ECW Thread (1-15-07): Extreme Cutting Edge

[KingofOldSchool]

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Preview:Strike two
January 15, 2008


World Heavyweight Champion Edge will host a special edition of The Cutting Edge with ECW Champion CM Punk as his guest. What does the Ultimate Opportunist have in store for the Straightedge Superstar and those in the Land of the Extreme?

Last Tuesday, Jimmy Wang Yang & Shannon Moore lost the 15 Minutes of Fame Tag Team Championship Match to The Miz & John Morrison. The WWE Tag Team Champions retain their gold, but is this the last they’ll see of Yang & Moore?

Also last week, the rivalry between Kelly Kelly and Layla was interrupted when newcomer Lena Yada entered herself into the Diva Dance Off. Much to the shock of Kelly and Layla, Lena declared herself the winner. What does this 2007 Diva Search contestant have in store for the Divas of ECW?

Find out the answers to all of these questions and more on the next ECW on Sci Fi, Tuesday at 10/9 CT. Also, be sure to catch ECW in its entirety every week on WWE.com, available from Wednesday to the following Monday afternoon.

[KingofOldSchool]

Damn Inno copying me. :mad:

[KingofOldSchool]

I predict Colin Delaney vs. Mini Kane tonight.


Or Khali. :shifty:

[KingofOldSchool]

I wanna see Moore Wang.

[Innovator]

Ok lets make yours the legit one

[Innovator]

NOT ENOUGH BALLYHOO FOR ECW

[KingofOldSchool]

So when was the last time Estrada has actually been on camera?

[Innovator]

CUTTING EDGE BABYYYYYYYYY

[Innovator]

BALLYHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

PYRO, NO BALLYHOO!

[Innovator]

Edge deserves it all

[KingofOldSchool]

BALLYHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needs more balloons.

[KingofOldSchool]

Edge deserves it all

He does, but JBL stole all of the balloons.

[Innovator]

JBL already used up all the ballyhoo RAW had for 2008

[KingofOldSchool]

lol @ the fat kid in the Rey mask

[SammyG]

This is the first time I have watched ECW in over 1 month. Hope this is good. Whoa, Edge is feuding with Rey now? Why?

[KingofOldSchool]

I hope Edge squashes Rey.

[Innovator]

We already have the Gory Special, why not rename the triple suplexes the Eddie Special?

[KingofOldSchool]

This is the first time I have watched ECW in over 1 month. Hope this is good. Whoa, Edge is feuding with Rey now? Why?

They gotta save Taker for Mania.

[Savio]

Rey can't do it

[KingofOldSchool]

We already have the Gory Special, why not rename the triple suplexes the Eddie Special?

Because Eddie's in HEEEELLLL

[Innovator]

I'd be down for an Edge/Punk feud

[SammyG]

Punk's theme is sweet. Also, he needs to turn heel, IMO

[Innovator]

PUNK WITH A MIC WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[SammyG]

Styles' commentary sounds so generic and monotonous, like the Smackdown vs Raw game

[KingofOldSchool]

I'd be down for an Edge/Punk feud

Over whose hair can grow longer or who can get the most tattoos?

[KingofOldSchool]

Good point by Edge.

[Innovator]

Punk's theme is sweet. Also, he needs to turn heel, IMO
Thats what he's best at. He'd at least get a program and not just the same match over and over again

[KingofOldSchool]

Respecting people isn't being better than them. :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don't know if they're teasing anything, but I'd care a lot more about Edge vs. CM Punk in a unifcation match at WrestleMania than any of that Edge/Taker crap. Throw in Jeff Hardy and just put all the titles together.

[KingofOldSchool]

OH SNAP!

[SammyG]

Edge, beat the shit out of him.

[KingofOldSchool]

Come on Punk claiming ECW to be "your show" is like claiming to be King of a 1 bedroom apartment.

[SammyG]

Is Chavo a heel? Oh ok, he is nevermind.

[Innovator]

Punk's show

[Mr. Nerfect]

Styles' commentary sounds so generic and monotonous, like the Smackdown vs Raw game

He's obvious depressed and hates his job, but if you listen to him, he actually does a better job than any other play-by-play man in the WWE. He actually references past rivalries, and stuff from more than the immediate arc back. There's still a little of the old Joey that lives on.

