Terrell Owens out for season, playoffs

[DaveWadding]

He might come back if the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl, which they won't with T.O. on crutches.

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride, eh?

[The Outlaw]

ahahaha

FLY HIGH EAGLES FLY ON TO VICTORY!!!

[Boomer]

FALCONSSSSSSSSSS

Seriously though. I am hoping for another Eagles collapse.

Which would then result in another Falcons Superbowl collapse :(

[Innovator]

Fuck, now WHEN the Eagles lose they'll have an excuse

[BCWWF]

They will still make the Super Bowl, who do you think is going to beat them in the NFC? The Packers? The Falcons? They are still a defensive team, and they should still walk through the NFC.

[The Answer]

They will still make the Super Bowl, who do you think is going to beat them in the NFC? The Packers? The Falcons? They are still a defensive team, and they should still walk through the NFC.

:y:

[The Outlaw]

LOL no

[The Outlaw]

Pinkston is also hurt.

That leaves...Freddie Mitchell? :lol:

Their leading receiver now is probably their runningback :lol:

FLY ON FLY ON EAGLES

LETS GO TO/6 FOOT 3/226 LBS/BURNING CORNERBACKS/SHREDDING TACKLES/DO THE BIRD/PURE ADRENALINE/4-TIME PRO BOWLER/NFL RECORD 20 RECEPTIONS IN ONE GAME

BURNING CORNERBACKS

SHREDDING TACKLES

FLY ONNNNNN

[BCWWF]

OK, the Packers just lost AT HOME in December (10 degrees without factoring windchill) to an AFC team that won't even make the playoffs. They got killed by the Eagles a few weeks ago, I don't see them beating the Eagles at home. The Falcons are the only team that still has a legit chance is the Falcons, but honestly who are you kidding, the Falcons?

The Vikings have an injury torn roster that includes I think 5 starters right now, aswell as some of the worst linebackers in the league. The Eagles beat the Vikings in the beginning of the season while Moss was healthy and TO only had like three catches. I doubt they do a thing.

Seattle is just plain awful.

St. Louis is just funny how bad they are.

Carolina probably won't make the playoffs, and if they do they don't have enough talent to get past the wildcard this season.

So basically, everybody here is putting their money on the Falcons to represent the NFC in the Superbowl? Excuse me, but :lol:

[Rain Man]

I was at my girlfriend's house when I saw this.... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I was fucking pissed. They say it all depends on how it feels in a couple weeks. If he can't run in like I think 4 weeks than defiently done for the season. But if he can and is fine he SHOULD be back for the Superbowl.. Oh jesus I was playing Madden today with my brother and he was the Falcons and I was the Eagles.. And the Falcons won.... :nono:

But the way the NFC is this year even without TO, the conference is still so bad they should easily get to the Superbowl.

[Rain Man]

Hey BCWWF.. YOUR COOL!

[Rain Man]

TO hasnt done much in the past three games, besides his Touchdown against the Packers he hasn't done much and the Eagles have squeezed out two pretty shitty wins. As long as McNabb and most of all Westbrooke stay healthy they should win right on. Westbrooke has been the big play maker for the Eagles the past two seasons. Last year when he went down late in the season it really hurt the Eagles cause he was our main guy. So with Westbrooke and McNabb healthy I'm not worried.

[Gonzo]

Stats lie. Just because he didn't statistically do anything doesn't mean his precense wasn't felt.

I love how everyone says he won't be back until the Superbowl. Not saying they won't get there but don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[Rain Man]

Oh his presence is most defiently felt. He opens up so much more for every other reciever. But I'm saying Westbrooke has been huge the past three games and has carried the team on each, and can through the playoffs.

[slextremely]

The Eagles BARELY beat Dallas without T.O. they are done if he can't play.

[Rain Man]

The Eagles BARELY beat Dallas without T.O. they are done if he can't play.
What? he went down in I think the 3rd quarter? How can you judge that the eagles are "done" off of 2 quarters? Their offense was not playing good all game and it wasnt because of TO? Dumbass.

[Boomer]

I will not deny how good a defense Philly has. I will say they have lost the NFC Championship because of dropped catches from their recieving core. I have said to my friends all year that the Superbowl was probably going to be Eagles-Patriots, but without TO, any team has a better chance. Vick has been defying the odds all year anyway. The best teaam doesn't always win. That's the fun of it.

[OssMan]

Westbrook

[The Icon of Elisim]

Without TO I would pick Atlanta or Carolina, personally

[Crimson]

Woooo Roy Williams with the HIT on Owens. The NFC IS pretty weak , but i'll still be surprised if the Eagles make it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They could still end up making though. They aren't a lock like they where before, but like everyone said, NFC is fucking weak.

I don't know, if the make the Superbowl without TO you are never going to hear the end of it from Philly fans.

And Outlaw, why are such an anti-Eagles fan? Does that Brett Favre play still burn deep inside :(

[The Outlaw]

Oh his presence is most defiently felt. He opens up so much more for every other reciever. But I'm saying Westbrooke has been huge the past three games and has carried the team on each, and can through the playoffs.
And the reason he has been huge is because of TO's presence...:)

Basically I dislike them because of their fans, same reason anyone does. I like McNabb alright, used to be a big TO fan so yeah. What play? The only play I could be upset about was the 4th and 26 or whatever?

[The Outlaw]

So, all season Eagles fan have been all on TO's nuts and saying the reason they are dominating is because of him, but now that he is done for the season they will be ok? If Walker went down I would be worried, and he's nowhere close to TO. I don't understand the people that are downplaying this.

MIAMI :love:

[Loose Cannon]

I agree with Outlaw.

[Triple A]

If the fucking gay Falcons make the Superbowl I will murder football.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If Walker went down I would be worried, and he's nowhere close to TO. I don't understand the people that are downplaying this.Yeah but the Packers aren't as good as the Eagles either. Eagles will probaly still be favored to make it to the NFC Champ game without TO. Thats how bad the NFC sucks.

also Brady > Miami

GOOD NIGHT DOLPHINS

[The Outlaw]

Yeah but the Packers aren't as good as the Eagles either. Eagles will probaly still be favored to make it to the NFC Champ game without TO. Thats how bad the NFC sucks.

also Brady > Miami

GOOD NIGHT DOLPHINS
Really?

I know they aren't as good, but TO is 70% of their offense, with Westbrook being 25% and their other skill players combining for the other 5%. TO has what...14 of McNabb's 29 or 30 TD's? Westbrook has the next most. TO is what they were missing from being a contender. Without him...well we will see what they are without him.

GOOD NIGHT DOLPHINS?

[MoRcHeEbA]

lol @ Brady throwing that int just now giving the phins the ball on their 25 :D

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This always happens with the 'Phis..they will pull out

Pretty funny how you are always rooting againest the Patriots it seems. Oh well, hatersss

[The Outlaw]

Also, VEL, if you have to have your face toward the ball, why was that not called against Mooreland?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

what

[Loose Cannon]

Pass Interference :nono: god I hate officials.

You called A-ROD safe :mad:

[The Outlaw]

WHAT

HAHAHA

[Loose Cannon]

TOCHDOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PHINS

[MoRcHeEbA]

LOL

[The Outlaw]

I dont really hate the Pats, I just love upsets and good games :love:

[Loose Cannon]

I actually hate the Pats. :shifty:

[MoRcHeEbA]

yeah I like the Pats but a good upset is always good :love:

[Loose Cannon]

fuck, Miami is going to blow it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

OH WELL..Patriots iwll probably still pull it out

Dolphins always play the Patriots though though, I don't get why. No matter why its a close game.

[The Outlaw]

Arturo Freeman is going to make a play

WATCH THIS

[Loose Cannon]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Outlaw]

ahahaha

[MoRcHeEbA]

one more int :D game over Brady > Dolphins

[The Outlaw]

:love::love::love::love:

[The Outlaw]

PATS > YOUR MOTHER

[Triple A]

lol wow

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

damn 4 INTs 2nite

UNUSUALLY bad game for Brady. Fucking Dolphins. I still figured the Pats were gonna pull it out though...That "toss up" by Brady fucking killed them.

[Loose Cannon]

that was great. I have some hope for next week now.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL I don't care, you guys can "shit on me" all you want.

Patriots are still better then all of your favorite teams, so whatever, have fun while you can

[Triple A]

What do you mean, some hope. The Jets will win, GUARANTEED. They are 6-0 with Pennington at home. Should be 7-0, but lost that shitty game against the Ravens with Quincy Carter. :mad:

[MoRcHeEbA]

LOL I don't care

[The Outlaw]

What a great game though

[el fregadero]

OK, the Packers just lost AT HOME in December (10 degrees without factoring windchill) to an AFC team that won't even make the playoffs.
You piece of shit.

[Loose Cannon]

great game

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I wonder if the coordinator taking the ND job is gonna fuck the Pats up now though. I hope not, everything was fucking perfect too. Damn, hopefully this was just some classic Dolphins playing the Pats tough stuff. I hope Weis doing "2 jobs" doesnt fuck with the Patriots :mad:

[Innovator]

DAMN, didn't see this coming

[Loose Cannon]

yeah, lol at Pats

great game too.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL I don't care
LOL

[The Outlaw]

OK, the Packers just lost AT HOME in December (10 degrees without factoring windchill) to an AFC team that won't even make the playoffs. They got killed by the Eagles a few weeks ago, I don't see them beating the Eagles at home. The Falcons are the only team that still has a legit chance is the Falcons, but honestly who are you kidding, the Falcons?

The Vikings have an injury torn roster that includes I think 5 starters right now, aswell as some of the worst linebackers in the league. The Eagles beat the Vikings in the beginning of the season while Moss was healthy and TO only had like three catches. I doubt they do a thing.

Seattle is just plain awful.

St. Louis is just funny how bad they are.

Carolina probably won't make the playoffs, and if they do they don't have enough talent to get past the wildcard this season.

So basically, everybody here is putting their money on the Falcons to represent the NFC in the Superbowl? Excuse me, but :lol:
We will see smart guy.

Also :love:@el freg

[Loose Cannon]

I'm not getting cocky with the Jets. I did that with another team in the playoffs and they lost. I'm not saying anything anymore.

