He's Broke, Kid.

[KingofOldSchool]

So who finds the "HBK is broke" angle pretty hilarious?

[thedamndest]

Not this man.
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[Kane Knight]

He's dead, Jim.

[KingofOldSchool]

Paul, I can't feel my legs.

[Londoner]

So who finds the "HBK is broke" angle pretty hilarious?

I do.

[Jeritron]

As long as it's revealed that he secretly spends his money on blow and hookers I'll buy it

[thedamndest]

I would like it if one of the "friends" he bought a house for was Marty Jannetty.

[Jeritron]

They should just say he gave all his salary to televangelists. It's probably based in truth.

[Funky Fly]

lol this angle is ridiculous.

Michaels is a lot less lame when he isn't "facing adversity" all the fucking time.

[Lux]

I do.

Seconded.

[Kane Knight]

So who finds the "HBK is broke" angle pretty hilarious?

I find any WWE attempt at topicality to be hilarious.

[Fox]

This really makes HHH look like an asshole. Dude is married to the bosses daughter and he wont even help out his Kliq teammate?

And how is HBK poor and still doing those DX commercials. He probably makes more doing those commercials than I have in the past 3 years.

Fuck you HBK. You're not poor.

[Kane Knight]

This really makes HHH look like an asshole. Dude is married to the bosses daughter and he wont even help out his Kliq teammate?

And how is HBK poor and still doing those DX commercials. He probably makes more doing those commercials than I have in the past 3 years.

Fuck you HBK. You're not poor.

LOL nitpick a little more?

[BigDaddyCool]

This really makes HHH look like an asshole. Dude is married to the bosses daughter and he wont even help out his Kliq teammate?

And how is HBK poor and still doing those DX commercials. He probably makes more doing those commercials than I have in the past 3 years.

Fuck you HBK. You're not poor.

HHH and Steh are kayfabe divorsed, and HHH is kayfabe paying child support, Steph has really good kayfabe lawyers. If anything it makes Nash look like a dick for not helping out HHH and HBM.

[erickman]

HHH and Steh are kayfabe divorsed, and HHH is kayfabe paying child support, Steph has really good kayfabe lawyers. If anything it makes Nash look like a dick for not helping out HHH and HBM.

that would be a good invasion angle, have trips and hbk owe nash and the mem money.

[The Mackem]

Nash is keeping Hall supplied with liquor, don't pin this on Nash!

[BigDaddyCool]

don't give me that shit, no one knows where Hall is execpt when he shows up.

[The Mackem]

Nash knows, he's playing everyone for fools.

[BigDaddyCool]

Anyhow, X-Pac can't help anyone.

[Kane Knight]

This really makes HHH look like an asshole. Dude is married to the bosses daughter and he wont even help out his Kliq teammate?

And how is HBK poor and still doing those DX commercials. He probably makes more doing those commercials than I have in the past 3 years.

Fuck you HBK. You're not poor.

Had to revisit this. You do know wrestling's fake, right? I mean, Undertaker is neither a zombie nor a MMA fighter, Kane isn't his brother, nobody is really wished well in their future endeavors, and John Cena and Randy Orton are probably lovers, not enemies.

But if we do want to get anal, medical bills are really crippling, and it's probably more believable that the Has-Been Kid is in debt up to his eyeballs than it is to believe most of the other current storylines.

[Dorkchop]

HBK should say the main reason he came back to wrestling was because we was broke. This could be a nice heel turn for HBK. Literally have him sell out. After a year he could find some money again, develop a massive ego again, lose all his money and be happier "broke" than he ever was rich.

I think this could have worked better with Goldust, but practically no one would care except for a few internet wrestling nerds.

[Xero]

They should do something with Ted Sr. He could bail Michaels out.

[KingofOldSchool]

Had to revisit this. You do know wrestling's fake, right? I mean, Undertaker is neither a zombie nor a MMA fighter, Kane isn't his brother, nobody is really wished well in their future endeavors, and John Cena and Randy Orton are probably lovers, not enemies.

But if we do want to get anal, medical bills are really crippling, and it's probably more believable that the Has-Been Kid is in debt up to his eyeballs than it is to believe most of the other current storylines.

I think this gimmick should have been used for Flair...

[IC Champion]

This really makes HHH look like an asshole. Dude is married to the bosses daughter and he wont even help out his Kliq teammate?

And how is HBK poor and still doing those DX commercials. He probably makes more doing those commercials than I have in the past 3 years.

Fuck you HBK. You're not poor.

LOL, that is awesome.

[parkmania]

At least King came on last night and mentioned that the DX promos were "filmed earlier", before the angle started.

[FourFifty]

This really makes HHH look like an asshole. Dude is married to the bosses daughter and he wont even help out his Kliq teammate?

And how is HBK poor and still doing those DX commercials. He probably makes more doing those commercials than I have in the past 3 years.

Fuck you HBK. You're not poor.

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[Juan]

lol

[KingofOldSchool]

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[Afterlife]

This angle is very smartarded.

