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Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 02:17 PM
No matter what happens................Payton Manning will always be a clown

MrMeJW
01-18-2004, 02:22 PM
3 cant come soon enough

Champion of Europa
01-18-2004, 02:34 PM
Colts will win.

Bad Guy
01-18-2004, 02:36 PM
No matter what happens...
getting a little nervous, are we?

Gertner
01-18-2004, 02:39 PM
Why even bother playing the game. NOBODY BEATS THE PATS AT HOME!

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 02:54 PM
getting a little nervous, are we?
Nope

Pats are winning it

Just saying if he goes off and plays good or something......hes still a pussy

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 03:01 PM
I'm more interested in the Philly game, but I think the Pats, eventhough I hate them more then the Colts, will pull it out.

MVP
01-18-2004, 03:13 PM
Whoever wins this game will probably win the Super Bowl.

Gertner
01-18-2004, 05:33 PM
15-0 at half! I'm like a pig in shit right now! GO PATS GO PATS GO PATS!

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 05:35 PM
Yeah the Colts are really FK'N blowing it right now. WTF are the Fumble by Harrison. That really killed the Colts momentum.

el fregadero
01-18-2004, 05:41 PM
<font color=teal>I think you made a mistake, Peyton Manning is the man.</font>

el fregadero
01-18-2004, 05:53 PM
<font color=teal>That's right.</font>

MrMeJW
01-18-2004, 06:11 PM
I love Antowain Smith.... this game is AWESOME

MrMeJW
01-18-2004, 06:20 PM
Holy shit, I love this game...

Payton really brought his A game

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 06:36 PM
3rd PICK FOR TY LAW

MrMeJW
01-18-2004, 06:36 PM
nice catch blanco nino, too bad your ass got saaaaacked

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 07:07 PM
lol, I really didn't care about this game.. I blame Manning for this playoff loss though. :shifty:

LoDownM
01-18-2004, 07:16 PM
:) Goodbye Colts.

MrMeJW
01-18-2004, 07:26 PM
Panthers or Eagles, who wants to lose the Super Bowl?

el fregadero
01-18-2004, 07:27 PM
<font color=teal>Panthers are going to win the Super Bowl.</font>

VonErich Lives
01-18-2004, 07:27 PM
lol, I really didn't care about this game.. I blame Manning for this playoff loss though. :shifty:

Yeah right, if the Pats lost you'd be rubbing Yash face in it :)

see you in Houston.

Manning got his ass kicked.

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 07:28 PM
All right...Lets see Philly whip some ass now

#1-wwf-fan
01-18-2004, 07:30 PM
It was all New England's defense. Regardless of today's game...

Manning > Brady

Crimson
01-18-2004, 07:30 PM
God I hate the Pats. Credit to them though, they are a tough team to beat, even though they have like no running game. Who needs a running game to win a superbowl anymore?

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 07:40 PM
Yeah right, if the Pats lost you'd be rubbing Yash face in it :)

see you in Houston.

Manning got his ass kicked.


yeah I would have rubbed it in yash's face cause that's what I do :) but I actually didn't care about this game im an NFC girl myself ;) lets go panthers

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 07:43 PM
Yeah right, if the Pats lost you'd be rubbing Yash face in it :)

:cool:

The higher we climb though, the farther/harder the fall.

But that's if we lose, which cannot happen. We just beat the only team that is even in our league. :)

The Outlaw
01-18-2004, 07:45 PM
Meh.

Guess it's time for boston fans to celebrate/boast...

:yes:

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 07:51 PM
Hey, at least they didn't beat a New York team in the playoffs :)

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 07:52 PM
that's because no New York team made the playoffs :)

Crimson
01-18-2004, 07:55 PM
:cool:

The higher we climb though, the farther/harder the fall.

But that's if we lose, which cannot happen. We just beat the only team that is even in our league. :)

The Colts' defense sucks. The Eagles/Panthers have better. Although the offenses of the NFC teams are avarage.

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 07:56 PM
Oh yeah :( .............Hey remember when Aaron Boone hit that homerun :)

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 08:20 PM
yep.

remember when the red sox signed Curt Schilling and Keith Foulke?

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 08:23 PM
remember when the yankees lost Clemens and Petite :naughty:

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 08:25 PM
remember when the bruins traded for Jiri Sleger :naughty:

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 08:32 PM
Remember when the Sox thought they were getting A-Rod :roll:

Kane Knight
01-18-2004, 08:39 PM
WOOOOOOOOOO! :cool:

VonErich Lives
01-18-2004, 09:10 PM
remember when the bruins traded for Jiri Sleger :naughty:

Remember when the Canucks traded Neely...

