Is the tag team scene dead?

[BigDaddyCool]

Well?

I mean Raw has La Reistance, and Smackdown has the Dudleys, and no other teams are anything to write home to mom about. Should the scene and therefore titles be desolved?

[KayfabeMan]

I think that the whole tag scene could have been picked up a long time ago, but for some reason, WWE chose / continues to choose not to do it. IMO, the last real team WWE had was Billy & Chuck, and after their split, it all went downhill.

They lost B&C, split 3MW, and cut any chance of any teams other than the two BDC mentioned. Just like when ECW and WCW went out. There were many great tag teams there, and WWE messed up all of the possibilities. The FBI (Guido & Mamaluke), The Mamalukes, and Nova and Chetti (and others) were all great teams that could have had an impact on WWE, but weren't allowed to.

Even to today - it's like they have something against tag wrestling :(

[Anybody Thrilla]

Raw has La Resistance (great team), Hurricane and Rosey (whom a heel turn would help IMMENSELY), Rhyno and Tajiri (whom I don't care about).....and I guess that <i>is</i> about it. Hmm.

I would hate to see the titles dissolved all together, but for the most part, you're right. Tag team wrestling needs some sort of rejuvination.

I remember back in the day when the titles actually meant something and there were people who were <i>only</i> tag team wrestlers. The Hart Foundation, the Rockers, Demolition, L.O.D.....that sort of deal. Where the hell did it all start to go downhill?

I figure the last time tag wrestling was hot was around the TLC match craze. Since then, it's been a whole bunch of worthless worthlessness for the most part.

You know, I think Jindrak and Cade were a good team. I'd like to see them reform, even thought they obviously won't now. On top of that, there are so many people who are doing absolutely nothing on the roster right now. I'm not a fan of just throwing people together in tag teams for the hell of it, but I think they could find some sort of a diamond in that rough if they really wanted to.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, what was up with Kidman and London. They existed like 2 weeks before breaking up.

[loopydate]

Also, what was up with Kidman and London. They existed like <s>2 weeks</s> eight months before breaking up.
Also, tag wrestling (like everything else) is cyclical. There was a phenomenal tag division in the late 1980s (Hart Foundation, Rockers, Demolition, Strike Force, Fabulous Rougeau Brothers, British Bulldogs, etc.) Then there was a lull during the 1990s before things picked back up again at the turn of the century with the whole Hardys/E&C/Dudleys thing.

The first downward step on the current tumble for the division was when the Dudleys, Acolytes, and Hardys were separated at the first brand extension. This forced them into a lot of awkward team-ups that didn't work out. They remedied that by re-uniting all of those teams, but the damage had been done.

Business could pick back up if they could give us some legit teams with real tag team gimmicks.

You already have:

Dudley Boyz
La Resistance
The FBI
Basham Brothers
Hurricane and Rosey (they need a team name, then they're good)

Rene and Kenzo (give them a team name and a tandem finisher, and they're set)
Rhyno and Tajiri (ditto)

Remember, when Billy & Chuck first got together, it was just a pairing of Billy Gunn and Chuck Palumbo. It wasn't until they started wearing matching attire and became a "unit" that the team took off.

[BigDaddyCool]

I know what will fiz this...Headcheese.

[The CyNick]

Its been dead on RAW for a really long time, maybe since the brand extension

SD was carried by their tag division in 02/03, but thats been dead since they took the titles of WGTT.

So yeah, its dead.

[John la Rock]

BRING BACK E & C and the 5 second poses........problem solved for Raw

[Corkscrewed]

The tag scene is actually the easiest to build up IMO, but they don't try. Which is sad. So it's dead, but it can be revived. Hell... I could revive it.

[Innovator]

The tag scene is actually the easiest to build up IMO, but they don't try. Which is sad. So it's dead, but it can be revived. Hell... I could revive it.
and I could've managed game 4 better

[Aussie Skier]

I think that the whole tag scene could have been picked up a long time ago, but for some reason, WWE chose / continues to choose not to do it. IMO, the last real team WWE had was Billy & Chuck, and after their split, it all went downhill.

They lost B&C, split 3MW, and cut any chance of any teams other than the two BDC mentioned. Just like when ECW and WCW went out. There were many great tag teams there, and WWE messed up all of the possibilities. The FBI (Guido & Mamaluke), The Mamalukes, and Nova and Chetti (and others) were all great teams that could have had an impact on WWE, but weren't allowed to.

