"HEY, WHAT'S THAT OVER THERE??"

[Kris P Lettus]

"Right there, in the near future.."

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060315/060315_brees_vmed_5p.widec.jpg

"Wait a minute, the sun is in my eyes.."

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/ap_photo/20060407/all/l1857449.jpg

"I SEE IT!! LETS GET THAT SHIT!!11!"

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/photos/gallery/11-28-04%20Saints%20at%20Falcons/3_G3D8341-72.jpg

"Awww hell yeah.."

*dances jig*

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/photos/gallery/8-17-05%20Saints%20at%20Patriots/5-G3D1775.jpg

"Guys, it's over there.."

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060513/060513_bush_vmed_6p.widec.jpg

"J/K LOL"

http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9456845.jpg

"A winning season is no laughing matter, son.."

http://www.neworleansprofootball.com/pics/paytoncamp220.jpg

"Sorry, Coach.."

http://www.covers.com/images/2006/180x180/bush_reggie060516.jpg

"It's ok.. Now, as Deuce said, go help them get that shit, for lack of a better term.."

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060514/060514_ReggieBush_vmed_4p.widec.jpg

"I'm calling my mama!!!1!"

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos/2003-12-14-inside-saints.jpg

"And then, in Febuary of '07, WE DANCE!!"

http://www.cdol.com/saints/joe-retro-td.jpg

"WHO DAT?!?!?"

http://72.9.99.186/products/thumbs/SCT132413.jpg

~fin~

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

$$$

[Kris P Lettus]

Negotiations between Saints, Bush agent to heat up

Hard bargaining on a deal for Reggie Bush will begin on Thursday, ESPN.com has learned, as New Orleans Saints officials and agent Joel Segal are scheduled to engage in what almost certainly will be the most substantive negotiations yet on a contract for the second overall choice in the draft.

The negotiating session, expected to be conducted by phone, comes on the day when Saints players are to report to training camp at Millsaps College near Jackson, Miss. The initial practice under first-year coach Sean Payton is on Friday, and it will take a monumental breakthrough in the Thursday bargaining to get the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner onto the field for that workout.

To this point, the two sides have discussed framework and concepts and perhaps even floated some dollar figures, but it is believed the Saints have yet to make a formal offer to the former Southern California star.

Bush is seeking a deal in the range of the six-year, $54 million contract that defensive end Mario Williams, the top overall selection in the draft, received from the Houston Texans. Based on discussions with Saints officials before the draft, those financial expectations may be warranted.

New Orleans would prefer to work off the contract signed by last year's second overall choice, Miami tailback Ronnie Brown, but those numbers aren't apt to sway Bush or his representative.

The Dolphins signed Brown to a five-year, $34 million contract that included about $20 million in guaranteed money.

Compounding the negotiations for the Saints is the fact that Bush, who has embraced the hurricane-ravaged city of New Orleans and already made several sizeable donations to charities there, has banked $5 million to $7 million in various endorsement contracts negotiated by Mike Ornstein, his marketing agent.

That certainly alleviates the urgency for Bush to sign a contract quickly, since he already has considerable cash flow.

Bush said during the team's rookie minicamp in May that he wanted to be in camp on time and that he had instructed Segal to attempt to accomplish that goal. But only a few days later, Bush clarified his remarks, telling ESPN.com that any contract had to be a sound business decision.

There were reports last week that Bush might consider sitting out the entire 2006 season and re-entering the draft in 2007, but those were regarded as premature. Still, unless there is significant progress achieved quickly in negotiations, Bush's absence from camp could be a protracted one.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

[Stickman]

Are they still New Orleans Saints?

[Kris P Lettus]

Are you that retarded??

[Shisen Kopf]

7-9

[YOUR Hero]

5-11

[Stickman]

Are you that retarded??


I think that's directed my way, and to clarify, my comment was sarcastic in nature. However, I have no idea what New Orleans is like right now, I don't know if the mess has been cleaned up, I've heard the Stadium isn't fixed. Last year they didn't play out of New Orleans, so with the sarcastic overtones, it's a legitimate question.