What? your not a Canucks fan? Well, your canadian... close enough...

The Outlaw
01-18-2004, 09:41 PM
Remember the babe? :naughty:

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 09:44 PM
Winnipeg Predators :cool:

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 10:33 PM
Remember when people constantly bring up baseball whenever talking about Boston

OH WAIT THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME

AKA NOBODY CAN SAY SHIT ABOUT THE PATS

I bet everybody will still be on Manning's dick though...those 2 HUGE playoff wins......way to go Manning....What about Tom "yea hi I've never losted a playoff game" Brady?

Y2Ant
01-18-2004, 10:39 PM
I missed Brady getting intercepted :(

I didn't miss any of the other 4 though :$

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 10:44 PM
I said Manning was a shit player today... I picked new england to win today.. I also picked carolina today :love:

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 10:46 PM
Looks like, and I can't believe I saying this, I'm going to be rooting for a team from BOSTON in two weeks. FK THE PANTHERS

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 10:49 PM
Patriots quick passing game totally eliminates Panters defensive line aka strength of their D

Dwight Freeney didnt do shit today.......no way roid head Peppers or Mike Rucker is going to do shit either

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 10:52 PM
they should just give us the rings now

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 10:55 PM
Patriots quick passing game totally eliminates Panters defensive line aka strength of their D

Well I hope your right cause I just want somebody to beat these jackasses.

NORTH EAST WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 10:55 PM
remember when the bruins traded for Jiri Sleger :naughty:

:wtf:

Slegr is a solid veteran D man and we got him for "future considerations"

AKA nothing at all

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 10:56 PM
Honestly though......I wish the Eagles won, Panthers match up better to the Patriots D then the Eagles would.

Patriots D would shut down the Eagles offensive and the Eagles defense sucks.

Panthers have nasty WR and 2 really good running backs......it should be interesting

Patriots match up really well to the Panters D too though SO WE'LL SEE

CHECK IT OUT......Yash makes a dumb comment about the Superbowl already hahaha

MoRcHeEbA
01-18-2004, 10:56 PM
SOLID VETERAN D MAN

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 10:58 PM
Delhomme just basicaly said that he's afraid of the Pats defense

thats the winning attitude.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 10:58 PM
why do you guys constantly talk about NHL................NHL sucks

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 11:01 PM
Slegr's gonna be fighting for a spot on the team, so it's not like he's our #1 man.

He's a decent D man, solid stats.

The Miz
01-18-2004, 11:01 PM
lol @ donovan wimping out

everyone still gonna ride his dick now?

Yashamaga
01-18-2004, 11:03 PM
CHECK IT OUT......Yash makes a dumb comment about the Superbowl already hahaha

oh come on now

do you really think that Carolina can beat us?

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 11:04 PM
I dont think anybody from Philly is gonna be riding his dick at all lol

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 11:04 PM
oh come on now

do you really think that Carolina can beat us?

NO FK'N WAY

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 11:05 PM
Well they made it this far....I mean they shouldnt just HAND the rings over.

I think the Patriots will beat them though

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-18-2004, 11:07 PM
AFC > NFC :cool:

HeartBreakMan2k
01-18-2004, 11:09 PM
MY HOME TEAM PICKED UP THE W! :cool:

Prediction: Panthers NFL Champions.

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 11:09 PM
I second that

Loose Cannon
01-18-2004, 11:11 PM
I second what Stima said

The Icon of Elisim
01-18-2004, 11:24 PM
I don't see why the Panthers can't win.

I mean they faced better recievers in St Louis and won. They faced a better running game in St Louis and won. They faced a secondary that was pretty close to the Pats and won.

None the less, I'll pick the Pats.

The Show Off
01-18-2004, 11:27 PM
Anytime a team in Boston is celebrating a win, I'm pissed off.

Crimson
01-18-2004, 11:51 PM
I agree wit stima, the Panthers are a better opponent than the Eagles woulda been. It will probably be like a low scoring game, I think the Pats D will be too much for Delhomme. I'll pick the Patriots, but i'll root for Carolina.

Loose Cannon
01-19-2004, 12:02 AM
Anytime a team in Boston is celebrating a win, I'm pissed off.