[Innovator]

Looks like the road to the Superbowl is going through Pittsburgh

[The Outlaw]

They just almost lost to the Giants. I think the Playoffs are going to be unpredictable myself...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah, Jags probably won't make the playoffs in the AFC but they are still a better team then the Packers. I am not surprised at all that Green Bay lost.

[The Outlaw]

Shut up, the Pats just lost to the Dolphins, do not slam the Pack :'(

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Its one game guys. I still think it's going to be Pitt and Pats in the AFC Championship

[el fregadero]

Jacksonville still has a chance. :'(

[Loose Cannon]

I think Buffalo will sneak in.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It sucks some shitty uninspired team like the Vikings will make it. While an inspired team like the Jags won't

[el fregadero]

The Vikes won't be as bad as Seattle and/or St. Louis making it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow you are right. With the expection of Carolina, Philly, and Atlanta the NFC is just flat out stupid. I know Carolina has a shitty record but they've been "hot." Also, Dan Morgan is a sick fuck and is probably my favorite "non Patriot" in the NFL.

[Triple A]

Yeah fucking St. Louis better not make it. They won't though. They have Philly next week and then the Jets. They are gonna finish 6-10. Terrible.

Panthers will make it hopefully. Hope a real shitty team like the Saints doesn't make it.

[Loose Cannon]

Carolina lost most of their good players too. I should know, since everyone down here tells me that every time the Panthers are brought up. :nono:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Its either Carolina or St. Louis pretty much..isn't it?

[Triple A]

The Saints play @ Carolina in week 17. That game will probably decide the last playoff spot in the NFC.

[Triple A]

The Saints, Panthers, and Rams are all 6-8. The Rams have the hardest schedule. The Panthers are def gonna make it, IMO. All comes down to that last game with the Saints though. If the Saints can somehow win that, they will make the playoffs. Terrible.

[el fregadero]

It will be the worst feeling of all-time if one of those teams makes it with a 7-9 record.

[Triple A]

They are gonna.

[Loose Cannon]

I wouldn't even count out all those 5-9 teams just yet.

[Triple A]

The Giants could still make it if everybody loses every game.

[The Outlaw]

lol yeah NFC is definately weak

But hey, if one of them can get hot in the playoffs, regular season doesn't really matter.

[Mister Sinister]

LOL I don't care, you guys can "shit on me" all you want.

Patriots are still better then all of your favorite teams, so whatever, have fun while you can

Well, that is true...but what do I care, My Team just beat yours!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

to bad about the Lions. Didn't realize they were 5-9.

[Innovator]

Joey Harrington sounded like he was commit suicide during the press conference.

[DaveWadding]

Mike Martz :nono:

[Heyman]

Go Sea Hawks!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kinda wierd timing for Harrington though. He FINALLY has a good game, then after the game he sounds like he is about to kill himself after the loss. Why couldn't he ever had that conference after he played like shit? I'm not saying it did any certain reason or anything just something to think about.

[Loose Cannon]

Wow, basically every team, except San Fran, still has a chance in the NFC. unreal.

[Loose Cannon]

yeah, something like that can destroy a guys confidence.

[Innovator]

One minute left, you have the flu, and you lead your team down the field and score with 8 seconds left, tying the game. Then you're snapper messes up.

Regardless of the outcome of the game, like they said on ESPN Detroit found something out about Harrington, the guy can get down.

[MoRcHeEbA]

The Giants could still make it if everybody loses every game.

You know they would have to stop losing aswell :rofl:

[Innovator]

No, Giants only play well when they are already out of it, or have no possible shot of winning.

Tiki better get a Pro Bowl bid, the man deserves it this season

[BCWWF]

Jesus, there has been two pages of posts tonight.

What team is it that you guys are so confident the Eagles are worse then?

The Falcons? They are the only team I see with a legit chance, but they are stupid and will have to play in Phily to go on.

The Packers? Come on, the only player they have on their whole team is Brett Favre. They have an offense that can be sliced through like hot butter.

The Vikings? Randy Moss probably still wont be 100% and they have one of the worst defenses in the league

The Seahawks? No, just no

The Rams? If you think an aging offensive arsenal is going to beat the Eagles, no.

The Panthers? They probably won't even make the playoffs now. They were hot for a few weeks, then it all blew up. Even if they do make the playoffs they are without some of their best players.


So basically, I am not saying that the Eagles are still hot shit, but there is no team in the AFC that you can currently make an argument that they are better then the Eagles, except maybe the Falcons, but if you do you are gay.

[MoRcHeEbA]

so what you're saying is that you're gonna light my country music award on fire?

[The Outlaw]

lol cheeba

[Y2Ant]

As it stands in the NFC Wildcard, Packers play the Panthers at Lambeau, and Vikings play the Seahawks at the Metrodome, I think I might prefer the Panthers though :(

Vikings have a good shot at winning the NFC North now though, huge game on friday :mad:

Also LOL @ the Patriots

FEAR THE "D"

[The Icon of Elisim]

What team is it that you guys are so confident the Eagles are worse then?
You don't have to better than a team to beat them. Without TO the Eagles are a lot more liable for an upset in the playoffs.


The Panthers? They probably won't even make the playoffs now. They were hot for a few weeks, then it all blew up. Even if they do make the playoffs they are without some of their best players.
Are you retarded? They won 5 straight before losing to Atlanta and have the tie breaker against St Louis and New Orleans. They also barely lost to the second best team in the NFC. The Rams will be 6-10 and the Saints suck.