[RVDmark]

This angle also makes WWE pay look a bit poor for top tier talent.

[James Steele]

John Cena and Randy Orton are probably lovers, not enemies.

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[thedamndest]

Randy Orton is poopy.

[Kane Knight]

This angle also makes WWE pay look a bit poor for top tier talent.

Totally. Coked out, injury-prone wrestlers are known for their financial stability.

[Vastardikai]

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John: RKO, can I lick your ass?

Randy: Lick my ass, bitch!

[Lux]

Is that Matt Hardy in the Warning V1 tee?

[Dave Youell]

Ok,

I’m going to try to get this back to the topic

Personally I like this angle, it’s relevant so people can relate to it, it’s a paint by numbers angle, but it should be fun, this could of just been thrown together to get a HBK/JBL feud for Mania since Pritchard let the cat out of the bag.

It’s effectively Virgil/Ted all over again, Michaels will help JBL win matches and get his bags etc, eventually he’ll be forced to make a choice between taking out HHH or someone and turn on JBL

It’s simple storytelling in a believable environment, HBK’s promo made it sound plausible that he would be broke, the whole thing is fine from where I’m sitting

[Kane Knight]

It's relevant in the same way the Diva Search and Tuff Enufffff were.

[Dave Youell]

It's relevant in the same way the Diva Search and Tuff Enufffff were.

Most people are effected in some way by the credit crunch, weather it be the price of stuff, if they’ve lost their job or if they’ve lost on investments on the markets, so it’s relevant to most people in some way or another.

I know/hope you’re being flippant about the diva search thing

[Kane Knight]

LOL you're kidding, right?

[Lux]

Ok,

I’m going to try to get this back to the topic

Personally I like this angle, it’s relevant so people can relate to it, it’s a paint by numbers angle, but it should be fun, this could of just been thrown together to get a HBK/JBL feud for Mania since Pritchard let the cat out of the bag.

It’s effectively Virgil/Ted all over again, Michaels will help JBL win matches and get his bags etc, eventually he’ll be forced to make a choice between taking out HHH or someone and turn on JBL

It’s simple storytelling in a believable environment, HBK’s promo made it sound plausible that he would be broke, the whole thing is fine from where I’m sitting

Why was my question ingored? :mad:

[Destor]

I think this angle is laughable since even the dumbest WWE mark knows HBM isn't broke.

[St. Jimmy]

This angle would work better if it was the OTHER rocker. Very believeable.

[Fox]

Had to revisit this. You do know wrestling's fake, right? I mean, Undertaker is neither a zombie nor a MMA fighter, Kane isn't his brother, nobody is really wished well in their future endeavors, and John Cena and Randy Orton are probably lovers, not enemies.

But if we do want to get anal, medical bills are really crippling, and it's probably more believable that the Has-Been Kid is in debt up to his eyeballs than it is to believe most of the other current storylines.

Uh, you're wrong. Mark Calloway is filed as a "Living Undead" on all of his tax forms and has been for the last decade (of destruction). Kane is his brother, but he is not a zombie, and does not get a tax cut for it, and Cena and Orton are not lovers, in fact, Orton put Cena on the sidelines not long ago (that's how much they hate each other).


Also, if HBK's medical bills have bankrupt him, then Cena should be in the fucking poorhouse.

[Fox]

IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, KANE KNIGHT!

[Fox]

Seriously though, has any else had the thought cross their mind that this angle might lead to HBK versus JBL at WrestleMania?

I'm not saying it's a good idea, but it's something the WWE would do (especially if they have some sort of alternate plan for Undertaker aside from UT versus HBK).

Think about it. HBK is JBL's reluctant bitch for a few months until he snaps and breaks their rule. JBL tries to make his life a living hell and drive him out of the WWE, and they make a match at Mania where the winner get a million dollars or some bullshit.

Bradshaw is an ex-Texan, now residing in New York City, which will draw huge heat from the Texas WM25 crowd, while HBK will garner the obvious face pops.

God I hope I'm wrong.

[Kane Knight]

I'm not sure who I'd cheer for. On the one hand, JBL was smart enough to leave Texas. On the other hand, leaving Texas means his belligerence and low IQ might spread.

[Fox]

If HBK starts carrying around a shoe shining box my opinion of this angle may change.

The visual of HBK shining Kane's boots is worth an easy 5.0 in the Nielsens.

[Afterlife]

Ok,

I’m going to try to get this back to the topic

Personally I like this angle, it’s relevant so people can relate to it, it’s a paint by numbers angle, but it should be fun, this could of just been thrown together to get a HBK/JBL feud for Mania since Pritchard let the cat out of the bag.

It’s effectively Virgil/Ted all over again, Michaels will help JBL win matches and get his bags etc, eventually he’ll be forced to make a choice between taking out HHH or someone and turn on JBL

It’s simple storytelling in a believable environment, HBK’s promo made it sound plausible that he would be broke, the whole thing is fine from where I’m sitting

But see, that's why it's so smartarded. It is stupid as hell to assume Shawn is outta cash. Hecan shell out all the "I gave my cash to my friends, I bought McCain numbers of houses and cars, I suddenly lost all my OTHER money in this horrible economy and I'm somehow not getting any monetary influx from my contract," he wants. He can stand there and do a RAW routine during the PPV, explaining in logical sounding fashion just how hefell on hard times. It might sound very possible.