Me too, but for this one time only, I am rooting for A Beantown Team. They say the enemy of your enemy is your friend. :)

#1-wwf-fan
01-19-2004, 12:08 AM
In hopes of cursing New England like I do EVERY team I pick to win...

Patriots 25, Panthers 14

PsychoSport
01-19-2004, 02:44 AM
Si curse?

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2004/0119_large.jpg

Not only do the Eagles lose, but McNabb gets injured as well.

Doo doo doooo

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-19-2004, 03:11 AM
SI does seem to fu</>ck a lot of teams over. I remember back during the playoffs for baseball one week they had the cubs on the front cover in like half the nation, then the Red Sox on the cover in the other half and we all know what happened to them.

But there is also cases like when the Dolphins where undefeated, they were on the cover that season, and they werent "cursed"

VonErich Lives
01-19-2004, 03:18 AM
I'm a life long Pats fan.

That being said, of course Carolina can win.

No one thought the Pats would beat the Rams in the superbowl.

Will Carolina? I don't think so, my reasoning is Belicheck/Cronel will pick a defense to shut down Carolina.

Yes, the Pats gave that quick/short pass game, but I really don't think that's going to beat Carolina... They have a great defense and can bump the line and play physical, like the pats.

A lot will be on A. Smith and the line, if they can run and controll the clock.

As for McNab "wimping out"... No one can say that till your in the persons shoes and feel their pain. 99% of people that call an NFL player a wimp, would run crying to momma if they ever took 1/2 the force of an NFL hit.

The question now comes... who is the "Chocker" if you want to use that term, McNabb or Ried?

Reeves always took the heat of the Broncos losses (and since hasn't won the big game with other teams)

Marty Schottinhiemer is the same.

On the other hand, the Buffalo losses got hung more on Kelly then Levy.

Gertner
01-19-2004, 10:21 AM
Yash, Stima, they are all just jealous because their teams suck ass and ours can't be stopped.

Gertner
01-19-2004, 10:23 AM
btw patriots 30 panters 6

road doggy dogg
01-19-2004, 10:25 AM
LOL what is with all the ":)" from Yash. Is :naughty: going out of style or what :'(

Kris P Lettus
01-19-2004, 10:35 AM
What about Tom "yea hi I've never losted a playoff game" Brady?

He is average at best...

Yashamaga
01-19-2004, 10:40 AM
nope

:naughty:

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-19-2004, 01:17 PM
He is average at best...
I'd rather have an average WINNING playoff QB then a guy who is great in the regular season then 2 and 3 in the playoff games :yes:


And I really dont think hes average AT BEST...Throwing 1 INT at home all season including 2 playoff games is ridiculous, and I dont understand why a lot of people just think hes "decent." Probably because hes not flashy, and gets the job down instead of putting up ridiculous numbers and then not winning in the playoffs.

Y2Ant
01-19-2004, 02:46 PM
I always notice how the teams that win the superbowl, or really do well, tend not to have the 'star' quarterbacks.

e.g. Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Brady I would put in this category aswell, he's good but I think that his team-mates are a bigger reason as to why he and the Pats are doing so well this year. :-\

Yashamaga
01-19-2004, 04:31 PM
SOLID VETERAN D MAN

guess who just scored a sweet goal? :naughty:

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-19-2004, 04:45 PM
I always notice how the teams that win the superbowl, or really do well, tend not to have the 'star' quarterbacks.

e.g. Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Brady I would put in this category aswell, he's good but I think that his team-mates are a bigger reason as to why he and the Pats are doing so well this year. :-\Or "star" QBs put up more numbers because there teams arent as good, and they need to put huge numbers

You guys are talking like he puts up shitty numbers or something, I mean yea Manning and McNair put up better stats but its not like its not even close.

Its not like hes Trent Dilfer or something, and just riding the defense to the Superbowl.

The Miz
01-19-2004, 04:58 PM
I always notice how the teams that win the superbowl, or really do well, tend not to have the 'star' quarterbacks.

e.g. Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Brady I would put in this category aswell, he's good but I think that his team-mates are a bigger reason as to why he and the Pats are doing so well this year. :-\

well that's been true in the last few superbowls but if you look at the last 15 years... guys like elway, favre, warner, young, aikman are all "star" type qb's.

road doggy dogg
01-19-2004, 05:02 PM
lol @ donovan wimping out

everyone still gonna ride his dick now?

Shut the f</>uck up. He didn't wimp out you f</>ucking moron.