[VonErich Lives]

Will the Loss of Owens hurt, of course.

But they got there last year w/o him, and they still have their running game that they have been using this year.

I still see them going to at least the NFC championship.

But I must ask, is their a more arrogant coach then Mike Martz, what other coach on more then one occasion has hung a loss on a player and never ever taken blame himself.

The Pats loss does suck, but could be worse... could be 1993 when the 5-11 Pats (well, 4-11 at game time) beat the Phins last game of the year to knock them out of the playoffs.

The Pats play good on the road and away, so while homefield is nice for the fans, it's not like Indy who plays much better in the dome.

[road doggy dogg]

Pinkston is also hurt.

That leaves...Freddie Mitchell? :lol:

Their leading receiver now is probably their runningback :lol:

FLY ON FLY ON EAGLES

LETS GO TO/6 FOOT 3/226 LBS/BURNING CORNERBACKS/SHREDDING TACKLES/DO THE BIRD/PURE ADRENALINE/4-TIME PRO BOWLER/NFL RECORD 20 RECEPTIONS IN ONE GAME

BURNING CORNERBACKS

SHREDDING TACKLES

FLY ONNNNNN

DO THE TO

[RoXer]

Do the Cards still have a chance?

[RoXer]

Just checked, if the Cards win the next two game and Seattle and St. Louis lose the next two, all three teams will be 7-9.

If fucking Denis Greens didn't bench McCowen for 3 games, we would have probly won at least two of them.

[RoXer]

Whoa wait. If we beat Seattle THIS week, and Seattle loses NEXT week, then not only will we have a better record then Seattle, but we also have the tie breaker (better divisional standings).

St. Louis MUST LOSE the next two games because they will finish 6-10 and Arizona MUST WIN for their record to be 7-9.

THE CARDINALS STILL HAVE A CHANCE. DON'T COUNT THEM OUT!

[RoXer]

HOLY CRAP THIS COULD TOTALLY WORK!!!

St. Louis WILL lose to Philly this week, then NY Jets next week.
Seattle WILL lose to Arizona this week, then Atlanta next week.
Arizona WILL beat Seattly this week, then Tampa Bay next week.

I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED. GUNNA GO BUY PLAYOFF TICKETS RIGHT NOW.

[BCWWF]

Just because you don't like the Eagles doesn't mean that the Packers are good

[MoRcHeEbA]

As it stands in the NFC Wildcard, Packers play the Panthers at Lambeau, and Vikings play the Seahawks at the Metrodome, I think I might prefer the Panthers though :(

Vikings have a good shot at winning the NFC North now though, huge game on friday :mad:

Also LOL @ the Patriots

FEAR THE "D"


Vikings play in Seattle if the season were to end today.

[slextremely]

The Falcons will win the NFC, because they have a legit defense, or at least good enough to stop the wounded Eagles.

[MoRcHeEbA]

I think that Legit defense showed a thing or two when they got stomped by the Buc's

Eagles without owens are still better then the bucs

[The Outlaw]

Just because you don't like the Eagles doesn't mean that the Packers are goodWow you are thick aren't you?

I can see the Packers beating the Eagles. I can see the Vikings beating the Eagles. I can definately see the Panthers beating the Eagles.

I can see Seattle beating them, but they won't because while they have the firepowder, they don't have the gun.

Seriously just get out of here right now if you think the Eagles still have just as good of a chance to beat all these teams.

[The Outlaw]

You don't have to better than a team to beat them. Without TO the Eagles are a lot more liable for an upset in the playoffs.


Are you retarded? They won 5 straight before losing to Atlanta and have the tie breaker against St Louis and New Orleans. They also barely lost to the second best team in the NFC. The Rams will be 6-10 and the Saints suck.
THANK YOU

But, by his logic, Miami didn't really just beat New England. And Buffalo didn't really beat Seattle or St. Louis or New York. Since they are better and all.

[#1-norm-fan]

The night before the Cowboys/Eagles game a friend of mine made the comment that he didn't even care if Dallas won as long as Roy Williams laid a hit on TO and broke his legs.

He didn't break his legs... pretty Twilight Zone-ish though.

[BCWWF]

I didn't say that the Eagles are still as good as they were, I said that they are still the best team in the NFC by far.

Yes anything can happen, but how can you even begin to say that the Packers would be favored? They got whooped hard when they played a few weeks ago, and it had more to do with the Eagles defense then their offense. They couldn't score, so why does TO being gone help the Packers score? It doesn't. If the Eagles were so one dimentional, I guarantee you they would have lost more then one game (and that game was against the best team in the league)

Its just rediculous how everybody is saying that the Eagles are bad just because they don't like them. The same thing everybody did with Kobe Bryant.

[MoRcHeEbA]

SO what you're saying is you're gonna light my ass on fire.

[The Outlaw]

LOL Kobe Bryant

LOL Lakers, 13-11, yep

That game was kind of...I dunno the Packers are a lot better than that game, I think it was an ESPN columnist who put it best and said the game was an aberration.

