*Alienoid kills himself* The Official 2009 WWE Mass Release Thread

[KingofOldSchool]

by the WWE. And the thousands reading on the internet....LLLLLLLLLLLEEETT'S GET READY TO BE...ENDEAVOOOUURRRREEEDD!

According to several people we've spoken to today, there are expected to be WWE talents released as part of today's economic cutbacks. As soon as we confirm some of the names we've heard, we'll have them here on PWInsider.com.

D'lo Brown, Val Venis, Kevin Thorn, and Bam Neely are gone.

[Xero]

Jamie Noble
Ron Simmons
Jimmy Yang
Jesse
Festus
Burchill

Gonna say at least three from that list will be gone, assuming this isn't a developmental purging.

[Legend Killer]

by the WWE. And the thousands reading on the internet....LLLLLLLLLLLEEETT'S GET READY TO BE...ENDEAVOOOUURRRREEEDD!


Who wants to start the bidding?

:y: or :n:

Shannon Moore:

Ezekiel Jackson:

The Bella Twins:

MVP:

Mike Knox:

Manu:

Kizarny:

Val Venis?

[KingofOldSchool]

Shannon Moore was fired last summer.

[KingofOldSchool]

Also, I'm calling for...

Ryan Braddock
Gavin Spears
Scotty Goldman
Tiffany
D'lo Brown
Bam Neely

[Legend Killer]

Shannon Moore was fired last summer.
Let me rephrase that, I mean to put Brian Kendrick... They kind of look alike.
Thanks.

[KingofOldSchool]

Let me rephrase that, I mean to put Brian Kendrick... They kind of look alike.
Thanks.

Huh?

I must have missed that memo.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

It looks like Colt Cabana will be back in ROH soon....

[Destor]

Yay!

[Destor]

mixed with: :(

[Chavo Classic]

I'll bet my Kizhouse on Kizarny not being one of them

[Hanso Amore]

Basically, no on that is on TV.

TBK is safe, as is MVP.

Ryder and Hawkins will probably get canned.

Noble is an agent so probably not.

Same with Simmons.

The Burchills are done.

Sim Snuka. = gone

Bam neely= gone

[Lock Jaw]

I'm pulling for Venis and Helms to be released. Helms is probably a long shot right now.

[Destor]

Helms is def a long shot.

[Lock Jaw]

See, I've had this pool running since 2005. We each picked ten "superstars". Whoever has all of theirs released first wins. All I need to win is for Venis and Helms to be released.

[XL]

Also, I'm calling for...

Ryan Braddock
Gavin Spears
Scotty Goldman
Tiffany
D'lo Brown
Bam Neely
Seems like a decent shout. They're not doing anything with them after all.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I hope they don't fire Tiffany. She is ridiculously hot. Where the hell did she come from anyway?

[KingofOldSchool]

Val Venis has been fired.

[redoneja]

I hope they don't fire Tiffany. She is ridiculously hot. Where the hell did she come from anyway?

Diva Search

[Anybody Thrilla]

I want to have sex with her face.

[KingofOldSchool]

Instead of bite clubs, Kevin Thorn is going to start frequenting the unemployment line as he got his pink slip today as well.

[Anybody Thrilla]

NOOOOOOOOOOO! Kevin Thorn was almost sort of interesting for a few minutes! Man, so much wasted potential.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I guess Stevie got the last laugh in that feud....or wait, has he been fired yet?

[KingofOldSchool]

The WWE Universe message boards are rioting over D-lo's release.

[KingofOldSchool]

I guess Stevie got the last laugh in that feud....or wait, has he been fired yet?

He was fired in August.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Of what year?

[KingofOldSchool]

Of what year?

2012

[Anybody Thrilla]

Your clairvoyance is astounding.

[Afterlife]

I hate these reatrded threads. :n:

[Xero]

I hate these reatrded threads. :n:

Clearly you've missed something.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I've found this thread very informative thus far.

[St. Jimmy]

I love these threads.

[Xero]

You're no longer employed, Mr. White!

[KingofOldSchool]

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[ClockShot]

Mr. McMahon, that's wasn't very wise.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope they don't fire Tiffany. She is ridiculously hot. Where the hell did she come from anyway?

I actually hope so, too. She wants to train to wrestle, and she is very, very hot. Out of the Divas, I see Jillian Hall maybe being cut. Candice Michelle should go, too, but she won't.

D-Lo Brown and Bam Neely are gone, as are referees Mike Posey and Jimmy Korderas. The latest of those names actually surprises me. He's been with the WWE for years. :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's a shame about Val Venis, but it's an understandable cut. They don't really do anything with him, and he often spends a bit of time injured. This could be a blessing in disguise for him.

"Heeeeellllllllllloooo, Puerto Rico! Heh, heh, heh."

