Saw V.

[PorkSoda]

Comes out this Friday. Anyone else pumped for it?

Looked at IMDB at the cast, and I'm more excited at whos returning in it. Gonna be sweet as ice :D

[Lock Jaw]

Another one? Wasn't the last one supposed to be the last?

[PorkSoda]

No. Saw 6 may be he last, but there are talks of a 7th one.

[U-Warrior]

didnt even know there was a saw 4

[XL]

I loved the first one. Thought the second one was an impressive sequel. Disliked Saw III. Haven't gotten round to watching Saw 4 and at this point have zero interest in Saw V.

[Funky Fly]

Saw the first, was mildly amused, never bothered with any sequels. Seems like they have a new one every year. Kinda asinine, IMO.

[James Steele]

I am still not sure of the timeline of all the movies. Are they all happening at the same time or what?

[U-Warrior]

Yeah, loved the ending of the first one. II and III were a resounding "meh"

[Boondock Saint]

I'll see it. I enjoy 3 the most. Dunno if I'll see 5 in the theater. Only one I've seen in the theater is 1.

It's the new Friday the 13th/Nightmare on Elm Street. As long as they keep making money they will make more.

[Jeritron]

The ending of the first one was so forced. Yea sure it was shocking, but also incredibly stupid. Of course it's shocking that the dead guy was him there the whole time. It was for no other reason than a cheap swerve. It makes no sense past that motivation-wise or in any other fashion. He's there just to get up and provide a twist.
It also caps off a pretty awful movie.
It's Seven with severe brain damage and nothing of any meaning at the core.

I just think the whole series is garbage. Somehow, I saw 2 and 3 and was even less amused. 3 was total garbage, but 2 was actually better than the first.
Happenstance hasn't landed me in a room where the fourth is being shown and I hope it doesn't.

[Downunder]

Yeah, loved the ending of the first one. II and III were a resounding "meh"

[James Steele]

I only saw IV in a theater. I enjoy the films, but the timeline just confuses the hell out of me.

[Jeritron]

Don't try to rack your brain on it dude. I think the writing/preproduction process for each is shorter than the final runtime.

I love horror, and I even enjoy crappy horror. I just don't see the redeeming qualities in any of this and what absolutely drives me wild is how people eat it up and buy into the pretentious sense of importance or story they try to inject in to low rent twists and torture porn.
I hate Saw.

[Xerzes]

It'll be shit.

[Rob]

I loved the first one. Thought the second one was an impressive sequel. Disliked Saw III. Haven't gotten round to watching Saw 4 and at this point have zero interest in Saw V.

Aside from the second being an impressive sequel (it was ok but nothing special for me), I'd agree entirely with this.

[James Steele]

Don't try to rack your brain on it dude. I think the writing/preproduction process for each is shorter than the final runtime.

I love horror, and I even enjoy crappy horror. I just don't see the redeeming qualities in any of this and what absolutely drives me wild is how people eat it up and buy into the pretentious sense of importance or story they try to inject in to low rent twists and torture porn.
I hate Saw.

I just looked it up on IMDB and Wikipedia, and I didn't know that there were that many different writers, directors, etc.

The timeline things just bugged the hell out of me after watching IV because you will see characters and the same ending from III in the middle of IV and the same thing happened in III with II. I don't think the films are great (hence why I only saw IV in theaters with a group of friends) but there is potential for some great stringing together of these films into something. I do understand why many hate the movies (some of the traps just get absurd). To me, it is just enough story to keep me interested but not enough of it to leave me fulfilled...I guess that is how they make money off of the sequals.

[Boondock Saint]

Dunno. I actually think the series does a good job of keeping a continuity between films unlike most horror franchises, that mostly ignore the previous film.

[D Mac]

I never saw any Saws.

[ct2k]

I'm holding out for Saw 8 tbh

[Disturbed316]

I love them all.

[Juan]

I've seen all 4, so I kind of feel obligated to watch this one, since I invested time (and even money on saw 3 and 4) into these movies. They're not the best horror flicks, but they're a cheap thrill.

[RP]

I dont think there masterpeices at all, but i enjoy them. I dont go to the theatre thinking every movie has to be an A+. Saw movies are entertaining to me.

The first one where the guy got off the floor, after all the shit that happend, was a big holy shit moment to me.

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font color="#ff6600">I'll probably go see it because its become sort of a tradition that everytime a new Saw film comes out, I go see it with my friend who I hardly see anymore.

I think the first Saw was a good film, it was something a bit different. Same with Saw II, they weren't gonna win any Oscars but they were decent. Saw III and IV gradually got more and more contrived though.

For anyone confused about the timeline, from what I can remember Saw happened first, then Saw II, then Saw III and IV happen at the same time but IV also has flashbacks of what happened before the first Saw.</font>

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I've never seen any of the Saw films. Must of passed me by.

[BigDaddyCool]

I think I've seen 1 - 3. When 4 came out, I was all like meh. And 5 is like, they are still going with this?

[Loose Cannon]

I dont think there masterpeices at all, but i enjoy them. I dont go to the theatre thinking every movie has to be an A+. Saw movies are entertaining to me.

The first one where the guy got off the floor, after all the shit that happend, was a big holy shit moment to me.

my words :y:

[PorkSoda]

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For anyone confused about the timeline, from what I can remember Saw happened first, then Saw II, then Saw III and IV happen at the same time but IV also has flashbacks of what happened before the first Saw.</font>

Pretty sure Saw III picked up right after Saw II. Saw IV really takes place six months after Saw III, but some events happen right after and even during III.

[Champion of Europa]

The movies are getting progressively worse, and I just don't give a shit about the franchise anymore.

[thedamndest]

Let me know when Saw takes on Tommy Gunn in the street fight.

[XL]

Aside from the second being an impressive sequel (it was ok but nothing special for me), I'd agree entirely with this.
Oh, I'm not saying it was great by any stretch of the imagination. I kinda see sequels being traditionally poorer than the original, so when a sequel arrives that is somewhere between being on a par with the original and not being God awful I'm impressed.

How anyone can say that 3 was their favourite I'll never know! They seemed to replace any sense of plot or sense with a nice pile of "EXTRA SUPER GORE". That shit doesn't interest me.

[PorkSoda]

How anyone can say that 3 was their favourite I'll never know! They seemed to replace any sense of plot or sense with a nice pile of "EXTRA SUPER GORE". That shit doesn't interest me.

I really think that from Saw II up is really one big movie. And in the middle of movies there are action scenes, theres talk, etc.

Take Bourne Ultimatum for example, that started as an action scene, then talk, then an action scene with talk, then more talk, then another action scene then a fight scene, then more talk...

Saw III is really the middle of the whole franchise. If you watch Saw II up and think of it as one big movie, Saw III is the gore/action of the whole series.

[Jon Kano]

Saw has become the unseen, get it? - yinno, like I saw something?, I saw it, I seen it, and unseen is like, not seeing it? as in ignoring it?..no?

[XL]

I really think that from Saw II up is really one big movie. And in the middle of movies there are action scenes, theres talk, etc.

Saw III is really the middle of the whole franchise. If you watch Saw II up and think of it as one big movie, Saw III is the gore/action of the whole series.
Perhaps I should watch 4 and see if it puts a new spin on 3!?

[Blitz]

Saw the first, was mildly amused, never bothered with any sequels. Seems like they have a new one every year. Kinda asinine, IMO.
Because they do.

I will go on record as saying that Saw 1 had one of the most ludicrously stupid endings in the history of cinema. Saw 2 is my favourite, since it has a ton of Tobin Bell, who's easily the best thing in the franchise.

[RGWhat316]

I love the Saw movies. They have a decent story, but like a few have said, the timeline gets annoying at times. I didn't even realize until the end of Saw IV, that it was taking place at the same time as Saw III. The movie starts like its the end of III, but the main storyline is during III.

But I will keep watching mainly to see the different traps they keep coming up with.

[Jeritron]

Low expectations by audiences is what allows this garbage to persist.

[Fox]

SAW is the "Nightmare"/"Friday the 13th" of this generation, and I am enjoying the ride so far. There are still things to be explained regarding Jigsaw's past and I think that could be interesting. I am also interested in some of the members of the returning cast. There will be twists... oh yes.

[PorkSoda]

Two more days....bwahahha

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[FearedSanctity]

Watching the screening of this at work tonight. I'll let you guys know how it goes, but keep in mind, I love the series

[PorkSoda]

One more day....

2 hours actually.

Wont be seeing this until Saturday, though. I'm excited as fuck :D

[Gertner]

Only one i didn't like was Saw 2

[FearedSanctity]

Was actually pretty good, better than I'd expected. Def a lot more story to this one, and it makes sense and doesn't really seem like it was just tacked on. The torture parts are short and broken up by story and flashbacks.

Definitely would recommend to anyone who's interested, but not to anyone who hasn't seen the series or at least knows something about the story.

[RGWhat316]

It was a solid movie, but not my favorites among the series. The traps were decent, but not as creative Ive seen in the previous Saw's. Though I was a little disappointed in the ending. They pegged it as "you won't believe how it ends". But it really didn't seem as shocking to me as they said it would be.

[James Steele]

I agree with FearedSanctity on this.

[DrA]

My favorite one was Saw III where they had the negro twisting machine.

[thedamndest]

You mean the Black-Screw.

[PorkSoda]

You mean The Rack.

[Jeritron]

aka The Black Rack or The Chocolate Factory

[PorkSoda]

Saw this today. It was good, not the best in the series, but it was good for a Saw movie. Most of the movie ties in with the others.

One complaint: Why doesn't Hoffman say "Game Over" in the end? They do it in the other Saw's, and he just doesn't do it. It's like he forgot to or something......that ticked me off.

[FearedSanctity]

One complaint: Why doesn't Hoffman say "Game Over" in the end? They do it in the other Saw's, and he just doesn't do it. It's like he forgot to or something......that ticked me off.

Said the exact same thing after I'd watched it. Small, but still bugged me. And it's not like it'd have exactly been forced or anything. He had the chance and it'd have made perfect sense as Strahm is getting crushed. I was just waiting the entire time and it never happened. :(

Also, this movie really makes you appreciate your arm a lot more.

[dablackguy]

Everyone so far liked this?

I thought it was crap.

I like the idea of Stram going after Hoffman but it was stupid to me to have the 'players' be all like ok, let's go into the next room and do this. They definitely seemed to be volunteers more than anything. The 8 people dying in the fire angle I thought was garbage and really stretching to cash in.

And the box. I know we're getting Saw 6, but how can you not even give us a clue as to what's in the box?

Not the worst movie I've seen recently (Max Payne) but the other Saw movies put it to shame

Incidentally, the 1st thing that comes up is written by such and such... did this one have a different writer? If it did, it doesn't shock me.

[Lara Emily]

It was written by the guys who did Feast which is a shame because Feast was awesome. Saw V was one giant trailer for Saw VI

[El Fangel]

The movies are getting progressively worse, and I just don't give a shit about the franchise anymore.

[RGWhat316]

And the box. I know we're getting Saw 6, but how can you not even give us a clue as to what's in the box?

The only theory I have is that it had something to do with Strahm. The only other time we saw Jill in the movie is when she thought Strahm was stalking her. But other than that, I have no clue what would be in the box.

[ManayZ]

Saw 5 was really terrible, there was nothing good about it, imo.

Loved the first Saw, part 2 was an alright sequel, but I've been meh about them all ever since.

[loopydate]

The original Saw was the best horror movie I had seen in a long time. It was inventive, it took the conventions of the genre and turned them on their ear. Here's a killer who isn't an unstoppable immortal machine. It's a regular guy, flawed, driven to madness, taking out his frustrations on other flawed people by making them confront the mistakes they've made - creating life-and-death games in the process. If you can atone for the wrong you've done to other people, you live. you don't, you die.

And then the second movie ruined it. They took the premise of the first one, then tacked on "Oh, but we've been gassing you the whole time, so you're all going to die anyway. Lolz, made ya suffer!" So... what was the point in them redeeming themselves?

Plus, unlike every other horror movie in the last two decades, almost all of the violence was implied in the original. People's reactions to horrible acts are infinitely more interesting to me than the acts themselves. The close-ups as he saws through his own leg disturbed me way more than a gratuitous continuous shot of the leg coming off. And then in the second one... they show a girl fall in a pit of hypodermic needles? Utterly unnecessary, and from there it dipped into the torture porn that the first movie so carefully avoided.

After the second one neutered everything that made the first one amazing, I lost all interest in the series. I don't care how many more of these they make, they're not getting another dime from me.

[Fox]

The only theory I have is that it had something to do with Strahm. The only other time we saw Jill in the movie is when she thought Strahm was stalking her. But other than that, I have no clue what would be in the box.

Jigsaw said that if he was to be killed by Hoffman (after he abducted him) then Hoffman's murder would be revealed because the evidence was in a "safe place." This was a bit of insurance for Jigsaw just in case Hoffman didn't decide to join up with him. I believe that whatever is in the box is some kind of insurance to incriminate someone else in case Jigsaw died.

That was at least a year before the events of SAW V though, so its reasonable to think that the contents of the box were changed. I think that there's a third killer who will be revealed in SAW VI, probably the wife of Jigsaw.


Either way, SAW V was a waste of my time. I didn't give two shits about any of the characters save Jigsaw, and he's fuckin' dead already. The "traps" were totally predictable, there was no twist at the end, I didn't give a fuck about the guy and girl who had to give blood at the end, and the only kind of cool moment was Hoffman in the glass box while Strahm is crushed to death.

Pretty obvious to tell that this was an amateur director at work. The actors gave nothing to the film, and there weren't any shots or production work that was in any way outstanding or memorable.

SAW V: 3/10

[Blue Demon]

The original Saw was the best horror movie I had seen in a long time. It was inventive, it took the conventions of the genre and turned them on their ear. Here's a killer who isn't an unstoppable immortal machine. It's a regular guy, flawed, driven to madness, taking out his frustrations on other flawed people by making them confront the mistakes they've made - creating life-and-death games in the process. If you can atone for the wrong you've done to other people, you live. you don't, you die.

And then the second movie ruined it. They took the premise of the first one, then tacked on "Oh, but we've been gassing you the whole time, so you're all going to die anyway. Lolz, made ya suffer!" So... what was the point in them redeeming themselves?

Plus, unlike every other horror movie in the last two decades, almost all of the violence was implied in the original. People's reactions to horrible acts are infinitely more interesting to me than the acts themselves. The close-ups as he saws through his own leg disturbed me way more than a gratuitous continuous shot of the leg coming off. And then in the second one... they show a girl fall in a pit of hypodermic needles? Utterly unnecessary, and from there it dipped into the torture porn that the first movie so carefully avoided.

After the second one neutered everything that made the first one amazing, I lost all interest in the series. I don't care how many more of these they make, they're not getting another dime from me.

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