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Triple A
02-09-2006, 11:00 PM
Or 10 if you can remember.

Annie Hall
The Doors
The Machinist
Easy Rider
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Match Point
Naked Lunch
Altered States
Pink Floyd: The Wall
Trainspotting

el fregadero
02-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Spaceballs
Jingle All The Way
Coming To America
Forrest Gump
Naked Gun

samichna
02-09-2006, 11:04 PM
Happiness
The Constant Gardener
Lord of War
Gangs of New York
Hustle & Flow
Brokeback Mountain
King Kong
Rounders
Dunno
Dunno

Boomer
02-09-2006, 11:05 PM
Dead Man
Army of Darkness
Evil Dead 2
Something the Lord Made
Wizard People, Dear Reader (about half of it so far...I can only take it so much)
Man on Fire

All I can remember at the moment. Gonna watch Bubba Ho-tep tomorrow.

weather vane
02-09-2006, 11:05 PM
Pee Wee Herman's Big Adventure
GI Joe: The Movie
War of the Worlds
Dumb and Dumber
The Warriors
The Doors
Mallrats
The Island
Spinal Tap
Godfather

samichna
02-09-2006, 11:07 PM
Next up are Capote and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

Blitz
02-09-2006, 11:08 PM
When A Stranger Calls (the shitty remake)
Constantine
Eurotrip
Garden State
The Warriors
Underworld Evolution
Glory Road
EdTV
The Incredibles
Hostage

Not in that order, tho.

Blitz
02-09-2006, 11:09 PM
GI Joe: The Movie
:heart:

Lara Emily
02-09-2006, 11:09 PM
Capote
Good Night, and Good Luck
When a Stranger Calls
The New World
dunno I've seen too many to remember

Boomer
02-09-2006, 11:10 PM
Oh yeah one of my friends wants to watch Happiness. I have a hankering to watch Lost Highway again some time soon as well.

Oh and AAA, just thought you'd like to know that I've auditioned with Jon Lovitz's monolouge at the beginning of Happiness (the part about him being champagne) for UGA's three semester shows due to hearing about the movie long long ago from you. Feel proud.

Oh and every time people look at my DVDs, they think Fucking Amal says Fucking Anal. I've gotten some pretty good reactions out of people.

Triple A
02-09-2006, 11:12 PM
:love:

Boomer
02-09-2006, 11:16 PM
Like you need to tell me more movies to get, because I look all hot and shit when I pull some unknown Swedish movie out of my ass.

Triple A
02-09-2006, 11:21 PM
http://www.dvdaficionado.com/dvds.html?cat=1&sub=All&id=triplea

If you haven't seen any of those movies, watch them. That is basically every single one of my favorite movies.

Boomer
02-09-2006, 11:23 PM
Nice. Bookmark'd.

Boondock Saint
02-09-2006, 11:28 PM
Elizabethtown
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
Waiting...
The Crimson Rivers
Irréversible
Corpse Bride
The Aristocrats

Blitz
02-09-2006, 11:29 PM
Caught Show Me Love (Fucking Amal) on TV a few weeks ago. Pretty good flick.

Dragon
02-09-2006, 11:45 PM
Spaceballs
The Constant Gardener
Corpse Bride
Happiness
King Kong

Triple A
02-09-2006, 11:49 PM
Did you guys like The Constant Gardener?

I thought it was horribly fucking boring. Dunno.

DMI
02-09-2006, 11:50 PM
war of the worlds
fox and the hound
hostel
red eye
elf
spirited away (fell asleep)
house of wax
wedding crashers
spinal tap
the green mile

Dragon
02-09-2006, 11:57 PM
I thought it was going to be a lot better with all the "rave" reviews and whatnot. It was a little disappointing though.

D Mac
02-10-2006, 01:23 AM
Cobra
Tango and Cash
Lord of War
Metallica: Some Kind of Monster
Maverick
Transporter
Transporter 2
Airplane!

samichna
02-10-2006, 01:32 AM
The Constant Gardener was ok but it was definitely WAY overhyped.

samichna
02-10-2006, 01:34 AM
Oh, I also just finished downloading Crash, and I have heard good things...

Blitz
02-10-2006, 01:39 AM
Crash is the goods.

D Mac
02-10-2006, 01:51 AM
Gonna watch Legend of Zorro next.

YOUR Hero
02-10-2006, 09:27 AM
(no order)

King Kong
Ring 2
Team America

...some other shit I can't recall..

Zelda
02-10-2006, 10:52 AM
War of the worlds
Bordello of blood
Demon Knight
The notebook
Wedding Crashers

Boondock Saint
02-10-2006, 12:52 PM
Did you guys like The Constant Gardener?

I thought it was horribly fucking boring. Dunno.

I thought the same. People come in the store all the time asking for it, it's always out. Boggles my mind.

mitch_h
02-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Le Samourai
The 400 Blows
Bande à part
The Phantom of Liberty
Broken Flowers

DaveWadding
02-10-2006, 01:07 PM
Old School
Wallace & Gromit
Team America
Red Eye
Wedding Crashers

The Greater Power
02-10-2006, 01:24 PM
Grizzly Man (on TV)
Flight 93 (TV version, not the one that will be coming out in theaters)
Road To Perdition
Land of the Dead
The Girl Next Door

D Mac
02-11-2006, 05:50 AM
Just watched the whole fucking Naked Gun Trilogy. Funny as shit, especially when you drinketh tha Bud Ice.