Even to today - it's like they have something against tag wrestling :(

ahhh :wtf: quit with the acronyms! :D

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is how I would build-up the RAW World Tag Team Division:

Eric Bsichoff comes out on RAW and states that now he's got his power as GM back, we're going ot see a lot of weight being thrown around on RAW. He tells us how Edge has won more IC Titles than Benoit, how he won the Triple Threat, how Edge has won a King of the Ring tournament, how Edge is a 10-time World Tag Team Champion and a former WWE Tag Team Champion. Bischoff states that since Benoit doesn't want to work co-operatively with Edge, Benoit is now removed as Edge's partner, and Edge can choose a new partner for his reign as an 11-time World Tag Team Champion. Edge chooses his brother Christian, and with Tyson Tomko as their "Problem Solver" we have a good run with Team Awesomeness.

As for challengers, we have Hurricane get annoyed with himself, and we see him and Rosey start up as a new heel agency. Hurricane dresses in black & a very, very dark green, while Rosey dresses in black & red. We see Rosey adopt as top-rope Splash as a finishing move, often setup with his "Ring-Around-the-Rosey" version of the Catatonic. Hurricane still uses his "Gleaming Tyranny" (crappy name, but oh well) version of the shining wizard, and the Eye of the Hurricane )which could get a name change to something like "Path of the Hurricane", since "The Eye" seems to refer to peace), the Hurri-Kick and maybe on occasion the Vertebreaker. I can also see The Hurricane with a new submission move. As a tag team, they have their current team maneuvers, but I would love to see a double splash from opposite corners of the ring, or Hurricane stand on Rosey's shoulders when they're at the top rope, and have Hurricane hit the Overcast, followed by a devastating splash by Rosey, or Hurricane could hit a crossbody, or a splash of his own, just as long as the moves flow onto each other (maybe Hurricane could spalsh one guy, while Rosey could splash the other).

Rhyno & Tajiri don't get a tag team name, but they're also kept as credible singles wrestlers. They're whole gimmick is that they're dangerous, and can hold their own, and the ability to get assistance from an equally dangerous partner is a plus. Rhyno is built-up like the rampaging mammal, while Tajiri is built-up like the stealthy reptile. Tajiri's kicks are sold like they're stab wounds, and the Tarantula is billed like it's been outlawed in Japanese wrestling. Rhyno's moves are sold like Batista's Sit-Down Powerbomb, and The Gore is practically unstoppable. A good double team maneuver for these guys is to have Tajiri hit the Buzzsaw Kick on the guy when Rhyno hits The Gore. The wrestler that takes this move basically sells it like they're dead. You could even have a guy take this move and sell it for like minutes when Rhyno or Tajiri comes back for the pin. Attire-wise these guys are pretty much different, but maybe Tajiri could get a "T" in the same font as Rhyno's "R". They're referred to as the tank and buzzsaw tag team, simply as Tajiri cuts as Rhyno demolishes, and these guys should be pushed as credible enough so that a Kane vs Rhyno & Tajiri match should be a Kane/The Undertaker match in terms of psychological intensity.

Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit feud with Edge & Christian for a while (I think Edge & Christian could pull out a credible Double Spear). The Crippler Corssface/Walls of Jericho move could be given a name (like let's say "The Canadian Walls" or "The Lion Crippler", and maybe we could see a Diving Headbutt/Lionsault tag team finisher brought out on occasion. Other than that, Jericho & Benoit use their wrestling talent & experience to get over as a tag team.

Ric Flair & Dave Batista use the Evolution name, and maybe wear matching Evolution attire when they have tag matches together. Basically their style revolves around how Batista & Ric Flair are two world class wrestlers, who practically have the match won att he start of the match, and use psychology and dominance to pick up wins. If that isolated guy makes the tag, though, the badass babyface comes in and does a lot of fast-hitting damage to the past & present of Evolution. Something special I would like to see in this tag team, would be for Batista to lay out one or both guys with a Sit-Down Powerbomb, then for Ric Flair to come off the top rope with a knee drop/fist drop combo (the knee hits the closest guy, and the fist hits the furhter wrestler). This sort of gives us the message that Ric Flair has been waiting thirty years for this man Batista to come along, and now he has he can finally hit the move he's been trying to for pretty much a large portion of his career.

William Regal & Eugene Dinsmore have nothing better to do, so why not pair them together? Basically either guy can play the face in jeoporady rather easily, and have either the babyish antics of Eugene come to the rescue, or the psyched up Regal hit the ring with ferocious tenacity. The Regal Stretch is protected by Eugene for a submission win, and pretty much any wrestling icon's finishng move is used by Eugene (submission or pinfall). If things get rough, Regal has the brass knuckles, and Eugene can hulk-up on occasion. Eugene adopts William Regal's red & blue trunks that we wore as a tag team with Lance Storm (William regal wears them, too) and both guys come out with their own classic Eugene-style ring-jacket, with with "Eugene" or "William" written on the back. As for a team name, I think announcing them as "William & Eugene" sounds very Brittish for some reason. "Regal & Dinsmore" roles off the tongue. As for tag team moves, I can see an aeroplane spin into William Regal's "Union Jack" move. Same with a Stunner/Union Jack finisher. I can also just see moves like a double atomic drop (Eugene from the inverted position, and Regal form the regular position), and a "Double Regal Stretch". The possibilities are endless, though.

