Official WWE Backlash (2007) Thread

[St. Jimmy]

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Fatal Four-way for the WWE Championship:
John Cena (c) vs. HBK vs. Edge vs. Randy Orton

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3-on-1 Handycapped Match for the ECW Championship
Bobby "Don't call me Buckwheat" Lashley (c)
vs. Vince and Shane McMahon, and Umaga

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Last Man Standing Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
The Undertaker (c) vs. Batista

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World Tag Team Championship Match
The Hardyz (c) vs. Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch

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United States Championship Match
Chris "the Crippler" Beniot (c) vs. "The Missing Power-Ranger": MVP

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WWE Womens Championship Match
Melina (c) vs. Mickie James
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I'm putting this up WAY early, hopefully someone will garner intrest in it. Looks like a good show. I'm gonna watch online for free (obviously). I'd check it out.

[RGWhat316]

Well, I'm going to be going to a friend's house to watch it. Probably be back later with some thoughts. Though I do think the US and Women's titles are definitely switching.

[mannydamnxpacrock]

Any sites to watch it for free? I don't find it worth the money to order.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Wouldn't be completely suprised if Cena dropped the belt.</font>

[Disturbed316]

Getting it free so I'll be watching this one.

[Disturbed316]

Just noticed how out of date that picture of Umaga is.

[XL]

I'm gonna watch online for free (obviously). I'd check it out.

And how are you doing that?

[mannydamnxpacrock]

They may be showing it here. http://wweandtna.niceboard.com/WWE-c1/WWE-Backlash-2007-f17.htm

[CSL]

Just noticed how out of date that picture of Umaga is.

?

[mannydamnxpacrock]

He still has the IC title in the pic.

[CSL]

<font color=white>LoL. Completely forgot he'd dropped that.</font>

[Londoner]

Watching this free on Sky tonight, should help take my mind off of things, wrestling always seems to be good for that. Cant be fucked with getting drunk now though.

[Blitz]

You got rid of the Shiny.Jangly. :(

[St. Jimmy]

You got rid of the Shiny.Jangly. :(

Yeah, I didn't want a JamesSteele sized Sig.

[St. Jimmy]

3 Sets of Annoncers again... NOOO.

[CSL]

<font color=white>And we'll be starting with tag titles...</font>

[XL]

So Jimmy don't suppose you have a link you feel like being generous with?

[St. Jimmy]

Nah, I'm stealing it through non internet means.

[St. Jimmy]

Pissbreak to start the night is always good. *sigh*

[CSL]

<font color=white>Crowd seem pretty into it.</font>

[Londoner]

This match is dragging on a bit, have decided to start drinking as a result, shame i didnt buy anymore.

Edit: Thank god thats over, decent match but a bit too long.

[St. Jimmy]

That should count for tipsters as a Twist of Fate/Swanton combo

[CSL]

<font color=white>Hardyz win. Meh finish.</font>

[St. Jimmy]

Kay, get out of the ring now...

[St. Jimmy]

JEWMAGAAAAA

[Londoner]

That should count for tipsters as a Twist of Fate/Swanton combo


Maximum points for me in tipsters so far then.

[lort]

Getting it free on Sky tonight, woo.

I enjoyed that match, Cade and Murdoch impress me more and more as I see more of them.

[St. Jimmy]

Vince is going for an ABT thing here.

[CSL]

<font color=white>:lol: @ Vince's bandana.</font>

[Londoner]

Getting it free on Sky tonight, woo.

I enjoyed that match, Cade and Murdoch impress me more and more as I see more of them.


Murdoch seems to have lost weight and that might be why, he seems more able to move around the ring these days, why he was ever signed in the state he was in in the first place is beyond me.

[Londoner]

Two piss break matches out the way first, not a bad idea i guess, wish i brought some more beer though, ugh.

[St. Jimmy]

Why is Mickie James wearing pants? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.

[CSL]

<font color=white>I fucking hate Mickie's music.

And that skip thing she does.</font>

[Londoner]

<font color=white>I fucking hate Mickie's music.

And that skip thing she does.</font>

I hated it at first but have come to accept it cause you have to really.

[lort]

Strange how they haven't mentioned the change of title in France dispite WWE seemingly accepting it as official.

[Londoner]

Strange how they haven't mentioned the change of title in France dispite WWE seemingly accepting it as official.

This is the WWE were on about, it wasn't meant to happen..so it never did. :shifty:

[Better Than You]

Fine match here tonight.

[Better Than You]

Crotch drop.

[Better Than You]

This is the WWE were on about, it wasn't meant to happen..so it never did. :shifty:Hey, they actually put it in the record books, usually they would have just ignored it. It's a welcome change.

[Better Than You]

Brawling from the splits, awesome.

[Londoner]

2 out of 2 in tipsters for me now, good match surprisingly.

[Better Than You]

Nice match.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Mariaaaaa</font>

[Londoner]

Kennedys winning tonight. Calling it now.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Also, Edge is god.

And his new tee is bad ass.</font>

[lort]

Kennedy cashing in? Now that would be awesome.

[CSL]

<font color=white>KENNEDYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

Don't think he's gonna get the belt though.</font>

[Londoner]

Or maybe they'll just tease this for a while.

[Londoner]

Gonna be fucking good this. MVP V Benoit next.

[Better Than You]

They should tease it for months.

[Better Than You]

MVP v Benoit... he's hoping Benoit is well rested. Gonna have to bust his ass tonight. How much does MVP weigh?