The Miz
02-11-2006, 11:44 AM
Domicile conjugal
Tillsammans
Faustrecht der Freiheit
Destiny Turns on the Radio
Les Valseuses

Triple A, see any of these you haven't seen. Only the foregin ones though, Destiny is stupid

Buzzkill
02-11-2006, 02:38 PM
HMMMMMMMMM

Underworld 2
Brokeback Mountain
40 year old virgin
King Kong
The Island
Bourne Supremacy
Shaun of the Dead
Four Brothers
Syriana

Kris P Lettus
02-11-2006, 02:49 PM
Wedding Crashers
Corpse Bride
Waiting
Dark Crystal
Eraserhead

D Mac
02-11-2006, 04:12 PM
I will state here that I have never seen Titanic. Ever.

Gonzo
02-11-2006, 05:52 PM
Did you guys like The Constant Gardener?

I thought it was horribly fucking boring. Dunno.

I did start to feel that it was dragging and was boring towards the end. When the plot was unwound and everything was laid out, like what the girl was doing and stuff it made it worth it. Just kind of made me think how fucked up it really has to be living in places in Africa like that.

Downunder
02-12-2006, 06:04 AM
Munich
Jarhead
Hostel
Four Brothers (turned it off because it's a pile of shit)
Crash

All were really good except for 4 Brothers - but I was on a flight back from Melboourne and I wanted to watch something but not care if I fell asleep, I didn't fall asleep, but it was so shitty I turned it off and watched The Office instead.

KillerWolf
02-12-2006, 08:36 AM
i watched half of Blade III last night. had to turn it off. it was too stupid to watch.

i never watched the movie Underworld because i assumed that it would be very similar to how Blade III turned out to be. (most of the action poorly choriographed and accompanied by techno soundtrack)

AlphaBean
02-12-2006, 10:31 AM
A lot of the posts in here remind me of 12 year olds smoking cigarettes.

When you're young, just enjoy the movies. You try reading too much into them when you're not actually capable of it, and you'll hate the wrong movies for the wrong reasons. If you start off watching french new wave shit when you're a teenager, you'll end up writing off every good mainstream hollywood film on principle alone. And that makes me angry. :mad:

Watched Waiting... last night, and it was so great. I love me some Ryan Reynolds. :drool:

Saw Dark Water a while back... wasn't horrible... but it would have been a lot more watchable if she wore more tee shirts in the water. Also, Jennifer Connelly's character being a psycho tragic character made me love her. :$

Family Guy: The Stewie Griffin Story... DAMN IT! I can't remember any other movies I've seen recently. :'(

John la Rock
02-12-2006, 11:45 AM
King Kong
Lord of War
Crash
40 Year Old Virgin

well those are the movies i have seen recently

KillerWolf
02-12-2006, 11:27 PM
A lot of the posts in here remind me of 12 year olds smoking cigarettes.

When you're young, just enjoy the movies. You try reading too much into them when you're not actually capable of it, and you'll hate the wrong movies for the wrong reasons. If you start off watching french new wave shit when you're a teenager, you'll end up writing off every good mainstream hollywood film on principle alone. And that makes me angry. :mad

wtf?

i'm a grown-ass man, okay. i am fully capable of reading into a film. and i can admit and accept if i am wrong or have mis-judged a movie based on my pre-conceived notions, and am pleasantly suprised when that happens. but i am usually right about these things, and it doesnt take a genius to get a read on a movie based on how it's marketed.

just tell me if i am right or wrong; Underworld features a (sexy) chick in a tight outfit, making model face as she uses martial arts against monsters, and there is techno sounding music during many of the action sequences.

yes or no

AlphaBean
02-12-2006, 11:46 PM
wtf?

i'm a grown-ass man, okay. i am fully capable of reading into a film. and i can admit and accept if i am wrong or have mis-judged a movie based on my pre-conceived notions, and am pleasantly suprised when that happens. but i am usually right about these things, and it doesnt take a genius to get a read on a movie based on how it's marketed.

just tell me if i am right or wrong; Underworld features a (sexy) chick in a tight outfit, making model face as she uses martial arts against monsters, and there is techno sounding music during many of the action sequences.

yes or no

I can't recall the soundtrack, and I think they tried making Scott Speedman look prettier than Beckinsale in that film. However, my point is that blockbuster films may try to appeal to everyone, but that doesn't make them bad. I mean, taco bell has some delicious food. I tend to make assumptions based on marketing, and I feel like a total cock when I do that, because I know I'm being as narrow-minded as most people tend to be. I hate it. Case in point being "Stealth," which was a pretty awesome "buddy" film, though they failed so miserably to market it.

Blitz
02-12-2006, 11:53 PM
just tell me if i am right or wrong; Underworld features a (sexy) chick in a tight outfit, making model face as she uses martial arts against monsters, and there is techno sounding music during many of the action sequences.

yes or no

Pretty much right on everything, except the soundtrack. More goth/metal than techno. :)

But really, what else should you be expecting from it?