Now onto the most dominant tag team on RAW. Maybe because they are the only dominant tag team on RAW, La Resistance. Basically keep them as they are, but have them use both the Bon Jour and Au Reviour as finishing moves. Have them pull out a lot of double team moves. Maybe give both guys a credible move of their own as well.

Chuck Palumbo & The A-Train could team together. Call them something like "The Bischoff Connection", have them basically live to serve Eric Bischoff & Jonathan Coachman. Give them matching attire, a shared entrance theme, capturing A-Train's gimmick and Chuck Palumbo's essence. Have them use assisted tag team manuevers to win matches. Examples are a Superkick/Scissors Kick move, an A-Bomb (De-Railer) with Chuck Palumbo maybe getting behind A-Train and lifting the opponent's legs up during the move, while sitting down with The A-Train. I can see these two actually being an entertaing tag team, basically garnishing the "Bischoff's bitches" heel heat, and when they eventually turn face having some entertaining promos.

Val Venis & Gene Snitsky would be the last guys on the list (I think). Val Venis could return and say he's done with Kane's crap. Snitsky beat Val Venis in a match, which is what Venis is in the business for, Kane whacks him with a steel chair and puts him on the shelf. Venis & Snitsky become huge heels, and wrestle probably every second or third week in the tag team division. Maybe you could have Lita as their valet? I can see both these guys wearing black trunks with either "Venis" or "Snitsky" printed on them in eithe rpruple (Venis) or white (Snitsky) writing. They come off as the on and off tag team that need each other, simply as Venis never got noticed on his own, as well as using Snitsky as a weapon against Kane while Snitsky needs direction, and needs someone to carry him around when it comes to promos (not a storyline thing, but you know, Venis is the veteran, and Sntisky is new). They could be entertaining. Venis shouldn't lose his pornstar gimmick by the way, he should just be booked more seriously, and more of a user of women/sleazy bastard. Snitsky kills babies, and Venis destroys women's decency, does it come anymore heelish?

I'll do SmackDown! later, but basically RAW is just setup with teams that decide they are going to be lost in the shuffle as singles wrestlers, and decide to make their carvings with each other, as a tag team that utilizes each others strengths and weaknesses to try and build an ultimate tag team formula.

There are teams like Tyson Tomko & Steven Richards and Shelton Benjamin & Rodney Mack that are possible to create, but they aren't really necissary to the division.

[Lara Emily]

So Edge the guy who walked out of the match gets to decide? You know despite Benoit winning the match and stuff.

As for the rest well your "Bischoff Connection" just says it all :wtf:

[Mr. Nerfect]

So Edge the guy who walked out of the match gets to decide? You know despite Benoit winning the match and stuff.

As for the rest well your "Bischoff Connection" just says it all :wtf:

That's what makes heels hateable, they get their way in unfair situations a lot of the time. Benoti would then chase "his" titles with a passion. Think John Cena & Booker T, except with Benoit having a reason to be passionate about tracking his belts.

[Molly fan 25]

The problem is the WWE killed the division then tried to revive it by putting back all the teams they split up, and the teams just didn't have what they once had. Instead of putting popular singles wrestlers together or old tag team partners the WWE needs to promote some of these mid and low carders and bring them up and actually give them a reason that they're teaming, get people to care about them. If the WWE does that then the division will be revived.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The problem is the WWE killed the division then tried to revive it by putting back all the teams they split up, and the teams just didn't have what they once had. Instead of putting popular singles wrestlers together or old tag team partners the WWE needs to promote some of these mid and low carders and bring them up and actually give them a reason that they're teaming, get people to care about them. If the WWE does that then the division will be revived.

That is an excellent point. I think the WWE could really use a "landmark" team on either brand, though. RAW could have Edge & Christian while SmackDown! has The Dudleys. The other teams then flood in together.

BTW, is it just me or is the last tag team to debut together the Basham Brothers? Why not just have Seven & developement talent debut togther with Synn as their manager? Why not have Mohammad Hassan & Shawn Daivari debut as a tag team on SmackDown!, and have them talk about how they are sick of seeing teams like The FBI, Funaki & Akio (pair them up, give them something to do), The Basham Brothers, Luther Reigns & Mark Jindrak & Los Guerreros pledge allegiance to pathetic countries, and now they're here to prove a point that not only are they more diplomatic than the entire roster, they are also more patriotic and moe athletically gifted. It sounds like La resistance all over again, but hopefully they utilize Magnus & Daivari's SUPERB wrestling skills. A feud with Kurt Angle & Eddie Guerrero would be great, IMO.

