biggest blunders in wrestling

[jnb3599]

just curious what some of you guys consider to be the biggest F ups of all time in the great history of wrestling, not in any particualr order or anything just random things that we all look back on now and go wtf were they thinking.


there are the obvious like you know doink!! WTF vince???

but others like having hogan take out yokozuna in like 14 seconds at wm9, how much damage did wwf do to bret and yoko's credibility only to have hogan bail in 3 months after??


my all time hands down has to be arquette winning wcw world title, are u f'ing serious, i would give anything to have the dolorean to be able to go back in time to be in that production meeting where that was decided to laugh my ass off!!


any others guys???

[Tornado]

Pretty much the entire InVasion angle.

[Funky Fly]

Doink The Clown was genius. :mad:

What better heel than an evil clown?

[Sickboy]

Clowns are scary, especially the evil ones... :(

[Xero]

Isn't it obvious?

http://www.sixsixfive.com/shockmaster.jpg

[DaveWadding]

Sid as World Title Contender.

[Disturbed316]

Pretty much the entire InVasion angle.

Reintroducing ECW was genius, but having them side with WCW was not.

[jnb3599]

yea i did hate the invasion angle, it could have been done right, but it needed two shows to do so and austin going heel was monumentally stupid as much as goldberg going heel in wcw was

[Shaggy]

Isn't it obvious?

http://www.sixsixfive.com/shockmaster.jpg


THE SHOCKMASTER HA HA HA HA

[Savio]

Bastistas turn on raw

[KingofOldSchool]

Bastistas turn on raw

Are you fucking stupid?

His turn on Raw was GOLD.

[Cool King]

Are you fucking stupid?

His turn on Raw was GOLD.

Just what I was gonna say. :yes::y:

[Corkscrewed]

Savior was obviously being sarcastic.

[SuperSlim]

yeah. who wouldn't think Batista's turn was gold... :shifty:

[Disturbed316]

I actually marked out on Raw when that happened :$

[Savio]

Savior was obviously being sarcastic.

[KingofOldSchool]

Savior was obviously being sarcastic.

Yeah cause it's sooooo easy to tell when someone is being sarcastic on the internet.

[Kane Knight]

You know, it's not quite where this thread seems to be going, but when I first saw it, I immediately thought "Owen's death."

[Gertner]

I agree. Shockmaster.

[den1982]

GaVE HHH WHT TO HIM

[KayfabeMan]

I think I speak on behalf of Steve Austin when I say "What?"

[Bad Company]

NWO Wolfpac :|

[Iceman90]

InVasion
The Shockmaster
Russo putting himself on TV
Triple H winning the world title 10 times
Chamber of Horrors

[Shaggy]

yea the chamber of horrors match.....what the hell were they thinking

also

The Dog Kennel match between Bossman and Al Snow

[KayfabeMan]

Right then, but no one has explained this to me yet:

GaVE HHH WHT TO HIM

[The Fugitive]

I think what he means is, by giving Triple HHH the World Heavyweight Title, that was the biggest blunder in wrestling history.

[SuperSlim]

what's chamber of horrors?

[RP]

Undertaker being dead then reincarnated as a biker, then being dead again.

[Disturbed316]

what's chamber of horrors?

lol this match was complete gimmicky. It was a match between two teams and to win you had to put one of your opponants in an electric chair and pull the switch.

From the WCW Three Cage Match thread.

[Iceman90]

The Dog Kennel From Hell or whatever McMahon decided to call that shit.

[Bo]

Wasnt there a match in WCW that was a cage match on the back of a semi truck. And moving at that.

[den1982]

I think what he means is, by giving Triple HHH the World Heavyweight Title, that was the biggest blunder in wrestling history.

[Mr. JL]

Wasnt there a match in WCW that was a cage match on the back of a semi truck. And moving at that.
You may be referring to the infamous "King Of The Road Match" pitting Dustin Rhodes VERSUS Blacktop Bully that took place on the Uncensored 1995 Pay Per View event.

[Chavo Classic]

Anything on wrestlecrap

[mrslackalack]

The 2001 WCW/ECW Alliance Roster if they had waited or signed more guys earilier it would have been great, look at all the guys who came in to WCW from 2002 and 2003.

[Fabien Barthez]

Red Rooster

[NoRoolz]

Diesel.
Necrophilia angle.

[Corndad]

The Katie Vick Stuff was horrible.