Blitz
02-13-2006, 12:00 AM
Dunno what it is, sometimes I can enjoy mindless special effects flicks (Armageddon), and sometimes, I violently hate them (Stealth).

AlphaBean
02-13-2006, 12:14 AM
We're programmed early to love them blindly, and then we become bitter as we get older and reprogram ourselves to blindly hate them, and we very rarely have the objectivity to just appreciate them for what they are. I loved Underworld, because it had that awesome "chosen one" storyline, which is at its very core the heroic cycle. If you can't appreciate that, you can't appreciate anything.

D Mac
02-13-2006, 03:25 PM
Watched Legend of Zorro last night. It was OK, but no where near Mask of Zorro.

Butch
02-13-2006, 05:02 PM
Man on Fire
Green Street
Wedding Crashers
Swingers
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Dukes of Hazzard
Four Brothers
Ong Bak
Napoleon Dynamite
Batman Begins

KillerWolf
02-13-2006, 07:23 PM
I can't recall the soundtrack, and I think they tried making Scott Speedman look prettier than Beckinsale in that film. However, my point is that blockbuster films may try to appeal to everyone, but that doesn't make them bad. I mean, taco bell has some delicious food. I tend to make assumptions based on marketing, and I feel like a total cock when I do that, because I know I'm being as narrow-minded as most people tend to be. I hate it. Case in point being "Stealth," which was a pretty awesome "buddy" film, though they failed so miserably to market it.
okay, i see what is happening here.

i stated that i can usually tell from a trailer a lot about a movie. and i could tell from the trailer and the type of actors used in Underworld that it was not something that i would like.

YOU then jumped to the conclusion that i did not like 'blockbuster' / (mass appeal) films based on principle. that is not the case. you have apparently misread me as some sort of crazy person who tries to be too hip for the room by belittling the popular and promoting the obscure. that's not me.

the problem i have with movies like "Underworld", and i'll go out on a limb and say "Stealth", and any Angelina Jolie movie is this: the acting stinks. the acting is robotic. the characters are not believable. they do not show any emotion, or fear, and they are always spouting off with stupid, smart-ass comments where emotions like fear or anger would be appropriate. the result is characters that you cannot identify with in any way, and invariably a bad movie experience (for me) because i cannot enjoy a movie if i cannot identify with or at least beleive any of the characters.

KillerWolf
02-13-2006, 07:28 PM
Dunno what it is, sometimes I can enjoy mindless special effects flicks (Armageddon), and sometimes, I violently hate them (Stealth).

that reminds me of a little saying that i came up with:

"there are two kinds of people in this world - Armageddon people and Deep Impact people. i'm a Deep Impact person."

Blitz
02-13-2006, 07:59 PM
I also like Deep Impact.

AlphaBean
02-13-2006, 09:47 PM
okay, i see what is happening here.

i stated that i can usually tell from a trailer a lot about a movie. and i could tell from the trailer and the type of actors used in Underworld that it was not something that i would like.

YOU then jumped to the conclusion that i did not like 'blockbuster' / (mass appeal) films based on principle. that is not the case. you have apparently misread me as some sort of crazy person who tries to be too hip for the room by belittling the popular and promoting the obscure. that's not me.

the problem i have with movies like "Underworld", and i'll go out on a limb and say "Stealth", and any Angelina Jolie movie is this: the acting stinks. the acting is robotic. the characters are not believable. they do not show any emotion, or fear, and they are always spouting off with stupid, smart-ass comments where emotions like fear or anger would be appropriate. the result is characters that you cannot identify with in any way, and invariably a bad movie experience (for me) because i cannot enjoy a movie if i cannot identify with or at least beleive any of the characters.

Do you know what is happening here?

You're taking general comments and putting them 100% on yourself. THAT is what's happening here. I am just saying that I noticed a trend in people, and you took it to heart. So anything after that I may have said is your fault. You obviously thought I was directing my post only at you, so I guess there is some shred of truth to what I said, at least in your case. To get so defensive about it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

You told me you can tell by a trailer if a movie will be bad. Can't tell how the acting is when you only see the trailer. Sorry.

KillerWolf
02-14-2006, 08:26 AM
well your posts were directed at me, at the least, made in response to what i wrote - because if i had written nothing, you would not have written what you wrote. theres no need to deny that. i dont have a problem with it. maybe we disagree. that's fine. we're just two people having a discussion over the internet.

now. you cant always tell how good or bad the acting will be by watching a trailer, but you can usually tell what kind of movie it is. and certain kinds of movies typically have bad acting. i would say, that based on the trailer, the movie "Stealth" has people going around talking in "techno-jargain", the main characters make corny comments when they are flying around in those [jets or whatever], and i wouldnt be suprised if they threw in a romance angle with the two white people. (the two pilots besides Jamie Foxx).

to put it simply, a movie trailer puts a movie in one of three catagories (for me) example:

Jarhead: Fuck Yeah, i wanna see that asap.
Steath: Fuck No, you couldnt pay me to see that.
Hustle & Flow: Meh. i might rent that when it comes out on DVD.

im not always right, but a good 90% of the time, i'm right on the money.

btw, have you seen the trailer for this movie coming out called "Ultraviolet?!!" this thing looks like it is going to be fucking awful. possibly the worst movie in years. i swear to God, the first time i saw that trailer, i thought it was going to be a fucking shaving razor or a car commercial. i couldnt believe it was seriously a movie.

KillerWolf
02-14-2006, 08:29 AM
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.




:roll:

Disturbed316
02-14-2006, 08:38 AM
Spongebob Square Pants: The Movie
The Terminator
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Love Actually
Animal Farm (not the porno)

Optimistic T
02-14-2006, 09:22 AM
But I'm A Cheerleader
Resident Evil 2
Career Opportunities
Nell
Smokey & The Bandit (for the umpteenth time)

Y3J
02-14-2006, 12:30 PM
Batman Begins
Star Wars: Episode 3
Kung Fu Hustle
My Cousin Vinnie
Khiladiyon Ki Khiladi (Bollywood film feat. Undertaker and Crush)

Fryza
02-14-2006, 02:43 PM
From memory and in no real order:

-Cry_Wolf
-Red Eye
-Unleashed
-Fist of Legend
-Skyhigh (Kitamura film <3).

Probably going to watch Unleashed and/or Red Eye here again later.

Blitz
02-14-2006, 03:44 PM
btw, have you seen the trailer for this movie coming out called "Ultraviolet?!!" this thing looks like it is going to be fucking awful. possibly the worst movie in years. i swear to God, the first time i saw that trailer, i thought it was going to be a fucking shaving razor or a car commercial. i couldnt believe it was seriously a movie.

It looks just like Aeon Flux.

Aeon Flux was awful

Yet I want to see Ultraviolet.

AlphaBean
02-14-2006, 08:23 PM
<p><font color="Lime">well your posts were directed at me, at the least, made in response to what i wrote - because if i had written nothing, you would not have written what you wrote. theres no need to deny that. i dont have a problem with it. maybe we disagree. that's fine. we're just two people having a discussion over the internet. </p>
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<p>now. you cant always tell how good or bad the acting will be by watching a trailer, but you can usually tell what kind of movie it is. and certain kinds of movies typically have bad acting. i would say, that based on the trailer, the movie "Stealth" has people going around talking in "techno-jargain", the main characters make corny comments when they are flying around in those [jets or whatever], and i wouldnt be suprised if they threw in a romance angle with the two white people. (the two pilots besides Jamie Foxx). </p>
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<p>to put it simply, a movie trailer puts a movie in one of three catagories (for me) example: </p>
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<p>Jarhead: Fuck Yeah, i wanna see that asap. </p>
<p>Steath: Fuck No, you couldnt pay me to see that. </p>
<p>Hustle &amp; Flow: Meh. i might rent that when it comes out on DVD. </p>
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<p>im not always right, but a good 90% of the time, i'm right on the money. </p>
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<p>btw, have you seen the trailer for this movie coming out called "Ultraviolet?!!" this thing looks like it is going to be fucking awful. possibly the worst movie in years. i swear to God, the first time i saw that trailer, i thought it was going to be a fucking shaving razor or a car commercial. i couldnt believe it was seriously a movie.</font></p>
I just went back to page 1 and realized... YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID. Just because I posted after you doesn't mean I was replying to you. Fucking fuck. Jesus. I'm done with you. You're insane. Go die. You know nothing of movies, and you think you're right because of COURSE you're going to agree with yourself. You probably are too insane to even admit to yourself you're wrong. I suggest you return to page 1 and look at the post you think I'm replying to. You just said that Blade 3 sucked. So what? My post had NOTHING to do with you AT ALL, so my previous post stands. Sorry, I said I was done with you earlier, but I mean it now. :foc: Fucking loon.

HeartBreakMan2k
02-14-2006, 11:39 PM
The Professional
Ong Bak
Hustle And Flow
Dog Day Afternoon
Doom (was pretty good action movie I guess)

mitch_h
02-15-2006, 01:34 AM
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I just went back to page 1 and realized... YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID. Just because I posted after you doesn't mean I was replying to you. Fucking fuck. Jesus. I'm done with you. You're insane. Go die. You know nothing of movies, and you think you're right because of COURSE you're going to agree with yourself. You probably are too insane to even admit to yourself you're wrong. I suggest you return to page 1 and look at the post you think I'm replying to. You just said that Blade 3 sucked. So what? My post had NOTHING to do with you AT ALL, so my previous post stands. Sorry, I said I was done with you earlier, but I mean it now. :foc: Fucking loon.

LOL, I love how your post was directed at me and/or the Miz yet this guy retaliated. Anywho, i'm not like a new wave enthusiast or anything. I went after more accessible films as opposed to something like Breathless, Jules and Jim, or a Fellini film or something. Plus my interest was usually sparked by a more contemporary director, eg Tarantino's use of a band apart, and John Woo's constant praise of Le Samourai.

AlphaBean
02-15-2006, 09:06 PM
LOL, I love how your post was directed at me and/or the Miz yet this guy retaliated. Anywho, i'm not like a new wave enthusiast or anything. I went after more accessible films as opposed to something like Breathless, Jules and Jim, or a Fellini film or something. Plus my interest was usually sparked by a more contemporary director, eg Tarantino's use of a band apart, and John Woo's constant praise of Le Samourai.

Have you seen cleo de 5 a 7? I thought it was pretty good, though it was more something a chick would dig, I guess... but I liked the depressing tone of it. And I never saw "life or something like it," but the previews made me think it was trying to be a remake. DUNNO.

The way I see it... I grew up on the amazingly contrived trashy films of the 80s, and along the way saw lots of neat older films... then in college I got exposed to so many amazing, mind-blowing films, but I saw them in context, and while I developed a taste for anything unique and powerful, they kept that context, and I can still appreciate a blockbuster without looking down on it if I choose to "suspend my disbelief." But too many people are just so quick to judge, just because a movie is based on a formula and has a 300 million dollar budget. Doesn't mean it has to be bad, if you think about what came before it. Stealth was awesome. I completely expected one thing, and at the end... :love: Awesomeness. It harkened back to such classics as "iron eagle," or "enemy mine." Were they profound? Not at all. But anyone who tries saying they were bad, I will beat they ass.

I think the best counter-cinema film I've ever seen was "the harder they come" with jimmy cliff. Awesome stuff, though mostly unintelligible. Gotta have subtitles.

Bad Company
02-15-2006, 09:50 PM
Jarhead: Shit
Caddyshack: Legendary
Harlem nights: ROFL
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang: Good Movie
Haggard: Brilliant

KillerWolf
02-16-2006, 12:39 PM
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I just went back to page 1 and realized... YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID. Just because I posted after you doesn't mean I was replying to you. Fucking fuck. Jesus. I'm done with you. You're insane. Go die. You know nothing of movies, and you think you're right because of COURSE you're going to agree with yourself. You probably are too insane to even admit to yourself you're wrong. I suggest you return to page 1 and look at the post you think I'm replying to. You just said that Blade 3 sucked. So what? My post had NOTHING to do with you AT ALL, so my previous post stands. Sorry, I said I was done with you earlier, but I mean it now. :foc: Fucking loon.

ya know, i think youre right. i must be out of my mind. and i don't think that i no a thing about movies - probably not even enough to know what movies i like or dislike.

i was never trying to say that when i see a movie trailer, i sometimes think, "that doesn't look like it's going to be good." you saw through me. what i really meant was that any movie with a budget over $25,000 is just sell-out crap, and that's why i only watch foreign films.

your post has caused me to take a long look in the mirror, and it has really opened my eyes to the truth. i now realize that my posts were completely uncalled for, as i never set out to have a polite discussion with someone with an oposing view. i now realize that in my mind, it was all-out war from the start. i would like to take this opportunity to apologize for all the verbal abuse and the insults. i was out of line.

finally, i would like to agree with you that you are right to wash your hands of me. i have a lot of issues to work out, and you really shouldn't have to be bothered with it. again, you've really shown me the truth, and i am going to try to get some help so that i can get healthy.

thanks.:wave:

KillerWolf
02-16-2006, 12:55 PM
LOL, I love how your post was directed at me and/or the Miz yet this guy retaliated. Anywho, i'm not like a new wave enthusiast or anything. I went after more accessible films as opposed to something like Breathless, Jules and Jim, or a Fellini film or something. Plus my interest was usually sparked by a more contemporary director, eg Tarantino's use of a band apart, and John Woo's constant praise of Le Samourai.

yeah, LOL. i'm laughing out loud too. ( i'm not typing lefty with my pants around my ankles :shifty: ). but alas, you are right. i am sure that any OBJECTIVE person would agree that Alphabean's statements about people reading too much into movies were inspired by your listing of the last five movies that you watched - and not by my pre-suppositions about the movie, "Underworld". i am also finally starting to accept the fact that his/her responses (with my quotes) were in no way directed at me, but were either just general statements or they may have in fact been directed at you as well.

those paranoid delusions are why i am trying to get help.



LOL. i cannot stop laughing.

Fryza
02-16-2006, 01:27 PM
Just watched Saw II last night. Good stuff. Little more gruesome than the last one.

AlphaBean
02-16-2006, 04:48 PM
ya know, i think youre right. i must be out of my mind. and i don't think that i no a thing about movies - probably not even enough to know what movies i like or dislike.

i was never trying to say that when i see a movie trailer, i sometimes think, "that doesn't look like it's going to be good." you saw through me. what i really meant was that any movie with a budget over $25,000 is just sell-out crap, and that's why i only watch foreign films.

your post has caused me to take a long look in the mirror, and it has really opened my eyes to the truth. i now realize that my posts were completely uncalled for, as i never set out to have a polite discussion with someone with an oposing view. i now realize that in my mind, it was all-out war from the start. i would like to take this opportunity to apologize for all the verbal abuse and the insults. i was out of line.

finally, i would like to agree with you that you are right to wash your hands of me. i have a lot of issues to work out, and you really shouldn't have to be bothered with it. again, you've really shown me the truth, and i am going to try to get some help so that i can get healthy.

thanks.:wave:

:wtf:

Lateralus
02-18-2006, 03:20 PM
I'll put in my two cents for what's being brought across.

I think AlphaBean is right, but to an extent. Short and sweet:

Pro: People should accept things for what they are, and try to enjoy them. Film majors who ONLY watch foreign and independent abstract films scoff at King Kong and Batman. Why? Film can captivate in many different ways, and I think that people need to not limit themselves to their comfort level.

Con: There are a WHOLE LOT of shitty, passionless, redundant, garbage movies. You mean to tell me I should go see Big Momma's House 2 and "try to enjoy it?" It sucks. The concept is retarded, and they're just trying to make money off of a crappy first comedy. I think the reason why people are so quick to judge is because they are always let down by these terrible Hollywood movies like "Fantastic Four" and "Stealth."

So, in turn, I can usually spot crap when I see it, because it's usually pretty obvious. However, I'll also try to take into consideration what the movie is trying to do, and if it does what it's trying to do well, I'll usually like it.

Lateralus
02-18-2006, 03:21 PM
Oh, right. Last five movies:

-- Tim Burton's The Corpse Bride
-- Broken Flowers
-- Princess Mononoke
-- Saw
-- Audition

Disturbed316
02-18-2006, 06:17 PM
Audition is such a fucked up, yet amazing film.

AlphaBean
02-19-2006, 02:02 AM
I'll put in my two cents for what's being brought across.

I think AlphaBean is right, but to an extent. Short and sweet:

Pro: People should accept things for what they are, and try to enjoy them. Film majors who ONLY watch foreign and independent abstract films scoff at King Kong and Batman. Why? Film can captivate in many different ways, and I think that people need to not limit themselves to their comfort level.

Con: There are a WHOLE LOT of shitty, passionless, redundant, garbage movies. You mean to tell me I should go see Big Momma's House 2 and "try to enjoy it?" It sucks. The concept is retarded, and they're just trying to make money off of a crappy first comedy. I think the reason why people are so quick to judge is because they are always let down by these terrible Hollywood movies like "Fantastic Four" and "Stealth."

So, in turn, I can usually spot crap when I see it, because it's usually pretty obvious. However, I'll also try to take into consideration what the movie is trying to do, and if it does what it's trying to do well, I'll usually like it.

So you've seen Stealth?

How can you judge a film, just because it's a Hollywood film? Most people judge films in this manner, as though they were art critics who rejected photorealism or pop art. A film like Stealth, which advertises one film when it's an entirely different film, gets critiqued for being a big-budget CGI fest. In reality, it's not man vs machine. It's man + machine vs man. So at least to me, there was a soft spot in my heart for this film. Because it's not just any cookie cutter film.

If you took any film study courses, there is a rhyme and a reason to every type of film. I have critiqued silent films. These films were 20 minutes with no dialogue. How do you critique such a film? It's easy: Context. Every film has an inherent quality within its own context. Blockbusters are no exception. They are an entire genre of film, and should exist by their own rules. To judge Stealth based on your own feelings of action films in the context of "Hard Boiled," you will be greatly disappointed. If you judge "pretty woman" based on your experience with romance in the Truffault sense of the word, there is no comparison. Movies are unique -- some are less unique than others, and some are a lot more similar to certain others than some other films may be. To hold all films to the same standard is idiotic. It is like saying Gretsky was a pathetic sportsman because he couldn't score as many points as Karl Malone.

Lateralus
02-19-2006, 08:12 AM
So "Alone in the Dark" has an underlying context that I'm missing that makes it worth spending ten bucks on?

I think I see where you're coming from, but it all comes down to what I like to watch. Blockbuster movies aren't EXACTLY the same; of course not. But they all follow a formula that gets old after a while. It's past "allowing myself to enjoy it" because I just can't. I'd rather watch something a little more challenging emotionally. It's just my preference.

And the bottom line is, today, there are a lot of films being made that just shouldn't be made. The only context they have is "let's milk these people for money with an effortless movie."

AlphaBean
02-19-2006, 03:09 PM
So "Alone in the Dark" has an underlying context that I'm missing that makes it worth spending ten bucks on?

I think I see where you're coming from, but it all comes down to what I like to watch. Blockbuster movies aren't EXACTLY the same; of course not. But they all follow a formula that gets old after a while. It's past "allowing myself to enjoy it" because I just can't. I'd rather watch something a little more challenging emotionally. It's just my preference.

And the bottom line is, today, there are a lot of films being made that just shouldn't be made. The only context they have is "let's milk these people for money with an effortless movie."

That's the thing: Any movie that is being released for money is trying to manipulate you. Blockbusters are the only ones not doing it subversively. Do you think Michael Moore is giving you the objective truth? No. And fucking Jim Jarmusch probably gets high on crack before he makes his horrible "films," and releases them for people like you who are looking for something challenging. You just want something random rather than formulaic. Why? Because someone, sometime, got it in your head that formula was bad. That is like saying linear music is bad, or that normal food is bad -- the only way to eat it is with cranberries, hot peppers, chunks of garlic and the eyeball of horse. You need to have a culinarily challenging meal. I know how you feel about music, and like to hear people shitting on a microphone and call that music, but I also know you appreciate music that is built on a formula, too. You put all the pieces together to create a quality whole, just like a formula movie can be. Like you said, it gets old... so what are you going to do, spend the rest of your life avoiding 80% of the movies that are being made?

I am pretty good about avoiding most French movies, and most things released at Cannes. What I look for is the best of both worlds: Hollywood films, ones that are not "critically acclaimed :roll:" yet push the envelope. I want to be challenged without being reminded that it's a movie. I hate try-hards. 40-50 years ago and beyond, when film was still new, a lot of film makers played with conventions, and truly experimented -- just to see the limits of the media. But nowadays, when people "play," it's always things that have already been done before, so all they're doing is trying to see "who is the most profound." Fucking gay cowboys eating pudding. Who cares? The only way you're going to truly play with conventions now is with a big budget. Blair Witch turned everything upside down. But movies like Sin City, Big Fish, these were new. These kinds of movies excite me. They're made by people who give in to the formula, but know how to work within the formula to create something unique.

You have a way of making me ramble on, Bent. I guess I can say I love you for that. I've gone off track. But my point is... if you cannot enjoy something, you are not trying hard enough. Movies that are inherently bad, that were created for the sole purpose of never beeing watched... the true B movie... there is a criticism for them. They have a place. There are articles about what they do/what they're about. The worst movies one can imagine have their place in the world (MST3K), or AKA "cult classics." Keep that in mind. If you can open your mind, you can find a way to appreciate the blockbuster. Compare it to others... try to figure out what the emotions are of characters that are wooden and lifeless. It can be quite fun, and make you understand... the age of melodrama in films is over. If we wanted our leading man to cry in every movie, Cuba Gooding, Jr. would still have a career. :p

AlphaBean
02-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Also, no idea what "Alone in the Dark" even is. :$

Lateralus
02-19-2006, 03:22 PM
That's the thing: Any movie that is being released for money is trying to manipulate you. Blockbusters are the only ones not doing it subversively. Do you think Michael Moore is giving you the objective truth? No. And fucking Jim Jarmusch probably gets high on crack before he makes his horrible "films," and releases them for people like you who are looking for something challenging. You just want something random rather than formulaic. Why? Because someone, sometime, got it in your head that formula was bad. That is like saying linear music is bad, or that normal food is bad -- the only way to eat it is with cranberries, hot peppers, chunks of garlic and the eyeball of horse. You need to have a culinarily challenging meal. I know how you feel about music, and like to hear people shitting on a microphone and call that music, but I also know you appreciate music that is built on a formula, too. You put all the pieces together to create a quality whole, just like a formula movie can be. Like you said, it gets old... so what are you going to do, spend the rest of your life avoiding 80% of the movies that are being made?

I am pretty good about avoiding most French movies, and most things released at Cannes. What I look for is the best of both worlds: Hollywood films, ones that are not "critically acclaimed :roll:" yet push the envelope. I want to be challenged without being reminded that it's a movie. I hate try-hards. 40-50 years ago and beyond, when film was still new, a lot of film makers played with conventions, and truly experimented -- just to see the limits of the media. But nowadays, when people "play," it's always things that have already been done before, so all they're doing is trying to see "who is the most profound." Fucking gay cowboys eating pudding. Who cares? The only way you're going to truly play with conventions now is with a big budget. Blair Witch turned everything upside down. But movies like Sin City, Big Fish, these were new. These kinds of movies excite me. They're made by people who give in to the formula, but know how to work within the formula to create something unique.

You have a way of making me ramble on, Bent. I guess I can say I love you for that. I've gone off track. But my point is... if you cannot enjoy something, you are not trying hard enough. Movies that are inherently bad, that were created for the sole purpose of never beeing watched... the true B movie... there is a criticism for them. They have a place. There are articles about what they do/what they're about. The worst movies one can imagine have their place in the world (MST3K), or AKA "cult classics." Keep that in mind. If you can open your mind, you can find a way to appreciate the blockbuster. Compare it to others... try to figure out what the emotions are of characters that are wooden and lifeless. It can be quite fun, and make you understand... the age of melodrama in films is over. If we wanted our leading man to cry in every movie, Cuba Gooding, Jr. would still have a career. :p

Ah man. I think you misunderstood me, and I feel bad because you wrote a lot about it.

I completely agree with you that people get set in their ways and put up defenses about liking anything formulaic. Pop songs and Hollywood blockbusters aren't cool to like, because people are afraid they won't feel intelligent if they do. I think formula is a big part of our connections with things, and whether it's blatant or not, everything is formulaic in some way, no matter how chaotic it may seem, because we draw conclusions from it. I like what I like, and I understand that stupid comedies are stupid comedies, and meant to be enjoyed in that way.

However, there is a difference between people who do formulas WELL and people who do not. I don't care how popular something is. I'm allowed to say, "well, that was crap." I always want to enjoy something, but if I see a movie that just sucks and doesn't capture my interest, then I think I'm allowed to form my opinion of the movie. All movies are released for money, because these people are involved in a profession. But it's when movies basically cry out "we think you'll see this just because of the tagline we put on it, you fucking jackass, give us your money," it makes me avoid them, because I don't think these people deserve to be putting out movies like that.

Honestly, formula is fine with me. It just depends on whether or not I like the context, which you actually brought up in a previous post about this. So, yeah, context is really makes or breaks it for me, and if the context is crappy, I won't like it. I think you are exactly right about movies that are formulaic, but still push the boundaries of that formula. They rule.

P.S. I really like Jim Jarmusch.
P.P.S. "Alone in the Dark" is a movie by Uwe Boll. Tara Reid plays a scientist, and it's probably the worst reviewed film in history. It's a pile of shit, and there's no way anyone can convince me otherwise.

AlphaBean
02-19-2006, 03:56 PM
Ah man. I think you misunderstood me, and I feel bad because you wrote a lot about it.

I completely agree with you that people get set in their ways and put up defenses about liking anything formulaic. Pop songs and Hollywood blockbusters aren't cool to like, because people are afraid they won't feel intelligent if they do. I think formula is a big part of our connections with things, and whether it's blatant or not, everything is formulaic in some way, no matter how chaotic it may seem, because we draw conclusions from it. I like what I like, and I understand that stupid comedies are stupid comedies, and meant to be enjoyed in that way.

However, there is a difference between people who do formulas WELL and people who do not. I don't care how popular something is. I'm allowed to say, "well, that was crap." I always want to enjoy something, but if I see a movie that just sucks and doesn't capture my interest, then I think I'm allowed to form my opinion of the movie. All movies are released for money, because these people are involved in a profession. But it's when movies basically cry out "we think you'll see this just because of the tagline we put on it, you fucking jackass, give us your money," it makes me avoid them, because I don't think these people deserve to be putting out movies like that.

Honestly, formula is fine with me. It just depends on whether or not I like the context, which you actually brought up in a previous post about this. So, yeah, context is really makes or breaks it for me, and if the context is crappy, I won't like it. I think you are exactly right about movies that are formulaic, but still push the boundaries of that formula. They rule.

P.S. I really like Jim Jarmusch.
P.P.S. "Alone in the Dark" is a movie by Uwe Boll. Tara Reid plays a scientist, and it's probably the worst reviewed film in history. It's a pile of shit, and there's no way anyone can convince me otherwise.

Well see that's different. Tara Reid is a horrible actress, annoying as fuck, a bad actress, very overrated in the looks department, and she can't act. That's like a Frankie Muniz film... or that "Second-Hand Lions" thing, with Haley Joel Osmant who has gone from cute to pubescent/acne-ridden/crackly voiced overnight. He should have really starved himself like Christina Ricci. Gotten a good 5 more years out of his childhood. It's the American way.

But I think what you and a lot of other people are getting wrong is that the studio does the trailers, not the director. Some of my favorite movies ever have had some pathetic trailers. Like Kung Pow! the trailer is like 75% the scene where he fights the cow... easily the worst scene of the film. It was not funny, nor was it relevant. But it cost a lot of money, so the studio used that. They want to use what they think will bring people in, but they're often too stupid to realize what makes a movie good. Like Stealth, all they did was market Jessica Biel's tits, and the same, tired formula that every air force movie has... plus the man vs machine aspect. It was really, really unappealing to me. But I was drinking, and the movie was there... so I watched it... and I loved it. The swerve in the end is something the trailer never even hinted at. I was duped. And I'm happy that I was.

But then, a lot of the times when there is a really awesome trailer, and you get pumped to see the movie... 1) Your expectations are too high and 2) What you see in the trailer is all you see in the movie.

So basically, it's worth it to give every movie a shot, unless it's "coffee and cigarettes," which is the only film I've gotten up and left part-way through TWICE. That's right. I got talked into sitting back down and finishing the film, but I just couldn't. I wanted to chop my penis in half and stick a fork in my testicles after watching part of that.

D Mac
02-19-2006, 05:38 PM
Don't remind us of that video again, Bean. *shudders*

Boondock Saint
02-19-2006, 07:44 PM
Watched Domino and Class of 1984 last night. Along with finishing up the first season of Veronica Mars. Great show.

HeartBreakMan2k
02-19-2006, 09:03 PM
House of Flying Daggers
Schindler's List
Godfather Part I
Godfather Part II
Kingdom of Heaven

G-wrath
02-19-2006, 10:22 PM
Shawshank Redemption
The New World
Billy Madison
Bubble Boy
Jarhead

redoneja
02-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Dumb and Dumber
EuroTrip
Sin City

and that's all I can remember :-\

AlphaBean
02-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Watched Domino and Class of 1984 last night. Along with finishing up the first season of Veronica Mars. Great show.

Not that I've been on topic at all in here, but that show is losing me this year. Like sometimes I feel like they're even phasing Veronica out of the stories, just so that they can put more emphasis on the other people. Dunno, the way networks are dicking people around with schedules is another big part of what turns me off of shows... I need to get TiVo so that I can control it, tbh.

Fryza
02-19-2006, 11:56 PM
- Date Movie (terrible movie, but it had its moments).
- Snatch (again. Great shit)

Boondock Saint
02-20-2006, 02:21 AM
Not that I've been on topic at all in here, but that show is losing me this year. Like sometimes I feel like they're even phasing Veronica out of the stories, just so that they can put more emphasis on the other people. Dunno, the way networks are dicking people around with schedules is another big part of what turns me off of shows... I need to get TiVo so that I can control it, tbh.

So the 2nd season isn't as good? I'm curious as to what the arc is this year, since I thought the who killed Lily Kane story was great.

One question, is Harry Hamlin in it this season?

Blitz
02-20-2006, 02:47 AM
Yeah, the major story arc isn't as good as the first season, but even at it's worse, VM is better than like 75% of everything else on TV.

And Boondock, Harry Hamlin's been in a couple of eps this season, and will likely be in a few more.

Boondock Saint
02-20-2006, 02:54 AM
Sweet.