[Boomer]

Everybody else in the division is gonna be too good for them to go anywhere, but maybe they'll prove me wrong.

[Kris P Lettus]

10-6

[RP]

Yah they better practice there endzone dances in training camp cause they wont get much practice during the season.

[RP]

btw 4-12

[Kris P Lettus]

btw 4-12

I know it's going to be a tough road after that devastating last season but surely the Colts will atleast be .500..

[RP]

15-1

[Kris P Lettus]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's too bad that your second loss will come in the playoffs..

[road doggy dogg]

And yours will come in October...



LOL JK GO LIONS

[Supreme Olajuwon]

6-10 maybe 7-9 if they can steal one from Atlanta or Tampa

[RP]

And yours will come in October...



LOL JK GO LIONS



Actually when does preseason start?

[Kris P Lettus]

Well fellows, I also have sigs, custom status, etc up for betting..

Bring it..

[road doggy dogg]

The Lions have treated me poorly far too many times for me to take that silly bet. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 37 times, shame on me.

[DrA]

I don't know, when Scott Fujita is considered one of your best free agent pick-ups you may be in trouble.

[Kris P Lettus]

He's better than every other LB we've had since Sam Mills, God rest his soul..

[Kris P Lettus]

5-11

LOL

We'd have to lose every game left this season including Niners'..

The street will run red with the blood of the nonbelievers..

They'll think the levees brokes again..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think your original prediction of 10-6 will probably be right

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm now thinking 11-5, maybe 12-4..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't know, a win is a win but they haven't really looked that ridiculously impressive in all of their games. Barely speaking out a win againest 0-4 Tampa Bay with their 2nd string QB starting kind of opened so eyes, not to mention the season opener againest Cleveland. Not discrediting the Saints, since like I said a win is a win and they could possibly go 11-5 but I see them finishing up at 10-6. That victory over Atlanta was big, but I don't know that game was just crazy, reopening of the Superdome then the blocked punt for a TD. Saints are definetly a playoff team, but I can't see them winning 12 games.

[Kris P Lettus]

What do you think the Pays record will end up being??

I mean, yall barely squeaked out a win against the Bills week one.. The Bears barely got one against the f'n Cards..

Everyone can have a bad game..

11-5

[Crippla]

:n:

[owenbrown]

What do you think the Pays record will end up being??

I mean, yall barely squeaked out a win against the Bills week one.. The Bears barely got one against the f'n Cards..

Everyone can have a bad game..

11-5

10-6 at least 11-5 may be tough seeing as good Atlanta and Carolina(barely) are in the NFC South. (Tampa Bay sucks.)

[owenbrown]

Then judging by the remaining schedule I could be wrong.... might be 9-7...


11/12(Tomorrow) at Pittsburgh
11/19 Cincinnati *?
11/26 at Atlanta * (gonna be a close game, IMHO, dome vs dome)
12/3 San Francisco
12/10 at Dallas *?
12/17 Washington
12/24 at N.Y. Giants *
12/31 Carolina *


*-tough games
*?- possible tough games

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What do you think the Pays record will end up being??

I mean, yall barely squeaked out a win against the Bills week one.. The Bears barely got one against the f'n Cards..

Everyone can have a bad game..

11-5I don't know what the Patriots have to do with the Saints, but they had ONE bad game againest a bad team. They have handled the rest of them - Patriots 2 loses came againest the Colts and Broncos - probably considered the 2 top teams in football right now so I dunno I think its a little different then the Saints.

[Kris P Lettus]

That you are saying ther Saints "they haven't really looked that ridiculously impressive in all of their games" could also be said of them too..

ATL will play us hard because of the Monday night swacking..

The Steelers and the Bengals are all on how well they play.. Could go either way.. The only other game the worries me is the Giants but with their injuries adding up, I dunno..

I still say 11-5..

[Kris P Lettus]

9-4

Who Dat??

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Who Dat??

http://assets.bengals.com/assets/default/gallery061119-1.jpg

Dat's who.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, yall beat us..

Just too bad yall are not gonna make the playoff for a rematch in the Super Bowl..

I mean, even if yall did make the playoffs, I'm sure way too many starters would be in jail to help yall win..

Who Dat??

[Supreme Olajuwon]

so you're claiming right now in front of everyone on TPWW that Saints are going to make the Super Bowl and you're so sure that if they don't you plan to post pictures of yourself in a pretty pink dress? That's bold

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Its not the Bengals fault they play in a better conference. The top 5 teams in the AFC > every team in the NFC

[Kris P Lettus]

Once again, I don't care that the AFC is better than the NFC.. Just means the Saints have an easier road to get to the Supoer Bowl.. And in the 90's the NFC won the Super Bowl like 13 straight years..

It's cycular..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well despite the fact that cycular is not a word, we can't ignore how the Saints have played against teams with bullying defenses (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Carolina). I'm not saying the Saints are soft, but I am saying it gets awfully cold and windy in Chicago in January and if my team played in a dome and had most of its success through the passing game I'd be slightly hesitant to claim they were Super Bowl bound.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Once again, I don't care that the AFC is better than the NFC.. Just means the Saints have an easier road to get to the Supoer Bowl.. And in the 90's the NFC won the Super Bowl like 13 straight years..

It's cycular..lol

All I said was it isn't the Bengals fault they are in a toucher conference then the Saints. So I really don't care if you don't care

WHO DAT!?!?!

[Kris P Lettus]

WTF

I say they are Super Bowl bound every year..

Don't be mad at me because neither of your teams are going to make it to the playoffs..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Who are you talking to? If you're talking to Stima or me, I'm fairly sure both of our favorite teams are in line to make the playoffs this year and coincidently are slated to face each other in the first round.

I don't see why you're getting defensive. You asked a question and I calmly and respectfully answered it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't really think the Patriots are Super Bowl bound this year, they might, but they got some holes..but uhh how exactly are the Patriots not making the playoffs?


HERES WHAT HAPPENED: You said to a Bengals fan "Too bad ya'll ain't gone make the playoffs!" so then I just added a comment about how it isn't the Bengals fault they aren't in the NFC. Then you come back with a completely unrelated comment about how that makes the Saints run to the Superbowl easier, and how you don't care about the AFC being better then the NFC. That's great, but I have no idea why you said that. Nowhere in my arguement did I claim you should care, my point was that you made fun of a team that beat your favorite team, then justified by claiming that your team is making the playoffs in a weaker conference.

I know you don't watch baseball, but it is kind of like Albert Pujols being pissed about Ryan Howard winning the MVP since Pujol's team made the playoffs and Howard's team didn't - but Howard's team actaully had a better record then Pujol's

[Kris P Lettus]

Write a book about it..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Good reply :y:

Pretty funny considering you wrote like nice little short story about the Saints in this very topic

WHATS THAT OVER THERE

[Kris P Lettus]

It's called a Super Bowl apperance, Michael..

THE ROAD TO THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GOES THROUGH THE CHOCOLATE THUNDERDOME

[AlphaBean]

Who are you talking to? If you're talking to Stima or me, I'm fairly sure both of our favorite teams are in line to make the playoffs this year and coincidently are slated to face each other in the first round.


Oh snap.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'd say this is a sign that karma exists but then I remember that the Chargers and Ravens are favorites to play in the AFC title game. Cheaters and criminals make for good football players.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Don't be mad at me because neither of your teams are going to make it to the playoffs..
Really?

[Kris P Lettus]

At the time, I didn't think the Broncos would fall off the face of the earth..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Broncos could have been 16-0, and the Patriots still would have made the playoffs :wtf:

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm saying, at that point I didn't think they'd make the playoffs due to there being more comp in the AFC..

Kinda how people said the Saints wouldn't make it at the beggining of the season..

Any given Sunday and all that..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

At that point in the season, I am pretty sure the Patriots had the AFC East locked up or just about locked up. I guess the Jets still "mathematically" had a chance but you know.

Still don't see what the Broncos had to do with the Patriots making the playoffs at all - and it is nothing like people saying shit about the Saints at the start of the season either but alright y'all!

[Kris P Lettus]

Dude, why do you always want to get in these stupid ass debates with me??

I was talking shit..

Get over it..

Chargers 41 Pats 24

[stima]

Oh so you can write off any retarded comment as "talking shit"

Its called calling somebody out when they are talking shit, not debating "stupid shit"

[Nervous Ferret]

Hate how Krispy always purposely doesn't shift his one key at least 1 time when doing exclamation points. But then he'll finish it off like a human being would. Observe:

LETS GET THAT SHIT!!11!"

[Kris P Lettus]

I hate your face..>.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Stupid ass debates

I guess if you call somebody out when they say something retarded, I mean, "talk shit" that is called debating.

Saying the Broncos falling off the face of the earth had an effect on the Patriots playoff chances is like saying Bengals falling off had an effect on the Saints playoff chances. Its straight up retard and means absolutely nothing, no debate about.

[Kris P Lettus]

I don't care about the AFC..

I said yall would not make the playoffs in jest..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am starting to see you make a lot of statements in jest

[Kris P Lettus]

lol

You are just now figering out that 95% of my posts are bullshit??

[Kris P Lettus]

I thought we were better than that, holmes..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I perfer talking shit with facts, anyone can say so and so sucks or something. Shits weak, WIZZZEAK

[Kris P Lettus]

I talk all types of shit..

Factual, fictional, whatever..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

BTW Reche Caldwell will be picking up where his little bro left off tonight

[RP]

Peyton Manning was robbed of a spot on the ALL-Pro team. When you really break it down, he was better then Drew Brees period this year. But whatever. Saints will get beat by the Eagles.

[Kris P Lettus]

Wanna bet on it??

[RP]

Wanna bet on it??

Given the fact that Indianapolis's run defense was historically bad giving up almost 200 yards a game, Manning was forced to work with fewer offensive possessions. If you do the research and compare it to Drew Brees, and then estimate what his number would have been, if his run defense was just bad and not historically bad, then put his actual numbers in context, the argument can be made that Manning was infact the better QB this year.

[Kris P Lettus]

I will bet both my avatar and my custom status on The Saints and the Ravems..

avatar-Saints game
status-Ravens game

You down??

[RP]

Drew Brees : Completion percentage 64.3% Yards 4418 TD's 26 INTs 11 QB rating 96.2

Peyton Manning :Completion percentage 65.0 Yards 4397 TD's 31 INT's 9 QB Rating 101.0



Sure, what would you like to bet?

[Kris P Lettus]

I'll bet my status against the Colts and my avatar on the Saints..

THIS WEEKEND

[RP]

Whats your status? Idiot?

[Kris P Lettus]

"*Onepeat Hopeful*"

You are retarded..

[Kris P Lettus]

NFC CHAMPIONSHIP

WHO DAT??

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pretty hot game

[Kris P Lettus]

Pretty sloppy actually..

I almost shit my pants when Bush fumbled late in the forth.. Deuce was OUTSTANDING, and I dunno why they didn't just keep feeding him the ball..

Great win..

Go Seahawks..

:shifty:

Who Dat??

[Kris P Lettus]

16 HOURS 20 MINS

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

WHO DAT!?!?!!!!111!!1!

[Kris P Lettus]

We need conerbacks in the draft or free agancy..

Roman Harper will be back..

NFC is ours for the taking next year..

Who Dat??

[Shisen Kopf]

lol

All I said was it isn't the Bengals fault they are in a toucher conference then the Saints. So I really don't care if you don't care

WHO DAT!?!?!

thats the thing with the NFC, its so weak that any team could pretty much do what the Saints did, except for Detroit. Watch out for San Fran next year.

[Kris P Lettus]

Any team can do it, is just another "any given sunday" spiel..

Any team might be able to do it, but only 4 teams actually do..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Steamin' Wille Beeman baby

[RP]

Who dat?