More Heat For The Juice

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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

-- There is some major backstage heat on Juventud for using some wrestlers’ signature moves. Chris Benoit talked to Juventud and told him to apologize to these wrestlers. Despite the talk, it’s now two weeks later and still no apologies have been made.

The feeling backstage is that Juventud knows that Vince and Johnny Ace both like him, so he figures he’s immune to any backstage troubles.

Psycosis and Super Crazy don’t hang out with him backstage because of how he’s been acting. They no longer travel with him because they don’t want any of his heat to come off on them. Juventud’s new travel partner is Bob Orton.

[Kane Knight]

LOL

[Xero]

I feel sorry for Bob.

[LK]

Bloody hell there must be some real sparkling conversation between those two.

[The Naitch]

The Juice is the shit :rofl:

[The Naitch]

Juvi is hilarious

First he ignores management by showing off his chest with baby oil, and now this.


I can't wait for the next incident

[The Naitch]

Where's that pic of Mysterio holding baby Juvi?

[The Naitch]

Wouldn't be surprised if he gets caught running around the hotel lobby naked

[Xero]

I wish I had heard that conversation...

Benoit: Listen man, I want you to apologize to everyone who you've stolen a move from and made it look better...

Juvi: K, who?

*Benoit unravels a 10 foot long sheet of paper*

Benoit: (Clears throat).... Triple H.

Juvi: Are you for real!?

Benoit: I'M FOR REEEEEAAALLLLLZZZZ!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

Most hillarious thing ever was when Juvi was holding a picture of Torri in a magazine or something and he starts doing cock thrusts to the picture while on camera. :lol:

[The Naitch]

lol

[The Naitch]

never watched him in WCW, but after reading this, I am an official fan of The Juice

[The Naitch]

That'd be sweet if he went solo and his gimmick was based on pissing off people backstage and getting away with it :lol:

[The Naitch]

From obsessediwthwrestling.com

(2002) Eric Bischoff and Juventud Guerrera had a tense confrontation, backstage at the WWA Pay Per View. Juvi came up to Bischoff and said "how's it going, boss?". Bischoff's response was something like Weren't you one of the guys who signed a petition to get me fired?, in response to what occurred after Bash at the Beach 2000. After Russo let Hogan become World Champion from an easy Jarrett defeat, Russo cut a promo on Hogan, and then declared that the REAL title match would be Booker T vs. Jeff Jarrett instead. After this incident, WCW wrestler Konnan sent around a petitition to get wrestlers to back Russo instead of Eric Bischoff. Bischoff told Juvi that he'd never forget that, to which Juvi apparently responded "But I'm still real, and I'm still the juice", to whatever that means.

Bischoff ran down the entire Vince Russo clique (such as Jeff Jarrett, etc.), or wrestlers close to Russo during late 1999 or during 2000, and said that they couldn't make it in wrestling today.

Eric Bischoff apparently told friends Earnest Miller and Ric Steiner to not sign any contracts with any of the start-up federations, like the WWA.

[Kane Knight]

Wgo wants hot juice? :wtf:

[hb2k]

C'mon Juvi, don't screw up a big chance. Again.

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Rofl, I'd say the reason The Juice is travelling with Bob is because he wants to know what Bob taught Randy. :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Rofl, I'd say the reason The Juice is travelling with Bob is because he wants to know what Bob taught Randy. :shifty:

Which part? Shitting in handbags, or botching Diamond Cutters?

[Impact!]

A little from column A, A little from column B

[BlackDawn2024]

The Juice>>>All

:yes:

[Dorkchop]

Da yuice is takee ova. DA YUICE!

[PullMyFinger]

Hahahaha

Juice is the shit!

[Destor]

Man, you guys love your 'roids.

[BigDaddyCool]

I don't watch smackdown because I work friday nights, someone fill me in.

[The Naitch]

nothing to fill in since this is backstage stuff

[Destor]

They have midgets, BDC. :nono:

[The Naitch]

and Orton is champ :nono:

[BigDaddyCool]

and Orton is champ :nono:

You are shitting me right?

[BigDaddyCool]

also, who's moves has Juvi been stealing?

[The Naitch]

You are shitting me right?

jk

I havent seen Juvi use anyones' moves yet. Maybe he's been using them at house shows :lol:

[snakeboss]

he has stole the 450 pin, it was in his first match on Paul London and he fucked up London's face.

[JTB31]

Well I know he has stolen the Rock's catch phrases in the past lol

[Lara Emily]

he has stole the 450 pin, it was in his first match on Paul London and he fucked up London's face.


Umm he's used the 450 for god knows how long now.

[snakeboss]

aw right, I just thought he was mocking London cuz London also uses the 450.

[Impact!]

Ummmm, if you use another persons finisher in the WWE its like plagurism, as it's your finisher is one of the things you are no for by the fans. If he was using it out of WWE it doesnt matter, it's what they do within the WWE that counts.

[JTB31]

Why isn't Eugene told to stop using other peoples finishers? lol

Maybe that's whe was suspended lol

[High Impact v.W.o]

Your an idiot, it's part of his gimmick. Fuck you must either be a Mark or either severely retarded. Unless of course you were joking, in which case shut up.

[Lara Emily]

Ummmm, if you use another persons finisher in the WWE its like plagurism, as it's your finisher is one of the things you are no for by the fans. If he was using it out of WWE it doesnt matter, it's what they do within the WWE that counts.


Well except you can't steal something you've been doing for years, long before the person you are being accused of stealing it from even started wrestling.

[High Impact v.W.o]

Yes, but I believe IP means that unless you were doing that in the WWE first they (the WWE) will not count it.

For example, if someone had of used the stunner before Austin did, and they came into the WWE, if they used the Stunner, it wouldnt matter that they used it first they would have gotten their walking orders faster than..well i dunno, but pretty fast I'd believe.

If that makes sense, then yeah.

[Lara Emily]

Yes, but I believe IP means that unless you were doing that in the WWE first they (the WWE) will not count it.

For example, if someone had of used the stunner before Austin did, and they came into the WWE, if they used the Stunner, it wouldnt matter that they used it first they would have gotten their walking orders faster than..well i dunno, but pretty fast I'd believe.

If that makes sense, then yeah.


Yeah but then again Paul London is not Steve Austin.

Yeah I get what he's saying, but that line of thinking is pretty silly considering who we are talking about, these guys aren't exactly top carders so really why should the WWE care if they have two cruiserweights doing the same move. Neither of them sadly will ever really get a serious push.

[High Impact v.W.o]

Once again, yes I agree with you, and if it was another move they probably wouldnt care, but since its a move that get's good pops from the crowd (as it looks very good when done right) and since it gets decent pops, it really is a move they probably would rather have for one wrestler to use, as the more its used, the less people will pop for it.

Also the WWE have now banned the move, and were pretty worried about it beforehand anyway, so two people using a move they already dislike, isnt something they would probably like.

[Kane Knight]

Well except you can't steal something you've been doing for years, long before the person you are being accused of stealing it from even started wrestling.

Way to miss the point, fanboy.

[loopydate]

What makes this Juvi-"stealing"-the-450 thing even weirder is that the only reason he uses a 450 as his finisher in the first place is because when he came in, he couldn't use a Shooting Star Press (his finisher in the indies) because Billy Kidman was already using it.

[Sepholio]

What makes this Juvi-"stealing"-the-450 thing even weirder is that the only reason he uses a 450 as his finisher in the first place is because when he came in, he couldn't use a Shooting Star Press (his finisher in the indies) because Billy Kidman was already using it.

Wasn't the 450 splash pin his finisher back through his entire stint in WCW?

[Kane Knight]

What makes this Juvi-"stealing"-the-450 thing even weirder is that the only reason he uses a 450 as his finisher in the first place is because when he came in, he couldn't use a Shooting Star Press (his finisher in the indies) because Billy Kidman was already using it.

What makes it even weirder is the number of wrestlers who use one or two moves.

Would't it be cool if there was some level of innovation within the Cruiserweights?

[Fox]

Wouldn't it be cool if there was ANY innovation within the cruiserweights?


Also, I can't wait until The Rock comes back and cuts a promo on Juventud. It's been a long time coming.

[Kane Knight]

Innovation?

IKNOW! Maybe theycan break each other open withlightbulbs!

Wait...I'm not Sadistic.

[GODSON]

This is why the WWE suck and am surprise Benoit would be against this? This is wrestling,use wrestling moves. It's not like Juvi stole a finishing move.

[Kane Knight]

This is why the WWE suck and am surprise Benoit would be against this? This is wrestling,use wrestling moves. It's not like Juvi stole a finishing move.

Shut the Hell up, tardboy.

[Volare]

for the love of god TY

[Loose Cannon]

Shut the Hell up, tardboy.

GODSON reported this to me like I'm gonna do something:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Loose Cannon]

don't you love the Communist regime we run here

[Kane Knight]

GODSON reported this to me like I'm gonna do something:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

OMG You're gonna mod me!

[loopydate]

Wasn't the 450 splash pin his finisher back through his entire stint in WCW?

It was, indeed. He probably used it Mexico before that, although I don't know that for sure.

By all rights, he should have been allowed to use the 450. Now that Kidman's gone, London should be allowed to go back to using the SSP, which was better than Kidman's anyway. It's odd that Juvi isn't allowed to use his own move because someone else uses it, but the other guy only uses it because he couldn't use his finisher because someone else was using it when he debuted. Pretty asinine thinking by WWE.

Then again, who's surprised?

[Loose Cannon]

LOL, just reading about him on wikipedia. Fogot about all this

Juvi was released from WCW after an "incident" in Australia where Juvi embarrassed the company by making a scene publicly while under the influence of what was believed to be PCP. The night before he smoked an unknown substance given to him by an unknown party at a nightclub. The next morning he ran into the hotel lobby and began attacking everyone in sight, including other wrestlers. It was his second offense as he had a previous DUI against him.

[Funky Fly]

Just modded KK.

[Loose Cannon]

ROFL @ Juvi attacking everyone in sight

[Loose Cannon]

lol, just give him a whole show

[Funky Fly]

They should leave PCP lying around backstage and just let him do whatever the fuck he wants during the Smackdown tapings.

[The Naitch]

lol well if Vince and Johnny Ace likes him, then atleast we're guaranteed (hopefully) more Juvi on TV.

also just noticed that he's a babyface right now :lol:

[Kane Knight]

Just modded KK.

OMG UR A NAZIS

[The Naitch]

That was the reason the Rock singled him out - I remember the first time Juvi did it, he did the People's Elbow, then went right up to the camera, and yelled "I know my role baby!".

Funny story from Juvi's shoot interview: On one flight to a show, Juvi was situated on the plane, and Rock walked on and sat a few rows ahead of Juvi. Juvi, the whole time, was hoping that Rock wouldn't notice him, because of the gimmick stealing thing...Flight ended, Juvi waits until everybody else is off before getting up and out, hoping to avoid seeing Rock. He walks out the plane, and standing there, waiting for him, is Rock. Rock then proceeds to compliment Juvi on his in-ring skill and wants him to know that he thinks he's really talented. Juvi, as a result, loves the Rock now.

[TerranRich]

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Bob Orton: Come on, you crazy little Mexican! Let's splurge for the double-bed room this time 'round!
Juventud: Que?

[Skippord]

OMG UR A NAZIS

Sig HEIL :foc:

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OMG UR A NAZIS
Heeeeeeeeeeeere, Jabba, Jabba, Jabba, Here nazi


:shifty:

[Skippord]

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:wtf: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[The Naitch]

THERE IT IS! :D

Someone posted that after news surfaced about Rey Mysterio having to "babysit" Juvi backstage. This was around the time when The Mexicools debuted.