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Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 02:53 PM
Definitely another one of the best series on TV.

I avoided watching it at first, because the original Stargate movie wasn't all that great. Kurt Russell really sucked in that movie, and shouldn't have been involved, PERIOD.

Anyways, my mistake. The series is really good, despite the original movie. The series Pilot, sometimes consider a move, "Children of the Gods," does pretty good at seguing between the movie and the series.

I love the whole "Stumbling blind" thing they have going. It took something like 70 years to figure out the Stargate itself, and suddenly, mankind is wandering about the stars. Walking with giants, so to speak, as almost every encountered race is more powerful than us, and we'vee managed to piss off a race that only hasn't stormed our planet (again) yet because they see us as too inferior to really lose sleep over.

Plus, it's got Richard Dean Anderson in it. Can't go wrong with that.

The Destroyer
12-27-2003, 03:28 PM
It took a few seasons to get going (as most shows do), but I think it's a pretty good show... although I suspect it's on its way out, even if it's been renewed for yet another season.

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 03:36 PM
It took a few seasons to get going (as most shows do), but I think it's a pretty good show... although I suspect it's on its way out, even if it's been renewed for yet another season.

The new ads make it look like this will be the end. That could just be hype to get people to watch, but I'm thinking it's pretty much over.

Despite being their biggest series, Sci-Fi has been trying to make a switch in format, and Stargate, like many of its other series, don't match up.

I'm hoping that if it does end, there's some form of continuation or spin-off, though hopefully not as horrible as Crusade was for Bab 5.

The Destroyer
12-27-2003, 04:18 PM
There's a spinoff already commissioned... it was meant to start after SG1 ended, but now it'll run side by side with the next season.

The guy that plays General Hammond is leaving though, apparently. :(

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 04:32 PM
There's a spinoff already commissioned... it was meant to start after SG1 ended, but now it'll run side by side with the next season.

The guy that plays General Hammond is leaving though, apparently. :(

I did not know that.

Either piece, actually.

I guess they're testing the waters before they axe the show...Just a guess.

I kinda think the SG-1 show could be considered to have run its course, but I certainly won't be happy to see it go. The last couple of seasons have been so good it's not even funny.

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 05:05 PM
By the way, I like the way the DVDs for SG-1 and Farscape (Another awesome Sci-Fi program) are being released. You can buy the whole seasons in one fell swoop, or you can buy the individual discs. That is totally awesome, though I opted to buy the full sets of the first two seasons, because it's prolly cheaper and I have the money right now.

Still, that's an awesome way to go, especially since Boxed sets are being released like mad and many of 'em run in excess of 100 bucks.

PoisonIvy
12-27-2003, 05:07 PM
I :heart: SG-1. But FOX keeps switching its time slot. :'(

MTR
12-27-2003, 05:11 PM
I enjoy this when I catch it on. But he has been on different channels and different times over the years I have had trouble keeping track.

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 05:16 PM
I :heart: SG-1. But FOX keeps switching its time slot. :'(

So does Sci-Fi. :mad:

They seem to have decided on when it's playing now, but they bounced it through like 9 time slots.

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 05:22 PM
I enjoy this when I catch it on. But he has been on different channels and different times over the years I have had trouble keeping track.

The easiest place is Sci Fi. They seem to have set it to Mondays, 6-11p and every other weekday, 6p, not to mention the new eps which are on Fridays at 9p &a rerun @ 11p.

The eps that show on Monday are the same as the ones that they show through the rest of the week, except for that Friday slot, which is the new season (Though it's most likely to get bumped for like a movie or something...:mad: )

There's also a saturday showing at 6 on Fox. Least, on Fox 25, which is the one that gets aired round here. They're running more recent eps than Sci-Fi...

And in doubt, www.scifi.com has a program guide for it up on their SG-1 subpage.

It's so sad that I know all that by heart. :|

Ian
12-27-2003, 06:36 PM
SG-1>Mcguyver.

The series is much better than the film, Also Kane knight I agree the farscape is indeed awesome.

The ohnly trouble with sci-fi programs is I don't tend to watch them all the time so i tend to miss important things.

I guess I'll have to watch the repeats.

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 07:57 PM
SG-1>Mcguyver.

The series is much better than the film, Also Kane knight I agree the farscape is indeed awesome.

The ohnly trouble with sci-fi programs is I don't tend to watch them all the time so i tend to miss important things.

I guess I'll have to watch the repeats.

fortunately, SG-1 is primarily Episodic in nature, so you don't really need to see every episode in order or anything. Unlike, say, Bab 5, or even to an extent Farscape. There are references to other planets, species, and events form the past, but generally you won't see many eps where it requires you actually saw previous eps.

Though there are some. A lot of the eps that deal with the Ancients or the Asgard will do that to ya.

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 07:58 PM
Oh, and SG-1 is better than McGuyver by default for one point alone--Lack of Mullets.

The Destroyer
12-27-2003, 08:02 PM
By the way, I like the way the DVDs for SG-1 and Farscape (Another awesome Sci-Fi program) are being released. You can buy the whole seasons in one fell swoop, or you can buy the individual discs. That is totally awesome, though I opted to buy the full sets of the first two seasons, because it's prolly cheaper and I have the money right now.
I love Farscape as well... Sci Fi over here are re-running the entire thing, one episode at a time at 5pm on weeknights. I've missed the entire second season due to work though.

Nice to know it's being brought back as a mini-series to conclude the story after Sci-Fi went and axed it a while back.

PoisonIvy
12-27-2003, 08:04 PM
I think I'm the only woman alive who prefers Richard Dean Anderson NOW rather than the 80's mullet man he used to be. :$

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 08:17 PM
I think I'm the only woman alive who prefers Richard Dean Anderson NOW rather than the 80's mullet man he used to be. :$

Prolly, but that just means you've got better taste...:p

PoisonIvy
12-27-2003, 08:20 PM
:cool:

Kane Knight
12-27-2003, 08:24 PM
I love Farscape as well... Sci Fi over here are re-running the entire thing, one episode at a time at 5pm on weeknights. I've missed the entire second season due to work though.

Nice to know it's being brought back as a mini-series to conclude the story after Sci-Fi went and axed it a while back.

Really dumb idea of theirs to drop it for the likes of Scare Tactics and Tremors.

The Destroyer
12-28-2003, 09:37 AM
Really dumb idea of theirs to drop it for the likes of Scare Tactics and Tremors.
I still can't believe they actually made a series out of the Tremors films...

Kane Knight
12-28-2003, 02:38 PM
I still can't believe they actually made a series out of the Tremors films...

I can.

Mostly because I've read Sci-Fi's intentions: They want to do more terrestrial Sci-Fi. One of the movies cited as an example of what they want to cash in on is the Sixth Sense: "Real World Sci Fi" so to speak. It sells better. Watch Klingons, you're a geek. Say "I see dead people," and you're a pop culture icon.

Sci-Fi wants to make themselves a more mainstream channel. Good thing they chose such a winner of a concept like "Tremors."

Their judgement calls are uncanny. Especially since they were actually BRAGGING about ratings lower than most wrestling shows, which are hardly "mainstream."

They make really, really dumb moves. This is a trend with them. Anyone remember Sliders? One of the best series on TV until they started in on Sci-Fi, where they decided to run with that jackass "Kro-Mag" war line...

The desire to become mainstream, tied with the fact that they know fu</>ck all about smart decisions, leaves me unsurprised that they'd go for a "Tremors" series.

Actually, the thing that most surprises me is that they did so well when they picked up Stargate: SG-1.

Especially when you consider that they just abruptly axed Farscape.

Kane Knight
12-28-2003, 02:41 PM
On a semi-related note, I do like one of their newer serieseseses to an extent. Tracker was pretty cool. Adrian Paul goes from world-wise Duncan MacLeod to na´ve alien "Cole..." :lol:

That and the visuals on the show are really cool. The bad guys are kinda cheesey though.

Seyda
12-29-2003, 03:47 PM
fortunately, SG-1 is primarily Episodic in nature, so you don't really need to see every episode in order or anything. Unlike, say, Bab 5, or even to an extent Farscape. There are references to other planets, species, and events form the past, but generally you won't see many eps where it requires you actually saw previous eps.

Though there are some. A lot of the eps that deal with the Ancients or the Asgard will do that to ya.

Actually, if you really watch the episodes, there is a story line. Obscure maybe to those who only watch it periodically, but it's there. The whole Daniel character is rich in story lines.

Babylon 5, imo, was one of the greatest sci-fi shows ever. A great show with depth.

Kane Knight
12-29-2003, 04:29 PM
Actually, if you really watch the episodes, there is a story line. Obscure maybe to those who only watch it periodically, but it's there. The whole Daniel character is rich in story lines.

Babylon 5, imo, was one of the greatest sci-fi shows ever. A great show with depth.

Yes, wow, there's a storyline. Who woulda thougth a TV show had one?

Sorry, that was just totally irrelevant to what I said.

Though after watching the Matrix movies, I do appreciate that a storyline might shock someone. :p

Ian
12-29-2003, 07:41 PM
Children play nicely now.

Yes there are storylines which are mentioned throughout, but every episode is a different " Lets go through the stargate and free these less technologically advanced alien's from their oppresive rulers and then have dinner with them " story.

Also Seaquest DSV had a lot of depth.

El Vaquero de Infierno
12-30-2003, 12:29 PM
SG-1 kicks some ass.

Richard Dean Anderson is the man. Cracks me up evey time.

We have a load of the videos at home. :cool:

Kane Knight
01-06-2004, 10:58 PM
Yes there are storylines which are mentioned throughout, but every episode is a different " Lets go through the stargate and free these less technologically advanced alien's from their oppresive rulers and then have dinner with them " story.

Hence the whole "episodic nature."

Almost every show has storylines throughout. Star Trek: TNG had a story arc that included the first 2 eps and the last 2 eps and precious little else (though it could be argued that any of Q's interventions would be part of that arc), but it was one of the least continuous-feeling series in sci fi. On the other end of the spectrum, Bab 5 sometimes came close to bordering the realm of the "serial."

There's something to be said about both kinds of storytelling: In TV, it's nice to be able to just pick up a show from pretty much anywhere. On the other hand, some genres take this to an extreme. Just look at Sitcoms and how everything always seems to revert to normal in 30 minutes. On the other hand, a long term storyline and plot can be really rewarding, and can keep interest going for more than a single episode.

However, SG-1 is a far cry from that continuous feel. Yes, there are some great side-plots and story arcs. I love Carter's "Tok'Ra" arc, from becoming an unwilling host to Jolanar (SP) to her father becoming a host for Selmek (Again, SP) and becoming an integral part in the fight against the Go'auld and the Stargate "family." I like O'Neill's involvement with the Asgard, from meeting with them after his brain was filled with creamy Ancienty goodness to the revalation that he represented a significant advancement in human evolution, so much so that the Asgard protected his DNA... Teal'c's adaptation to his new home is one of the cooler ones, too. The Teal'c Character himself is pretty fu</>cking awesome. I mean, it takes balls to take arms against your own GODS.

Kane Knight
01-16-2004, 03:22 PM
Found some info on the new SG series...And the end of SG-1...

DECEMBER 7, 2003

A brand new team of explorers step through the Stargate this summer, as MGM and The Sci-Fi Channel launch Stargate Atlantis, the long-awaited spin-off series. Now, solid info on the new show's characters and premise have come to light, thanks to casting material obtained by FilmJerk.com and confirmed by GateWorld.

Here's how the site's report describes the premise of Atlantis:


"Stargate: Atlantis" follows an international team of scientists and military personnel representing Earth who have ventured to a newly discovered and abandoned Ancient City on a distant planet in the Pegasus Galaxy. From there, they encounter a whole new Stargate network that leads to numerous human populated worlds. They will also come to face a sinister new enemy called the Wraith who is even more powerful than the Ancients who were originally being sought.
The new team will be comprised of at least three regulars, including:

Major John Sheppard: "A gifted military pilot, posted at McMurdoch Air Force Base because it's the only place they will let him fly; Sheppard once defied a direct order and flew his helicopter to rescue two Rangers trapped behind enemy lines. Though people might see a good-ol' boy exterior he is also a closet mathematical genius. He has a wry sense of humor and likes to pretend he's not as smart as he really is.

"Most of the time a perfect gentlemen -- who tries his best to be charming -- when he's pushed to fight he can be an absolute animal with single-minded purpose. He distrusts authority and always goes with his gut letting his strong sense of common sense morality lead his actions. The character is listed as being between 35 and 40 years old."

Mikala: "Beautiful and soulful, she is a native of [the] post-apocalyptic of her family to the Wraith. Despite her youth, she has become somewhat of a leader to her people. Initially seen as a love interest for Sheppard, she joins our team's effort to defeat our common enemy in the Wraith and their budding romance becomes playful sexual tension as they focus on their mission.

"She proves herself early on to be a surprisingly scrappy fighter, a survivor under any circumstances and an invaluable source of knowledge about the people and worlds we will be visiting. The producers are looking for an actress of any ethnicity for the role, which is listed as being between 20 and 25 years old."

