Did you know who Mayweather was before his involvement in wrestling?

[Xero]

Let's settle it.

[Londoner]

Yes.

[Afterlife]

The more I hear the name, the more it seems familiar. But I never paid attention to boxing; I prefer enjoying my time.

[Erebus]

I watch SportsCenter every morning so yeah, I knew who he was.

[Kane Knight]

I knew the name, but not really who he was.

[BigDaddyCool]

I probably heard the name before. But he seems to be a dumb nigger raised on rap. Not that all black people are niggers, just the ones that act like it.

[redoneja]

I knew who he was and, although I'm not a fan of boxing, have seen him fight a couple times.

[Rammsteinmad]

Nope.

[Stickman]

I knew he was a boxer in a lighter than heavyweight weight class but that's about it. I really find boxing boring.

[BigDaddyCool]

How is he the best fighter in the world? Can he truely back up this claim? Is he even the best boxer in the world? Has he faced world class fighter from other disciplines or competed in MMA and won?

[SammyG]

Are you fucking kidding me, 6 people didn't know who Floyd Mayweather was? Come on now, retards. He is an amazing boxer.

[BigDaddyCool]

Well, when you don't follow boxing it is hard to know who some light heavy wieght boxer is. That is like getting pissed at people who don't follow MMA and not knowing who Chuck Lidel is.

[Jura]

Even though I don't follow boxing, really good boxers will always be in the news so I knew who he was even if I didn't know how he looked like.

[Londoner]

^ Exactly, do you guys who said no, not follow the news or somethin?

BDC- He's beaten the best every country has had to offer in his division, his record is 39-0. that's why.

[KingofOldSchool]

I knew he's a boxer and that he is black, but other than that...

[RGWhat316]

I've heard the name before, but didn't actually know who he was.

[BigDaddyCool]

^ Exactly, do you guys who said no, not follow the news or somethin?

BDCF- He's beaten the best every country has had to offer in his division, his record is 39-0. that's why.

Don't know what the f stands for, I assume you are talking to me. I follow the news, and said I heard his name before, but I really don't care all that much about boxing so anything I did hear I forgot about immediately. Also being a really good lightheavy wieght boxers still doesn't make you the best fighter in the world, just makes you the best lightheavy wieght boxer in the world. I'm not trying to knock him, just learn more. Has he beaten any heavywieghts, and follow up question to that, were the worth a damn if he did?

[weather vane]

yes 100%

[Londoner]

Sorry that was a typo, bdc, dunno how that happened.

[BigDaddyCool]

At first I figured you were going for a BigDaddyFool joke, but the C was still there and it didn't make any sence. But no harm, no fool.

[Blue Demon]

I knew the name, but not really who he was.

[Porcupine]

Nope.

Never even heard his name before this.

[Tommy Gunn]

I didn't, but maybe it's because I'm in the UK and only ever watch the Sports channels for WWE.

Maybe boxing is more of a big deal stateside, but the only boxing I usually watch is when I break out the Rocky movies.

[Lock Jaw]

I knew the name, but not who he was, what he looked like, or what he had done. And I only remembered that I knew the name after hearing it at NWO. Kinda like "Yeah, I know that name..."

So I'll vote no.

[Londoner]

I didn't, but maybe it's because I'm in the UK and only ever watch the Sports channels for WWE.

Maybe boxing is more of a big deal stateside, but the only boxing I usually watch is when I break out the Rocky movies.

Well if you would've watched sky sports news you would've heard about the hatton/mayweather fight alot, im amazed you've never bothered to watch that news channel.

[Xero]

Just face it, a lot of people didn't know who the fuck he was.

[Londoner]

16-14 in favour of yes, tbh. which shows quite a few more than you think do know of him.

[Kane Knight]

^ Exactly, do you guys who said no, not follow the news or somethin?

BDC- He's beaten the best every country has had to offer in his division, his record is 39-0. that's why.

That's me--Never following the news.

[The Optimist]

Boxing isn't news.

And no. I heard his name in passing because I follow the NFL and NBA more than casually, but I didn't know who he was.

[Kane Knight]

A better question is why I should know him if I don't follow Boxing.