VonErich Lives
01-19-2004, 05:04 PM
I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming of Dan Marino or something... But this kid doesn't get enough credit.

3 years stats

2001 14gs 63.9% 2843yds 18TD 12Int 86.5% Rating
2002 16gs 62.1% 3764yds 28TD 14Int 85.7% Rating
2003 16gs 60.2% 3620yds 23TD 12Int 85.9% Rating

Not 1/2 bad... considering he's had a questionable running game, a blue collar line and avg WR's. Oh yeah, and he's 5-0 in the playoffs, 1 division title, 2 confrence titles, 1 superbowl win.

Take a look at Montana's first couple of years... and even some of the later years.
Montana had a better running game and better wr's.

http://www.profootballhof.com/index.cfm?section=team&cont_id=player&personnel_id=1302&roster_id=42&note_id=10373

Now, I'm not calling Brady, the next Montana, we'll know in 10yrs... But let's remember, Montana was never the "Deep Passer" or "Big, Strong Armed" like Manning or Marino. He was a smart qb, made good decisions and didn't crack under pressure.

The Miz
01-19-2004, 05:05 PM
lol spaz

i don't see how you can choose to sit out when you're the best player on your team and your season's on the line. players have played through worse.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-19-2004, 05:12 PM
I heard Reid wouldn't let him back in but who knows

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-19-2004, 05:13 PM
I would put the blame on the Eagles WR.......they suck ass

The Panthers had the conors play man all day....and since the WR couldnt get free the safeties didnt need to help so they could just play the run.

Eagles = JV Version of the Buffallo Bills (in the 90's)

VonErich Lives
01-19-2004, 05:14 PM
lol spaz

i don't see how you can choose to sit out when you're the best player on your team and your season's on the line. players have played through worse.

So you think.

You have no idea what the pain was like, or what the injury was.

What if he played and threw pics because he couldn't complete the throwing motion?

The Miz
01-19-2004, 05:14 PM
I heard Reid wouldn't let him back in but who knows

if that's the case, my bad.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-19-2004, 05:15 PM
either way though, McNabb and the Eagles should be feeling like shit.....Losing 3 staright NFC Championship games and 2 staright at home..that must suck haha

The Miz
01-19-2004, 05:16 PM
So you think.

You have no idea what the pain was like, or what the injury was.

What if he played and threw pics because he couldn't complete the throwing motion?

his presence alone can create something. eagles players & eagles fans can rally behind a 50% donovan mcnabb much quicker than they can a 100% koy detmer. once detmer was in everyone knew the game was over.

#1-wwf-fan
01-19-2004, 07:44 PM
That Pats D makes Brady look better than he actually is.

DegenerationY
01-19-2004, 08:02 PM
holy shit @ that huge hit in the 4th quarter.

Also, Ty Law had one of the best games of his career.

Pats are winning it all again.

#1-wwf-fan
01-19-2004, 09:48 PM
Also, David Thornton is one of the most underrated players in the NFL. I don't think I've seen him make one mistake. Just because he doesn't make the huge plays, he doesn't get the recognition he deserves. On ESPNNews when they were going over the game, on that 3rd down when the Pats could have put the game away, they kept saying that the pass was dropped and never even mentioned Thornton although he made a great play getting his hands behind the reciever's and knocking the ball down.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Thornton is a linebacker right?

Its kinda hard to go unnoticed at Linebacker, you get a lot of tackles..you get noticed. I mean Ray Lewis stands out the most becuase hes a great player...plus he goes nuts out there on the field but then there is also guys like Urlacher who just make so many tackles.

I really haven't heard much about this guy, but I am guessing he has around 90-100 tackles? Which is pretty good but not outstanding or anything.

#1-wwf-fan
01-20-2004, 01:45 AM
He lead the league in tackles through atleast 10 weeks of the season.

He ended the year with 145 total tackles.

Y2Ant
01-20-2004, 03:50 AM
well that's been true in the last few superbowls but if you look at the last 15 years... guys like elway, favre, warner, young, aikman are all "star" type qb's.

Shit, forgot about Elway :$:$:$

For the past few years though it's been more of a team effort rather than a star QB effort still :o

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-20-2004, 12:04 PM
He lead the league in tackles through atleast 10 weeks of the season.

He ended the year with 145 total tackles.He had that many?

I havent really heard much about him......Probably doesnt get a lot of coverage because the best guy on the Colts D is Dwight Freeney

KingofOldSchool
01-20-2004, 07:21 PM
LOL.

The Colts, much like the Pacers, choked as usual in the playoffs.

The Super Bowl will suck now regardless.

No one cares about the Panthers or Patriots defense.

VonErich Lives
01-20-2004, 07:49 PM
The real question is, if the Pats win... where does this team rank on the all-time list?

2nd longest winning steak in nfl history.

Did the 85 bears dominate more? maybe, but the league is tougher now... back then 1/2 the teams knew every year they lose over 1/2 their games.

Now it's wide open, with the salary cap and all, everyone competes...

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-20-2004, 08:12 PM
Why is everyone so set on this being a boring Superbowl?

Its going to be a close game....its not going to be a blow out like last year.

MoRcHeEbA
01-20-2004, 08:18 PM
im more pumped about this superbowl then I have in I think the last 5 superbowls.. I don't get why people think it's gonna be boring... I think it's gonna end up a really good game.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-20-2004, 08:22 PM
In the next couple of days its going to start getting hyped up more and more and then I think people will start to be into it.

Personally I've only seen one Superbowl I thought was boring (9ers smoking the Chargers a few years back)

MoRcHeEbA
01-20-2004, 08:27 PM
I wassn't a big fan of the Giants and Ravens a couple years ago... I found that game did nothing for me :-\

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-20-2004, 08:31 PM
I liked it because of Ray Lewis

one of my favorite players

The Outlaw
01-20-2004, 10:04 PM
Giants - Ravens was ****ing sick.

If I remember correctly. The one that had back to back kick returns? If so, :eek:

Also, if thats the one, :lol: @ the defensive holding call.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-21-2004, 12:12 AM
Yea I am pretty sure it had back to back kick off returns

I dont really remember everything about it though.....i totally forgot about that until you brought it up

The Outlaw
01-21-2004, 02:45 AM
I liked that game.

Although from what I remember it was a total blowout haha

The kickoff returns just pumped me up I guess.

#1-wwf-fan
01-21-2004, 07:34 AM
The Colts, much like the Pacers, choked as usual in the playoffs.


lol So if you don't make it to the super bowl, you "choked?"

This was their best year with Manning and they lost by 11 on the road to a team that had won 13 straight and were pretty big favorites.

VonErich Lives
01-21-2004, 09:08 AM
So, if the Pats win the superbowl and then win a few in a row next season, what's more impressive, the Phins going 17-0 in a season, or winning 20 straight over 2 seasons.

This came up with tiger a few years ago, they wouldn't call him a grand champ or sumthin because he won all the majors, but not in order so it happened in the same year.

On a side note, the Pats will just get better. I think only a few people have contracts up.

Law, Woody, Huard.

I assume Huard will be gone and I tend to think Woody is also, where he's playing Gaurd for the Pats another team would pay him more to play Center.

Law, it depends, if he wants to be the highest paid player in the league he's gone... but I think he stays, and that Pats pay'em.

Also, don't forget this great defense was missing possible their best LB... Colvin... Imagine how sick it would have been with him healthy.

Plus, they have 2 first round picks next year.

As for the Colts, next year is the last of the "Big 3" I think Mannings contract is up this year and then Harrison and James the next year... No way you devote 50% of your cap to 3 players on offense.

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-21-2004, 10:36 AM
Huard is gone

They are going to sign Kliff Kingsbury from the practice squad and make Davey the back up

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-21-2004, 10:36 AM
Or maybe they will draft another QB.....I dunno.......they drafted Kliff Kingsbury last year though so who knows

VonErich Lives
01-21-2004, 01:56 PM
Or maybe they will draft another QB.....I dunno.......they drafted Kliff Kingsbury last year though so who knows

That's the rumor, much like GB drafted a few QB's that got delt and started for other teams while they had Favre.

The only thing that could keep Huard is if he takes a big paycut, which who knows... He doesn't even hold kickoffs, so maybe 100K to hold a clipboard and have a shot at a ring is worth it to him.

That being said, every QB wants to start... so who knows...

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-21-2004, 10:28 PM
Kliff Kingsbury had a mullet

I dunno.....Im not a big fan of mullets

The Outlaw
01-22-2004, 03:27 PM
LOL He is the man though. :mad:

Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-23-2004, 12:18 AM
They will probably draft some random guy like Jeff Smoker or something

I DUNNO though.....Smoker might be gone too high in the draft.

The Outlaw
01-23-2004, 03:25 AM
JEFF SMOKERRRRR

He got smoked in his bowl game though.