[CSL]

<font color=white>Time for MVP to get the US title. In Benoit's 'hometown' as well.</font>

[lort]

Or maybe they'll just tease this for a while.

They probably are just teasing, expect to see him doing that quite a lot till he does cash in.

MVP now. I just don't understand his blow-up tunnel.

[Better Than You]

Cole is stuttering tonight.

[Londoner]

I hope we haven't seen the best from these two already tbh.

[Londoner]

Nice match ever since i posted that, action just picked up.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Whilst I normally can't stand it, MVP's gear tonight doesn't look bad.</font>

[Londoner]

I've never minded MVP's gear, looks a bit odd on him i guess but its not as bad as its been made out to be.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Power ranger chant :D </font>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Were JR and King calling the Women's Title match (I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't be)? That explains why they didn't mention the title change. Senile cunts.

MVP is the fucking man, but I don't want to see him get the US Title here tonight. I think it would be better if they had Benoit retain, and kept this thing going for even longer. MVP started off by knowing the Crossface in and out (it would be good if the announcers revealed he used to use the move in his developmental days), so Benoit had to take to the skies with the Air Benoit. Then MVP countered that and won a non-title match. I didn't see their latest affair, but I'm not counting that on the level of their WrestleMania, 20-minute SmackDown! and Backlash matches. So the logical transgression would be to put Benoit over here, when he counters MVP's heel roll-up, and slaps MVP in the Crippler Crossface, or something.

[Jeritron]

If Cena loses the belt tonight, I will shave my head... and I mean it. I also have hair plenty of hair at the moment

[Londoner]

5 german suplexes..was hoping for about 8 or something..MVP counters headbutt into submission hold on Benoits leg, great match this.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What is MVP's attire like tonight? I personally like his costumes, they're very Kurt Angle-ish. I'm not too big on some of the colour shemes, though. The wardrobe department really needs to get their shit together, and put MVP in compliementary colours, or something. Purple and silver is just...yeck.

Please, WWE, let MVP bust out the Live from the 305. That move would be fucking insane.

Oh, and if Kennedy referenced cashing in tonight, I doubt he will. Which match did he tease going into? It won't be the one he hinted it was.

[Londoner]

Benoit wins with the small package pin.

[lort]

Can't have a PPV without a roll-up.

[Better Than You]

crazy

[CSL]

Wow. Benoit wins.

[Londoner]

Not good for me in tipsters. Ah well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Benoit winning was an easy call. I predicted submission, though. I rarely call roll-ups, though. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. :y:

[Jeritron]

good. Everyone's all of a sudden on MVP's dick because he gets carried to a few decent matches by Benoit.

[CSL]

Which match did he tease going into? It won't be the one he hinted it was.

Hadn't thought of it like this. I wouldn't be suprised to see him go after Lashley.

And here's Cena.

[lort]

Oh, and if Kennedy referenced cashing in tonight, I doubt he will. Which match did he tease going into? It won't be the one he hinted it was.

He was teasing chashing in to get the WWE Championship. Wished Edge luck in winning and hoped he doesn't tire himself out too much.

[Londoner]

LOL@That segment with Cena and Orton..DAMN

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've predicted all the winners, but I've only got two "How"s right, and I haven't called the move correctly in the one I did. Ah well, still picking up a few points here and there.

[Better Than You]

Was that begining of the burial of Randy Orton?

[CSL]

:lol:

Decent skit.

[lort]

I can't believe DAMN still makes me laugh. Ron is fantastic.

[Better Than You]

good. Everyone's all of a sudden on MVP's dick because he gets carried to a few decent matches by Benoit.Not I says fly.

[Londoner]

Handicap match now. Can't really see Lashley loosing, its hard to make anyone look like a threat to Lashley.

[Mr. Nerfect]

good. Everyone's all of a sudden on MVP's dick because he gets carried to a few decent matches by Benoit.

Um, MVP has been doing his fair share of the work. At risk of sounding blasphemous, one could argue that MVP has crossed the 50% line and is actually carrying most of the matches.

[Jeritron]

6 matches
6 title matches
6 title retentions

[Londoner]

Um, MVP has been doing his fair share of the work. At risk of sounding blasphemous, one could argue that MVP has crossed the 50% line and is actually carrying most of the matches.

I agree. People should stop being so judgmental and just let him perform, if he does shit, criticise him, but if he does well then he deserves praise imo.

[Jeritron]

Um, MVP has been doing his fair share of the work. At risk of sounding blasphemous, one could argue that MVP has crossed the 50% line and is actually carrying most of the matches.


I just don't like MVP and even if he puts in a decent match with a great opponent, it's not enough to convince me otherwise that he's suddenly something special or entertaining. He's cheesy and bland as all hell, and even what he's done as of late has been blown up into the most overrated shit. Suddenly there's an MVP bandwagon and everything he does is getting over hyped and everyones jumping on. Then it gets to the point where he is awesome and can do no wrong so smarks eat it all up. It's pretty typical

[Better Than You]

Um, MVP has been doing his fair share of the work. At risk of sounding blasphemous, one could argue that MVP has crossed the 50% line and is actually carrying most of the matches.One could argue that, at the risk of sounding retarded.

[Londoner]

Umaga physically dominating? Haha fucking ha shut the fuck up tazz.

[Better Than You]

I agree. People should stop being so judgmental and just let him perform, if he does shit, criticise him, but if he does well then he deserves praise imo.And you fail to see how we don't think he's doing well. Interesting.

[Jeritron]

I agree. People should stop being so judgmental and just let him perform, if he does shit, criticise him, but if he does well then he deserves praise imo.