[The Mackem]

Interesting, I thought he was well known in the US but it's possible that we here in the UK have had him rammed down our throats more. Do you guys know who De La Hoya is?

I just asssumed that with Mayweather being by far the greatest boxer in the hottest division in boxing meant he was very popular, especially in the States where you guys like your champs.

[The Optimist]

Lol. Profiling aside, I think De La Hoya is sort of popular. He was on a Simpson's episode.

[The Mackem]

Well Mayweather beat De La Hoya with Jack Nicholson, Michael Jordan and that lass from Desperate Housewives in attendance. People like Michael Jordan...he was a good baseball player.

Do you guys know who Tiger Woods is?

[El Fangel]

Well Mayweather beat De La Hoya with Jack Nicholson, Michael Jordan and that lass from Desperate Housewives in attendance. People like Michael Jordan...he was a good baseball player.

Do you guys know who Tiger Woods is?

Isnt he that porn star?

[Dave Youell]

Yeah I know him, I didn’t really know anything about him until that De La Hoya fight, then when the Hatton fight stuff kicked into gear I knew a heck of a lot more about him, most of my knowledge of him comes from Sky Sports News (our version of ESPN)

I amazed if anyone who catches 30 mins of Sky Sports News a day (like most men should :mad: ) that you haven’t heard of him.

He is right now, the best active boxer in the world

Shane was pushing to either get a boxer or an MMA fighter, I don’t care how popular Chuck Lidell is, more people worldwide would know who Mayweather is

[DaVe]

Xero's theory and poll is taking a beatdown at the moment.:p

[Disturbed316]

Ice skater?

[V]

i dont even know who he is after his involvement in wrestling

[Kane Knight]

Well Mayweather beat De La Hoya with Jack Nicholson, Michael Jordan and that lass from Desperate Housewives in attendance. People like Michael Jordan...he was a good baseball player.

Do you guys know who Tiger Woods is?

Yeah, he;s that guy from the Street Fighter Games!

:roll:

No, but seriously. Apart from being a golfer who has broken a perceived age and colour barrier, Woods actually has, you know, crossover status.

When Mayweather is modeling underwear, the two'll be comparable.

[The Mackem]

I get it, they get on your radar when they're modelling underwear.

[Kris P Lettus]

Well, when you don't follow boxing it is hard to know who some light heavy wieght boxer is. That is like getting pissed at people who don't follow MMA and not knowing who Chuck Lidel is.

NO

It's be more like someone who doesn't follow basketball not knowing who Kobe Bryant is.. Boxing is covered by all types of mainstream media.. It's not like you have to seek out news about boxing.. It's always in the newspaper, on tv (even on channels like CNN), and is constantly actually shown on regular cable tv.. The same can not be said about MMA..

That's a stupid analogy..

[Kris P Lettus]

Just face it, a lot of people didn't know who the fuck he was.

Alot of pro wrestling fans didn't know who he was..

I bet worldwide, he is much more known than the Big Show..

[Kane Knight]

I get it, they get on your radar when they're modelling underwear.:drool::drool::drool::drool:

I had no idea who Jordan was until he signed on with Hanes.

[Kane Knight]

Alot of pro wrestling fans didn't know who he was..

I bet worldwide, he is much more known than the Big Show..

The real question is, would the people who know him buy a wrestling PPV because of it?

[The Mackem]

I think it might interest some people, might even push people who are on the verge of buying as well. I know it's not really measurable. However from a business standpoint, say if it was between hiring Mayweather and spending a further $20 000 000 on various advertising techniques - I think they called it well. It's generating interest outside the wrestling world at the very least.

It's the only match I know of at Wrestlemania beside Batista v. Umaga (read it on here today).

[Kane Knight]

So...It's not measurable, but it's succeeding. I will follow your lead, and pull results straight out of my ass.

[The Mackem]

Not measureable in specific number of directly attributable buyrates, succeeding in interest. Pretty simple logic.

[Kane Knight]

More interest was generated from Donald Trump's involvement; measurable interest that translated into buyrates. That didn't cost them 20 million. Your logic sucks.

[The Mackem]

They're obviously catering to a different market. I've seen more build up for Wrestlemania this year already because of Mayweather's involvement than I have of Trump's last year (i.e none).

[Jeritron]

I'd like to go on record as of saying, for those who say "I don't know who Flloyd Mayweather is, therefore a lot of people must not" all I can weigh in with is my observations.

I live with 6 other college males, none of them have been wrestling fans since the attitude era. I'm also around another dozen or so people who are in the same boat. All of them are interetested in watching Wrestlemania and are genuinely intrigued by the whole thing, and all the news and rumors regarding. They even tune into Raw just to see the segments, and usually have comments for me about how awful the storylines and show is, and how much of a slob Val Venis has become and stuff like that.

Granted, this is the observation of a small group of one demographic. However it holds to it far more weight as a survey of how recognizable and draw-able Mayweather is than one or two smarks who rarely leave the computer saying "I've never heard of him its a waste of money and he ca't draw, how about that Londrick match on heat tho?"

But it's seriously going to help buyrates, and up attendance at sports bar type settings which carry wrestlemania.

[Jeritron]

Oh and yes I knew who he was, I know nothing about boxing nor do I follow it but he's pretty damn famous. Plus he was all over HBO and non-wrestling television.

I actually can list all the boxers who ever have boxed that I know..
Muhamad Ali, Jou Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard, Rocky Marciano, Mike Tyson, Evander Hollyfield, Lennox Lewis, Oscar DeLa Hoya, Roy Jones and Flloyd Mayweather

[BigDaddyCool]

I know Oscar De La Hoya is. I would probably even reconize him in a crowd. Then again, De La Hoya was in boxing when it still was barely relevent.

[Jeritron]

I mean, with no interest in boxing, and rarely seeing anything about it, I find it hard to not know who these people are. I have no interest in the whole paparazzi TMZ bullshit, but I still know who Perez Hilton and Kim Kardashian and all those psuedo celebrities are.
I also have no interest in soccer, but I know who Ronaldinho and Rooney and Henry and all the famous players are.

Are people completely oblivious to the world around them?

[BigDaddyCool]

NO

It's be more like someone who doesn't follow basketball not knowing who Kobe Bryant is.. Boxing is covered by all types of mainstream media.. It's not like you have to seek out news about boxing.. It's always in the newspaper, on tv (even on channels like CNN), and is constantly actually shown on regular cable tv.. The same can not be said about MMA..

That's a stupid analogy..

I think you exmaple is worse for the following reasons:

1) To my knowledge MMA is bigger than boxing is right now.

2) Kobe has had sex scandels and you would have to live in a hole not to know who he is, plus he is further along in his career than Mayweather is, probably. I'm not sure, but it seems that way too me.

3) Boxing is crap.

[BigDaddyCool]

I mean, with no interest in boxing, and rarely seeing anything about it, I find it hard to not know who these people are. I have no interest in the whole paparazzi TMZ bullshit, but I still know who Perez Hilton and Kim Kardashian and all those psuedo celebrities are.
I also have no interest in soccer, but I know who Ronaldinho and Rooney and Henry and all the famous players are.

Are people completely oblivious to the world around them?

I know of this Ronaldinho you speak of he was in a Simpsons, correct? The other 2 I don't know.

Also, why spaz out because people aren't completely aware of an athelete from a dying sport?

[McLegend]

Well Mayweather beat De La Hoya with Jack Nicholson, Michael Jordan and that lass from Desperate Housewives in attendance. People like Michael Jordan...he was a good baseball player.

Do you guys know who Tiger Woods is?

The Mackem, you are crazy. Michael Jordan was not a good baseball player. He was however pretty good at basketball though.

[Kane Knight]

They're obviously catering to a different market. I've seen more build up for Wrestlemania this year already because of Mayweather's involvement than I have of Trump's last year (i.e none).

Catering to a different market doesn't mean much. Nor does the fact that you saw nothing promoting McMahon/Trump.

[Dorkchop]

I never heard of him before No Way Out. I barely watch tv, and don't follow real sports in way shape or form.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I'm surprised there are people on this site that haven't heard of him.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I seriously can't believe all these people didn't know who he was. Even for sports I don't watch, I can name some top stars.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The thing that really gets me though is the fact that they're trying to play him as a face. In that big De La Hoya fight (which I'm shocked that some people didn't even catch a glimpse of the hype machine there), he was made to be the cocky, arrogant asshole against Oscar's....well, Golden Boy.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Have you guys ever even played the Fight Night video games? Never even saw his name scrolling through characters?

[Anybody Thrilla]

And why isn't this poll public? This is an outrage.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, to be fair, it looks like most of the people who voted they didn't know who he was. Also said they have heard the name or had a very vague idea of who he was.

[Lock Jaw]

They should have got George Foreman instead. More people know who he is. He's got big crossover appeal.

[My Final Heaven]

I've heard the name before, but didn't actually know who he was.

[DrA]

I guess I can see how someone could not know who he was, but it's surprising to see that on a wrestling forum where people are fans of professional wrestling and mixed martial arts. I guess it goes to show that some of you like to stay in your specific "niche" of entertainment.

[Kane Knight]

Have you guys ever even played the Fight Night video games? Never even saw his name scrolling through characters?

Also, to be fair, it looks like most of the people who voted they didn't know who he was. Also said they have heard the name or had a very vague idea of who he was.

[The Mackem]

Catering to a different market doesn't mean much. Nor does the fact that you saw nothing promoting McMahon/Trump.

If it was indicative of a sample of the population it definitely would be. People will be more interested in Mayweather for the pure fact that he is at the top of his game and that his fights attract a lot of people. Not one person came up to me and said 'Donald Trump is going to be at Wrestlemania' last year nor did I see anything in the media. I've already had dozens of ex-wrestling fans mentioning Mayweather having seen all about him and the Big Show on the news. The news anchors that I was watching were even commenting on the fact that Mayweather's punch was real.

I'm pleasantly suprised by the WWE's direction on this. They've set out an interesting strategy which could lead to a fresh direction for the product if handled well in Wrestlemania's aftermath.

[addy2hotty]

Money is quite well known now in the UK due to the Hatton fight etc. Quite a lot of publicity on UK Sports TV and Radio and stuff. Working a treat if you ask me.

I like Mayweather as a fighter, and he's a better heel in Boxing then any of the so-called ones in WWE at the moment. It's gold and probably worth $20m imo.

[Kane Knight]

If it was indicative of a sample of the population it definitely would be. People will be more interested in Mayweather for the pure fact that he is at the top of his game and that his fights attract a lot of people. Not one person came up to me and said 'Donald Trump is going to be at Wrestlemania' last year nor did I see anything in the media. I've already had dozens of ex-wrestling fans mentioning Mayweather having seen all about him and the Big Show on the news. The news anchors that I was watching were even commenting on the fact that Mayweather's punch was real.

I'm pleasantly suprised by the WWE's direction on this. They've set out an interesting strategy which could lead to a fresh direction for the product if handled well in Wrestlemania's aftermath.

Still going with the "pulling it out your ass" route, I see.

[McLegend]

I think Maywheather is acutally going to be pretty good leading up to Mania. Even better if they go the heel route.

Still though I don't believe the he is getting 20 mill. This would be the most ridiclious over spending for a person ever.

[The Mackem]

It's ok if you disagree, someone in underwear next year if you ask them nicely.

[The Mackem]

I think Maywheather is acutally going to be pretty good leading up to Mania. Even better if they go the heel route.

Still though I don't believe the he is getting 20 mill. That would be way over spending.

Probably over exaggerated like everything else in the WWE.

[McLegend]

That would probably be correct, The Mackem.

[Kris P Lettus]

I think you exmaple is worse for the following reasons:

1) To my knowledge MMA is bigger than boxing is right now.

2) Kobe has had sex scandels and you would have to live in a hole not to know who he is, plus he is further along in his career than Mayweather is, probably. I'm not sure, but it seems that way too me.

3) Boxing is crap.

I'm saying boxing is still a more "mainstream" sport than MMA.. The fact that my local paper covers boxing but has never done an MMA story proves this, in my view.. I completely understand that MMA is better and much more entertaining ATM..

You really cant be that big of an MMA fan cause Mayweather came out and boasted last year that he is the best fighter in the world etc etc and that he could be any MMA fighter etc etc.. There has been alot of hype in the MMA world about him fighting in UFC..

Also, your whole "MMA is bigger" shit is flat out wrong.. I think the highest buyrate for any PPV ever was a few months ago when FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR beat Oscar De La Hoya, just an FYI..

Another little tidbit of info for you, Mayweather became pro in 1996, the same year Kobe was drafted..

p.s. I f'n hate Mayweather BTW..

[Kane Knight]

I'm saying boxing is still a more "mainstream" sport than MMA.. The fact that my local paper covers boxing but has never done an MMA story proves this, in my view..


Just don't expect it to prove it to anyone else. After all:


Newspapers are generally the vanguard of the old.
Your personal experience does not equal the experience of the world.
PENGUIN FUCKER! (No, I'm joking, settle down Krispy)

[Kris P Lettus]

Watch the sports portion of your local news anytime there's a big boxing match going on and I bet they mention it.. Along with the sports portion of national news, on say, CNN.. Also on mainstream sports channels like Fox Sports and ESPN.. MMA gets about a tenth of the coverage pro boxing gets on a local and national level.. Yes that is my personal experience, and to say it does not equal the experience of the world is retarded..

[Kane Knight]

Watch the sports portion of your local news anytime there's a big boxing match going on and I bet they mention it..


You'd lose that wager....

[thedamndest]

I am pissed off that ever since Mayweather was on Raw I have had "I Get Money" stuck in my head and have to watch it on youtube whenever I am online.

[NeanderCarl]

Not a huge boxing fan, but Mayweather-Hatton got a lot of hype here in the UK (Hatton's being presented as a "national hero" as of late... even though my homeboy Calzaghe needs more recognition)

Like a sucker, I bought the Hatton-Mayweather PPV.

[Nervous Ferret]

He is kind of a big deal

[NeanderCarl]

Also, I have actually seen the mainstream UK media mention the Mayweather/WrestleMania involvement, whereas I never saw a single mention of Trump during last years WrestleMania season.

I'm not saying there wasn't any, but I'm somebody who keeps up with various forms of news media regularly, therefore if I didn't see it there are a lot of people who also didn't see it.

[DaVe]

It just depends on the country. Here in Aus we have no idea who Mayweather is, and consequently there is no mentioning in the media of Mayweather at all. By comparison after Trump shaved McMahon's hair, it was all over the web (ie. the online newspapers) and vision of Vince going 'nooooo' while his hair was being shaved by Trump was shown on some network channels' news.

[NeanderCarl]

To be fair, prior to the Hatton fight, I'd never heard a peep about Mayweather in the British press (he was probably covered by the sports pages boxing coverage, which is usually hidden away in the ad section of almost every newspaper and nobody reads except boxing fans).

I knew who he was before the Hatton fight because I saw the De La Hoya fight, but prior to that I had never even heard of him.

[Kane Knight]

It just depends on the country. Here in Aus we have no idea who Mayweather is, and consequently there is no mentioning in the media of Mayweather at all. By comparison after Trump shaved McMahon's hair, it was all over the web (ie. the online newspapers) and vision of Vince going 'nooooo' while his hair was being shaved by Trump was shown on some network channels' news.

In the US, the Trump match was all over the place. It was in mainstream papers, on TV news, on the web, etc. It was well hyped well before Mania, and it continued steam for a week or two after.

With the exception of sports sites, I'm not seeing anything so far that counts as anywhere near that kind of coverage. Even then, I'm not seeing a lot of depth behind the sports coverage I've seen so far. I mean, I'm not saying there's none, but it's not going to get the same attention. I can all but guarantee that.

And honestly, presumably there's already a large portion of the fanbase who's already interested in him, which is great, but that's generally not what celebrites are designed to bring in. WWE wants popular appealr; how they think they can get it with K-Fed is beyond me, but they want an external fanbase. The Donald appealed to a group of people who might not otherwise care, and I really don't think you can say that about Mayweather. That's not to doubt that people like him, or know who he is.

Fuck, I had a conclusion I wanted to make, but I'm tired. Maybe I'll get to it tomorrow.