Best Manager of All Time!!!!! [Archive]

HoganNosDeezNutz

08-12-2006, 12:09 AM

Now here's a question, we have disputes of who is the best wrestler, but who is the best manager that helped them gain that success....Just a thought

Bad Company

08-12-2006, 12:12 AM

Hulk Hogan

Dorkchop

08-12-2006, 12:16 AM

Bobby the Brain Heenan is my personal favorite, and probably the best ever.

HoganNosDeezNutz

08-12-2006, 12:17 AM

Bobby the Brain is a good one

HoganNosDeezNutz

08-12-2006, 12:18 AM

But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

Corkscrewed

08-12-2006, 01:54 AM

Heenan definitely. And of course, Freddy Blassie was a legendary manager.

But Jimmy Hart had a megaphone with him at all times. That alone probably won his wrestlers a lot of matches via annoyance.

The Fugitive

08-12-2006, 02:06 AM

I'm sorry, a lot of people will say Heenan was the best manager (and he was one of the best, I'm not denying his talent), however I always felt Jim Cornette was the best in the business.

The Genius

08-12-2006, 02:53 AM

jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

MMercM

08-12-2006, 03:07 AM

jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

I really really loved those jackets. Really did. But in all honesty, Bobby the Brain takes the cake. He could play a comedic character then 10 minutes later get all serious, and he really flowed with that, I thought.

FourFifty

08-12-2006, 03:21 AM

Freddie Blassie, Bobby The Brain, James E. Cornette. If I had to pick one....

All due respect, but my vote goes to James E. Cornette.

Impeccable

08-12-2006, 07:32 AM

Bobby Heenan for me.

He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager.

EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

The Mackem

08-12-2006, 11:51 AM

But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

Liar!

KingofOldSchool

08-12-2006, 11:52 AM

Bobby Heenan, Jim Cornette, Freddie Blassie

NeanderCarl

08-12-2006, 11:56 AM

Bobby Heenan for me.

He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager.

EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

Ted DiBiase was a manager, from 1994 - 1996 and again in WCW 1996 - 1998. Surprisingly, he was a piss-poor manager. That may have been something to do with the quality of his charges however (Kama, King Kong Bundy, Sid, Tatanka, I.R.S., Xanta Klaus et al.) His stable read like a Who's Who of WrestleCrap. But he wasn't particularly effective in the role either. Just look at Steve Austin... the only time DiBiase's management ever helped him was when he left him.

My pick has got to be Bobby Heenan, hands down, although honourable mentions go to Paul E. Dangerously and Jim Cornette.

Worst ever manager goes to HBK's manager during his first title run, "Super Sock" Jose Lothario, IMO.

Caged Heat18

08-12-2006, 03:36 PM

I'd have to say Booby Heenan. Although Jimmy Hart was a good one as well.

owenbrown

08-12-2006, 05:15 PM

Bobby "The Brain". No question. :y:

Yashamaga

08-12-2006, 05:41 PM

Heenan

Karlsberg

08-12-2006, 06:26 PM

Heenan and Cornette are greatness but if I had to choose between the 2 I would have to say Cornette.

Kane Knight

08-12-2006, 06:41 PM

Moe Sizzlac.

Ben Rodrigues

08-13-2006, 08:36 AM

Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years?

Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.

Chavo Classic

08-13-2006, 08:54 AM

Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

Ben Rodrigues

08-13-2006, 08:57 AM

Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

Exactly. The Rock/Brock feud was excellent (I believe this is when Heyman was on the creative team as well). Loved the mindgames - one segment that stands out for me is The Rock arriving at the arena and opening an envelope from Heyman which contained photos of a bloody Hogan. Tremendous.

Stickman

08-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Mr. Perfect. he made Ric Flair......well maybe not, but Perfect was awesome.

Anybody Thrilla

08-13-2006, 02:18 PM

Heenan was good, but I think people fell in love with his commentating so much that it carried over into their evaluation his managerial work.

I'm gonna go with Jim Cornette.

NeanderCarl

08-13-2006, 09:28 PM

No way is Heenan overrated. Yes, his commentary was awesome. But the guy was a major heat magnet during his managerial run in AWA and WWF. He even managed to get Haku and The Barbarian over, dammit! And his ringside performances were incredible... the way he'd recoil at each bump his charge would take, gloat when they were in control and interact with the fans.... nobody else comes near.

And Ben, I did say Heyman, or rather Paul E. Dangerously, as an honourable mention. He was brilliant as the sleazy obnoxious businessman with the ENORMOUS cellphone.

RockyLover

08-14-2006, 01:08 AM

The great one has only one word for the people "Mr. Fuji"!
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/s/somoans/02.jpg
If yeah smelllllllllll.... what the rockylover is cooking~

NeanderCarl

08-14-2006, 02:02 AM

For those Heenan and Cornette lovers, here they share a little screen time on Cornette's WWF debut:

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FourFifty

08-14-2006, 02:29 AM

NeanderCarl

08-14-2006, 03:27 AM

And that clip just emphasises my point about how Heenan could draw heat. A lot of those fans probably had never clapped eyes on Cornette before, yet he was treated as a villain, guilty by association with the "Weasel"... and it helped that Heenan, in another of his major talents, put Cornette's arrival over BIG time as a huge event.

Anybody Thrilla

08-14-2006, 07:31 PM

But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager. :shifty:

Anybody Thrilla

08-14-2006, 07:32 PM

Hanso Amore

08-14-2006, 08:23 PM

Heenan was the biggest heel to combat Hogan in the eighties. He was always bringing in new members to the family and without him, hogan MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN AS BIG as he was.....Well, maybe not, but you need a great heel to get a face over, and people dont even realize that heenan did that job.

More people in the country could tell you who Bobby heenan is than John Cena.

he was the number 1 heel during wrestlings biggest boom.

Anybody Thrilla

08-14-2006, 08:29 PM

I do love the shit out of Bobby Heenan.

Aussie Skier

08-14-2006, 08:32 PM

best manager of all time...

hmmm...I always liked Jim Cornette personally, and Jimmy Hart also.

Weezel was good too, cos he really got under your skin, and Mr.Perfect with Ric flair was special also.
I've gotta say that ric Flair was a pretty sweet manager with HHH too

Fox

08-14-2006, 09:00 PM

Gonna go outside the norm here and say Miss Elizabeth.

She drew more heat for Randy Savage than he ever would have on his own. If it wasn't for her, The Macho Man would never have become a household name.

RIP.

NeanderCarl

08-14-2006, 09:32 PM

But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager. :shifty:

But in Cornette's own words, only because Heenan retired....

NeanderCarl

08-14-2006, 09:34 PM

Maybe we should just call it a draw.

I personally vote Heenan over James E. on the basis of the status of the wrestlers he managed. Heenan managed more big stars and champions than Cornette, who seemed to mainly specialise in tag teams.

Cornette had Yokozuna. Heenan had Andre The Giant. There's no comparison.

Well, other than both were fat.

DRBailey

08-15-2006, 07:31 AM

Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years?

Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.

I'm just gonna put this idea out there....Dangerous Alliance...run with it...:D

What about the Grand Wizard of Wrestling? Though Cornette and Heenan do kind of run away from the pack a bit...

NeanderCarl

08-15-2006, 09:30 AM

Grand Wizard was okay, verbally compares well to modern standards, but he was by no means the best ever. Same with Blassie and Albano, the other two heel managers of that era.

Definitely a standard setter and originator, but was surpassed on nearly every level by his successors.

Innovator

08-15-2006, 05:27 PM

You fools, the greatest manager is Prince Nana! Lets go get some steak

NeanderCarl

08-15-2006, 07:50 PM

Speaking of managers, is Arrrrrrrrmando Ellejandrrro Estrrrrrrrrrada ever going to get in the ring and actually wrestle??

He was a wrestler, right?

Xero

08-15-2006, 07:54 PM

Speaking of managers, is Arrrrrrrrmando Ellejandrrro Estrrrrrrrrrada ever going to get in the ring and actually wrestle??

He was a wrestler, right?
So was Bobby Heenan, but once he started managing no one cared he was a manager.

Some wrestlers are much more suited to be managers, and Armando, in my opinion, is one of them.