[BCWWF]

The Lakers are bad, but Kobe Bryant is still easilly one of the top ten players in the game, no question. Sure, Shaq is doing good in the worst division in the league and with one helluva guard, Kobe is leading a team of practically nobody to a plus 500 record in one of the hardest divisions in the league (Sac, Phoenix, Clippers). If you are saying Kobe Bryant is not one of the best players in the NBA because his team is 13-11, come on man.

[MoRcHeEbA]

KEEP IT ON TOPIC


eagles are gonna lose

[VonErich Lives]

Going w/ BCWWF here, the Eagles will be worse, but he NFC is still weak, they still have other improvements from last year and no other NFC team has a huge improvement.

No question the other WR's will need to step up. Teams will load up on Westbrook and force McNabb to throw. If those guys remember how to catch and "Stinkston" as Irivin calls him (which was really funny) has to find a cure for his aligator arms.

Even still, they made it to the NFC championship last year w/o TO.

Are they more beatable now, sure.

Are they still the NFC fav's, yes.

[MoRcHeEbA]

they also made the championships with two shutdown corners who they don't have this year, not knocking on the other two corners they've got this year but Taylor and Vincent with Dawkins pretty much made one of the nastiest secondaries.

[#1-norm-fan]

Gonna be a Falcons-Steelers Super Bowl is a rematch of the 34-34 tie from 2 years ago. That game was the shit.

[The Icon of Elisim]

they also made the championships with two shutdown corners who they don't have this year, not knocking on the other two corners they've got this year but Taylor and Vincent with Dawkins pretty much made one of the nastiest secondaries.
Ding ding ding ding, we have a weiner

[Y2Ant]

Lito Sheppard is the man :(

[KingofOldSchool]

Hahahahaha.

What do the Rams, the 49ers, and the Patriots all have in common?

They all lost to the Dolphins this season. :naughty:

[VonErich Lives]

Gonna be a Falcons-Steelers Super Bowl is a rematch of the 34-34 tie from 2 years ago. That game was the shit.

I'm waiting to see the seeding before making a prediction.

Steelers have the best shot and beating the Pats.

But, I think the Colts have a better shot at beating the Steelers.

Rothlesberger has played his role the last few weeks and hasn't looked great winning (he looked beatter earlier in the year).

He makes a few mistakes and the Steelers can't keep up w/ a shoot out w/ the Colts.

Pats seem to have mannings number, but that all changes if Law isn't healthy.

The Jets could give the Steelers or Pats a run.

No idea what to expect from SD except that coach Marty will choke at some point.

would like to see the Bills make it, but it's gonna be tough and luck for them to do it.

[The Outlaw]

The Lakers are bad, but Kobe Bryant is still easilly one of the top ten players in the game, no question. Sure, Shaq is doing good in the worst division in the league and with one helluva guard, Kobe is leading a team of practically nobody to a plus 500 record in one of the hardest divisions in the league (Sac, Phoenix, Clippers). If you are saying Kobe Bryant is not one of the best players in the NBA because his team is 13-11, come on man.
I would rather have a good team player such as Shaq who gets everyone involved by getting quadrupled team and him shoot the ball 18-20 times a game and get me 25-12-5 a game than have a selfish guy who shoots the ball 30+ times a game and gets me 30-8-8. That is what I am saying. I never meant that Kobe didn't have talent...

[The Outlaw]

Back on topic, cheeba hit it on the head :y:

[road doggy dogg]

Hahahahaha.

What do the Rams, the 49ers, and the Patriots all have in common?

They all lost to the Dolphins this season. :naughty:

Do you even have a favorite team? Retard.

[MoRcHeEbA]

I think his favorite team is poison ivy :shifty: I also heard he likes the shotgun defense :shifty:

[MoRcHeEbA]

GOOD NIGHT

[road doggy dogg]

Cheeba serving up the pwnsauce tonight

[The Miz]

shotgun defense :shifty:
:love:

[The Outlaw]

Do you even have a favorite team? Retard.

Yeah he does. The Colts.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah he does. The Colts.

What?

Rick. :(

That's a lie.

They are one of my least favorite teams. :(

[KingofOldSchool]

Do you even have a favorite team? Retard.


Well it's not the Lions. :naughty:

[The Miz]

Last year his favorite team was the Pats, although the year before that it was the Bucs

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

they also made the championships with two shutdown corners who they don't have this year, not knocking on the other two corners they've got this year but Taylor and Vincent with Dawkins pretty much made one of the nastiest secondaries.
3 outta their 4 DBs made the probowl though, so they must be doing something right.

[Innovator]

If it's Colts at Steelers it all depends on if Peyton can get into a good rhythm.

Against the Eagles, be fucking physical on offense. Their weakness is the run D, which will keep Dawkins and company honest when it comes to the play action.

[MoRcHeEbA]

3 outta their 4 DBs made the probowl though, so they must be doing something right.


I said I wassn't knocking the guys they have now, all I said was that I think the last three years they've made it they've had an even better defense then they do this year.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yea but they still got a 3/4 of the starting probowl defensive backfield. So yeah, maybe its not as good as last year, but its pretty damn good.

[The Outlaw]

What?

Rick. :(

That's a lie.

