The Black Album

[The Naitch]

Every song is good. Best produced album in a long time.

Thoughts?

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Yeah. Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven, Through the Never, Sad But True... great album.

[Kane Knight]

Best produced album in a long time?

[Kris P Lettus]

Truthfully, I think the production value on Phernology and Love Below were untouchable in recent memory.. Good album, but I've always been a Jay-Z fan so..

:-\..

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah. Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven, Through the Never, Sad But True... great album.

haha

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Wait are we talking about a great album or an abomination released over 10 years later? :?:

[Kris P Lettus]

Wait are we talking about a great album or an abomination released over 10 years later? :?:

Let me guess, you're one of those "RAP SUCKS!!1!" guys..

:nono:

It's funny, in all my years of being a music fan I've never heard a Hip Hop fan blindly talk shit about "rock".. With vice versa, you hear it often..

Weird..

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>The black album is overproduced garbage. It has a few good songs [Through The Never is great], but the vocals suck, and the overall feel of the album was commercial.</font>

[Kane Knight]

The album's not really overproduced.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>For a thrash metal band it is.</font>

[Kane Knight]

If a thrash metal band is produced at all, it's called a miracle.

don't worry, they went back to their roots with ST Anger.

[Kane Knight]

:)

[DaveWadding]

Jay-Z's Black Album rules.

[Cactus Sid]

Let me guess, you're one of those "RAP SUCKS!!1!" guys..

:nono:

It's funny, in all my years of being a music fan I've never heard a Hip Hop fan blindly talk shit about "rock".. With vice versa, you hear it often..

Weird..

You've never read Teletext on a the BBC then, some guy was saying that Rap takes a certain kind of mastery, where as Rock music is talentless, before saying that guitar's "practically play themselves"

[Kane Knight]

Wait are we talking about a great album or an abomination released over 10 years later? :?:

What's the great album written ten years before the Black Album? :?:

[Krow]

Bob Rock should be shot.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Kill 'Em All was 83...</font>

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>The best thrash metal album production-wise is Testament's "The Legacy".</font>

[Kane Knight]

<font color=969696>Kill 'Em All was 83...</font>

Sorry, thought we were talking great albums.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>As long as we're in a Metallica thread, you're going to be disappointed.</font>

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Kill 'Em All was a good album, though.</font>

[Kane Knight]

<font color=969696>As long as we're in a Metallica thread, you're going to be disappointed.</font>

...Yeah, as nothing involving Ulrich can actually be be considered great.

[Krow]

...Yeah, as nothing involving Ulrich can actually be be considered great.

R U INSAN? LARZ ROOLZ FAGIT!

I have to go with asphyXy, though. Pre-Justice Metallica was good.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Master of Puppets is overrated garbage. Ride the Lightning was the beginning of their downfall. Justice wasn't even a thrash album, but it does have its moments [Shortest Straw].</font>

[Kane Knight]

You know what's a really overproduced album?

Frank Black--Dog in the sand.

Live to 4-track. :roll:

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger is overproduced. This is the equipment used to record Transilvanian Hunger:

Random four piece studio drumset
A guitar
A bass
One microphone [vocals and drums]
Cheap four track pocket studio</font>

[Silent]

Metallica probably put more work in producing St. Anger then every other album they have made. I don't think it's possible to sound that shitty after playing music for that long.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Oh, right. St. Anger exists. Haha.</font>

[Kane Knight]

Metallica probably put more work in producing St. Anger then every other album they have made. I don't think it's possible to sound that shitty after playing music for that long.

Yeah, I was just taking a shot because it's funny as Hell that something that was that "overproduced" could possibly sound that shitty.

Usually, when you overproduce something, you at least improve the sound...Even if the m,usic suffers as a result.

[Smitty]

If a thrash metal band is produced at all, it's called a miracle.

don't worry, they went back to their roots with ST Anger.

"These songs are long, and there are fast parts, so that automatically means that they're good"- St. Anger parody :y:

[Krow]

<font color=969696>Master of Puppets is overrated garbage. Ride the Lightning was the beginning of their downfall. Justice wasn't even a thrash album, but it does have its moments [Shortest Straw].</font>

Yea, verily, thou hast forgot thy Chapter and Verse, O Lord. :|

[TheNamelessOne]

You've never read Teletext on a the BBC then, some guy was saying that Rap takes a certain kind of mastery, where as Rock music is talentless, before saying that guitar's "practically play themselves"

:D I saw that, it was by some guy called "G-Units Biggest Fan" or something. Anyway, that teletext music service pretty much sucks ass, the Channel 4 one is much better (p350). I have no idea what the people are talking about on their letters page, but at least its more intelligent.

[The Mask]

The black album is the most overrated album ever. Bob Rock needs to die.

[Downunder]

The black album is the most overrated album ever. Bob Rock needs to die.

werd

[Kane Knight]

"These songs are long, and there are fast parts, so that automatically means that they're good"- St. Anger parody :y:

That the one where the "Snare" drum is a folding chair?

I don't remember the lyrics, but that was funny as shit.

[Kane Knight]

You've never read Teletext on a the BBC then, some guy was saying that Rap takes a certain kind of mastery, where as Rock music is talentless, before saying that guitar's "practically play themselves"

:lol: The closest he's prolly ever come to a guitar is sampling one...

I'm not gonna say that rap is easy to do, but I've produced beats and played instuments, and the latter is MUCH harder.

Having been in rock bands since I was 12, and having lived through the Tupac/MTV-craze that made rap part of pop culture, I can easily say that a TON of rap fan trash rock.

[Kane Knight]

The black album is the most overrated album ever. Bob Rock needs to die.

Oh, come on...MOST overrated?

There's gotta be more overrated albums...

...Though I can't think of one...

[da_king]

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the black album is the fifth best metalica album, or the third worst, whichever.

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[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>1 - Kill 'Em All
2 - Ride The Lightning
3 - And Justice For All
The rest</font>

[Shaggy]

I have been a big Metallica fan for a long time. Even though now there music isnt the same as it used to be I still stick with them. Black Album was the beginning of them getting a little weak. Dont get me wrong it was a good album. I loved it but they have had better. Im a big fan of Kill em All myself. The only thing that makes the Black Album seem so great to most people is that no one really new Metallica untill they put out the black album. when this one came out they were getting fans from everywhere. The one thing that makes me mad about the album though is that most fans that loved this CD seem to think it was Metallica's first CD.

[Bad Company]

As a huge metallica fan I really can't fault any of their albums. They all have at least a few good songs on them.

[da_king]

<font color=969696>1 - Kill 'Em All
2 - Ride The Lightning
3 - And Justice For All
The rest</font>
<font color="#ccffcc">

i would've ranked puppets ahead of justice but that's just me. actually i'd rate the albums in the order they came out with kill em all being first and decreasing in order from there. with the black album, you can obviously tell the focus was shifting towards mainstream acceptance just by the fact they had only one video to show for their previous four albums to having released one every other song or so for the black album.

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[ct2k]

It's ok, Sad But True, Unforgiven, Nothing Else Matters, Of Wolf and Man.

Meh its mediocre compared to the first 4.

I'd probably rate them:

1) Kill em All
2) Ride the Lightning
3) Master of Puppers
4) And Justice For All...
5) Black album

after that i don't care enough

[Kane Knight]

Don't blame Bob Rock...Blame TSR...

The Unforgiven was written at a Ren Fair, as the band professed their loathing for the reaction new gamers had to THAC0 rules.

[el fregadero]

<font color=teal>I think it is pretty decent.</font>

[Kane Knight]

3) Master of Puppers


Master of Puppies?

(&)(&)

[Sin Harvest]

The Black Album is massively over-rated, sure The Unforgiven, Wherever I May Roam and Nothing Else Matters are great songs, but the rest are either dull (Holier Than Thou, Through The Never), over-rated (Enter Sandman) or shit (Sad But True, my most hated Metallica song).

I'll take Ride The Lightning over that any day.

[asphyXy]

<font color=969696>Through The Never is awesome.</font>

[StrongMad]

if you ask me, that was the last good metallica album, after that it all went down hill. of course that is just my opinion.