[tucsonspeed6]

The Jackie Gayda match

[Lamuella]

Arquette
Fucking the Invasion angle
Stephanie in a world title match
Fingerpoke of doom

[Marcyo]

Sid as World Title Contender.

[M. Banana]

Triple H being born.

[Porky]

Wen The Rock drooped his sunglasses!! Then Mick Foley picked them up. Then The Rock said. Guess wat The Rock said? The Rock said: The Rock Thanks you!

:rofl:

[Gertner]

Cena winning the title from JBL

[Crazy88s]

Shamrock and Steve Blackman fighting in the middle of parked cars.

Kiss my ass match Rock and Billy Gunn

Stone Cold VS shane and vince, the briefcase being raised when austin was gonna grab it but we never found out who raised it.

Al Snow and Hardcore Holly - St. Valentines Day Massacre
ended up in the nearby river

[redoneja]

The bigwigs at TimeWarner not letting Bischoff run WCW like he wanted too.
Kennel from Hell
ANY pregnancy or marriage angle
Vince telling Bret that he couldn't use him anymore
David Arquette winning the WHC
Bischoff releasing/letting leave Foley, Austin, Pillman, Jericho, Raven, Beniot, Guerrero, Saturn, Malenko, Big Show

[Apprentice]

Al Wilson

[PureHatred]

The pay-off to the Sting/Hogan feud at Starcade.

[Hitman84]

Vince telling Bret that he couldn't use him anymore
repppps

[Londoner]

Triple H being born.

:yes:

[Shaner]

IMO these were all mistakes -
Doink
Al Wilson
Gillberg
Nathan Jones - He wasn't a very decent worker
Matt Morgan on the microphone
HHH - everything to do with HHH

[bigdaddysuperfreak]

Kane with X-pac

[JJ Moore]

http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/god/gode6.jpg

[Savio]

Wasnt there a match in WCW that was a cage match on the back of a semi truck. And moving at that.That'd be hot.

[Lamuella]

there are the obvious like you know doink!! WTF vince???



Shut up. Shut up right now.

When Doink was evil he was a BRILLIANT character. An evil clown who entered to distorted circus music and the sound of children screaming? He hit one of his opponents with a car battery. He was brilliant.

Matt Borne was bloody good in the role.

[Shaggy]

Arquette being champ was a big blunder to the fans but it wasnt for WcW....

In an interview with Russo he said that because of them putting the belt on him they were able to get great coverage from many different medias and they were able to get on air promos by Arquette and a bunch of his big time celebrity friends...(I believe they were Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox) for free. Russo said it was worth it and that he would do it all again today.

But us fans still consider it a big ass blunder

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

WCW putting the 1st Hogan - Goldberg title match on Nitro instead of PPV. It couldve drawn big money

[Just John]

Shut up. Shut up right now.

When Doink was evil he was a BRILLIANT character. An evil clown who entered to distorted circus music and the sound of children screaming? He hit one of his opponents with a car battery. He was brilliant.

Matt Borne was bloody good in the role.

Yeah. What better heel than an evil clown?? :|

~edit~

I've just realised Funky said this word for word, (I thought I heard it somewhere before) sorry but yeah I agree doink = amazing heel, the WWE could have done a whole lot worse, like an evil ice cream man (see chitty chitty bang bang) at least I think its an ice cream man...

[The Gooch]

WCW putting the 1st Hogan - Goldberg title match on Nitro instead of PPV. It couldve drawn big money

From a financial aspect I think that was one of the worst things ever. Yeah they beat RAW that week. Bunch of idiots.

In terms of gimmicks most of what is found on wrestlecrap. Although I must admit for the 80's stuff I am a little less inclined to be so negative about it as cheese was part of the fun.

Although it must have been tough for Vince to know what to do. Going through with the Over the Edge PPV even though one of his wrestlers just died to me is a major blunder. The show must go on, but it just seems so callous in retrospect given the circumstances.

[Loose Cannon]

Yea, saying Matt Borne sucked in the role of Doink is completely ridiculous. Borne busted his ass with what he was given and actually got the gimmick over to the poinr where people were actually cheering him. I mean, come on. Borne knew exactly what to do in that role. It's just to bad he had some problems behind the scenes.

[Lamuella]

Arquette being champ was a big blunder to the fans but it wasnt for WcW....