They are one of my least favorite teams. :(
Uhh...wtf

You're from Indy...you always talk about the Colts. You are lying you beast. :mad:

[road doggy dogg]

LOL you retard, why are you making fun of the Pats if you're a Colts fan. Is last year's playoffs too far off for you to remember?

[The Outlaw]

Rod do you want to die?

[road doggy dogg]

No, but it is funny pointing out flaws in Boy George's logic. "OMG the Pats lost to the Dolphins! :lol: :rofl: :lol: GO COLTS!!!!!!11111111"

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LOL you retard, why are you making fun of the Pats if you're a Colts fan. Is last year's playoffs too far off for you to remember?

What about the 1st game of the season?

[MoRcHeEbA]

ok ok ok I've got a good one

what does KoOS,Peyton Manning,Tony Dungy all have in common?

They all love the shotgun :rofl:

[The Outlaw]

Peyton likes the I as well you dirty girl

[BCWWF]

Are you guys kidding? Right now the Colts are playing better football and the Patriots probably won't even end up with home field in the playoffs.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Steelers will get home field for the entire playoffs, yes.

If the Patriots play the Colts in the playoffs, it will be in Foxboro sir

[VonErich Lives]

Steelers will get home field for the entire playoffs, yes.

If the Patriots play the Colts in the playoffs, it will be in Foxboro sir

Indy wins their last two, Pats lose their last two, Indy has homfield over the Pats and the first round bye.

Pats would host the Wild card game

Same if the Charges win their last two.

if Tied, the Pats are over the Colts due to head to head win.

Not sure about SD/Pats. They both still have AFC teams to play which would effect a tie breaker.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I know there is a chance that NE could lose the homefield. But I am pretty confident they won't lose their next 2 games

[VonErich Lives]

Yeah I know there is a chance that NE could lose the homefield. But I am pretty confident they won't lose their next 2 games

If the Pats lose to the Jets and beats SF and SD wins two, I think SD may be over the pats due to more AFC wins.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah but the Colts would still play in Foxboro

Which is all I said

[BCWWF]

I'm just saying that the Colts are playing so well right now and the Pats seemed to hiccup a little bit, so its kind of stupid for RDD to be berating Colts fans for being optimistic.

[VonErich Lives]

I'm just saying that the Colts are playing so well right now and the Pats seemed to hiccup a little bit, so its kind of stupid for RDD to be berating Colts fans for being optimistic.

Not when Indy hasn't beaten the Pats recently.

[BCWWF]

A lot has changed since the first game of the season, and really Boston fans should be the last to be using the "last year" argument, with the Red Sox winning the World Series and all. I'm not saying the Colts are a better team or anything, I'm just saying its stupid to flame somebody for being optimistic about a really really good team.

[VonErich Lives]

A lot has changed since the first game of the season, and really Boston fans should be the last to be using the "last year" argument, with the Red Sox winning the World Series and all. I'm not saying the Colts are a better team or anything, I'm just saying its stupid to flame somebody for being optimistic about a really really good team.

Your making your point less and less...

W/ the Red Sox?

The year before, they were what, 9 outs from the WS?

I understand what you're saying you're just making little sense and doing a worse job of making your point.

[BCWWF]

"The Colts can win in the playoffs, Payton Manning can't win big games"

What were people saying about the Red Sox for 86 years until 2004? Its just not a good argument.

[BCWWF]

BTW, I put quotes around that representing typical comments I see on this board, not something that VEL specifically said.

[VonErich Lives]

"The Colts can win in the playoffs, Payton Manning can't win big games"

What were people saying about the Red Sox for 86 years until 2004? Its just not a good argument.

there is a difference there (even though w/ the Sox I always felt it was less to do w/ not being able to win, and more to do w/ better teams they faced).

In the case of the Sox you're talking about a team, who'se players kept changing.

On the flip side, you're talking about Manning, 1 player.

If you said "Pedro can't win the big game"

That would be a better comparison, in terms of relevence and ability to effect a game.

[BCWWF]

I don't think the Colts were favored to win last year at all though. The Pats were real hot, playing at home, and eventual champions, so for the Colts to win would have been an upset. I know theres been much more then last year with Payton not winning big games, but I don't think anybody was going to beat the Pats in that condition last year.

VEL, its Christmas Eve, I think we should both go spend some time with our families and sip some hot cocoa. I'll be back tomorrow :wave:

[VonErich Lives]

I don't think the Colts were favored to win last year at all though. The Pats were real hot, playing at home, and eventual champions, so for the Colts to win would have been an upset. I know theres been much more then last year with Payton not winning big games, but I don't think anybody was going to beat the Pats in that condition last year.

VEL, its Christmas Eve, I think we should both go spend some time with our families and sip some hot cocoa. I'll be back tomorrow :wave:

yeah, I went to the local pub and had a few glasses of crown royal.

I understand what you were trying to say, I just disagree (which is fine, it's an opinion issue, there's no right/wrong) but the example of the sox was a poor example, because it involved different players over different years.

That being said, even when the Pats had a bad team 2000, they upset the Colts (I was at the game, luxury box... Bishop threw a TD right before the half...)

Yeah, Belicheck has always seemed to have Mannings number.