And then you sit back and say, "Wait -- that's fucking stupid."

When you say something retarded in a very smart way to try to be convincing...that's being smartarded.

[Kane Knight]

Imagine if he started a new business on Raw, and each week, he tossed up new schemes to make money.

[Afterlife]

A Christian Scam Artist? It'd never work.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know this is leading towards HBK giving JBL the Sweet Chin Music, and going back to "I don't care, God will look after me somehow" Shawn Michaels, but I would love for this to lead to a full-blown heel turn for Shawn Michaels. HBK with his hair cut short, always wearing expensive business suits, and riding proudly in the limo with JBL would be incredible stuff.

Regardless, I'm hoping that this at least amounts to a backstage encounter with Chris Jericho, who calls HBK on finally smartening up and not listening to the fans anymore.

Speaking of Chris Jericho, while he and Randy Orton seemed aligned for one week, it was the most I've been interested in Randy Orton in some time. Jericho and Orton have often taken the same position on things recently -- even if they don't see eye-to-eye all the time. If Jericho and Orton had kept that relationship going, and forged one with JBL, to ensure that they are the powers that control RAW, this angle would be cooler, because you'd have Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, JBL & Shawn Michaels (reluctantly) as the top heel force of RAW.

They should do something with Ted Sr. He could bail Michaels out.

If we get some sort of stable facing Randy Orton's Legacy group, then Shawn Michaels would make a great face for it. Ted DiBiase would be a logical addition to the face side of things as well, and if he bailed out Shawn Michaels so he didn't need to work for JBL, it would put the fans on DiBiase's side a fair bit.

[James Steele]

I think the money angle would be HBK and DiBiase Sr. trying to bring Manu to Christ.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think the money angle would be HBK and DiBiase Sr. trying to bring Manu to Christ.

That would be money. "Manuel" could really move some t-shirts.

[Afterlife]

That would be money. "Manuel" could really move some t-shirts.

Or braziers.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Next week, I'm thinking that Shawn Michaels might help JBL win his match against Rey Mysterio...by kicking him in the face. That's the technical win via DQ for JBL, and HBK gets a little satisfaction by doing something I think we're meant to think his character wants to do.

[Kane Knight]

That certainly wouldn't conflict with his speeches or jeopardise his new-found income.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That certainly wouldn't conflict with his speeches or jeopardise his new-found income.

Whoa! You mean the WWE doesn't always make sense?!?! Get the fuck out. No, seriously, get the fuck out, KK.

[.44 Magdalene]

So wait, you're actually suggesting the WWE should make no sense on purpose?

Or... you're hoping it'll not make sense?

Or... you're guessing it won't make sense, thus being pessimistic...?


I don't know.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The small font gets it. I actually don't think it would be that bad, if rushing towards the ending of an HBK/JBL feud. But I don't want to see that go through to WrestleMania, either. The WWE is getting worse and worse at having things sorted in time for WrestleMania.

[Londoner]

I couldn't find HBK's promo at Armageddon believable at ALL.It wasn't the stuff he was saying,but you could tell he was talking shit.

[Kane Knight]

Whoa! You mean the WWE doesn't always make sense?!?! Get the fuck out. No, seriously, get the fuck out, KK.

Mmmm...More strawman....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mmmm...More strawman....

Care to explain to me why that's a straw-man? Because it seemed you were the one that went off and started talking about sense like it was relevant. Douche.

It's also sad that you seem to have a hunger for straw men. That would be one of the many things to cut out of your diet.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I couldn't find HBK's promo at Armageddon believable at ALL.It wasn't the stuff he was saying,but you could tell he was talking shit.

I get what you're saying. I think a lot of it, for me, anyway, was that they were grabbing at anything to make this angle make sense. And that they decide to finally tease the HBK heel thing again with JBL, of all people.

[Afterlife]

If we're lucky, we'll find out that HBM was lying to his loyal fans and just wanted the extra cash. That would totally make this angle work for me.

[Anybody Thrilla]

All of this is the fault of Shawn Michaels, really. Not for being broke, obviously, but if he would just toss aside his stupid Christian beliefs and get over himself, he could have a normal heel turn just like anybody else and they wouldn't have to come up with these ridiculous angles to soothe him. What a geek.

[Afterlife]

All of this is the fault of Shawn Michaels, really. Not for being broke, obviously, but if he would just toss aside his stupid Christian beliefs and get over himself, he could have a normal heel turn just like anybody else and they wouldn't have to come up with these ridiculous angles to soothe him. What a geek.

That's true. The point of playing a character is playing a cjaracter. Glen Jacobs doesn't really hook testicles to batteries. Michael Hickenbottom can be overbearingly Christian off the clock.