[SuperSlim]

aight... what they need to do is really pair up two people. Not necesairly two main stars together and work form their but two midcarders, maybe one upper midcarder and mid mid or lower mid.

I mean look at Road Dogg and Billy. Separate they were nothin. Noone really cared about them. Then they paired up and it was odd at first but they continued to do more tag matches. They began to become noticed. The New Age Outlaws soon was born. And after that those two were highly recognizable. Then again that was when the tag division still had a flame in it.

Nowadays we got the same played out Dudleys. I just say disband the Dudleys or somethin. I'm sure that if WWE were to look on either the Raw Brand or SD! brand they can find some wrestlers in there that they can pair up for their shows and try them out. But not just for a one time deal or a few times. Keep it going. What they are missing are solid tag teams. It's like with Kidman and London. They paired them up and they were beginnin to look good. They got hte matching attire and tag straps. They were really beginnin to go somewhere then what do they do? They split them. Now what? I mean we got Kenzo and Rene. And the only tag team I can see on the SD! roster right now are the Dudleys. I can't think of any now.

Then on Raw now Benoit and I guess Edge hold the tag straps. At least we do have one solid tag team in La Res, then we also have Hurricane and Rosey. I was thinkin that Rhyno and Tajiri were gonna get to go somewhere but now that looks to be up in the air. Then there is Eugene and Regal, but I really don't think that team can last that long. Although Raw has more recognizable tag teams the fact is what are they doin with them? They are on the wrong show. They are on teh Triple H show and that is what is killin the tag division on Raw. On SD! there just aren't many tag teams there and that is what kills it there. Oh yeah there are The Bashams but where are they?

I really would hate to see the tag division fold cause that was always some exciting stuff there. Something needs to be done and quickly before it becomes a forgotten art.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Also, tag wrestling (like everything else) is cyclical. There was a phenomenal tag division in the late 1980s (Hart Foundation, Rockers, Demolition, Strike Force, Fabulous Rougeau Brothers, British Bulldogs, etc.) Then there was a lull during the 1990s before things picked back up again at the turn of the century with the whole Hardys/E&C/Dudleys thing.


I thought the tag division was very entertaining in the early 90's. Legion of Doom, Natural Disasters, Nasty Boyz, Money Inc.

[Mr. Nerfect]

aight... what they need to do is really pair up two people. Not necesairly two main stars together and work form their but two midcarders, maybe one upper midcarder and mid mid or lower mid.

I mean look at Road Dogg and Billy. Separate they were nothin. Noone really cared about them. Then they paired up and it was odd at first but they continued to do more tag matches. They began to become noticed. The New Age Outlaws soon was born. And after that those two were highly recognizable. Then again that was when the tag division still had a flame in it.

Nowadays we got the same played out Dudleys. I just say disband the Dudleys or somethin. I'm sure that if WWE were to look on either the Raw Brand or SD! brand they can find some wrestlers in there that they can pair up for their shows and try them out. But not just for a one time deal or a few times. Keep it going. What they are missing are solid tag teams. It's like with Kidman and London. They paired them up and they were beginnin to look good. They got hte matching attire and tag straps. They were really beginnin to go somewhere then what do they do? They split them. Now what? I mean we got Kenzo and Rene. And the only tag team I can see on the SD! roster right now are the Dudleys. I can't think of any now.

Then on Raw now Benoit and I guess Edge hold the tag straps. At least we do have one solid tag team in La Res, then we also have Hurricane and Rosey. I was thinkin that Rhyno and Tajiri were gonna get to go somewhere but now that looks to be up in the air. Then there is Eugene and Regal, but I really don't think that team can last that long. Although Raw has more recognizable tag teams the fact is what are they doin with them? They are on the wrong show. They are on teh Triple H show and that is what is killin the tag division on Raw. On SD! there just aren't many tag teams there and that is what kills it there. Oh yeah there are The Bashams but where are they?

I really would hate to see the tag division fold cause that was always some exciting stuff there. Something needs to be done and quickly before it becomes a forgotten art.

I agree, the tools are there, but the WWE doesn't seem to want ot use them. Billy Kidman & Paul London were great together, and I hope we see a Cage Match between the two as soon as London returns, only for London not to enter the cage, and talk about how Kidman has his spine again. They can win the titles and call themselves "The Shooting Stars" which Michael Cole can remind us is in bad taste, and they can both dress in Kidman's new black attire. London can hit both the 450 Splash and The London Calling as finishing mvoes, with a similar effect as Kidman's SSP.

