEMBER HIS POST NAME LOL..BUT HE DID A KICKASS JOB

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 10:27 PM

WAIT? WHERES THE DUDE THAT ALWAYS DOES PLAY BY PLAY? I DONT EVEN REMEMBER HIS POST NAME LOL..BUT HE DID A KICKASS JOB

Dude, you forgot to hit caps lock. Just letting ya know.

TazroK

12-08-2003, 10:29 PM

I like Henry. I hope he drops Booker on his 5x 5x 5x 5x 5x WCW head.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:33 PM

ROSEY KILLED TEST!!!!!
BOOKER T BROKE MARK HENRYS JAW
LOL HURRICANE VS. MARK HENRY

Sensei Of Mattitude

12-08-2003, 10:33 PM

ROSEY F*CKED UP SO BAD with his move on Test!

OMG

INCREDIBLE

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 10:34 PM

ROSEY F*CKED UP SO BAD with his move on Test!

OMG

INCREDIBLE

Looked like Test screwed up to me.

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:34 PM

Dude, you forgot to hit caps lock. Just letting ya know.
lol sorry i just noticed

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 10:35 PM

WHOOOOOO THE DISTURBED STONE COLD THEME!!! If and when Austin comes back, I hope he has that theme music again.

Loose Cannon

12-08-2003, 10:37 PM

LOL at J.R. saying Mark Henry was the most dominating man in the match. He did two FK'N bear hugs

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:41 PM

ive done season mode with goldberg

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:43 PM

christian interference?

Kenny

12-08-2003, 10:44 PM

WHOOOOOO THE DISTURBED STONE COLD THEME!!! If and when Austin comes back, I hope he has that theme music again.

Amen! I've been saying that since they got rid of that theme. That theme was awesome.

I think I liked Austin the most when he came back with that theme, with the exception of the early days before he won the WWF title.

I liked him better when you'd cheer for him and he'd start yelling at you and flip you off.

DarKCentaur

12-08-2003, 10:46 PM

Amen! I've been saying that since they got rid of that theme. That theme was awesome.

I think I liked Austin the most when he came back with that theme, with the exception of the early days before he won the WWF title.

I liked him better when you'd cheer for him and he'd start yelling at you and flip you off.

Clearly Disturbed = QUALITY. And yeah, tonight seems like a throwback to 98-99 RAW, it just has that "feel" (mainly because of the surprise Rock appearance, I guess)

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:51 PM

hardy? again... he should be wrestling
i want to see hardy and hurricane.

Boondock Saint

12-08-2003, 10:52 PM

Good RAW tonight so far. :y:

wrestling_god

12-08-2003, 10:56 PM

kane got entrance ideas from tazz lol {the towel is great}

lariat

12-08-2003, 11:02 PM

Do King and JR even watch the show? They keep on asking where Stacey is when Foley did a whole segment last week where he ended the contract between her and Test.

He did so by firing Test, but then at the end of the show they contradicted themselves but not actually firing him. Thus it kind of defeats the entire purpose of that angle, so technically Stacey is still Test's property.

Kenny

12-08-2003, 11:02 PM

kane got entrance ideas from tazz lol {the towel is great}

If I were constanly in locker rooms with Trish Stratus, Stacy, Lita, and Victoria I'd have to carry a towel around with me all the time too.

asphyXy

12-08-2003, 11:06 PM

<font color=969696>That Sweet Chin Music into a spear was awesome.</font>

M-A-G

12-08-2003, 11:46 PM

WAIT? WHERES THE DUDE THAT ALWAYS DOES PLAY BY PLAY? I DONT EVEN REMEMBER HIS POST NAME LOL..BUT HE DID A KICKASS JOB
I'm right here and my post name is right there next to this post. I couldn't get my computer going and it was an even bigger hassle with the new forums so no PBP this week. Maybe Armageddon.

Nowhere Man

12-09-2003, 12:16 AM

So what all exactly happened? I missed the show.

Bad Guy

12-09-2003, 12:20 AM

Are they really stupid enough to pass that petition out after it was signed by The Rock? I'm looking on Ebay for it tomorrow.

Yeah security hands it to each person. Plus, wouldn't do you any good anyway without a COA.

Bad Guy

12-09-2003, 12:20 AM

RAW just opened up here, and you don't hear no Jim Ross going 'Bah gawd! Oklahoma undefeated bah gawd!' Although they are still going to the championship.

Corkscrewed

12-09-2003, 03:09 AM

I'm right here and my post name is right there next to this post. I couldn't get my computer going and it was an even bigger hassle with the new forums so no PBP this week. Maybe Armageddon.

I guess they dont' let you do HTTP anymore, eh? :D

It seems a bit ho-hum, aside from The Rock's one-time appearance. Nice to see the Jericho/Christian feud indeed continuing (well, it'll become a feud eventually).