[MoRcHeEbA]

lol@ BCWWF telling a jew to go spend time with his family on christmas eve

[VonErich Lives]

lol@ BCWWF telling a jew to go spend time with his family on christmas eve

* toasts to cheebs * I was gonna let that one go... it being Xmas and all, that and maybe he'd put some Kalua in my Cocoa...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am really hoping the Patriots make to the Superbowl seeing how I just found out I am pretty damn close to recieving tickets to it :eek: :eek: :eek:

[MoRcHeEbA]

I hope for your sake it's san diego and green bay

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't even care who it is...Going to the Superbowl will be fucking sick no matter what. Not to mention I'll be in Jacksonville in January while its cold as shit up hurrrr

[MoRcHeEbA]

yeah I would like to go to the superbowl :( I might try and go to the pro-bowl I can get tickets to it, I just need the time off... Not to mention I don't think the Pro-Bowl ever even sells out does it?

[Loose Cannon]

dam, that's pretty cool. I never have been to any kind of playoff game (in all sports), never mind the Superbowl before.

Now the Jets have to make it there.

[BCWWF]

Oops, didn't know VEL was a Jew, sorry

[road doggy dogg]

What are you talking about with the Red Sox? The Red Sox haven't won in like 86 years, and they finally win one, so that makes them the poster child for winning big games now? Indy with Manning haven't performed well in the playoffs. Odds are that trend will probably continue. It's not GUARANTEED that every team that plays bad in the playoffs will always lose, so that doesn't mean it's not a good argument. Godddddd.

[el fregadero]

I don't even care who it is...Going to the Superbowl will be fucking sick no matter what. Not to mention I'll be in Jacksonville in January while its cold as shit up hurrrr
Yeah, it'll probably be 60 degrees.

[VonErich Lives]

yeah, have some money socked aside for a possible superbowl trip... or even an AFC championship trip to Pittsburg, some friends of mine went in 2001 and said it was great.

[Y2Ant]

To be fair, the last Colts-Pats game in Foxboro was pretty close, and should have gone to OT but Vanderjagt jobbed it up :mad:

If Favre can win in the Metrodome, I don't see why Manning can't win in New England.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Favre not playing good in the Metrodome is a myth, he is 3-2 in the last 5 games there with the 2 times as many TDs as INTs.

Yeah the game was close, but so wasn't the playoff game, and the game before that. Belicheck has Manning's number. Not saying Colts have no chance of beating the Patriots. Just pretty confident the Pats will handle their biz againest Manning and Co.

Plus, bad weather isn't exactly ideal situation for the Colts offense. Most likely it will be shitty in December/January in Foxboro

[Y2Ant]

Yeah, Favres record in the Metrodome was like 3-12 or something overall, with a 2:1 picks:TDs ratio, I never knew it was that bad.

One of the guys said that every QB has somewhere where they play bad, which is probably right, I dunno where that would be for Tom Brady really :o

I think if the Colts play the Pats again in the AFC title game (which I am predicting is going to happen) i'll be more worried about the New England defense than the weather.

If they played right now though the Colts might take it, since I doubt Manning would throw 3 passes to Earthwind Moreland :shifty:

[BCWWF]

It still stands that you guys are underestimating the Colts offense and the injuries to the Pats defense. I honestly think that if they meet in the playoffs that the Colts would win, but the overwhelming Boston presence on these boards makes me automatically wrong.

[BCWWF]

The Red Sox was just an example of a team that "can never win the big one" that just did. Ok, so that is a team and you want some individual players? Michael Jordan didn't win an NBA Championship until he was in the league for like 9 years. John Elway didn't win until the last two years of his career. I'm just saying that because he hasn't been perfect in the past doesn't mean that he is incapable of being good in the future.

Do you think that Payton Manning is capable of winning a Super Bowl?

My answer is yes, the majority of the board says no.

[VonErich Lives]

It still stands that you guys are underestimating the Colts offense and the injuries to the Pats defense. I honestly think that if they meet in the playoffs that the Colts would win, but the overwhelming Boston presence on these boards makes me automatically wrong.

Overwhelming Boston presence? me, Stima... who else? RDD was the guy who made the post, unless he moved recently, he ain't from Boston.

The Red Sox was just an example of a team that "can never win the big one" that just did. Ok, so that is a team and you want some individual players? Michael Jordan didn't win an NBA Championship until he was in the league for like 9 years. John Elway didn't win until the last two years of his career. I'm just saying that because he hasn't been perfect in the past doesn't mean that he is incapable of being good in the future.

Do you think that Payton Manning is capable of winning a Super Bowl?

My answer is yes, the majority of the board says no.

You're still using pretty bad examples, but getting closer.

Jordan, wasn't in a big game, so it wasn't possible for him not to win it. Once he got a team around him they won.

Elway, still made the superbowl.

Manning hasn't won any "big games" and hasn't beaten the Pats.

As for the Pats defensive injuries, personally I don't view Poole as a big loss, he played over his head last year. Law is a huge loss, but may see some playing time tomorrow (shake the rust) and will be back for the playoffs.

As for not winning the big game, an example would be McNabb, although Manning doesn't even make the confrence championship game.

The reason your team analogy didn't work is first the Sox did win big games, they just never won the WS, but they did win ALCS which would = the AFC championship which Manning has never won and only been to once. Also, Manning is a fixed asset in the equation, where over 86years the sox players changed.