In a surprise turn of events, Dr. Elizabeth Weir will indeed be in the new series, according to the report -- but is being recast by the studio. The role was originally portrayed by Jessica Steen in the SG-1 Season Seven finale, "The Lost City" (airing in early 2004). Weir is described thusly


beware of spoilers for "The Lost City" and SG1:





"Described as 'attractive, brilliant, and the master of five languages,' this 35-year-old started out as a critic of government spending on the military. But she ultimately decided the best way to fight the establishment was to join it and change what she could from within by brokering peace and being a voice of reason to whoever would listen. She worked behind the scenes for the U.S. government as a high level international negotiator for years before being offered command of the Stargate Program by the new President. Now, she has been given the opportunity to lead an international team through the gate to a new galaxy on a grand mission to save all of humanity and she is not one to turn that challenge down."



END STARGATE SG1 Spoiler



Keep in mind that this list of characters is not necessarily complete. More details should be forthcoming.

The report also indicates that John Smith, another of Stargate SG-1's long-time executive producers, will join the new show to executive produce alongside Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper. Stargate Atlantis begins production in early 2004, and is expected to premiere with a 2-hour movie event in June on The Sci-Fi Channel.

I'm copying it directly from the SG-1 forums at Alderac, so formatting and whatnot may be an issue.

PoisonIvy
01-16-2004, 03:28 PM
I DON'T WANT A NEW STARGATE! :cry:

Kane Knight
01-17-2004, 03:16 PM
I agree.

Plus, this sounds like another weak spinoff (Stargate SG-1: Crusade, so to speak) from a great series. I guess we couldn't have expected them to come up with an idea worthy of a spinoff...

Kane Knight
02-09-2004, 11:37 PM
I'm also not totally impressed with most of the recent episodes. Evolution 1+2 were cool, but I haven't really gotten into a lot of the plot of late.

Kane Knight
02-09-2004, 11:43 PM
The new enemy is pretty cool though.

Too bad they keep reminding me of power rangers episodes.

Sin Harvest
02-11-2004, 02:17 PM
I still can't believe they actually made a series out of the Tremors films...

Your kidding right?!?!!?! How the shit does that work?!!!!!

SG-1 kicks ass, that "groundhog day" epsiode owns!

Sephiroth
02-11-2004, 03:26 PM
I watched it alot, i think the eps are really cool, better story then the movie IMO.

Kane Knight
02-11-2004, 03:40 PM
Your kidding right?!?!!?! How the shit does that work?!!!!!

SG-1 kicks ass, that "groundhog day" epsiode owns!

He's not kidding. Tremors: The Series is on right before stargate SG-1 on Friday nights. I've never caught more than a minute or two of it thiankfully, so I can't tell you how it works (Though I imagine poorly).

The ep you're talking about is indeed awesome. "Window of Opportunity." Saw it Monday night. one of two shows I think denote references to MASH, incidentally (The golf Balls into the Wormhole...). The other one is when they name the Sargeant/Technician who operates the gate. His name is Walter, much like Watler "Radar" O'Reilley, who he bears a passing resemblence too, as well.

Anyways, it's really fun watching O'Neill and Teal'c flip out after so many cycles. And it has one of the greatest quotes...

Jack: What kind of archaeologist carries a weapon?

Daniel: Ummmmm...I do...

Sin Harvest
02-11-2004, 04:58 PM
Jack: What kind of archaeologist carries a weapon?

Daniel: Ummmmm...I do...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jack: .........Bad example.

He says that a lot in that episode.

Carter: Sir, we haven't been to P2X329.
Jack: Yes we have. (to Daniel) No we haven't, thats what you were gonna say.
Daniel: Of course thats what I was gonna say.
Jack: ...Bad example.

Jack: Come on General, look at Teal'c, does this look like the face of a crazy man?!
(Teal'c looks at Jack and then General)
Jack: ...Bad example.

:lol: :lol:

The Destroyer
02-11-2004, 05:00 PM
The new enemy is pretty cool though.

Too bad they keep reminding me of power rangers episodes.
I assume you're somewhat ahead of us episode wise, so I'm not even going to ask. :p

We've just got to the point where they kill someone off (in case people haven't seen it)...

El Vaquero de Infierno
02-13-2004, 11:19 AM
Major John Sheppard: Though people might see a good-ol' boy exterior he is also a closet mathematical genius. He has a wry sense of humor and likes to pretend he's not as smart as he really is.

Except for the whole "mathematical genius" bit, that character sounds a lot like Colonel O'Neill