I agree but he's still not that great, and he's becoming a bandwagon overhpyed IWC flavor of the week who's done little more than have 1 or 2 good matches with Benoit. His gimmick sucks and he's annoying as fuck to see on my screen.

[Londoner]

And you fail to see how we don't think he's doing well. Interesting.


No, i was aiming that at people like Jeritron.

[lort]

I love Shane O'Mac. He could win the ECW title it would be great. They should bring back the Mean Street Posse too - those guys were hillarious.

The crowd are dead, hardly any boos for Vince.

[Londoner]

And fuck i just realised i forgot to tape this PPV, ugh, ill tape the replay if its worth it.

[Better Than You]

I think MVP has a fine gimmick, he's just not that great from bell to bell. Watching the match at Mania was painful. Benoit was working REAL hard, and MVP was barely keeping up, even to the point of Benoit having to slow down to not loose him.

ANd then I come on here. Everyone is praising MVP. Why? Benoit BUSTED HIS ASS to make him look decent. And you all praise MVP? Crazy.

[Jeritron]

No, i was aiming that at people like Jeritron.


Same still applies though. I'm watching the same product as you and him are. I thought he sucked in November, I think he sucked in March, and I think he sucks in April.
Maybe if he can overhaul his whole schtick and have an impressive match with someone else (that isn't overblown and overhpyed) then I'll take notice. But as of now I'm watching the same thing as you are and I see a power ranger with athletic talent but not much more having a DECENT series of matches with Benoit.
If he can do it with someone else who isn't as established for carrying people to great matches and shitting out quality when the bell rings, then I'll take serious notice.

[Better Than You]

I guess it goes to show you how good Benoit is...

[The One]

I agree but he's still not that great, and he's becoming a bandwagon overhpyed IWC flavor of the week who's done little more than have 1 or 2 good matches with [An incredible talent]. His gimmick sucks and he's annoying as fuck to see on my screen.

Samoa Joe? CM Punk? Mr Kennedy? Bryan Danielson? Matt Hardy? Some Japanese Guy? AJ Styles? Alex Shelley? Austin Aeris/Starr? Spanky? Paul London? MVP? Carlito? Kenny? Sabin? Nitro? Shelton? Gregory Helms?

You could have been talking about any of them...

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just don't like MVP and even if he puts in a decent match with a great opponent, it's not enough to convince me otherwise that he's suddenly something special or entertaining. He's cheesy and bland as all hell, and even what he's done as of late has been blown up into the most overrated shit. Suddenly there's an MVP bandwagon and everything he does is getting over hyped and everyones jumping on. Then it gets to the point where he is awesome and can do no wrong so smarks eat it all up. It's pretty typical

I think the reason the MVP love has been so great as of late, is because people didn't expect it. For people who have seen his DSW or house show work, the guy has proven himself to have levels of awesomeness. I wouldn't say he's the best ever, or anything, but he's got a great build, great skill for said build, and he's got so many cool moves up his sleeve, the guy could make every match like sex if the WWE let him.

Unfortunately, when he came into the WWE his debut was against Marty Garner (most famous for taking Triple H's Pedigree as an inadvertent double underhook piledriver). Then he feuded with Kane. Now I love Kane, but he's not exactly the world's most brilliant technician. Putting MVP into a feud with him isn't going to show the world what Antonio Banks is capable of.

He's not perfect in any area, yet. When he goes twenty minutes or so, his matches have a lot of stalling. He has to get that down before he can truly be the great performer he is shaping up to be. His promos could also use a little more zest. They aren't horrible, but they aren't brilliant. He's got potential in that area, though, so given time, he could perfect that area.

All in all, like him or not, looking at things unbiased, you have to admit MVP is at least a B+ level talent, with potential to climb. For a guy that has had like two feuds since coming to the WWE, that is pretty impressive shit. We're not just talking about a Paul London or Brian Kendrick, who have enormous amounts of talent, could do what any main eventer does just as well, but won't ever get the chance; MVP actually has a shot at being a top guy. In a sea of Bobby Lashleys and John Cenas, a Montel Vontavious Porter is a welcome change.

[Jeritron]

He needs to drop the T.O meets Power Ranger gimmick too

[Better Than You]

I think the reason the MVP love has been so great as of late, is because people didn't expect it. For people who have seen his DSW or house show work, the guy has proven himself to have levels of awesomeness. I wouldn't say he's the best ever, or anything, but he's got a great build, great skill for said build, and he's got so many cool moves up his sleeve, the guy could make every match like sex if the WWE let him.

Unfortunately, when he came into the WWE his debut was against Marty Garner (most famous for taking Triple H's Pedigree as an inadvertent double underhook piledriver). Then he feuded with Kane. Now I love Kane, but he's not exactly the world's most brilliant technician. Putting MVP into a feud with him isn't going to show the world what Antonio Banks is capable of.

He's not perfect in any area, yet. When he goes twenty minutes or so, his matches have a lot of stalling. He has to get that down before he can truly be the great performer he is shaping up to be. His promos could also use a little more zest. They aren't horrible, but they aren't brilliant. He's got potential in that area, though, so given time, he could perfect that area.