BTW, your point about The New Age Outlaws is interesting. You had Billy Gunn start off with his "brother" Bart Gunn as a successful tag team that appeared to be very similar in looks, etc. Then you had Billy Gunn team up with a guy who only matched him attitude-wise, with equally as great results. Then you have Billy tag with a guy that had no direction in the WWE, and gave them similar attire, hairstyles and a manager and they were the greatest tag team possibly since the roster split. Is it just me, or is Billy Gunn a tag team icon? I really think he should be used ot create another tag team on SmackDown!, and get it over extremely well. Billy Gunn & Paul London? Billy Gunn & Hardcore Holly? Billy Gunn & Booker T? Billy Gunn & Kenzo Suzuki? I have no idea. WWE should just try BG & Hardcore Holly and see how far they run together.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

aight... what they need to do is really pair up two people. Not necesairly two main stars together and work form their but two midcarders, maybe one upper midcarder and mid mid or lower mid.

I mean look at Road Dogg and Billy. Separate they were nothin. Noone really cared about them. Then they paired up and it was odd at first but they continued to do more tag matches. They began to become noticed. The New Age Outlaws soon was born. And after that those two were highly recognizable. Then again that was when the tag division still had a flame in it.

Nowadays we got the same played out Dudleys. I just say disband the Dudleys or somethin. I'm sure that if WWE were to look on either the Raw Brand or SD! brand they can find some wrestlers in there that they can pair up for their shows and try them out. But not just for a one time deal or a few times. Keep it going. What they are missing are solid tag teams. It's like with Kidman and London. They paired them up and they were beginnin to look good. They got hte matching attire and tag straps. They were really beginnin to go somewhere then what do they do? They split them. Now what? I mean we got Kenzo and Rene. And the only tag team I can see on the SD! roster right now are the Dudleys. I can't think of any now.

Then on Raw now Benoit and I guess Edge hold the tag straps. At least we do have one solid tag team in La Res, then we also have Hurricane and Rosey. I was thinkin that Rhyno and Tajiri were gonna get to go somewhere but now that looks to be up in the air. Then there is Eugene and Regal, but I really don't think that team can last that long. Although Raw has more recognizable tag teams the fact is what are they doin with them? They are on the wrong show. They are on teh Triple H show and that is what is killin the tag division on Raw. On SD! there just aren't many tag teams there and that is what kills it there. Oh yeah there are The Bashams but where are they?

I really would hate to see the tag division fold cause that was always some exciting stuff there. Something needs to be done and quickly before it becomes a forgotten art.

:yes: :y: :y:

[SuperSlim]

I think they tried Billy and Hardcore already and well Hardcore just sucked too badly for that idea to work. :nono:

[GODSON]

No,

TNA got AMW,Naturals,Team Canada,XXX,Kazarian/Shane,Batts/Clark,and 3LK. By the way, Outsiders is coming back.

[Londoner]

^...erm i think were talking about WWE.

[big_bluto]

Well?

I mean Raw has La Reistance, and Smackdown has the Dudleys, and no other teams are anything to write home to mom about. Should the scene and therefore titles be desolved?
Is the tag team scene dead?

Yes.:nono:

Should the scene/titles be desolved?

No.


It's a sad thing that WWE doesn't seem to want to do anything with the tag titles, but they're so undervalued just now, and will remain so as long as they start making impromptu tag teams like Booker T & RVD, who win the titles so that they can appear at Wrestlemania.

The talent is there.
They just need to tell people that they are going to be a tag team for a year, and then make them fight for the belt.
Give them storylines, make them show desire to be the best tag team, and give them time.
That's all it takes, but apparently that's too much effort for a product that is jaded and tired and needs the lift.:nono:

[Dazz]

I dont read what most of you retards have to say so forgive me if its already been said. The last time the tag titles were good was when Undertake and Big Show, Rock n Sock, the Acolytes, Edge and Christian, Kane and X Pac, the Dudleys were all competing for them.

[ralphwiggum]

Yes. And you're fucking 3 years late asking this question.

[Fox]

The problem with the Tag Team division is that there aren't enough tag teams to cover two brands.

The WWE/World Heavyweight and Intercontinental/United States titles are all good and well because there are more than enough guys to fill the slots in those general areas. However, there is a REASON why the Cruiserweight and Womens Championships are on seperate brands, and that's because there are limited wrestlers for those divisions.

If there were two seperate Cruiserweight divisions for each Brand, it would probably be about 4-5 guys in each division, which would create monotony and a "dead" feeling toward the title scene. The same goes for the Women's Title.

The Tag Titles are no different. There are a limited number of tag teams on the roster (as a whole, RAW and SD), and by seperating them in half, it makes for two very boring areas of each show.

There are only three reasonable alternatives to the current situation.

1) Send the Tag Titles to Smackdown and bring back the Hardcore Title on RAW

-Smackdown is the more wrestling based brand, and focus more on actual wrestling than entertainment, so the Tag Titles would fit very well there. Rhyno/Tajiri, La Resistance, and Hurricane/Rosey could be traded to SD for some of SD's more "hardcore" wrestlers, and the Hardcore Title could be brought back to RAW to replace the missing division.