[SammyG]

k, where's rey.

[Innovator]

k, where's rey.
No this is ECW, where Punk gets the shit kicked out of him most of the time

[KingofOldSchool]

Gee lemme guess, Chavo wins?

[McLegend]

Come on Punk claiming ECW to be "your show" is like claiming to be King of a 1 bedroom apartment.

I think I would rather be King of the 1 bedroom apartment

[KingofOldSchool]

Isn't that how the Jericho/JBL feud started?

[Innovator]

Well that is Punk's seasonal mic time

[Mr. Nerfect]

No clue what is going on, but I'm hoping that Edge costs CM Punk the match to Chavo tonight, and that leads to Edge vs. Punk at WrestleMania. OK, I'm dreaming the second part.

[Mr. Nerfect]

We'll probably see Edge & Chavo vs. Rey & Punk heading into the Rumble on SmackDown!, though.

[SammyG]

Yo, this is worse than Raw

[SammyG]

What the fuck wasn't John Morrison a maineventer? Why is he on the first match of the show?? Tag team champ? With who?

[SammyG]

LOL you have GOT to be kidding me. The Miz is rockin' gold?!

[Innovator]

I don't mind the Miz anymore

[KingofOldSchool]

It's Morrison and Poochie.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What the fuck wasn't John Morrison a maineventer? Why is he on the first match of the show?? Tag team champ? With who?

With The Miz, and they've been having the best matches of WWE TV weekly with Moore Wang (love that name, KoOS).

[Innovator]

Joblanders with new music!

[SammyG]

Wow, I need to pay attention a bit more. I thought the Highlanders were on Smackdown. OH WAIT, they show up on both shows now. ok.

[KingofOldSchool]

THE HIGHLANDERS TURNED FACE!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't mind the Miz anymore

He's nowhere near as bad as anyone makes out. A damn solid talent.

[KingofOldSchool]

When did they turn face?

[Innovator]

I mean Miz is getting better inthe ring, and is a decent promo

[Innovator]

When did they turn face?
About 3 minutes ago

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wow, I heard that The Highlanders were moving brands a while back, and it only took a few months and a heel turn for the WWE to actually do it.

I'll be mega-pissed if Rory & Robbie win the titles before Yang & Moore, though. All tag teams also need to be on SmackDown!/ECW from now on. Move The Redneck Wrecking Crew and Londrick (the only other real teams left). I don't count Holly & Rhodes, because as soon as they lose the belts, they are done, I bet.

[KingofOldSchool]

So what happened to Extreme Biscuits and Gravy? Did they land in the Island of Misfit Tag Teams?

[Mr. Nerfect]

When did they turn face?

Like honestly just then. For no reason at all.

[Innovator]

Stereo poses, doesn't beat a tag team double pose, like HBK and Nash

[KingofOldSchool]

Oh what a surprise.

[Innovator]

Cmon debut Kofi already!

[Innovator]

about time he debuts

[Mr. Nerfect]

People don't seem too interesting in Kofi, but he is a solid talent. Should be fun when he debuts.

The Highlanders are also a damn fine team, ability-wise. They just have a shitty gimmick. Are they still playing the Scottish Bushwhackers?

[SammyG]

ROOFFLLLL KOFI KINGSTON. Cooommeee onnnnnn.

Anyway, Nitro reminds me of Melina EXACTLY, when he does that little dance thingy followed by him raising his arm in the air.

[KingofOldSchool]

Kofi should've saved Punk from that beatdown.

But that would = logic

[KingofOldSchool]

God that movie trailer SUCKS.

[Innovator]

Just got to 14k, I want to thank everyone who spams with me for getting me here

[KingofOldSchool]

Ah yes the heel turn no one cared about.

[SammyG]

Jesus Christ Kelly is fucking hot as hell.

[SammyG]

I see she is rockin' the orange face look today.

[KingofOldSchool]

Kelly should've won?

Won what?

An unemployment check?

[Innovator]

AHAHAHHA, someone paid to see Mark Henry

[SammyG]

lol @ sign "I still paid to see Mark Henry"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kofi should've saved Punk from that beatdown.

But that would = logic

It really bothers me that main event guys seem to live in their own world. If I were Kofi Kingston, and I saw the ECW Champion getting beaten down, I'd sure as hell run out and get some attention for myself by helping him out. It's a great way to debut. Instead he sits humbly in the back and waits for his match.

No wonder guys don't get over these days.

It was refreshing when Paul London & Brian Kendrick saved Triple H from a beat-down recently, but then of course they had to get Pedigree'd, because that made perfect sense.

[Innovator]

Man I can't wait to see Kelly in HD

[SammyG]

The day Kelly poses for playboy is the day I... I dunno.

[SammyG]

Who the hell is that jobber in the ring.

[Innovator]

Colin Delaney beatdown time!

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL Colin

[KingofOldSchool]

They are going to bring out Umaga.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kelly should've won?

Won what?

An unemployment check?

Honestly, did you see her dancing last week? It consisted of taking off her top while standing on the second rope, and then grinding a few times near the ropes. Horrible dancer.

[KingofOldSchool]

Or Khali.

[Innovator]

Tazz in pink doesn't work, Orange and Black

[Innovator]

Kane

[SammyG]

lol awesome

[KingofOldSchool]

I was right earlier, well half right.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Khali would have been my guess. Who is it?

[SammyG]

is Kane a heel in ECW?

[Innovator]

I just hope WWE remembers that Mikey started to win some matches

[KingofOldSchool]

is Kane a heel in ECW?

No, he just likes beating people up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nah, my guess is Kane is just kicking Colin's ass because he's a baaaaaaaad motherfucker.

[Innovator]

AHAHHA, he held him up for the chokeslam for a while

[SammyG]

Listening to Paramore while watching this match was pretty funny, for some reason. The second Kane grasped his throat, the song went "BUT I GOT HIM WHERE I WANT HIM NOWWWW"

Dunno.

[KingofOldSchool]

Nah, my guess is Kane is just kicking Colin's ass because he's a baaaaaaaad motherfucker.

My name's Kane, my pleasure is other people's pain.

[Innovator]

Hey Estrada, good to see you on your show

[SammyG]

Yah by the way that is a fucking RIDICULOUS SWANTOP

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm hoping that one day, Tazz directs Colin's attention to the titantron, and then says his opponent is going to be...Tazz! And then Tazz puts him in the Tazzmission and gets the tap out. The following week Colin and Tazz are in the ring, and Colin loses it and cuts a promo saying he may be inexperienced, and he may lose all his matches, but he keeps coming back because he's serious about being a WWE Superstar, and cuts an emotional promo about how one day Tazz will be calling him a Superstar, for one reason or another.

Oh, and they should bring in his "twin brother" to help him win matches.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm looking forward to Punk vs. Chavo at the Rumble.

[Innovator]

I actually really want to see Jeff vs. Borton now

[Innovator]

And WWE better be smart and put it on Jeff

[Innovator]

STEAMBOAT APPEARANCE!!!!!

[Innovator]

Shelton vs. Nunzio

[KingofOldSchool]

lol Nunzio

[KingofOldSchool]

And WWE better be smart and put it on Jeff

:rofl:

[Innovator]

Why not capitalize on the hottest thing WWE has done since Cena roided out?

[KingofOldSchool]

So with all of these mining references, is Shelton now a gold miner? Is he going to start doing promos from gold mines with his pick ax?

[Innovator]

Botched finisher there

[SammyG]

LOL AINT NO STOPPIN ME NO

[KingofOldSchool]

Why not capitalize on the hottest thing WWE has done since Cena roided out?

Because Trips needs belty back and they need Orton looking strong. All they are doing is making Hardy look God-like so when Orton beats him, it makes Orton look unbeatable. That is until Mania when Trips gets his heat back.

[SammyG]

So, I assume Edge is gonna interfere, costing Punk the match, and Chavo wins, right?

[KingofOldSchool]

No tape on the shoulder??? That's shocking.

[KingofOldSchool]

Should Punk pin Edge clean in a non-title match?

[KingofOldSchool]

omg that image looks like Jericho!

[Innovator]

Taped ribs would heal that shoulder right up

[Jura]

I'm smelling a Punk/Rey vs Chavo/Edge tag match in the future.

[KingofOldSchool]

Taped ribs would heal that shoulder right up

Next week...Big Daddy V injures Punk's ribs.

[KingofOldSchool]

Punk loses by countout.

[Innovator]

Edge is great :lol:

[PorkSoda]

Did Kofi debut yet?

I used to wrestle with him :cool:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm going to say it again: Edge vs. Punk at WrestleMania > Edge vs. Taker.

Also, I would mark out for Shelton carrying a pick with him to the ring, dressed as a prospector.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Did Kofi debut yet?

I used to wrestle with him :cool:

Next week, man. :y:

[RGWhat316]

LOL@Edge after he laid out Punk with the belt. "He's such a great competitor. He should just get right back up and finish the match."

[Mr. Pierre]

Did Tazz mention that Punk vs. Chavo for the title will (most likely) be next week on ECW? Weird.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Did Tazz mention that Punk vs. Chavo for the title will (most likely) be next week on ECW? Weird.

If that's how it goes, I'd actually half-expect Chavo to win the ECW Title, with Edge's help, and Punk to go on to win the Rumble and challenge Edge in the SmackDown! main event at WrestleMania.

[Mr. Pierre]

From WWE.com

Chavo Guerrero finally earned his chance at an ECW Title Match this week when he beat CM Punk. He'll face CM Punk for the ECW Championship next week on ECW on Sci Fi.

- So now I think Punk has a chance of losing the ECW title like Noid said. Then Edge, Vickie, Chavo can form a stable going into the Rumble, and of course Punk heads to the Rumble match itself. I wouldn't be surprised though if Punk loses it next week, wins the belt back at No Way Out, and then defends against Shelton at Mania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

From WWE.com

Chavo Guerrero finally earned his chance at an ECW Title Match this week when he beat CM Punk. He'll face CM Punk for the ECW Championship next week on ECW on Sci Fi.

- So now I think Punk has a chance of losing the ECW title like Noid said. Then Edge, Vickie, Chavo can form a stable going into the Rumble, and of course Punk heads to the Rumble match itself. I wouldn't be surprised though if Punk loses it next week, wins the belt back at No Way Out, and then defends against Shelton at Mania.

Hmm, it's weird shit. I think the most likely outcome is that CM Punk loses to CG via disqualification (probably some Chavo Guerrero antics, or Punk fending off Ryder & Hawkins and getting carried away and taking out Chavo with a steel chair, or something), and they mirror the Chavo losses against Punk's losses. Chavo loses by countout, Chavo loses by DQ, Punk loses by countout, Punk loses by DQ, leading to a "No Countouts, No Disqualification Match" at the Rumble. Maybe they'll make it "Extreme Rules", Ladder Match or even I Quit?

The next most likely scenario, in my opinion, is that Big Daddy V, who has not been added to the Rumble Match yet, attacks CM Punk after he successfully retains the ECW Title, and we get a match between Punk and V at the Rumble. Actually, that might be even more likely than Punk vs. Chavo where there must be a clear winner.

The third option, and my personal favourite, although not very likely, is that Vickie Guerrero's stable does help Chavo win the ECW Title, and we get Punk winning the Rumble (with Vickie's goons taking out Batista & Taker from the match), and then challenging Edge. This would probably lead to Punk winning his rematch against Chavo at No Way Out, and then the titles being unified at WrestleMania (seeing as they have the talent exchange going between ECW and SmackDown!, they might decide that one World Champion is enough).

[Mr. Pierre]

I like options #1 and #3, but I just can't see Taker vs. Edge not happening at Mania. The seeds were planted all the way back in May.

I think an Extreme Rules defense for Punk is way overdue, and now would make the most sense with some nice build, since Punk and Chavo haven't had a pinfall finish yet. So I can definitely see that as a possibility, and I really like it.

To be honest though, Edge/Punk would be great, but being a huge Taker mark, and with the amount of build it's been given (and will potentially get) I wanna see Edge/Taker happen.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like options #1 and #3, but I just can't see Taker vs. Edge not happening at Mania. The seeds were planted all the way back in May.

I think an Extreme Rules defense for Punk is way overdue, and now would make the most sense with some nice build, since Punk and Chavo haven't had a pinfall finish yet. So I can definitely see that as a possibility, and I really like it.

To be honest though, Edge/Punk would be great, but being a huge Taker mark, and with the amount of build it's been given (and will potentially get) I wanna see Edge/Taker happen.

I definitely think Edge/Taker will happen, but I'm not as big an advocate for it as you. The build has been going for a while, but the way it has been developing on SmackDown!: It feels like the feud could be blown off at No Way Out in a Triple Threat with Batista.

The only reason I don't think it would happen, is if Taker gets too banged up. I read a house show report where he apparently looked really banged up after the match. If Vince does not feel like he can put the belt back on Taker safely, even with all Taker's pull, I think it would be decided to either have him sit Mania out, or just beat Matt Striker, Big Daddy V and/or Mark Henry in a squash, and go 16-0.

[Heros Welcome]

The third option, and my personal favourite, although not very likely, is that Vickie Guerrero's stable does help Chavo win the ECW Title, and we get Punk winning the Rumble (with Vickie's goons taking out Batista & Taker from the match), and then challenging Edge. This would probably lead to Punk winning his rematch against Chavo at No Way Out, and then the titles being unified at WrestleMania (seeing as they have the talent exchange going between ECW and SmackDown!, they might decide that one World Champion is enough).

I can't even explain how badly I would mark out if that did in fact happen. Though it is a pipe dream, its still nice to be seen written. But I think the idea of Punk/Chavo in a NODQ/No Count outs match seems to be a very good guess at what will probably happen. I would love to see an extreme rules match, but this is ECW, I don't even think they know what an extreme rules match is (writers that is)

[Mr. Pierre]

If Punk does indeed defend the Championship at the Rumble and loses it to Chavo, WWE would need (or should) explain how Punk got into the Rumble just minutes after losing his title.

I think on ECW, Dreamer should qualify for the Rumble.

Then, after Punk's match at the PPV, there's a segment where Punk's sitting in the locker room disgusted with himself, and Dreamer sits next to him and says "Go get your gold back. You deserve it more than I do." and Dreamer hands his number over to Punk.

I think it would be a nice "passing of the torch" moment for Punk and Dreamer, and after a 40+ minute performance in the Rumble, it'll put Punk over pretty nicely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's not very likely, that's true, but given an emergency, the WWE might just be testing the waters for something like that. Jeff Hardy came out of nowhere, and has been a huge success for the WWE, and if there's one thing that's been understated since the beginning of the roster split, it's that the WWE likes to repeat ideas on different brands very close to one another.

CM Punk is considered by Vince McMahon to be a future star, JBL evidently likes him, and there have been some suggestions that Triple H & Shawn Michaels don't mind him. CM Punk getting a second Mania main event placing would not completely shock me. It's unlikely, but not impossible-unlikely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Punk does indeed defend the Championship at the Rumble and loses it to Chavo, WWE would need (or should) explain how Punk got into the Rumble just minutes after losing his title.

I think on ECW, Dreamer should qualify for the Rumble.

Then, after the Punk's match at the PPV, there's a segment where Punk's sitting in the locker room disgusted with himself, and Dreamer sits next to him and says "Go get your gold back. You deserve it more than I do." and Dreamer hands his number over to Punk.

I think it would be a nice "passing of the torch" moment for Punk and Dreamer, and after a 40+ minute performance in the Rumble, it'll put Punk over pretty nicely.

I think if they did, for whatever reason possesses them to do it, go with Punk as the Rumble Winner, I think it would be intended as a shocker. An "under the radar" type thing. As I said, I can see the WWE trying to replicate Jeff Hardy's success with the Cinderella story no one expects.

I'm not sure if there are any house shows scheduled after ECW next week, before the Royal Rumble, but if there are, I'd expect CM Punk to qualify there. Or he can wrestle a qualifying match on SmackDown!.

[KingofOldSchool]

As much as I love Punk, being on ECW constantly for his whole WWE tenure doesn't put him in a position for such a high profile match at Wrestlemania.

At most this will lead to Punk/Mysterio vs. Chavo/Edge at No Way Out.

[Destor]

Honestly I think a high profile match is just what the brand needs. I think Punk should loose any high profile inter-brand match. But only after putting on an epic match. It could really ellivate the brand.

[Destor]

But I agree with you