All in all, like him or not, looking at things unbiased, you have to admit MVP is at least a B+ level talent, with potential to climb. For a guy that has had like two feuds since coming to the WWE, that is pretty impressive shit. We're not just talking about a Paul London or Brian Kendrick, who have enormous amounts of talent, could do what any main eventer does just as well, but won't ever get the chance; MVP actually has a shot at being a top guy. In a sea of Bobby Lashleys and John Cenas, a Montel Vontavious Porter is a welcome change.:y: YOu give him more than I would, but very fair asestment.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Bobby Lashley has little hippo ears.</font>

[Londoner]

Same still applies though. I'm watching the same product as you and him are. I thought he sucked in November, I think he sucked in March, and I think he sucks in April.
Maybe if he can overhaul his whole schtick and have an impressive match with someone else (that isn't overblown and overhpyed) then I'll take notice. But as of now I'm watching the same thing as you are and I see a power ranger with athletic talent but not much more having a DECENT series of matches with Benoit.
If he can do it with someone else who isn't as established for carrying people to great matches and shitting out quality when the bell rings, then I'll take serious notice.

I just have a less judgmental mindset than you i think, fair enough though thats your opinion, i hated him at first but he's grown on me before his matches with Benoit. Unlike most, I expected those matches to be good, the way MVP is built makes it easier for Benoit to get a good match out of him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Samoa Joe? CM Punk? Mr Kennedy? Bryan Danielson? Matt Hardy? Some Japanese Guy? AJ Styles? Alex Shelley? Austin Aeris/Starr? Spanky? Paul London? MVP? Carlito? Kenny? Sabin? Nitro? Shelton? Gregory Helms?

You could have been talking about any of them...

LMAO! I love the way you take shots at us for liking guys with talent in a field we like to watch.

If you like movies, take an interest in the craft of acting, and notice Ryan Gosling is one of the brightest up-and-comers in that industry, why the fuck wouldn't you support him? Why the fuck wouldn't you like him? Why the fuck wouldn't you try and talk him up to people who are willing to listen.

If you aren't willing to listen to wrestling fans discussng the bright starts of wrestling, you might as well stop watching, or have ended your life back in the early 1990's, when Ric Flair stopped being relevent. He himself is an overrated cock. Chop block, Figure Four, yay. The end.

Everyone has their flaws, just because a lot of people see the good doesn't make them overrated. Just because you're jealous because you went nowhere in the business, and those guys have fans, simply because they're probably just better than you, doesn't make them bland.

By your logic, anyone with talent is overrated. Fuck off. Overrated is when a person isn't as good as they are made out to be. The guys you listed, and I don't want to call your opinion wrong, are as good as they are made out to be. Stop being such a bitter fuck just because people like to talk about talented guys.

[Jeritron]

I will say however, Rocky Maivia and The Ringmaster were floundering and boring to watch at one point. He just needs a change. Decent matches are better than crappy matches. The importance in all this lies in his character, his overall performance and his ability to entertain. At the moment, he just needs to become more entertaining and not as low rent. His current caliber of matches would be fine, since 5 stars doesn't put the asses in seats as much as entertainment paired with decent work does.

[Mr. Nerfect]

One could argue that, at the risk of sounding retarded.

From where I sit, the only thing Benoit has brought to the table in his program with MVP, is that he goes along with the matches, understands what the point of MVP's psychology is, and he co-operates. Benoit certainly hasn't been sleeping through the matches, but an idiot can see that they are designed to be vehicles for MVP to strut his stuff, and strut it well he has.

[Londoner]

Vince wins, wtf.

[Better Than You]

What. No.

[lort]

hahaha what!

Vince!

hahahaha.

[Londoner]

Major heel heat, now, im interested.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

WTF?

[Jeritron]

Great development, and I'm not kidding.

[The Fugitive]

I'm calling bullshit on that.

[Londoner]

I love it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hahahaha! I love the way Vince seems to actually have his heart (if not his mind) in the right place for his feuds, then he sticks around a little bit more than he needs to, and then he does shit like this which just fucks everything up.

The only way this will be anywhere near decent, is if Elijah Burke or CM Punk is presented with the belt by Vince McMahon on ECW this week.

[Jeritron]

As long as this advance his fued with Lashley, puts big heel heat on him and it actually does somethin for ECW I'm happy.

Perhaps a tournament to crow a new champion...while moving Lashley off of ECW to further his fued with McMahon...

[Skippord]

AWESOME

[lort]

I think it's great!

[Jeritron]

Vince McMahon is a 2 time world champion

[Better Than You]

LOL, anti-bandwagon jumper?

The only thing Benoit has brought to the table in his program with MVP, is that he goes along with the matches, understands what the point of MVP's psychology is, and he co-operates. Benoit certainly hasn't been sleeping through the matches, but an idiot can see that they are designed to be vehicles for MVP to strut his stuff, and strut it well he has.ROFL. Anti-wagon jumper becuase what? YOu all are acting like MVP has done something do deserve merit? So, in a way I guess yo're right. Either way you're either on the bandwagon or you're not. And I am not.

You see my point though. They are vehicles for MVP to good, to look like a star, somehting that he is not. They are creating a star, but just like Cena, Lashey, and others are not true stars, they're forced. They're fake. And that's the same path MVP is wlaking. The path of yet another wrestler that just inst what is advertised.

Benoit has made him look good. (And believe it or not, good wrestlers can do that.) MVP will come out of this shinning, becaused that how propoganda works, to push an idea onto your sheep, in this case, that MVP is a tlented athlete.

[lort]

Hahaha. Vince and Shane with the ECW Originals is excellent.

[Londoner]

ROFL. Anti-wagon jumper becuase what? YOu all are acting like MVP has done something do deserve merit? So, in a way I guess yo're right. Either way you're either on the bandwagon or you're not. And I am not.

Exactly. They are vehicles for MVP to good, to look like a star, somehting that he is not. They are creating a star, but just like Cena, Lashey, and others are not true stars, they're forced. They're fake. And that's the same path MVP is wlaking. The path of yet another wrestler that just inst what is advertised.

Benoit has made him look good. (And believe it or not, good wrestlers can do that.) MVP will come out of this shinning, becaused that how propoganda works, to push an idea onto your sheep, in this case, that MVP is a tlented athlete.

Lets just wait and see eh?

[Mr. Nerfect]

As long as this advance his fued with Lashley, puts big heel heat on him and it actually does somethin for ECW I'm happy.

Perhaps a tournament to crow a new champion...while moving Lashley off of ECW to further his fued with McMahon...

That actually isn't a bad idea. Bobby Lashley really hasn't been a part of ECW. There is no real compelling reason to keep him there.

CM Punk, Elijah Burke, Kevin Thorn, Marcus Cor Von, Matt Striker, Rob Van Dam, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer, The Sandman and Snitsky should all be a part of the tournament. That's 10 guys, which is kind of messy. Maybe some kind of theme where they get everyone in ECW, put them into a competition, where once you are pinned or submit, you are out of contention. At the end of the competition, there will only be one name left, and he will be ECW World Champion.

So yeah, kind of like a tournament, only with no formal structure.

[BigDaddyCool]

I was so hoping for a Samone spike on McMahon

[Londoner]

Hahaha. Vince and Shane with the ECW Originals is excellent.


I can see a good feud developing there, would be great to see one of the originals beat Vince, good story there.

[Better Than You]

Lets just wait and see eh?Been doing that for monthes now, and after he's been tested by a REAL athlete (Benoit) on a huge stage (Mania) it's time to weigh in on him.

It's not set in stone though, he's full of potential. But potential is worthless.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would mark the fuck out for Vince vs. RVD in an Extreme Rules Match, where the Originals just beat the shit out of Vince, and RVD then gets the pin and wins back the belt.

If Vince was willing to get his ass kicked good by the them, and The Undertaker was willing to stop being a pussy bitch because he doesn't like The Sandman, it would get RVD, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman over as legitimate WWE Superstars (moreso).

[Better Than You]

WE CANT STOP HERE!

[Londoner]

Been doing that for monthes now, and after he's been tested by a REAL athlete (Benoit) on a huge stage (Mania) it's time to weigh in on him.

It's not set in stone though, he's full of potential. But potential is worthless.

Um, potential is anything but worthless mate, do you know what potential is?

[Better Than You]

THIS IS BAT COUNTRY!

[Better Than You]

Um, potential is anything but worthless mate, do you know what potential is?Yeah, sure do, something that only exist in theory. It isn't real until STOPS being potential, and becomes talent.

[BigDaddyCool]

I need a lap top, or a way to get ppv on my 2nd tv, this is annoying

[Londoner]

Yeah, sure do, something that only exist in theory. It isn't real until STOPS being potential, and becomes talent.

If he has potential then that's a good thing, surely? You guys are too judgmental tbh, but you have a right to make your own opinions.

Anyway, enough about MVP, last man standing match now, looking forward to it despite we know Taker will win.

[CSL]

Batista looks like he's gonna cry.

[Better Than You]

Ever heard the saying "cant buy a cup of coffee on potential?" Yeah they has a meaning.

[lort]

I can see a good feud developing there, would be great to see one of the originals beat Vince, good story there.

I think it's got real good potential. They've got the New Breed kind of mixed with the Corperation running ECW at the moment - have that build up to the Originals regaining control of ECW. People love that stuff.

Vince always surprises me, just as you think people aren't going to boo him anymore he always finds a new way for people to hate him.

[Londoner]

Ever heard the saying "cant buy a cup of coffee on potential?" Yeah they has a meaning.


No i haven't, but i do know having potential is better than having no potential. As i said, lets wait and see before we decide to predict the future.

[Better Than You]

No i haven't, but i do know having potential is better than having no potential. as i said, lets wait and see before we decide to predict the future.Whos predicting the future? Benoit carried MVP. That happend.

[Londoner]

I disagree, i think MVP held his own in that match, infact in all the matches they had he did well enough to not be carried, but you're making it sound like he'll do shit in future.

It would be better to say 'MVP upped his game for Benoit' rather than Benoit carried him.

[Better Than You]

I disagree, i think MVP held his own in that match, infact in all the matches they had he did well enough to not be carried, but you're making it sound like he'll do shit in future.He hasn't done shit in the past. He's done nothing but suck every where in the world. Until he wrestled Benoit. History dictates the future, fact.

[Londoner]

He's doen shit in the past. He's done nothing but every where in the world. Until he wrestled Benoit. History dictates the future, fact.


That's all your opinion though, i personally was entertained by him BEFORE THE BENOIT FEUD as i saw the potential there. If he does shit in future, then fair enough, no point arguing about it really, im slightly drunk right now so i dont really want to continue this.

[Better Than You]

Fair enough.

[Mr. Nerfect]

ROFL. Anti-wagon jumper becuase what? YOu all are acting like MVP has done something do deserve merit? So, in a way I guess yo're right. Either way you're either on the bandwagon or you're not. And I am not.

You see my point though. They are vehicles for MVP to good, to look like a star, somehting that he is not. They are creating a star, but just like Cena, Lashey, and others are not true stars, they're forced. They're fake. And that's the same path MVP is wlaking. The path of yet another wrestler that just inst what is advertised.

Benoit has made him look good. (And believe it or not, good wrestlers can do that.) MVP will come out of this shinning, becaused that how propoganda works, to push an idea onto your sheep, in this case, that MVP is a tlented athlete.

I'm sorry, but I think you're wrong. Like not just having your own opinion "wrong", but being blind to the facts wrong.

John Cena was a forced star. He got win after unneccesary win. MVP isn't winning matches he doesn't need to. He's not being given Championships too early. I didn't want to see MVP win the US Title, and he didn't. What they are letting MVP do is become a star on his own. They are presenting his case for being a future star, and he is doing that well. He's convincing us "sheep", after all.

I still fail to see how Benoit has been carrying MVP. Benoit is great, no doubt about it, but he's only been co-operating with MVP. He hasn't done anything too incredible. Fuck, he hasn't even done anything subtle. I don't want to say he is phoning it in, but his performances haven't been the best of his career or anything. MVP is doing the majority of the leg work in this feud, and he's doing it well.

Management seems impressed, I am impressed, most people here, except the bitter ones who don't want another name to be added to the good list, possibly because they complained about this "suddenly" good guy when he first showed up, are impressed. I guess it's OK not to be, but being in such a small minority must say something, mustn't it? Surely the world can't be wrong all the time?

MVP is not forced, and he's not being carried. To say he is just being blindly on Benoit's dick. It can work both ways. No one has said Benoit owes MVP for these matches, but saying MVP owes Benoit is just ridiculous. It takes two to tango, and really have great matches. I'd say they are both pulling their weight.

A better line of doubt in MVP's abilities to take would be "Is he just working well with Benoit because he is a fan of Benoit's?" To that, I personally don't know the answer. I've heard his DSW work was good, so that's a good sign. The guy did call his Crossface in DSW "Tribute To Benoit", though.

It seems really unprofessional, guys stepping up their game because they want to have potential classics with their opponents, but I think that is the only reason Batista vs. The Undertaker at WrestleMania was any good. Batista has gone on record saying his dream match was with The Undertaker, at WrestleMania, in Hell in a Cell. I think that is why Batista kicked it up a gear in his program with The Undertaker. It's also why I think their match tonight won't live up to Mania. Batista vs. Taker at Mania filled two of Dave's criteria; Batista vs. Taker at Backlash in Last Man Standing only fills one. LMS could be compared to HIAC, as there are no rules in either one, but I think there is less romance in this one for Dave.

The same could go for MVP when he stops working with Benoit. Sure, he could be good when he needs to be, but will he have the motivation to bring his A-game to matches with guys like Carlito, instead of guys he admires, like Chris Benoit?

[CSL]

That leg drop from 'Taker was pretty sweet.

[Londoner]

Thank you alienoid.

[Londoner]

Nice match here.

[Londoner]

Chair shot to taker, Taker counters powerbomb by throwing Batista onto chair, then hits the Tombstone, Batista gets up on count of 9.

[lort]

Yeah it's quite fun - and I can't stand Batista. Crowd are well into as well.

[Londoner]

Holy shit. lol @micheal cole saying that to. :D

[Londoner]

Oh fuck that shite. Match ends in a draw.

[CSL]

That was more like a movie stunt.

[lort]

I thought they were going to have a vacant belt then.

[Londoner]

The match should've gone on longer.

[BigDaddyCool]

Undertaker shouldn't be in last man standing matches. He sits up in any other match, yet some how he is drained of tha magik ability when it is a last man standing match?

[lort]

Oh for people who aren't watching; match was a draw. Batista speared Undertaker off the stage into a lightbox that had collapsing scaffolding and neither of them sat up.

[CSL]

:lol: @ HBK's dangly crosses.

[Better Than You]

I'm sorry, but I think you're wrong. Like not just having your own opinion "wrong", but being blind to the facts wrong.

John Cena was a forced star. He got win after unneccesary win. MVP isn't winning matches he doesn't need to. He's not being given Championships too early. I didn't want to see MVP win the US Title, and he didn't. What they are letting MVP do is become a star on his own. They are presenting his case for being a future star, and he is doing that well. He's convincing us "sheep", after all. Yeah, they would book him the same way becuase they need more superman pushes? No. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and that's what they are doing, just becuase he hasn't been maticuously handled in the exact same way doesn't mean fuck all. (And lets not forget that when Cena was in MVPs shoes (SD! mid card, Cena lost ALL the time.)

On top of that, this board LOVED Cena. Or have we all ready forgoton? Yeah, the TPWW sheep are well trained sheep, I can say that.

I still fail to see how Benoit has been carrying MVP. Benoit is great, no doubt about it, but he's only been co-operating with MVP. He hasn't done anything too incredible. Fuck, he hasn't even done anything subtle. I don't want to say he is phoning it in, but his performances haven't been the best of his career or anything. MVP is doing the majority of the leg work in this feud, and he's doing it well.So you haven't seen Benoit givng MOUNDS of offence to MVP? Basically letting him work him over for the vast majority of ALL three matches? You haven't notcied that? Have you notcied Benoit being a good second faster than MVP? Constantly having to stop and let MVP catch up? Or are you just not paying attention? Benoit has gone out of his way to get MVPs spots in, and discarding his own, "Benoit performance looks bad" because he's making MVP look good. If MVP is to be put over it has to be at the expense of Benoit. And so far Benoit has done. MVP looks like gold.

Management seems impressed, I am impressed, most people here, except the bitter ones who don't want another name to be added to the good list, possibly because they complained about this "suddenly" good guy when he first showed up, are impressed. I guess it's OK not to be, but being in such a small minority must say something, mustn't it? Surely the world can't be wrong all the time?

Cena. Lashley. Batista.

At one time that could have described any of those men.

Management likes Taker. H. Formerly Hogan.

This board has likewise made similar descisions that have panned out to be less than savory. In a sea of terrible MVP comes along, average, and looks like a star. But he isn't. He just better than shit. LETS RAVE ABOUT HIM.

MVP is not forced,Maybe and he's not being carried. To say he is just being blindly on Benoit's dick.lies or a lack of knowledge you be the judge.

It can work both ways. No one has said Benoit owes MVP for these matches, but saying MVP owes Benoit is just ridiculous. It takes two to tango, and really have great matches. I'd say they are both pulling their weight. If you think they have truely great matches you're standards are depressing. They've been better than average. Thats it. And ONE man can do that on his own. (Benoit)

Didn't say Benoit had been lackluster? What happend?

A better line of doubt in MVP's abilities to take would be "Is he just working well with Benoit because he is a fan of Benoit's?" To that, I personally don't know the answer. I've heard his DSW work was good, so that's a good sign. The guy did call his Crossface in DSW "Tribute To Benoit", though. Heard? I've seen. I've seen him before DSW. Its mediocer to bad. Yeah. (Guess what, I actually follow indy wrestling.)

The same could go for MVP when he stops working with Benoit. Sure, he could be good when he needs to be, but will he have the motiviation to bring his A-game to matches with guys like Carlito, instead of guys he admires, like Chris Benoit?If his A-game is getting his lazy ass carried like he has though this fued then I'll say yeah, I'm sure he'll give it a shot.

[Londoner]

HBK's entrance is so good when you're fucked. As is Orton's.

[BigDaddyCool]

OMG, Edge just went Kliq!!!!!

[Londoner]

As is Cena's, weird. I usually don't give a fuck for his entrance.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Isn't this the first time we've seen Edge actually wrestle in ages?

And I dunno if it's just me but Orton looks mad skinny.</font>

[Londoner]

Think is the first time Edge has wrestled since money in the bank where he got injured, ironically.

[CSL]

<font color=white>Useless Jim Ross fact #2835

"This the first WWE championship fatal four way in Backlash history"</font>

[CSL]

Think is the first time Edge has wrestled since money in the bank where he got injured, ironically.

<font color=white>He was injured going into MITB, hence the Jeff spot to get him out of the way.</font>

[CSL]

<font color=white>Digging Edge's tights.</font>

[Skippord]

Little gay there CSL

[Londoner]

<font color=white>He was injured going into MITB, hence the Jeff spot to get him out of the way.</font>


Oh right, that explains it, makes it a bit stupid to have him in the MITB then rather than someone like Carlito.

[Londoner]

Edge/orton double teaming HBK. Double boston crab.

[CSL]

Little gay there CSL

<font color=white>There is nothing wrong with appreciating good spandex!

:shifty: </font>

[Londoner]

HBK attempts to piveldrive Orton through table, Edge hits HBK with chair, Orton appreciates it then gets chair shot from edge, Cena STFU on edge, fuck it.

Edit: Phew. Edge gets ropes. Cena STFU on orton...argh, fuck off superCena.

[CSL]

He made the ropesssss.

[CSL]

Now Orton.

[CSL]

This is pretty great.

[Londoner]

Holy shit.

[Londoner]

What an RKO on HBK.

[lort]

Cena kicks out of the Edgecution :(

[Londoner]

Oh fuck fuck fuck off. Fucking shite.

[lort]

Oh Christ that was an annoying ending.

[Xero]

Don't tell me Cena won. :(

[BigDaddyCool]

Is Orton on his period?

[CSL]

The build up to the ending was fucking great. Just sucks Cena won.

[Impact!]

I would mark the fuck out for Vince vs. RVD in an Extreme Rules Match, where the Originals just beat the shit out of Vince, and RVD then gets the pin and wins back the belt.

If Vince was willing to get his ass kicked good by the them, and The Undertaker was willing to stop being a pussy bitch because he doesn't like The Sandman, it would get RVD, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman over as legitimate WWE Superstars (moreso).
:?:

[Londoner]

Don't tell me Cena won. :(


HBK superkicked cena, cena fell on edge and got the 3.

[lort]

Edge Speared Orton.
Cena FU'ed Edge.
Michaels Superkicked Cena.
Cena fell onto Orton and the ref counted 3.

:/

[Xero]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/4622410

So what, did the entrance setup collapse on them?

[Volchok]

Kidding right?

[RP]

Ok now WWE is basically acknowledging that Cena's title reign is a joke.

[Xero]

HBK superkicked cena, cena fell on edge and got the 3.
So they basically did the Orton/Michaels (?) ending from a few weeks ago again?

[Londoner]

So they basically did the Orton/Michaels (?) ending from a few weeks ago again?

Sort of.

[Corndad]

So how is this gonna be scored for tipsters lol

[Volchok]

Common with the time left, Kennedy should beat Cena... :(

[Londoner]

I did pretty shite in tipsters.

[Volchok]

FUCK CENA!

[Juan]

I don't know what I'm more sick of... Cena winning, his entrance music or that ugly ass spinner belt.

[Volchok]

:(

[Volchok]

Someone please wake me from this nightmare.

[Volchok]

BTW is the PPV actually over now?

[Londoner]

Yes, it is.*listens to gnr live on youtube instead*

[Volchok]

Damnit :(

[Londoner]

It was a good PPV though, but WWE desperately need a heel champion, tonight would've been perfect.

[Jordan]

Meltzer gave the show a great review... what did you ppv subscribers think?

[CSL]

Meltzer gave the show a great review... what did you ppv subscribers think?

'Twas a strong showing. No poor matches. 'Taker/Batista and the main event were fun. </font>

[BigDaddyCool]

Meltzer gave the show a great review... what did you ppv subscribers think?

I though the ppv sucked. One thing happened that I wanted, and that was Taker retained his title. But he did it in the worst way possible. Everything else sucked. Murdoch and Cade lost, MVP lost, Cena won, Umaga isn't ECW champion and I honestly don't care one way or another about Melina and Micke (though it was a good match).

[Juan]

In all honestly, it was great PPV, from top to bottom. The main even could've been a smudge bit better, for obvious reasons.

[BigDaddyCool]

'Twas a strong showing. No poor matches. 'Taker/Batista and the main event were fun. </font>

The main event wasn't fun, Micheals in not champion.

[BigDaddyCool]

In all honestly, it was great PPV, from top to bottom. The main even could've been a smudge bit better, for obvious reasons.

No, you are wrong as well.

[BigDaddyCool]

Further more, why even bring out Taz and Styles to announce one match?

[Londoner]

The main event wasn't fun, Micheals in not champion.


The end result doesn't always matter. The fact that Cena winning pisses me off actually entertains me more than seeing HBK winning i think.

[Jordan]

I think I got everything wrong in tipsters lol...

[BigDaddyCool]

The end result doesn't always matter. The fact that Cena winning pisses me off actually entertains me more than seeing HBK winning i think.

No, you are wrong. The end result does matter.

[Londoner]

Im only wrong in YOUR opinion. I'm not to bothered really, but i am a bit drunk so that's probably why.

[BigDaddyCool]

Im only wrong in YOUR opinion. I'm not to bothered really, but i am a bit drunk so that's probably why.

My opinion is law. :mad:

[Juan]

No, you are wrong as well.

I also wanted HBK to win...

[BigDaddyCool]

I wanted HBK to win also...

Good, you just became less wrong.

[wwe2222]

what a worthless ppv

I cant believe Cena won again...I feel its leading up to one more match between HBK and Cena where Cena will win and HBK will shake his hand finally and that will be it.

:mad:

[Jordan]

Summerslam HBK v.s Cena III

[Jordan]

It'd probably be Hell in a Cell, which I would be all for, they work amazing together. I'd pay to see it, they'd have to top their Raw match and Wrestlemania match, it would be pretty sweet if they did.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Michaels should destroy Cena... like.. literally destroy Cena and Summerslam. Total squash match. That is the only way WWE can rectify this.

UNFORGIVEABLE

[Shaggy]

Im hoping for Cena to lose the belt at Vengeance....so I can be there in person to have a heart attack with happiness...

[RGWhat316]

I'd say a solid ppv, despite Cena winning again and the atrocity of Vince winning the ECW title and showing off in front of the originals. So much for my predictions of the US and Women's title changing.

[Mercury Bullet]

I actually watched this PPV, and all-in-all I found it okay. A solid C-, would have been C+/B- had Vince not won the ECW Belt and Cena not retained via getting KO'd and falling on top of Orton. Batista-Taker was about as good of a match as Batista can put on, which isn't saying much, but at least it reached its potential. All the "explosions" after that spot seemed a little WSX-ish.

Anyway, overall my grade is C- for Backlash.

[Dave Youell]

I woke up for a feed (for the baby) with 10 mins to go and the finish to the 4 ways looked awesome.

Vince as ECW sounds funny to me, hopefully this means one of the originals will feud for the title, I'd like to say Van Dam, but I heard he's turned down a new contract.

The idea of Sandman caning Vince however pleases me greatly

[wwe2222]

I liked the Undertaker-Batista match again surprisingly...and I was happy to see Batista really selling that leg injury the whole match :y:

[Londoner]

The idea of Sandman caning Vince however pleases me greatly
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Didn't even think of that, and yes the finishes were pretty good, some good 'wtf' moments there.

As for what I would give this PPV in terms of grades, I would say B- tbh.

[BigDaddyCool]

I would rate it hmmmmmmmmmm, an D. It would have been a C if 'Taker actaully beat Bats instead of both going down for a 10 count. Also, the ending to the 10 count didn't make any since. Why would Bats use a spear to take out 'Taker which would also send Bat's flying off the stage. At that point Bats should have been working smarter and just trying to knock taker off the stage, and leaving himself on the stage. He could win the title if they are both knocked out. 'Taker should have been the one to knock them both of the stage, if they were both counted out (which they were) he would have still been Champion (which he is). Looking at it that way, that match drops to a C+ from a solid B.

Though the women's match was pretty decent. Me and my girlfriend were laughing at Melina's facial expressions when she was choking out Mikie from the top rope. The whole "I'm sorry Mr. Refferee, sir, I didn't know I was doing anything wrong" face was priceless, then right back to choking out Mikie. That match was probably the best of the night, I would get it an A-, simply because I didn't know about the build up, plus it gives them room for improvement. Beniot v MVP was a B+, it would have been an A if Power Ranger won.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'd give the whole show a B...pretty solid performance by most, despite quite a few dull stretches, all in all one of the best Backlash PPV's I've watched in it's 9 year history if not possibly THE best one to date...but that's just IMHO.

TBH...

[Londoner]

I would say its the best backlash since the one in 2000, Backlash has been treated like shit but this had a different feel to it, probably cause they're using both rosters now. That's why it felt more 'solid'.