Azriel

12-09-2003, 08:00 AM

Mr. JL

12-09-2003, 10:50 AM

maybe Stacy switching to Smackdown?
Anyway, RAW was awesome last night. Rock coming back was an awesome moment. We'll see if it was more for one night, and it looks like Jericho might cost Christian the match at Armageddon, and maybe we'll see Matt and Christian team up in the future.

I'd like to see Stacy Keibler and Rob Van Dam as a 'couple' on Raw. It gives Stacy a place to be on the card, gives RVD some character depth and I think its just what RVD needs to elevate himself. All in all it would be a positive thing for all involved.

Mr. JL

12-09-2003, 11:28 AM

Oh yeah, I just want to say it was a pretty awesome Raw. Raw has been kick ass for 3 weeks in a row now. So I'm just giving out my props to the WWE for some great work. Hopefully, the ratings will reflect on how great the show was.

The Chris Jericho-Trish Stratus and Christian-Lita segment was done fairly well. I actually thought the WWE might kill the angle but then through out the show we saw that they were going to continue the interaction. Christian is a heel of all heels while Jericho looked like he was regretting what he had done. This storyline has been a really great piece of work and I hope it continues.

Great match between RVD and Batista. They fumbled a spot or two but it was a really kick ass match neverless.

The Rock 'N' Sock Connection. Need I say any more?

The six way tag team match was a very solid match. It did have a few botched spots but it was still great.

STEINER SUCKS! That was a hell of a loud chant going on. Wow. Steiner got great heat. Although, I'm not sure if it was because he was being a good heel or because thats how the fans actually think of him. Anyways, he looked good on Raw this week. (reminded me of his WCW days) The Steiner Sucks chant kind of reminded me of the infamous X-Pac sucks chants we used to hear.

Goldberg-Kane match was pretty good, not a horrible match but Kane has lost some momentum from his transition from the Shane O'Mac angle to the World title scene. Goldberg looked really good tonight and his spear on Kane was huge.

Armageddon should be a good buy rate because of the great Raw shows leading up to it. I think I may buy it and I have not bought a WWE pay per view since Wrestle Mania X8.

Great Raw!

loopydate

12-09-2003, 12:27 PM

I dug RAW last night, but something bothered me in the six-man tag match that's been bothering me about WWE for a while:

When did it become legal to win a match for your team if you're not the legal man? Test and Hurricane were the legal participants at the end of the match, but Henry can win it with a bearhug? What should have happened was 'Cane passing out in the hug, then the referee getting up in his face and forcing him out of the ring. Then, Test just rolls in and gets the cheap cover. It's heat for Test/Steiner going into the Turmoil match (plus it sets up an obvious feud with Hurricane/Rosey in that match), and WWE can pretend that the "old rules" still apply.

Other than that, though, really good show. The Rock coming back surprised me (even though I'm pissed that Foley refused to salute the French flag after he forced La Res to recite the Pledge of Allegiance last week), but I would have like to have seen him turn on Foley. That would have made La Res look like serious threats, rather than cheap-heat jobbers.

I like where the Jericho/Trish/Christian/Lita thing is headed, and I'm legitimately curious what's going on with Hardy now.

Popojiju

12-09-2003, 01:13 PM

Another excellent RAW in my opinion. Two weeks in a row where it wasn't spoiled by knowing ahead of time what was going to happen. It's begining to look like the old days where you would be anxious to watch RAW and think "What's going to happen this week?" I can't wait to see what's next, they're shaping up to be good again, hopefully. :y:

Vega

12-09-2003, 01:36 PM

The Rock showing up was really great and unexpected. Guess he's no longer a heel, lol.

The Miz

12-09-2003, 02:58 PM

i have to admit i marked out for all of rock's catchphrases, especially "it doesn't matter" :o

raw was overall pretty gay though. dudleys vs. jericho/christian and rvd/batista were pretty good but most of the other matches sucked.

btw i predict stone cold comes back at armageddon and kicks the ass of all 3 world title match participants.

Azriel

12-09-2003, 03:27 PM

Next RAW should do fairly well. Usually the RAWs after a PPV tend to do well.

Bad Guy

12-09-2003, 07:46 PM

STEINER SUCKS! That was a hell of a loud chant going on. Wow. Steiner got great heat. Although, I'm not sure if it was because he was being a good heel or because thats how the fans actually think of him. Anyways, he looked good on Raw this week. (reminded me of his WCW days) The Steiner Sucks chant kind of reminded me of the infamous X-Pac sucks chants we used to hear.

Steiner went to UofM. I love UofM. RAW was in California last night and the Rose Bowl is Michigan vs USC, so I think that's why they were saying Steiner sucks.

loopydate

12-09-2003, 08:13 PM

Steiner went to UofM. I love UofM. RAW was in California last night and the Rose Bowl is Michigan vs USC, so I think that's why they were saying Steiner sucks.

I think you're right. In fact, didn't JR say something to that effect? Of course, USC fans SHOULD have been chanting "JR sucks," since it's OU that's taking their national championship chance, not U of M. Although, if UM wins...

*Humming "Hail to the Victors*