2) HIRE MORE TAG TEAMS!

-The indy scene is filled with great tag teams that are just waiting to enter the spotlight, so why not take advantage of them? If they hired maybe 5 or 6 more tag teams and sporadically introduced them to their respective brands, the tag scene could heat up quite a bit. The problem isn't in quality, the problem is in quantity, and both brands have very limited tag teams.

3) Shoot Vince McMahon

-Cause he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The problem with the Tag Team division is that there aren't enough tag teams to cover two brands.

The WWE/World Heavyweight and Intercontinental/United States titles are all good and well because there are more than enough guys to fill the slots in those general areas. However, there is a REASON why the Cruiserweight and Womens Championships are on seperate brands, and that's because there are limited wrestlers for those divisions.

If there were two seperate Cruiserweight divisions for each Brand, it would probably be about 4-5 guys in each division, which would create monotony and a "dead" feeling toward the title scene. The same goes for the Women's Title.

The Tag Titles are no different. There are a limited number of tag teams on the roster (as a whole, RAW and SD), and by seperating them in half, it makes for two very boring areas of each show.

There are only three reasonable alternatives to the current situation.

1) Send the Tag Titles to Smackdown and bring back the Hardcore Title on RAW

-Smackdown is the more wrestling based brand, and focus more on actual wrestling than entertainment, so the Tag Titles would fit very well there. Rhyno/Tajiri, La Resistance, and Hurricane/Rosey could be traded to SD for some of SD's more "hardcore" wrestlers, and the Hardcore Title could be brought back to RAW to replace the missing division.

2) HIRE MORE TAG TEAMS!

-The indy scene is filled with great tag teams that are just waiting to enter the spotlight, so why not take advantage of them? If they hired maybe 5 or 6 more tag teams and sporadically introduced them to their respective brands, the tag scene could heat up quite a bit. The problem isn't in quality, the problem is in quantity, and both brands have very limited tag teams.

3) Shoot Vince McMahon

-Cause he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

Mr Sunday Night, you just summed up everything I wanted to say, better than I was thinking it. The WWE don't have enough tag teams to really run two tag team divisions, so that's why we should see more of a sport based approach tot he division. If a tag team pick up a win on Velocity, give them a match on SmackDown!. This way you don't have teams like The FBI & The Basham Brothers rotting. Give makeshift tag teams stories. I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Jericho & Steven Richards serve as a tag team, as long as there was motive behind it, or they explained it right.

More tag teams need to be formed in a hurry. That's why I see Eugene Dinsmore & William Regal together in the forseeable future. Rodney Mack should be in a tag team. Maybe with Chuck Palumbo. I can see Chucky P in a "I think I'm black" sort of storyline. This would also give Jazz more storylines in the Women's division. Maven is also not going anywhere, but that could be fixed by puttin ghim in a team with let's say Garrison Cade. I think we should see new tag teams debut together (Like La Resistance did). Mohammad Hassan & Shawn Daivari would make an interesting tag team. I can see Edge & Benoit together as a sort of psychotic Edge tag team that destroy each other as much as their opponents.

The WWE has the tools at their disposal, and their riches can cover anything they can't. Building two tag team divisions of say 8-10 teams isn't that hard.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Here is what I would do with the SmackDown! tag team division. Just like the RAW one, some tag teams may not have much story behind them, some may seem senseless, but the best interest of the tag team division is in mind, and this is an attempt to make the titles as credible as possible.

Rene Dupree & Kenzo Suzuki
Why break up these two? Kenzo's work has actually been rather decent since the tag team, and Dupree gets to show off his B+ talents in the ring in healthy medium doses. Dupree is the youngest man to win a title in the WWE, and I'd like the WWE to make mention of how this team is based on how these guys need each other, as Kenzo's ring skills suffer temporary "blowouts" while Rene is still young, and needs to build up his portfolio before moving up to the big leagues. These two don't need to be buddy-buddy, and you could even have Rene and Hiroko get drunk on wine (and love according to Dupree), and use this to furhter character developement between Suzuki & Dupree. They've got their theme music, and I can see their attires become hybrids of Japanese & French culture. I also wouldn't mind seeing "Cafe de Rene" return with Suzuki singing the background music.

Los Guerreros
Have Eddie & Chavo cross paths, and have them fighting for a similiar goal. This will be the tease for a return, and maybe at Survivor Series the WWE can make it final (or the week before). If Billy Kidman gets picked for Kurt Angle's team at Survivor Series, this would make an interesting way to revive the Los Guerreros tandem. Have them as the lead challengers to Kidman & London's tag titles (more on that later). Give them back either their "We, lie, we cheat, we steal" music, or a new theme (since Eddie has adapted to the theme, and Chavo has his own now). Give them matching Los Guerrero tights, and have them use a lot of innovative tag team strategies. I wouldn't mind seeing them win the tag titles from Kenzo & Rene by removing the champions' tag rope, and thus legally preventing them from tagging. I can see the fans eating that up.

The Shooting Stars
Sometime in the forseeable future, have Kidman cut a promo about how noone cares about him, only to be interupted by Theodore R. Long, who tells us Paul London is returning in a match two weeks on SmackDown!, against Billy Kidman and it will be in a Steel Cage, with the only way to win is to escape the structure. Have all this build-up during the rest of SmackDown! that week, and the rest of the week thereafter. Have the cage come down in the main event on SmackDown! of week three, and have Kidman enter it. Paul London then come sout and addresses Billy Kidman and how he feels he's been treated. Then have Paul London say Kidman is 100% right. Have Paul say these fans were being selfish monsters for pushing Kidman to use a dangerous move, and how London did nothing to help. Have London apologize to Kidman and thank him for the wake-up call. London then asks if Kidman is willing to utilize the rematch clause in their contracts and challenge the WWE Tag Team Champions next week on SmackDown!. Kidman nods and the reformed tag team hugs in the middle of the Steel Cage Match is is not-to-be.

Kidman and London then go on to win the WWE Tag Team Championship, with stereo Shooting Star Presses. When addressed in a backstage interview about why they brought out the move they labelled last week as "dangerous" London tells us that this business is about kicking ass, and doing what you can to get ahead. These fans think Kidman is a coward for not pulling off a SSP? Well being men of the people, you can expect a lot more SSPs from the newly titled "Shooting Stars". Kidman then presents his tag team partner with a new ring jacket design. London wears the new jacket and his ring attire, while Kidman wears his new jazzed up look regularly. Occasionally they wip out Filthy Animal attire, or matching trunks. This gives us an individuality look to the tag team, as well as making them look dangerous and as bonded as possible, as well as making them a heel version of The Rockers so to speak. I can even see Torrie Wilson becomming their valet. Although some people may consider this a face action, I think it could further them as the major heel team of the WWE. Torrie Wilson is desireable, so if you have Billy Kidman get involved in a relationship with her, I think the fans will have that jealousy as well as dislike towards The Shooting Stars.

The Dudleys
At Survivor Series, Heidenreich could lose ot The Undertaker, and Paul Heyman gets attacked by The Undertaker, three men manage to save Heyman from trouble. Bubba Ray, D-Von & Spike realise that although they are together as family, they don't have the direction. Spike Dudley hands the title of "The Boss" to Paul Heyman, who gives Spike direction in the cruiserweight division, and The Dudleys become more ruthless, and start putting women through tables. Maybe we could see a TLC Match between The Dudleys, Los Guerreros & The Shooting Stars. London & Kidman could get heat with Spike Dudley (being cruiserweights), as well as The Dudleys putting Torrie Wilson through a table, and I can see Los Guerreros easily getting heat with both teams, as well as maybe staging a scenario between the two, like Edge & Christian did in 2001.

The Basham Brothers
Give these guys promo time. They have really suffered with the loss of Shaniqua, but I think the addition of Dawn Marie or Synn to their side would be an interesting situation. I liked their gimmick as the brothers that were too close, and too similiar for their own good. Have them play the unpredictable tag team. Give them back the latex tights, and have them use the switching strategy a lot more. Never have these guys lose a match decisively. If they're in trouble, just have their valet/Basham Brother nail an opponent one of their "toys". I can also see them beating each other up after a match in a "tough love" scenario. The valet could cop a beating as well. Have more of a persoanlity drift between Doug & Danny show up. Have Doug all about success and a powerful stance on wrestling, and Danny all about kicking ass. Have both appear equally as capable and as intelligent as each other though. And most importantly, move them away from Velocity on a weekly basis.

Garrsion Cade & Mark Jindrak
Garry C isn't doing anything, so why not repair these two as prodigies under Kurt Angle. Sort of the reverse version of Team Angle, with a former tag team using Kurt Angles guidence, instead of Benjamin & Haas who debuted with it, and then broke off on their own. Give Garrison Cade & Mark Jindrak their old entrance theme and music, and give them matching attire, with their names on it. Have Garrison Cade use the Flying Elbow, along with Jindrak. A Double Flying Elbow would make an interesting tag team move, especially if they hit it at the same time. Maybe also have them use a Double Mark of Excellence?

Scotty 2 Hotty & Shannon Moore
I don't know why, but I can see these two with a tough punk and a dancing idiot tag team. Have them serve as an on and off tag team, and give them a boost when the tag division needs some different action. Otherwise keep them in the cruiserweight division.