In an interview with Russo he said that because of them putting the belt on him they were able to get great coverage from many different medias and they were able to get on air promos by Arquette and a bunch of his big time celebrity friends...(I believe they were Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox) for free. Russo said it was worth it and that he would do it all again today.

But us fans still consider it a big ass blunder

Then Russo is a colossal dumbass

The people I know who are either casual fans or not fans at all who know of the Arquete incident say that it's one of the stupidest things they had ever heard about, and that it lowered their opinion of WCW

[Shaved Monkey]

Al Snow and Hardcore Holly - St. Valentines Day Massacre
ended up in the nearby river

I liked that ending, its not very often a falls count anywhere match actually goes outside the arena, or the ringside area for that matter.

Speaking of which anybody remember the Wrestlemania (VIII, I think) match between Randy Savage and Crush? All I remember is Savage stringing Crush up by his ankles to win the match, but I can't remember the gimmick. All I know was it wasn't so good.

[Shaggy]

I think a big blunder for me was that at all the WCW Road Wild ppvs if they had a hardcore falls count anywhere match they would always say---Falls Count anywhere in the city because it was an open building. Yet not once did they ever leave the building...what a waste

[Goulet]

I liked that ending, its not very often a falls count anywhere match actually goes outside the arena, or the ringside area for that matter.

Speaking of which anybody remember the Wrestlemania (VIII, I think) match between Randy Savage and Crush? All I remember is Savage stringing Crush up by his ankles to win the match, but I can't remember the gimmick. All I know was it wasn't so good.
That was Last Man Standing at WM X

[Chavo Classic]

I liked that ending, its not very often a falls count anywhere match actually goes outside the arena, or the ringside area for that matter.

Speaking of which anybody remember the Wrestlemania (VIII, I think) match between Randy Savage and Crush? All I remember is Savage stringing Crush up by his ankles to win the match, but I can't remember the gimmick. All I know was it wasn't so good.

The match stipulated it was falls count anywhere but the pinned opponent had a certain amount of time (me thinks 30 seconds) to get back into the ring or the pin would stand and he'd lose.

Explains why Savage tied Crush upside down from a scaffold after pinning him - to prevent Crush returning to the ring and voiding the pin.

After what seemed like an hour of Savage trying to hoist that fat bastard up in the air from his feet, Crush lasted about 3 and a half seconds before falling on his head and ruining the entire climax.

[The One]

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Judy Bagwell on a Poll Match.

[Shaved Monkey]

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Judy Bagwell on a Poll Match.

:rofl:

I blocked that one from my mind. Thanks for making me remember! :mad:

[VicJericho]

Mae Young Hand Birth
Shockmaster
WCW Hardcore Division
David Arquette
I cant think of anymore

[DaveBrawl]

Viagra on a pole match between Kidman and Shane Douglas I believe it was, then one of them broke the bottle and Shane was scrambling around trying to get all his pills.

Good stuff. :y:

[Fryza]

X-Pac

[owenbrown]

Arquette then Russo HIMSELF being WCW champ was fucking awful. :mad:

[M. Banana]

Was.

[BatistaBomb]

is everybody forgetting the tequilla on a pole match i remember juvi was involved in it

or how about beaver cleavage and gtv

[Splaya]

Not giving RVD the title

[Savio]

I was there when Arquette won. I was sad because I didn't have anything to throw.

[Gerard]

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Judy Bagwell on a Poll Match.


Do i even want to hazard a guess as to how she was attached to the pole? :shifty:

[Jonster]

I do.

[Xero]

Do i even want to hazard a guess as to how she was attached to the pole? :shifty:
She was on a forklift, so it was more like 'Judy Bagwell on a Forklift' match.

WrestleCrap covered it last week. :shifty:

[Chavo Classic]

She was on a forklift, so it was more like 'Judy Bagwell on a Forklift' match.

WrestleCrap covered it last week. :shifty:

holy shit, that was actually a match? I thought it was a long running joke you guys had on here, like Shaun O'Haire escaping his cage.

[Xero]

holy shit, that was actually a match? I thought it was a long running joke you guys had on here, like Shaun O'Haire escaping his cage.
It would be funnier if that were the case. :nono:

Results from that match...

"Judy Bagwell On A Pole" Match
"Positively" Kanyon vs. Buff Bagwell with Judy Bagwell
*If Kanyon Wins, Judy Bagwell Will Become His "Kimberly"!
Kanyon drives a forklift to the ring. He raises it with Judy Bagwell on top and enters the ring to do some mic work. Kanyon says he could not find a pole that would hold Judy up so the match is now officially a "Judy Bagwell on a forklift match." Buff comes out and the match starts on the outside and then into the crowd. Match goes into the ring and Buff hits a swinging neckbreaker. Buff backs Kanyon into the corner for ten shots to the head. Kanyon counters and hits a russian leg sweep from the middle turnbuckle. Kanyon grabs a pair of wire cutters and takes off the turnbuckle pad exposing the steel. Kanyon slapjacks Buff to the mat for a two count. Kanyon locks a cobra clutch on Buff which brings Buff down to the mat. Buff powers his way out of it but gets hit by a neckbreaker from Kanyon for a two count. Buff drops Kanyon across the exposed turnbuckle. Kanyon hits the kanyon cutter for a two count. DDP's music hit and out comes David Arquette. Buff clotheslines Kanyon. Buff goes uip top but Arquette hits him with a hard hat. Buff pulls Arquette into the ring. Buff clotheslines Arquette and Kanyon. Buff goes up top and hits both of them with the blockbuster for the pin. Buff lowers the forklift and gets Judy down and they hug. Kanyon hugs Arquette then gives him the kanyon cutter.
Winner: Buff Bagwell

Source: http://www.lordsofpain.net/reports/ppv/wcwnewbloodrising8-13-00.html

:nono:

[The Lone Drinker]

WCW putting the 1st Hogan - Goldberg title match on Nitro instead of PPV. It couldve drawn big money

They were going for ratings. Keep in mind, Vince had finally brought out the big guns in the WWF and WCW had to be prepared.

[Aussie Skier]

Jericho's title run; J.R: "Jericho doesn't care how he retains the belt."
Luger talking about how he was gonna b world champ and thus, not becoming world champ.
Arquette with the WCW title.
Taz wrestling in the WWE.
Montreal screwjob.
The truth Commission.

btw: Doink was cool!

[The Answer]

That dog shit match that Bulldog had a couple of times. I believe shamrock was involved in one.

[The Answer]

Not giving RVD the title

Yes, RVD not getting the world title in ECW was a massive blunder.

[wwe2222]

I think he is referring to RVD not getting the WWE title, not the ECW title...unless of course you are being facetious

[Hitman84]

That dog shit match that Bulldog had a couple of times. I believe shamrock was involved in one.
Wasn't there an Arm Wrestling match between Bulldog and Ken Shamrock where the loser had to eat a can of dog food?

[Fox]

-Any of the times they tried pushing Steve Blackman, just because he was Shane McMahon's friend.

-Not giving RVD the WWE Title during his first year. Paying his dues bullshit.

-Allowing Tazz to become an announcer. We got Tazz vs. Kurt Angle, but that was it. Then he became a "hardcore title wrestler" and drifted off into mediocrity before becoming an announcer.

-The RAW Diva Search 2004

-The RAW Diva Search 2005

-Triple H/Jericho feud turned into HHH/Stephanie feud. And what the fuck with the dog thing? Seriously, how much more obvious did they need to make it that they were sabotaging Jericho's career?

-Maven.

[joeken2]

I am going back a few yrs. A wrestler named Iron Mike Sharpe was wrestling a jobber, and mike threw him into the ropes and his toupee came right out into sharpe's hand> Vince who was the announceer at the time was speechless lol.

[M. Banana]

Daniel Puder

[Extreme Angle]

theres one i want to say that will get me loadsa neggy so i aint saying it

[Scarface]

-Any of the times they tried pushing Steve Blackman, just because he was Shane McMahon's friend.

-Not giving RVD the WWE Title during his first year. Paying his dues bullshit.

-Allowing Tazz to become an announcer. We got Tazz vs. Kurt Angle, but that was it. Then he became a "hardcore title wrestler" and drifted off into mediocrity before becoming an announcer.

-The RAW Diva Search 2004

-The RAW Diva Search 2005

-Triple H/Jericho feud turned into HHH/Stephanie feud. And what the fuck with the dog thing? Seriously, how much more obvious did they need to make it that they were sabotaging Jericho's career?

-Maven.


:y: Agreed.

Also any pregnancy angle. Ever. Even the ones that havent happened yet.

[Jonster]

theres one i want to say that will get me loadsa neggy so i aint saying it
Say it anyway, you've got loads of neg as it is.

[Jonster]

- The Raw Diva Search 2006

You know it... :shifty: