The winner of the 2006 Royal Rumble needs to be a heel

[Disturbed316]

Just finished watching the 1993 Royal Rumble and it got me thinking. Out of the 18 Rumbles that have taken place, from my knowledge, only 3 heels have won it. Here are the past winners:

2005 - Batista
2004 – Chris Benoit
2003 – Brock Lesnar
2002 – Triple H
2001 – Stone Cold
2000 – The Rock
1999 – Mr. McMahon
1998 – Stone Cold
1997 – Stone Cold
1996 – Shawn Michaels
1995 – Shawn Michaels
1994 – Bret “Hit Man” Hart and Lex Luger
1993 – Yokozuna
1992 – Ric Flair
1991 – Hollywood Hogan
1990 – Hollywood Hogan
1989 – Big John Studd
1988 – Hacksaw Jim Duggan

3 out of 18 winners have been heel. For a bit of a change it would be nice to see a heel win it. It's been 6 years since the last, about time they heeled up the winner. What do you think?

[PorkSoda]

Wasn't Flair a heel back then?

Yeah, a heel should win it.

[Savio]

batista is the worst winner I've seen in my wrestling life time.

[Savio]

Angle should

[Dave Youell]

I thought a heel should have won this year myself

[Goulet]

You need a face champion for him to go to Mania against, like when Yoko won and Hitman was champion, also Flair was a heel in 92 and Michaels was a heel in 95 so the heels that have won the rumble are

Flair
Yokozuna
Michaels
Stone Cold
Mr. McMahon

[Eunos]

Ive actually been thinking this.

Vince was the last person to win the Rumble as a Heel.

I guess Batista was somewhat inbetween at the time even though he was recieving huge face pops.

[Londoner]

The thing is, HHH is always the champ. That's why now a face always wins it.Funny how all these problems come down to one man eh....

[James Steele]

Shut up. Seriously, the bitcHHHing is getting old.

[FourFifty]

I'd like to see a heel win it by screwing a face over. Let's just use Jericho (heel) and HBK (face) for this idea.

For weeks before the rumble Jericho and HBK start feuding. HBK hits the ring for the rumble, and 30 seconds later Jericho follows him. Keep only a few people in the ring when HBK is in there, Haywood Jablome throws HBK into the ropes, and Jericho pulls the top rope down. Now where were the refs during this? After Hassan got out (shortly before HBK went in) he tried to get back into the ring. So Hassan has all but one of the refs on him trying to get him to go back to the ring. That one ref saw HBK go over the top, but he doesn't know how he got over. Jerichio and HBK are fighting outside the ring, Jericho slams HBK's face into the ring post, and the next man to go in is none other than Jericho.
Jericho and HBK can keep their feud up 'till the next ppv or whatever.

[NoRoolz]

I think Y2J, Angle, or even Kane would be good, but realistically thinking Orton could actually win it, and in January chances are he'll still be a heel. But this is the WWE, and we all know that ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN bahgawd.

[KingofOldSchool]

I think Orton will win the next one.

[James Steele]

Kurt Angle needs to win a royal rumble. Seriously, Kurt Angle has done it all but 2 things:

Win a Royal Rumble and win the WWE/World Championship the main event at WrestleMania. I think WWE owes Kurt Angle these 2 things before he retires. Kurt Angle has helped this business in more ways in the past 6 years than some have done in decades.

[Londoner]

Shut up. Seriously, the bitcHHHing is getting old.


HHH being champ/in the main event scene is getting old.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

[Londoner]

Kurt Angle needs to win a royal rumble. Seriously, Kurt Angle has done it all but 2 things:

Win a Royal Rumble and win the WWE/World Championship the main event at WrestleMania. I think WWE owes Kurt Angle these 2 things before he retires. Kurt Angle has helped this business in more ways in the past 6 years than some have done in decades.


Correct me if i'm wrong but has Kurt even won at wrestlemania?

I agree with you btw.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, Mania 17 against Benoit.

[Corkscrewed]

Possibly that 2/3 falls match with Benoit, but I don't remember. And I'm too lazy to look it up. :p

[Dave Youell]

Shut up. Seriously, the bitcHHHing is getting old.
Rep this mang

Living the gimmick = Ratings!

[John la Rock]

ah WRESTLEMANIA 21 against MICHEALS

[Londoner]

If you mean the triple threat match with jericho in it aswell, angle lost that one, when he had both titles and lost both of them.

[Londoner]

ah WRESTLEMANIA 21 against MICHEALS


Ah, i didn't see wrestlemania this year.To my knowledge though he hasn't won before then at wrestlemania.

Btw my post above was to corkscrewed.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, Mania 17 against Benoit.

[James Steele]

Correct me if i'm wrong but has Kurt even won at wrestlemania?

I agree with you btw. Yes. His WrestleMania Record is 3-3-0 (3-4-0 if you count WM 2000 as 2 matches). Here is a quick Kurt Angle WrestleMania Recall™.


WrestleMania 2000:Chris Benoit def. Chris Jericho (IC Title) ; Chris Jericho def. Chris Benoit (Euro Title)
WrestleMania X-Seven: Kurt Angle def. Chris Benoit
WrestleMania X8: Kurt Angle def. Kane
WrestleMania XIX: WWE Championship Match Brock Lesnar def. Kurt Angle to become new champion
WrestleMania XX: WWE Championship Match Eddie Guerrero def. Kurt Angle to retain
WrestleMania 21: Kurt Angle def. Shawn Michaels


So basically, Kurt Angle has lost every title match he's had at WrestleMania, but won every non-title bout at WrestleMania.

[Extreme Angle]

i want angle to win because he has been winning the battle royals alot recently on smackdown! Or maybe a cruiserweight! e.g. Tajiri or mysterio

[Londoner]

Damn,i can't believe i forgot about that record of his.Rep to you for reminding me.

[James Steele]

I am the following:

Jeri-mark (Jerichoholic)
Benoit mark (Cripplerite)
Angle Mark (Anglmerican)
HHHater (Typical Internet Fan)

[Londoner]

lol, i seriously am having trouble remembering Kurt's victory over kane at wrestlemania, can anyone remember the build up to it?

[James Steele]

lol, i seriously am having trouble remembering Kurt's victory over kane at wrestlemania, can anyone remember the build up to it?

Kurt wanted hot monkey sex with Katie.

[Savio]

lol, i seriously am having trouble remembering Kurt's victory over kane at wrestlemania, can anyone remember the build up to it?Kurt was making fun of canada right before the match but before that....:-\

[tucsonspeed6]

In order for a decent match at Wrestlemania to involve a heel, the champion would have to be a face, and would have to be the champ for a minimum of two months (starting in Janurary and possibly losing the title at Mania). No problems there. Batista's been champ for two months already. The problem lies in the buildup of the match. Are we more likely to have a better buy rate with the heel who's been trying to strike at the championship for two months, or a face who has been getting ready to take down the evil champ for two months?

With the two belts, you could say, "Sure, go ahead. We'll have a babyface take out the mega-heel for the other championship." but that babyface won't have the Rumble Win behind him. He's lost some credibility there already.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done. I'm saying that it's hard to do. Having a heel win the rumble requires that the heel do something really nasty to win (IE: Mr McMahon), Face another heel at Wrestlemania, but turn face quickly after the win, ala Orton. Or have the heel built up as the most unstoppable force to be reconned with and have him destroy his way to the champ at Mania (IE, Kane).

And I think if any Heel could win it, it'd be Angle. He's made quite a name for himself in the past few rumbles, and I'd love to see him be the man to beat instead of the man who consistantly makes it to the final 4.