That all being said, Manning will be viewed as unable to win a big game until he, well, wins a big game.

If they get past Pittsburgh or NE in the playoffs, on the road, my view will change a little of him, but till then, he doesn't win the big games. It's also more that if you look at the big games he doesn't win, they're normally not something like a missed kick, or a blown defensive coverage, they're games where he doesn't play well.

I will say, in recent weeks the Colts defense has been playing well, and I can see them giving at team a good game, because if that D can force a mistake or two, I don't think any team has an offense that can beat them in a pure shoot-out.

[Y2Ant]

Yeah the Colts D is starting to play good at the right time, I think if there is a year for the Colts to beat the Pats or whoever, this could be the year IMO

That being said, I still expect the Patriots to beat the Colts, but you never know.

[BCWWF]

I am just saying that its not impossible for the Colts to win

[VonErich Lives]

I am just saying that its not impossible for the Colts to win

anything is possible, but a Colts win in Pitt or NE would be a big upset.

Heck, the Pats lost to Miami, the Steelers to the Ravens.

Anything, is possible.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Not sure WHERE, but Miami is always a tough game no matter what the records or anything like that.

[BCWWF]

Well Miami has a real good defense, but a horrible offense, and they got like 29 on the Pats, so thats not a very good sign. I assume that the AFC Title game is New England and Pittsburgh though, the Colts are losing at home now to the Chargers, which to me is an indication that their hot streak is closing down.

[Rain Man]

Well Miami has a real good defense, but a horrible offense, and they got like 29 on the Pats, so thats not a very good sign. I assume that the AFC Title game is New England and Pittsburgh though, the Colts are losing at home now to the Chargers, which to me is an indication that their hot streak is closing down.
Just because the Patriots and the Steelers are the two best teams they are going to play for the AFC title.. I mean I would watch out for the Chargers right now, and we will see what is wrong with Roethlisberger. There are two many good teams in the AFC to assume right away the Pats and the Steelers are going to the AFC title game.

[BCWWF]

Well Rain Man, I was kind of saying the same thing as you for the past few days but nobody backed me up so I was convinced that the Colts could or any other team could never beat the Patriots. As of right now though, I would say the Chargers have a better chance of playing spoilers on the Pitts or Pats then the Colts tho.

[Rain Man]

Manning just broke the record and the Colts tied the game up.

[BCWWF]

Even so, I don't think their defense will be able to stop a thing when it counts. That and I think the Chargers are more under the radar than the Colts.

[The Outlaw]

COLTS :love:

PEYTON :love::love:

BRANDON STOKLEY :love:

MICHAEL JACKSON :love::shifty:

[Y2Ant]

PEYTON MANNING SASFLKkfdl

STOKLEY :love:!!!!!

[VonErich Lives]

Well Rain Man, I was kind of saying the same thing as you for the past few days but nobody backed me up so I was convinced that the Colts could or any other team could never beat the Patriots. As of right now though, I would say the Chargers have a better chance of playing spoilers on the Pitts or Pats then the Colts tho.

I think you should have my sig, we'll change the sign to BCWWF at the top.

No one said that no other team can beat the Pats. But when you look at the teams, the stats, the records and the fact that Manning usually chokes in big games, you have to favor a Pats vs. Steelers AFC Championship.

That's not saying no one can beat the Pats or the Steelers, of course, any team can win on any day, but it would be an upset, the Pats or Steelers would be favored against every other team in the AFC.

I watched the first 1/2 of the Colts game today and Manning was horrible, he was confused, making mistakes, whiney, and lost composure, it's the same thing that always happens to him in big games.

I didn't see the 2nd half, but by seeing the final score, he got his stuff together, this was a huge step for Manning and shows an ability he has never show'd before.

That being said, the Pats and Steelers are still the favorites and people will pick them.

No one is "assuming" the Pats and Steelers will go the the AFC championship, they're being picked based on stats, coaching, etc...

[BCWWF]

What was the final score of the Colts game? That'd be huge if San Diego pulled it out

[The Icon of Elisim]

34-31 after OT for the Colts

Manning looked pretty average up until the last two minutes onwards.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Hmmmmmmmm No comments about the Pats game this week guys? Outlaw? Ant? Cheeba?

[BCWWF]

The Pats just lost another guy to injury didn't they? I saw a headline on espn.com

[MoRcHeEbA]

what I wassn't around today :( and I only shitted on you last week cause it's fun :D

[MoRcHeEbA]

Yeah maybe the pats should chill on the whole Losing players to injury :rofl:

[The Outlaw]

Hmmmmmmmm No comments about the Pats game this week guys? Outlaw? Ant? Cheeba?
I actually didnt even know they won...knew they were playing the Jets but I haven't seen anything about it...

I'm guessing they won though? Good job I guess? :-\

[VonErich Lives]

yeah, haven't heard the extent of seymors injury, and wouldn't be shocked if belicheck tries to hide it.

[Y2Ant]

I watched the Jets-Pats game until half time, mad boring, just like the last time they played. Fell asleep during Cleveland and Miami too :o

I also fell asleep watching Tenesee and Denver, but to be fair I have to stay up until 5am to watch SNF/MNF, and i've watched like almost every one of those this season. :mad: