Super Bowl XL Thread

[RoXer]

Yeah, lets not clog up the other thread.

So yeah, Steelers all the way.

[RoXer]

Oh. We're still an hour an 17 minutes away.

[VonErich Lives]

*waits for someone to start pissing ahd moaning about the person flipping the coin* :)

[D Mac]

Official TPWW poll results:

Whos gonna win?

Steelers: 18

Seahawks: 8

[The Miz]

http://images.forbes.com/media/lists/53/2005/FZ6E.jpg

"This is more fun than flipping a coin"

[D Mac]

How about instead of flipping a coin, each team picks 2 guys, the ref throws the ball down the field and the first guy to get it wins the possesion for his team?


:shifty:

[RoXer]

we want the ball and were going to score first

[punt]

2 words for you, my TPWW friends ..............................................







GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VonErich Lives]

http://images.forbes.com/media/lists/53/2005/FZ6E.jpg

"This is more fun than flipping a coin"

I'm just worried he might hurt his hernia if he flips it to hard :)

[Disturbed316]

What do you think the score will be?

[D Mac]

How about instead of flipping a coin, each team picks 2 guys, the ref throws the ball down the field and the first guy to get it wins the possesion for his team?


:shifty:

XFL anyone? :shifty:

[D Mac]

What do you think the score will be?

31 - 28 Steelers

[Disturbed316]

I guessing it to be a low, but close scoring game, about 16 - 12 Steelers.

[RoXer]

3-2

[punt]

27-13 STEELERS!!!

[D Mac]

1-0 on a walk off home run by Jerrome Bettis.

[D Mac]

Joe Namath to Suzy Kolber: "I wanna kiss you."

[D Mac]

Dammit if Detroit would have beaten Pitt. the last game of the season that would be the Chiefs there BELIEVE IT. :mad:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Worst anthem rendition ever

[Bazooka]

well, it's safe to say that the partiots won't be winning for another consecutive year... I haven't really been following football this season aside from a game once and awhile.

anyway, I'll watch the superbowl cause it's a huge event. Let's go Seahawks.

Seahawks win and I don't want to guess a score, maybe 27 - 21, so I did.

[punt]

Worst anthem rendition ever

Ummmm ........ have you forgotten Carl Lewis?

[D Mac]

Ozzy Osbourne singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame. :)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ummmm ........ have you forgotten Carl Lewis?

I have pretty much erased it from my memory, yes

[D Mac]

Ummmm ........ have you forgotten Carl Lewis?

"UH OH" "I'm gonna make up for it now"


NO YOU WON'T

[RP]

Seahawks 31 Steelers 24

Matt Hasleback MVP

[D Mac]

Boooing Brady

[RP]

I'm pretty sure they just announced Bill Levy as Tom Brady's agent. It all makes sense now.

[Loose Cannon]

LOL, Tom Brady's been reduced to flipping coins

[Loose Cannon]

:rofl:

[D Mac]

Joe Namath to Suzy Kolber: "I wanna kiss you."

He wanted to kiss THAT.

[RoXer]

poorly at that

[RP]

Tom Brady gave that laugh like " Haha ohhh man get me out of here "

[D Mac]

Ouch

[D Mac]

Field goal upcoming

[D Mac]

Nice catch.

[RGWhat316]

C'mon Steelers! Pretty even so far, both teams not getting too far down the field. But Pitt has the best chance right now, 1 yard line.

[D Mac]

I'd challenge that.

[D Mac]

Close one.

[RoXer]

Didn't get it

[RoXer]

Or did. What do I know.

[RGWhat316]

HAHA! Steelers are on the board now!

[D Mac]

Inconclusive evedence to overturn it I guess.

[D Mac]

Nice job there Holmgren.

[D Mac]

Time for another boring Halftime.

[RGWhat316]

Yeah, we got the Rolling Stones to look forward too.:shifty:

[RP]

Stones kicked ass:love:

[MVP]

GREATEST FUCKING HALFTIME SHOW EVER :love:

[RoXer]

wooooooo

[Rob]

Inconclusive evedence to overturn it I guess.

Now I don't know dick about American Football but even I knew that wasn't a touchdown.

[RP]

HAHA Jeremy Stevens scored a td.

[RP]

Wheres your Joey Porter now Pittsburgh

[D Mac]

Pitt could end it right here.

[D Mac]

NICE PLAY

[D Mac]

If this play stands It's over.

[DaveWadding]

In case you missed it: Matt Hasselbeck is the worst quarterback in the World.

[D Mac]

They better hope for a 3 and out I think.

[D Mac]

ITS OVER

[D Mac]

Your Super Bowl XL Champions

The Pittsburgh Steelers

[Hired Hitman]

I was hoping the seahawks would have gotten that last attempt at a touchdown, would have made the score look better. :-\

I was backing the steelers, so i'm happy :cool:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

In case you missed it: Matt Hasselbeck is the worst quarterback in the World.

I'm sure he's jealous that he's not the fine specimen that you are.

[punt]

SUPER BOWL XL CHAMPS

THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!

[Gertner]

wow. very boring game this year. actually turned to the Arturo Gatti fight during the game

[BCWWF]

Overall a pretty boring game. The first touchdown by Big Ben clearly never crossed the line. Then there was another iffy call that went the Steelers way, can't remember it though. Anyway, Seahawks passing game just couldn't cut it I guess.

As for Tom Brady, I don't really mind seeing him there. He fits with the Aikman's, Rice's, Namath's, etc., he deserved to be there, but if I was him I wouldn't want to do the coin toss.

[OssMan]

better than last year

[Gertner]

how the fuck can u say it was better than last year?

[Gonzo]

Maybe he thought it was?

I don't know, glad the Steelers won I guess but I didn't really care who won this that bad.

[Gertner]

probably a jealous eagles fan

[OssMan]

how the fuck can u say it was better than last year?
You like the Patriots. I hate the Patriots and the Eagles

I kinda like Steelers and dont care about Seahawks

A lot different than last years. Dunno there were a lot of bizarre plays and the Patriots are the same in every single game and this one seemed a lot closer

[Gonzo]

AssMan rides with the GMen, no mistakes to be made there.

[Joey Slugs]

boring ass game. should of been 17-14 Seattle but oh the fuck well.

when does spring training start?

[The Icon of Elisim]

Overall a pretty boring game. The first touchdown by Big Ben clearly never crossed the line. Then there was another iffy call that went the Steelers way, can't remember it though. Anyway, Seahawks passing game just couldn't cut it I guess.


You talking about Jackson's TD that was called back for pass interference, or Hasselback's tackle on his int?

[Skippord]

how the fuck can u say it was better than last year?

Any superbowl not involving the A.Patriots B.Chiefs C.Raiders is good

[D Mac]

Any superbowl not involving the A.Patriots B.Broncos C.Raiders is good

[The Outlaw]

Wow. Worst called game ever. Personal foul, blocking below the waist on Matt Hasselbeck? When he made the tackle on an INT? Yeah, nice one. Made it even worse that the play after on the reverse pass Ben actually did do a cut block. The pass intro was bullshit. The holding call was bullshit before the interception. Big Ben's TD was bullshit. Everytime Seattle got a big play it was called back. I guess they got The Bus a ring though and that was the whole story to this SuperBowl? Now even though we have heard about The Bus coming home ever since the NFC/AFC C'Ship games, we will hear all about it until training camp starts. And they will show his parents over and over and over...

Had the potential to be a good game but that was not the case...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I posted this is the NFL thread cuz I didnt see this one, but it was fitting to see Stevens drop the last pass of the game after being laid out by Joey Porter. Kinda feel bad for Seattle though, only have 1 championship EVER in any sport. Well maybe 2 if you wanna count U Dub football sharing the National Championship in '91

Also maybe I am biased but I dunno why everyone hates on the Patriots being the Superbowl, granted they have been there a lot lately but 2 out of the 3 games where decided in the last seconds, and last years they only won by 3.

So is being the QB on the losing Superbowl team better then being the guy tossing the coin cuz you got 2 Superbowl MVPs?

[Joey Slugs]

Wow. Worst called game ever. Personal foul, blocking below the waist on Matt Hasselbeck? When he made the tackle on an INT? Yeah, nice one. Made it even worse that the play after on the reverse pass Ben actually did do a cut block. The pass intro was bullshit. The holding call was bullshit before the interception. Big Ben's TD was bullshit. Everytime Seattle got a big play it was called back. I guess they got The Bus a ring though and that was the whole story to this SuperBowl? Now even though we have heard about The Bus coming home ever since the NFC/AFC C'Ship games, we will hear all about it until training camp starts. And they will show his parents over and over and over...

Had the potential to be a good game but that was not the case...


:y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y::y:

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm not totally sure Ben's touchdown was bullshit lol. I mean it was really close yeah, but it wasnt like he was clearly not in or something. The push off in the endzone was a bad call because they never call stuff like that, even though they probably should.

If you want to blame anything, I would blame probably the two worst 2 minute drill performances in the history of the Superbowl by the Seahawks. I thought the 2 minute drill the Seahawks attempted to run at the end of the 1st half was awful but their 2nd 2 minute drill in the 4th was even worse - which is hard to believe.

[Bob Sanders]

Ref's cheated for the Steelers. Everyone wants to see Bettis get a Superbowl ring.

[Skippord]

Any superbowl not involving the A.Patriots B.Well we dont need to worry about the Chiefs C.Raiders is good

[BCWWF]

Icon, the one that I couldn't remember was the pushoff. In slow motion it looked like a "maybe" call, but in full speed it was a legit play.

As for the Roethlisburger TD, I think it was pretty clear exactly where the ball was the whole time. His head and part of the body got over the line, but you could see the ball the whole time, and it literally got as close to the line without going over as you possibly can.

I agree with Outlaw, in the pregame I was thinking to myself, this has the potential to be a really cool game. The Seahawks have some cool players and it's a rare matchup of teams, but it turned out to be kind of boring most of the time. Too bad.

[BCWWF]

Icon, the one that I couldn't remember was the pushoff. In slow motion it looked like a "maybe" call, but in full speed it was a legit play.

As for the Roethlisburger TD, I think it was pretty clear exactly where the ball was the whole time. His head and part of the body got over the line, but you could see the ball the whole time, and it literally got as close to the line without going over as you possibly can.

I agree with Outlaw, in the pregame I was thinking to myself, this has the potential to be a really cool game. The Seahawks have some cool players and it's a rare matchup of teams, but it turned out to be kind of boring most of the time. Too bad.

[VonErich Lives]

LOL, Tom Brady's been reduced to flipping coins

Funny side note, I think back in 2003, Belicheck stopped letting Brady call the coin flip cause he lost like 10 in a row. :)

[VonErich Lives]

hmm... no post game post from The Miz????

[VonErich Lives]

So, I've been sick all weekend. So, I watched a few mins and fell asleep.

I check the score and say "ok, looked like a decent game" then I see the box score and the stats and go "hmm, looked kinda ugly" then I turn on the radio and everyone has been ripping both teams apart.

Someone who watched the whole thing tell me, was it really this ugly or is everyone just getting carried away?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Oh yeah, so much for the Bengals taking over their division, everybody was talking about how the Bengals got over the hump and are now better then the Steelers and then the Steelers go and win the Superbowl

[VonErich Lives]

Oh yeah, so much for the Bengals taking over their division, everybody was talking about how the Bengals got over the hump and are now better then the Steelers and then the Steelers go and win the Superbowl

Umm, yeah... no one can say for sure but the outcome might have been a bit different if say... Palmer didn't get injured on his first pass.

Seriously, take away the start QB from most teams especially during a game and it make a big difference, you should know that.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

No I know but I'm just saying after the regular season and the Bengals won the division title everyone was like "theres a new sheriff in town" then the Steelers go on to win the Superbowl. Kind of ironic how the Steelers finally win the Superbowl when they are a wildcard team instead of a division champ, which they have been over and over for the last few years.

[The Outlaw]

So, I've been sick all weekend. So, I watched a few mins and fell asleep.

I check the score and say "ok, looked like a decent game" then I see the box score and the stats and go "hmm, looked kinda ugly" then I turn on the radio and everyone has been ripping both teams apart.

Someone who watched the whole thing tell me, was it really this ugly or is everyone just getting carried away?

I wouldn't call it ugly. Like I said, it COULD HAVE been a classic, but that was not the case.

I listened to Dan Patrick on the way home just now and he basically said the Steelers "did what they had to do to win". They got dominated in basically every aspect of the game, but whenever Seattle got a big play, a hold or an intro or a block below the waist or something was called. It wasn't the number of penalties (becauseI don't even know how many there were?) but it's when they called them. That's always the case. The main beef I have with the Pass Interferance call was that the ref waited until the defender ran to him and got in his face saying he got pushed off. THEN he threw the flag. Same thing with the TD Big Ben had. The ref came running in with one hand up signalling he didn't get it, then Ben pushed the ball over (after he was down) and he signals TD? Ben's helmet broke the plane, the ball came close but it didn't. Refs are programmed to signal everything without hesitation, and these did not. The officiating in this game was atrocious, as well as the whole playoffs basically.

I guess they are saying it was ugly because of the turnovers and the horrible clock management at the end of the first and second halfs by the Hawks. The 'Hawks basically got robbed of two touchdowns, and Pitt was given one. Other than three big plays by the Steelers, they had nothing. 76 yard TD run, 49 yard pass on 3rd and 19 or 23 or something similar, and the reverse pass which I am guessing was 50+ yards.

[Gonzo]

The thing about the whole bit with the defender whining to the ref to get the flag, WR's do it all the time so I can't really feel for Seattle on that one. I didn't see the holding call or the suspect cut block which wasn't a cut block by Hasselbeck cause I was in the shitter, so I can't say anything about those.

I do have a question though, I was listening to the radio this morning and they mentioned that Hasselbeck dove for the blocker's knees of a player who was in front of the ball carrier, and not actually the ball carrier. I don't know if they saw something else or this is incorrect, but I remember this specific situation coming up earlier this year and they called it a penalty. I don't know can someone clarify?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well it kinda looked he hit both the blocker and the ball carrier below the knees, so I don't know.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I do have a question though, I was listening to the radio this morning and they mentioned that Hasselbeck dove for the blocker's knees of a player who was in front of the ball carrier, and not actually the ball carrier. I don't know if they saw something else or this is incorrect, but I remember this specific situation coming up earlier this year and they called it a penalty. I don't know can someone clarify?

Yeah I remember that as well, I dunno for some reason I keep thinking it's when Bulger injured himself against the Colts but I'm not sure.

[RGWhat316]

I'm still excited for the Steelers winning the Super Bowl this year. It wasn't a horrible game, but it wasn't really up there with the Super Bowl classics. Pittsburgh played like crap in the first half, but they picked it up enough to win. Some calls were iffy, but Seattle was off. Hasselbeck had a lot of overthrown passes in which I believe led to the fall of Seattle this year.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/fifthbenpicture.jpg

Take that, Dan Marino

[Fryza]

Meh, after reading this thread, the only good thing about the Bowl seems to be Tom Brady doing the coin flip...

[VonErich Lives]

Meh, after reading this thread, the only good thing about the Bowl seems to be Tom Brady doing the coin flip...

They said after the flip he shook hands with the Seahawks and went to shake hands with the Steelers the they blew him off.

Really, this team has no class at all...

but yeah, everything I'm hearing/reading the game was horrible.

Both teams played like crap, made stupid mistakes etc..
The Refs sucked like they have all post season.
even the 1/2 time show is getting crapped on.

first Super Bowl I've missed in a long time, looks like I picked a good one to be sick/sleep during. :)

[The Miz]

Well I can't say I'm surprised. Two very talented teams, one with a HOF coach and one with a moron. Walking into haltime with 3 points was a joke. I literally threw up in my mouth at the execution at the end of the 1st half. Obviously the officiating sucked but I refuse to believe that we could've won with Holmgren on the sideline.

Alot of people are pissed at Hasselbeck for that INT; I'm not mad at him, overall he played pretty well against a very tough defense. I'm madder at Alexander, its easy to scapegoat the QB but Alexander in no way stepped up and acted like he wanted to take the game in his hands. He's supposed to be the MVP right? An MVP would've taken control of the game; an MVP is Emmit Smith, Terrell Davis, and Walter Payton. Shaun Alexander is a very good running back who has great stats but is content with that. Alexander is happy with winning his little rushing title and NFC championship but the great ones get determined to win the whole thing.

The Seahawks were happy to be there, the Steelers weren't; they were determined to win. Game over.

[The Miz]

Also Joey Porter didn't lay out Stevens at the end of the game, he did an awesome job of standing next to the guy who did and talking a lot of shit though. I'm not quite sure where he was when Stevens found the endzone.

[samichna]

Wooooooo won some money.

[VonErich Lives]

Alot of people are pissed at Hasselbeck for that INT; I'm not mad at him, overall he played pretty well against a very tough defense. I'm madder at Alexander, its easy to scapegoat the QB but Alexander in no way stepped up and acted like he wanted to take the game in his hands. He's supposed to be the MVP right? An MVP would've taken control of the game; an MVP is Emmit Smith, Terrell Davis, and Walter Payton.

As stated, I slept through most the game...

I'm just looking at stats

Alexander 20 for 95. that's a 4.75yd avg
take away his longest run of 21
he's 19 for 74 that's a 3.89yd avg.

Not sure what you wanted him to do, if the coach doesn't give him the ball.

Hasselbeck 26/49 that's a completion % of .53

Dunno, looks to me both player given that they had to work with, Alexander had a pretty decent game.

Also, if you're not going to fault Hasselbeck because he faced a great D, how can you fault a guy who avg 4.75/yds per carry against a defense that was 3rd in the league in rushing yds allowed for the season, first in the league in yds per rush allowed (league, not confrence).

I just don't understand your logic in blaming alexander while giving Hasselbeck a pass.

Incase you were wondering, Pittsburg was 3rd in the league in sacks, otherwise they're passing D stats were pretty average (middle of the league).

[The Miz]

Well the first thing I mentioned in my post was the coaching, obviously Holmgren needed to draw up more plays for Alexander and Hasslebeck should never throw the ball 50 times in a game, ever. I don't fault Alexander for not getting the ball more but for some reason I don't see Emmitt Smith sitting on the bench not doing anything about it. Alexander needs to tell Holmgren, look asshole, I'm the MVP, give me the ball.

Statistically Alexander and Hasselbeck both had good, not near great games. But Alexander is supposed to be not only the best RB but the best PLAYER in football. Hasslebeck is just supposed to be a good QB. You knew somewhere I would tie this to baseball, if Manny Ramirez and Alex Cora both put up a line of (.313/.357/.429) with 1 homer on the losing end of a playoff series; who are you going to be more dissapointed in? Manny is the best hitter in the world and hit performed like a just above average one. Cora is lucky to be in a starting 9 and he performed like an above average major-leaguer. That's how I feel with my team, nobody asked Hasselbeck to throw for 350 yards and 4 TD's because he isn't that kind of QB. People expected alot more out of Shawn because he is the MVP and he played like a decent running back.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Porter was probably in the same spot when Stevens dropped 3 passes.

"It's a great story but it will be sad when the Bus leaves without a ring"


Stevens = "FredEx"

"And whats that other guys name? yeah #37?"

[Gonzo]

Yeah I thought it was pretty funny that Stevens dropped like 3 or 4 balls after talking smack of his own against the Steelers, not that Porter had anything to do with that though.

Also, I was watching the highlights again and on that pass int call on the Seattle WR that nullified the TD, even though it still remains a questionable call the referee was going for his flag before the Pittsburgh defender even turned to bitch. Looks like he just couldn't get it out of his belt.

I dont know if I mentioned it before but I agree with Stima, I don't even know what Seattle was doing at the end of both halves there. My dad and I were just laughing at the whole thing.

Miz brought up a good point though, Alexander didn't get the ball enough and that is definitely a huge coaching fuck up.

[D Mac]

All I heard on the radio today is how the refs screwed up the game. That may be, but good teams always overcome adversity and Seattle just did'nt have it.

[VonErich Lives]

So, did you hear the pre-game motivation speaches?

Holmgrem laid out the winners share in 1 dollar bills in the table (around 75K) and said "this is what we're playing for. What he didn't mention is a loss they still get around 50K. How much does 25K mean to most the guys on that team?

Cowher talked about Columbus.... Would have been funny if somoene said "umm, Coach... didn't he get lost and not end up where he thought he was?"

just got a laugh out of both of those.

[VonErich Lives]

wow, what a jackass...

Holmgren in a speach during the "looser celebration" in seattle (which I've never understood having a celebration for losing a big game).

"We knew it was going to be tough going up against the Pittsburgh Steelers," Holmgren later told 15,000 fans who had gathered at Qwest Field on Monday afternoon. "I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well."

Jesus, maybe if you managed the clock and ran the ball more it wouldn't have made a difference.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/cs-0602070107feb07,1,3022628.story?coll=cs-football-print

[VonErich Lives]

Another funny note, before the game Boomer Esiason was talking to Holmgren and reminded him that in the Bengals Super Bowl Loss to the 49'ers the Bengles Defense basiclly shut down the 49'ers offense all game.

The Bengles DC? Dick LeBeau
49'ers OC? Mike Holmgren

[Team Sheep]

I loved the game, thought it was great. But I could sit and watch any game for hours to be honest. Easily pleased. ;)

[The Outlaw]

Let's get this straight. Joey Porter runs his mouth the whole time leading up to the Super Bowl. Stevens basically says "We're going to win". Doesn't do much trash talking. Stevens has the better game. Porter basically got beat down by Jones the whole game. I saw Porter make one play, and that was a horse collar tackle. Yet, it's funny that Stevens dropped 3 passes? I just don't really understand that logic at all.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Stevens didn't run his mouth but he said enough to give something for Porter to bite on, and that's all he was looking for. It wasn't really Porter vs Stevens it's more like if you say anything even remotely like trash before the Superbowl you'd better have at least a good game, and Stevens didn't.

[Gonzo]

Let's get this straight. Joey Porter runs his mouth the whole time leading up to the Super Bowl. Stevens basically says "We're going to win". Doesn't do much trash talking. Stevens has the better game. Porter basically got beat down by Jones the whole game. I saw Porter make one play, and that was a horse collar tackle. Yet, it's funny that Stevens dropped 3 passes? I just don't really understand that logic at all.

I don't know for me personally, I am just used to Joey Porter saying stupid shit. So anything he said prior to the game wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but when Stevens said something then played like shit, it made it funny.

[The Outlaw]

I dunno, I thought trash talking wise:

Porter > Stevens

And as for as performance goes:

Stevens > Porter

I don't like the whole bashing Shaun I've seen. Guy had nearly a 5 yards a carry. It's not like he was getting shut down. Plus, there was that whole one of the best defenses he was going against. At one time in the second half, Bettis had more rushes than Alexander. So, a backup runningback was getting more touches than the MVP of the league, while the guy who is known as the "We want the ball and we're going to score" guy passed the ball 50 times (even though he had a pretty good game)? You would think it would be a little more balanced, especially when you have the best RB in the league. I also don't like people bashing Holmgreen saying he didn't have a game plan. His gameplan worked to perfection I thought from the get-go. They moved the ball at ease, just the whole having a few touchdowns taken away and given to the other team thing will do it to you.

[The Miz]

His gameplan worked to perfection I thought from the get-go.

Did you not watch the last 2 minutes of the 1st half?

[The Outlaw]

Did you not watch the last 2 minutes of the 1st half?

I've already said the clock management was horrible at the end of both the first and second half. Can't really fault him when he sends in two plays (that's what is being reported anyway?) and Hasselbeck wastes a lot of time trying to audible to a perfect play.

[darkpower]

Ref's cheated for the Steelers. Everyone wants to see Bettis get a Superbowl ring.

Like that one referee that called a sure interception back in the Steelers/Colts game because he thought Randal El fumbled the ball before coming back up (or something like that, don't know his exact logic on the thing)?

Yeah, that's showing everyone that they were Steel Curtain fans. :roll:

[The Outlaw]

Like that one referee that called a sure interception back in the Steelers/Colts game because he thought Randal El fumbled the ball before coming back up (or something like that, don't know his exact logic on the thing)?

Yeah, that's showing everyone that they were Steel Curtain fans. :roll:

Yeah, considering Antwain Randel El plays defense and all.