Charlie Haas & Rico
A tag team name for these two would be good. I can see a double submission hold being a good finisher for these guys. Keep Miss Jackie as their valet as the only face diva on SmackDown!. Give them matching (or contrasting) colour themes in their attire. Have Charlie Haas remain credible, and keep him strong in the United States Division, with Rico later serving as a manger, and Miss Jackie as a valet.

Hardcore Holly & Billy Gunn
A tag team name, and matching attire is the only thing this team lacks. Give them high-impact tag team moves, and allow them to pick up some big wins. They can be the guys who feel their chance should be now, and too many useless junkies are coming into the WWE. They team up because in the tag division they can take out two guys at a time. Give them a matching entrance theme and titantron. Have Billy Gunn finally lose the "Mr. Ass" gimmick.

Tough Enough
Matt Cappotelli & John Hennigan come in claiming they are the young guys. Basically they make for a good feud with HH & BG. They claim they are the real stars of Tough Enough. Because they woul dbe brought in together, they could eaisly have matching ring attire, and entrance themes, etc.

Al Snow & Tough Enough 4 Winner
I just think this would make an interetsing team. Al Snow wants to capatilize on this guy's popularity, protect him, and get back into action with a tough partner at the same time. It could be greed, and father's pride at the same time. I really think is could be interetsing if done right.

Brian Donnovich & Bill DeMott
I think that's how you spell the guy that go the developemental deal's name. I htink a feud between these tow guys and Al Snow & TE4 Winner could be interesting. If Bill DeMott doesn't want to return, you can have Matt Morgan come in and team with Brian (or feud with him).

Rob Van Dam & Rey Mysterio
Give them a new entrance theme, and a recognizeable tag team finisher and they're right.

John Bradshaw Layfield & Orlando Jordan
These two could make an interesting tag team on and off. I can't see them doing much in the division, however. But they could make for some decent matches.

[The Mackem]

Tag teams that I would sign:

The S-A-T
The Briscoe Brothers
Backseat Boys
Stampede Bulldogs

2 go to each brand and already the tag team division looks a little better.

[Transplant]

They need to stop looking to pair random guys up, because they're doing this while trying to keep the gimmicks seperate.

For example, Rene Dupree and Kenzo Suzuki. The one thing that they have in common, the writers arent exposing it enough. Both Dupree and Suzuki speak too much english for their own good. Its a common fact that speaking in another language can get you over as a face OR a heel. A good face example is Eddie Guerrero, and a good heel example is La Res. Now, Dupree and Suzuki could be at an advantage here, because they speak different languages, which could lead into things like them not understanding each other, but still look impressive by powering opponents.

They could also do something with Rhyno and Tajiri, with both of them being in a couple of factions together, but they built them up wrong. They had Rhyno "search" for a tag team partner. They should have given him Tajiri to start off with. Now, they dont really look like a team, rather than just 2 random lower carders put together.

They did Kidman and London well, but really fucked that one up.

They need to make some teams with something in common, and have feuds that don't base around the titles. You dont always need the main tag fued around the titles, for example, the Dudleys and Hardys in 2000, and Hardys/E&C in '99

[The Mackem]

Next time they bring through some OVW'ers they should think about putting a few together and see how they work, like what they did with the Bashams. They don't need to be the best tag team ever, just a tag team will do for now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Chris Cage & Tank Toland wrestle as the tag team "Adrenaline" adown at OVW, I think. Why not bring them in on RAW as either "assistants" to Simon Dean (who was also involved with these guys down in Ohio) or as a fresh babyface tandem on SmackDown!?

[redoneja]

The tag team scene is not dead, its just going througha revamp stage. The current roster of teams includes at least three that are comprised of singles stars(RVD & Mysterio; Kenzo & Dupree; and (for now) Edge & Beniot). IMO this is a very good thing. Anyone remember in the early '80s when Backlund and Morales teamed up? Or what about the team of the Iron Shiek and Nikolai Volkoff? It was just 6 years ago when Austin and the Undertaker were feuding w/ Kane and Mandkind over the tag straps! Anyone ever here of a little known team called The Rock and Sock Connection? Or perhaps the teams of X-Pac and Kane or Big Show and the Undertaker. My point is that a tag division composed of teams that are not strictly tag wrestlers, adds more to the dynamics of feuds and of the production overall. It adds more connections between wrestlers that aren't in a direct singles feud with one another, eliminating "Exhibition" matches

[The Mackem]

Yes but they can only go so far. Teams like LOD, Demolition, NAO etc were purely tag teams and beyond that were nothing. We need more tag teams that beyond that are losers :shifty:

Throwing random guys with each other can only go on for a month or so before their next big push.

[redoneja]

I'm not talking about throwing random guys together, i'm talkign about having singles feuds intertwine for a certain period of time. You still need a tag team division based on solid teams. During the time the teams I mentioned in my first post were together, therw was still numerous CREDIBLE tag teams that could have had believable matches with the dominant "power" teams composed of singles stars