[Savio]

lol, i seriously am having trouble remembering Kurt's victory over kane at wrestlemania, can anyone remember the build up to it?ah here's how it started:

Kurt said that a travesty occurred on RAW - Triple H had stolen his title shot at WrestleMania.
He said he was dying to take his frustration out on anyone in the back.
Angle said he would stand in the middle of the ring all night until someone was stupid enough to come out and challenge him to a fight.
He said he was ready to go Olympic on somebody’s ass!
At that point, flames burst all around the Olympic Hero as Kane made his way to the ring!
Angle and the Big Red Monster began pummeling one another until Angle went outside and grabbed a steel chair!
He began hammering Kane with the metal chair, which caused the referee to call for the disqualification.
The two men continued to beat on one another, with Kane throwing Kurt into the steel steps.
The Big Red Monster began pulling monitors off the announce table, but Angle hit the behemoth with a low blow.
Then, the Olympic Hero got a hold of Kane and threw him through the table with a German Suplex!
With the table in shambles, Angle nailed another German Suplex on Kane on top of the wooden mess.
He then locked on the ankle-lock on the Big Red Monster before a half dozen Federation officials came out to separate the two!

[The CyNick]

Its hard to book this stuff so far out.

However, if Cena is doing good business over the summer, I would run with him as champ for a long time. I think thats something they should consider is a year+ reign for Cena, just to get fans back into the idea of seeing a happy ending on all the shows.

With that in mind, I could see a heel winning the Rumble to face Cena. Maybe if they build up Orton, they could have him win the Rumble, that might make him seem like a major threat to Cena.

The other option I would consider, and I dont think the WWE will do this because of the politics involved, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring back Brock and make him dominant again. Have him dominate the Rumble, and then throw him up against Cena.

But the general formula is to have a face chasing at Mania, its been successful over the years, so thats why they continue to do it.

[Londoner]

ah here's how it started:

Kurt said that a travesty occurred on RAW - Triple H had stolen his title shot at WrestleMania.
He said he was dying to take his frustration out on anyone in the back.
Angle said he would stand in the middle of the ring all night until someone was stupid enough to come out and challenge him to a fight.
He said he was ready to go Olympic on somebody’s ass!
At that point, flames burst all around the Olympic Hero as Kane made his way to the ring!
Angle and the Big Red Monster began pummeling one another until Angle went outside and grabbed a steel chair!
He began hammering Kane with the metal chair, which caused the referee to call for the disqualification.
The two men continued to beat on one another, with Kane throwing Kurt into the steel steps.
The Big Red Monster began pulling monitors off the announce table, but Angle hit the behemoth with a low blow.
Then, the Olympic Hero got a hold of Kane and threw him through the table with a German Suplex!
With the table in shambles, Angle nailed another German Suplex on Kane on top of the wooden mess.
He then locked on the ankle-lock on the Big Red Monster before a half dozen Federation officials came out to separate the two!

Oh yeah I remember now, only just though.How did you remember that?(guessing you got it off some site ;) )

[Londoner]

The other option I would consider, and I dont think the WWE will do this because of the politics involved, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring back Brock and make him dominant again. Have him dominate the Rumble, and then throw him up against Cena.

But the general formula is to have a face chasing at Mania, its been successful over the years, so thats why they continue to do it.

You could always use Batista for that, considering what happened this year at the rumble.

[Face Heely]

I am the following:

Angle Mark (Anglmerican)

Perhaps even...an Anglophile?

To contribute something to the thread, though...feel-good moments, even if they're usually a bit cliche, can sell really well. And the nature of the WM title shot almost guarantees that sort of moment on a specific date - it gives the story something finite toward which to build. Sure, the story could be great, but viewers want resolution (i.e. the good guy going over), and that's what a face going RR-to-WM offers them. Even if he loses along the way, there's always another chance.

Something like CyNick suggested, with Brock, or some other heel, plowing their way to the title, could easily fizzle without an end in sight - that is, a face competitor popping up who poses a threat to Brock. Unstoppable heels get boring without serious competition - that's why Hunter, for example has had boring periods. He's a fantastic heel who hasn't always had a good face off whom to play. (It's all very zen - faces need heels as much as heels need faces.)

[Fox]

Chris Benoit should turn heel at Survivor Series (possibly a screwjob ending in a WWE Title match leading to a fit of uncontrollable rage and beat down on John Cena) and win the Rumble again.

[The Naitch]

Randy Orton

Then he can face John Cena at Wrestlemania

[RP]

That Angle vs Kane match at Wrestlemania may be Kanes best match. Its a heck of an opening match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Randy Orton and John Cena are the front-runners to be the winner of the 2006 Royal Rumble.

Personally, I hope Eric Bischoff begins a feud of sort with John Cena, since Cena didnt help with the crusade against ECW. RAW and SD! got their asses kicked, and John Cena is the guy Eric Bischoff blames for that. Bischoff seeks revenge against Cena by making the tag team match next week for the WWE Championship, where the guy who makes the decision gets the title. Jericho is isolated and doesn't want to tag in Cena (for obvious reasons), but eventually he is forced to (hopefully this adds credibility to Christian & Tomko) and Cena cleans house, eventually getting the F-U on Christian. Cena is about to cover when WHAM! Steel chair in the back of Cena by Jericho. Y2J goes to town on Cena with the steel chair, but the ref doesn't disqualify Jericho because it's his own tag team partner in a tag team match, and he can't disqualify Jericho as an individual. Jericho then hits a Lionsault on Christian and pins 1-2-3. Chris Jericho is the WWE Champion for a second time, making this his fourth World Championship.

Jericho then asks for a mic to be presented to him along with his WWE Title, and he proceeds to lean over Cena and says "Welcome to RAW is Jericho, junior.", before leaving to a chorus of boos. Completely mugging Cena is one of the only things I can see turning Chris Jericho mega-heel, so I think they should take it. It turns out Jericho is the next draftee to SmackDown!, and he immediately enters a feud with Chris Benoit.

Meanwhile on RAW, Cena's pissed he lost the title, and he asks Bischoff to trade him back to SmackDown!. Bischoff tells Cena no, so Cena says he'll have to make Bischoff fire him. Cena then plays the face trying to lose his job so he can go back to SD! and feud with Jericho, but Bischoff hangs in there and doesn't trade his money maker.

This takes us to the Royal Rumble, where Cena says he can smell his revenge. Cena has made it clear in weeks leading up to the Rumble, that he will win it and take the ticket to SD! to beat Jericho in the main event of Mania for the WWE Championship. During the Rumble, Jericho runs out and throws Cena over the top and to the floor, but Cena lands so that only one foot hits the floor. As Jericho is escorted to the back by the referees. Cena stands on the SmackDown! announce table and taunts Jericho pointing to the foot that didn't hit the ground. But things go awkward for Cena when Tazz pushes Cena off! A heel turn for SmackDown!'s colour commentator. It turns out Jericho paid Tazz to interfere on Jericho's behalf.

I'd then have Randy Orton eliminate Kane to get a shot at Batista in the main event of WrestleMania.

For John Cena, I'd take one of two routes. Chris Jericho vs. John Cena in the first-ever Interpromotional Match for the WWE Championship (Batista and Cena win their respective matches), or John Cena wins a Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Chris Jericho retains the WWE Championship and Randy Orton becomes World Heavyweight Champion.

If you take the first-route, Cena goes to RAW and things are all hunky-dpry, but if you take the second route, you can have another draft lottery take place pretty much straight away after WrestleMania. Chris Jericho come sout on SD!, still WWE Champion, and he has the Hightlight Reel all set up to welcome the first draft pick (in a bizarre taunt to John Cena, since odds are he won't be drafted first twice). Jericho shows the video of John Cena being announced as the first draftee of the 2005 lottery, and Jericho introduces the first SD! pick for 2006. "My Time is Now" hits and John Cena calmly walks to the ring, where he cuts a promo on Jericho where he sounds like he's trying to hold back. Cena reminds Jericho of all the tricks Jericho tried to keep Cena on RAW, etc., but now it's all been for nothing, because he they are. Cena then challenges Chris Jericho to a match at Judgment Day for the WWE Championship. Cena gets his match, and we see Cena finally regain the belt at Judgment Day '06.

But all is not done with Cena in 2006, as he still uses his Money in the Bank Title Shot on a random edition of RAW, where he challenges Randy Orton. Cena wins the match, and we get Cena walking around with both belts for a while.

[The Naitch]

no

[XL]

no
:lol:

[Marcyo]

no

I'm willing to bet my tequila collection that you didn't read half of his post before saying this. :lol: