Ryu vs Ken [Archive] - TPWW Forums

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 07:45 PM

http://neoempire.com/myspace/ryu_ken.gif

We're gonna settle this shit NOW!

And discuss your Goddamn answers!

This is the greatest fffucking poll I ever did!

:mad:

Fucking vote and discuss now!

I vote Ken Masters; mostly because he's badass and partly because Ryu's gay. His Shoryuken sets his fucking fist on fire, and its range is greater. His Hurricane Kick combos and his standard kicks are better than Ryu's. His Shinryuken is most likely better than Ryu's Shinku-Shoryuken - which I always thought was Ryu's attempt at being a smart-ass anyway. And Ken has better theme music.

Ken wins. :foc:

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 07:46 PM

I forgot to add a FFFFffucking poll!!!!

Funky Fly

11-04-2008, 07:56 PM

Nice.

Destor

11-04-2008, 08:41 PM

You can still add the poll. Click thread tools...

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 08:46 PM

You can still add the poll. Click thread tools...

Holy fucking shit, bro. Holy FUCKING SHIT

Ken FTW, bitch.

Boomer

11-04-2008, 08:53 PM

Ken, most certainly. Fucking fire uppercut.

UmbrellaCorporation

11-04-2008, 09:03 PM

Yeah, taking Ken here.

Blitz

11-04-2008, 09:04 PM

Ken Masters.

Juan

11-04-2008, 09:06 PM

I was always a Ryu guy.

BigDaddyCool

11-04-2008, 09:08 PM

Like before, Guile.

BigDaddyCool

11-04-2008, 09:11 PM

But between Ken and Ryu (is it Rie-you or Re-you?), Ken because Ryu is a douche, while Ken is a lovable jerk.

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 09:13 PM

'Re-You'

BigDaddyCool

11-04-2008, 09:15 PM

Wrong, Rie-ewe.

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 09:18 PM

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 09:20 PM

Wrong, Rie-ewe.

Wrong: Its a fucking corpse after Ken is done with him.

http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ryu-ken-training.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3637/streetfighter4ts8.jpg

Epic... FUCKING EPIC!!!

:mad::mad::mad:

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 11:11 PM

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/namcoxcapcom/art-021.jpg
OBAMA WON!

Y2Ant

11-04-2008, 11:37 PM

Blue wins again. :cool:

Ken > Ryu

Kalyx triaD

11-04-2008, 11:39 PM

This is the only place red wins, baby!

Drakul

11-04-2008, 11:49 PM

I voted for Ken, easily. Just because I find him better to play as, really.

(is it Rie-you or Re-you?)

It's one of those things in games where everyone pronounces it differently.
I say Ry-yoo but others say Ree-yoo or Reey-oo.

Other pronounciation problems are words like Deku (Deh-ku or Dee-koo?) and Zangief. I've heard Zangief pronounced as booth Zan-geef and Zan-gee-eff in Street Fighter products.

The whole thing may be down to your dialect/accent because a lot of Americans seem to pronounce Mario and Wario as Mawr-ee-o and Wawr-ee-o and not Mah-rio and Whah-rio as Europeans and Japanese pronounce it.

edit: On a related note, what's with the Hadouken? That constantly switches it spelling. Sometimes it's spelt Hadouken and other times the U is left out and it's written Hadoken.

Kane Knight

11-04-2008, 11:49 PM

Year's later, Ryu is still vanilla.

Y2Ant

11-04-2008, 11:51 PM

This is the only place red wins, baby!

The blue bar is winning on the poll though. :mad:

(and I always use Burple Ken anyway)

Reavant

11-05-2008, 09:50 AM

I vote Guile

BigDaddyCool

11-05-2008, 10:05 AM

Reey-oo is just plain wrong.

Kane Knight

11-05-2008, 01:03 PM

It's Japanese. Pretty much everything Japanese is just plain wrong.

LoDownM

11-05-2008, 01:10 PM

They both suck and Chun Li should be the face of Street Fighter.

Jon Kano

11-05-2008, 01:19 PM

Interference from Akuma, and he slays the fuck out of both of them because HE IS the supreme champion.

Drakul

11-05-2008, 01:42 PM

They both suck and Chun Li should be the face of Street Fighter.
Street Fighter IV box art:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/09/streetfighterbox.jpg

mitchables

11-05-2008, 09:35 PM

Gonna go anti-everyone else here and say Ryu, for the following reasons:

Ryu gave Sagat his gargantuan fucking chest scar
He is a badass, mysterious "wandering warrior", not a fucking attention-seeking glory hog like Masters
Ken was fighting T-Hawk in an abandoned warehouse when Bison tracked him down; how desperate was he for battles?
Ken gets ambushed like a bitch and brainwashed by Bison without even really putting up any kind of a fight
Ryu's power is so immense that Dhalsim could sense it just by being in his general vicinity
Ryu holds off Bison way longer than Ken could, who basically gets knocked out of the way and loses function of his legs until he remembers how to work them again, rejoining the battle just in time to fire off one hadouken with Ryu and claim the joint victory, after essentially being out of the entire fight.

:n:

Kalyx triaD

11-05-2008, 10:20 PM

Sagat sucks

Ryu's a bum, Ken actually supports his travels.

T-Hawk picked a fight, and rightfully got his ass handed to him.

Bison went after Ken in the first place because he recognized his power.

Dhalsim may have sensed Ken's power as well, but we'd never know as they never came across each other.

Also, check out the Street Fighter American series (USA kids block) which had an episode where Ken defeats Akuma after Ryu fails epically. Despite it being a bastardized American hybrid of the game and movie - that episode is one of the best SF stories ever told. And it perfectly illustrates Ryu's issues and why Ken gets the job done.

And again, a fire uppercut.

mitchables

11-05-2008, 10:22 PM

Bison was chasing Ryu before he stumbled across Ken. Ken was his consolation prize because he was so easy to find and capture.

mitchables

11-05-2008, 10:25 PM

And also, as for the whole fire uppercut thing, a buttload of good it did him, eh?

mitchables

11-05-2008, 10:28 PM

Oh, plus, Ken can't let go of stuff. While Ryu was happily traversing Asia in search of new battles, Ken was obsessing about having a rematch with Ryu.

Baggage much?

Kalyx triaD

11-05-2008, 10:29 PM

mitchables

11-05-2008, 10:30 PM

And finally, this is one of the coolest opening scenes ever:

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(between about 1:30 and 5:00)
</EMBED>

mitchables

11-05-2008, 10:43 PM

<EMBED src=http://www.youtube.com/v/GJa7Hb0y0hw&hl=en&fs=1 width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></EMBED>

Point Settled

:mad:

You can't compare injured Ryu with full-strength Ken, he was at a clear disadvantage.

Besides, Ryu has beaten Ken in the past.

Also, he takes this dude out with a headbutt before wiping the floor with Fei Long:

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This one also contains the T-Hawk/Ken battle, which is awesome in its brevity. Don't get me wrong, I do like Ken, I just thought Ryu had been unfairly represented so far :(

mitchables

11-05-2008, 10:46 PM

Note what Ken says, by the way: "No one can stop me... except for Ryu" (6:20)

Straight from the horse's mouth.

Kalyx triaD

11-05-2008, 11:17 PM

Ken defeated Ryu in the second tourny (game continuity). As of SF3 Ken has the last win.

BigDaddyCool

11-06-2008, 10:52 AM

1) That animation is horrible.

2) Scorpion.

Gertner

11-06-2008, 12:07 PM

Ken was a bad ass.

Exyle

11-09-2008, 10:56 PM

Heyman

02-14-2009, 02:00 AM

Personal preference: I prefer playing with Ken rather than Ryu...and yes...I realize that sounded fucking gay. Keep in mind, I am only basing this opinion on Super Street Fighter II and Super Street Fighter II Turbo. I have not played the other Street Fighter Games enough times to have an opinion.

HOWEVER - Storyline wise, Ryu is the superior fighter. Ryu is the 'hero' of Street Fighter and so from a storyline perspective...I go with Ryu. Ken has motivation issues. :p

p.s. Based purely on SSF2 and SSF2T, I also think that Ryu has better music. Zangief's music is the most badass however. :cool:

02-14-2009, 02:21 AM

run in from Akuma

Kalyx triaD

02-14-2009, 08:00 AM

run in from Akuma

Screw Akuma. I played him for the last 9-10 years and he's gimmick in the end. Went back to my childhood pick, Ken.

Krimzon7

02-14-2009, 08:33 AM

Ken Own's ALL. He's a badass that is all rage and anger! I fucking love rage and anger!!! And Ken's a goddam american. America! Fuck Yeah!

Kalyx triaD

02-14-2009, 09:00 AM

Ken Own's ALL. He's a badass that is all rage and anger! I fucking love rage and anger!!! And Ken's a goddam american. America! Fuck Yeah!

What the Hell are you talking about?

Krimzon7

02-14-2009, 09:12 AM

I don't know, maybe I'm all rage and anger... But he is a bad ass, and he's american, so he still gets my vote! Its really fucking early here, and I needs me some egg mcmuffins!

Kalyx triaD

02-14-2009, 09:51 AM

I don't know, maybe I'm all rage and anger... But he is a bad ass, and he's american, so he still gets my vote! Its really fucking early here, and I needs me some egg mcmuffins!

You are something else.

DaveWadding

02-14-2009, 11:54 AM

nerdgasm.net

Kalyx triaD

02-14-2009, 11:58 AM

:mad:

Khuntry

02-15-2009, 01:20 AM

The answer lies in the heart of battle.....Ryu wins.....always

02-15-2009, 01:24 AM

What kind of gay shit is that?

Gerard

02-15-2009, 09:40 AM

Ryu, im suprised ken even fights for fear of messing his hair or nails up.

Kalyx triaD

02-15-2009, 12:15 PM

What kind of gay shit is that?

Ryu's quote from SF 4. Maybe watch a preview sometime. :roll:

02-15-2009, 12:26 PM

Ryu's quote from SF 4. Maybe watch a preview sometime. :roll:

stfu

Kalyx triaD

02-15-2009, 12:33 PM

Was it you I gave multiple knee-bashes to? Yeah I think it was.

02-15-2009, 12:36 PM

The sun was in my eyes.

Kalyx triaD

02-15-2009, 12:37 PM

We were in a night time stage.

02-15-2009, 12:42 PM

I was trying to play from 35ft away and I guess the controller went out of range.

dablackguy

02-15-2009, 12:53 PM

Since probably SSF 2 Ken's been the better offensive fighter (Street fighter 3 series included)

That said, I still prefer Ryu

Heyman

02-16-2009, 04:03 AM

http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/oct/17/street-fighter-4-tiers-character-rankings/

Ryu is ahead of Ken by a significant margin.

From a storyline perspective, there is no question as to who the better fighter is (Ryu)

On a personal note however, I enjoy playing with Ken more......:naughty:

D Mac

02-16-2009, 04:04 AM

The American is always better. :yes:

Fryza

02-16-2009, 02:53 PM

I believe Ken was player two, not player one- if you catch my drift.

Boomer

02-16-2009, 03:20 PM

I believe Ken was player two, not player one- if you catch my drift.

Some kind of pitcher-catcher analogy?

DaveBrawl

02-24-2009, 02:52 PM

Vega. :shifty:

Fignuts

02-24-2009, 03:29 PM

Evil Ryu > Ken > Ryu

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 03:43 PM

Did anyone see Sakura's SF4 ending?

Fignuts

02-24-2009, 03:45 PM

I did, but I forgot it already.

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 03:50 PM

Spoilers:

Sakura sees Ryu taking on that generator thing (following his ending) and she's knocked back by some of it's energy. While on the ground Sakura was pulsing with some reddish sparks that resembled Ryu's Metsu no Hadou effects (Dark Hadou).

Am I looking too much into it that Sakura may have been contaminated with the dark Hadou, possibly because of her adopting some Shoto techniques?

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 03:51 PM

This explains it better than me.

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Fignuts

02-24-2009, 03:53 PM

What the fuck was that dark hadou thing even doing there? Steet Fighter 2 and 3 actualy had good stories and endings for a japanese fighting game, but it definitely seems like they phoned this one in.

Fignuts

02-24-2009, 03:55 PM

Also in regards to sakura, dunno, looks kinda like it was just some risidual energy from getting hit.

MVP

02-24-2009, 04:12 PM

Ken because of the Dragon Punch

Super V

02-24-2009, 05:48 PM

You guys are all faggots :wavesad:

Fignuts

02-24-2009, 06:13 PM

You are posting on a proffesional wrestling messageboard.

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 08:34 PM

You guys are all faggots :wavesad:

*Sigh*

You have consistently failed to supply anything of value not just for my personal reading pleasure, but in general. You throw your crass statements around in some futile effort to discredit those who relish in geekdom. You are rude, ignorant, and without any form of empathy. Go now, to my list of Ignored Posters - population one. Now two.

Tell Kenny I said hi.

Fignuts

02-24-2009, 08:45 PM

To be fair, typing "sigh" DOES make you look like a huge fag.

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 09:10 PM

*Sigh*

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 09:55 PM

Kalyx triaD

02-24-2009, 10:08 PM

Offbeat, I really don't like the continued Americanized translation of Akuma and the Dark Hadou being 'evil'. Neither really are. Akuma's lines in SF4 hurt because of this. He's really just looking for a good fight. Some stuff his accurate, like him wanting Ryu to unleash his dark self.

The Dark Hadou plot is more interesting than the Shadoloo arc to me.

Kalyx triaD

03-18-2009, 01:06 AM

We are up in our necks in SF4, so updated analysis is at hand.

Ryu:

Plays like Super Turbo Ryu, back to basics (no Sweet Chin Music). Forward+Fierce combos into... anything. Almost nill recovery lag after fireballs.
Shoryuken>Focus Cancel>Ultra Fireball is dildos.
Should have retained Fake Fireball from HD Remix.
Alt. Costume is badass.

Ken:

Definitely 3rd Strike Ken. Tricky Kicks are there, including extremely useful Forward+Med Kick.
Fierce Shoryuken beats everything.
No reason to jump forward really. Still, Air Fierce Punch challenges Anti-Air (often trades damage). Very damaging Cross-Up possibilities.
Alt. Costume is gay, clearly meant for a shoveled new character concept.

Funky Fly

03-18-2009, 01:41 AM

No sweet chin music = gay. I dominated with Ryu in 3 thanks to that.

DrA

03-18-2009, 01:52 AM

Ken is a spoiled brat. Ryu earned his fighting skills the hard way.

Kalyx triaD

03-18-2009, 02:03 AM

No sweet chin music = gay. I dominated with Ryu in 3 thanks to that.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/ryu-hcfk.gif

They could have made it his Focus Attack.

Ken is a spoiled brat. Ryu earned his fighting skills the hard way.

lol What? They trained under the same master!