[Mr. Nerfect]

So far, the list currently stands as:

-Kevin Keenan
-Mike Posey
-D-Lo Brown
-Bam Neely
-Jimmy Korderas
-Val Venis

How Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Hardcore Holly and The Boogeyman have survived is beyond me.

[KingofOldSchool]

So far, the list currently stands as:

-Kevin Keenan
-Mike Posey
-D-Lo Brown
-Bam Neely
-Jimmy Korderas
-Val Venis

How Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Hardcore Holly and The Boogeyman have survived is beyond me.

Hacksaw is on a Pay Per Appearance deal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hacksaw is on a Pay Per Appearance deal.

Well maybe they should not pay him to appear?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm thinking of starting a collection so we can pay him NOT to appear.

[KingofOldSchool]

Well maybe they should not pay him to appear?

He still gets better reactions than a good 80% of the roster and it's not like he is on every show. So having him is more cost effective than keeping someone like Val who is under contract.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He still gets better reactions than a good 80% of the roster and it's not like he is on every show. So having him is more cost effective than keeping someone like Val who is under contract.

It's not like he out-popped DX. If the WWE wants someone who is over to come back and work a match now and then, they should get Scotty 2 Hotty.

[KingofOldSchool]

It's not like he out-popped DX. If the WWE wants someone who is over to come back and work a match now and then, they should get Scotty 2 Hotty.

Why does it matter?

He doesn't win and he's just there as a Legend who puts others over from time to time. Plus he is a bigger name than Scotty.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I wonder if they will put Hacksaw in the Rumble based solely on the fact that he won the first one.

[Shadow]

Lulz....Venis finally gets fired. Took 'em long enough.

[Dorkchop]

I think it would be funny if we went to TNA and decided he didn't want to be a jobber. Knowing TNA they'd give him a PPV title shot within 2 months.

[Theo Dious]

WWE can actually take this economic situation as an excuse to end the brand expansion.

How exactly do you think the brand split costs money?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think Dave is just clinging to some hope that all of the talent on one roster would just magically make everything better.

[KingofOldSchool]

I think Dave is just clinging to some hope that all of the talent on one roster would just magically make everything better.

Then he'll bitch because *insert random wrestler* isn't on television much anymore.

[Lux]

Bob Holly is still employed?!?

How?!?

[Hanso Amore]

How exactly do you think the brand split costs money?

Because they have to pay 2 sets of crew, agents, writers, producers, crew, wrestlers, announcers.

If they cant sell out, their costs outweigh their profits, and then they have to cut.

There are major TV costs, which is why they run ECW with another brand...to save money.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think the relationship between the talent cuts and a proposal to end the brand split would be the shrinking of the rosters. If enough talent is cut, then you may not have enough for separate brands, which would logically mean the current arrangement is not convenient.

[Kane Knight]

How exactly do you think the brand split costs money?

For that matter, what reason does he have to think they need or want an excuse?

Except wishful thinking.

It would also give them a chance to start booking well, but I doubt they think they need that, either.

[NeanderCarl]

Ending the brand split would mean half as many live events. Not a great way to make more money.

Even if they still run B-shows instead of, say, SmackDown shows (I know, I know...) they will still be tarnished with the "lesser show" label, although the Intercontinental title used to draw well on the B-Show circuit in the 80s. Doubt it would today unless it was worn by the likes of Batista or Jericho, which I'm sure would be a move derided by fans and the wrestlers as a step-down.

They've invested too heavily in the brand split for the last 7 years for it to end now, whether we like it or not. A large number of their current fans have probably never seen a WWE product that didn't have a divided roster.

[JT]

I guess the real look at it is this...is the amount of money that is brought in by two seperate rosters earn enough that two seperate rosters is effecient. The points have are making more money by holding two shows, but at the same time you are also using two seperate crews.

Now I say if you cut enough people you are going to keep the people who are more interesting to see and bring a better television product each week (well, I know history says otherwise, but I'm hoping for what I said to be true). If you have a better show, then chances are they will do better than 1 of the two seperate rosters. However, you are also once again taking in effect the amount of money given out to their crew and talent.

I think in the end it's hard to decide what is best to do without all the fact. It's even hard to decide what's good as a product...remember 7 years ago we were clammering for the seperate rosters because it would help showcase wrestlers we like but didn't get airtime...and yet that didn't happen. Bringing the roster's back together might be a little more interesting at first, until wrestlers who do get showcased now (Jericho, CM Punk, Legacy, etc) get no airtime for the likes of HHH, John Cena, and Batista.

[Kane Knight]

They've invested too heavily in the brand split for the last 7 years for it to end now, whether we like it or not.

And that is the only real point that matters. There are a bunch of pros to this as far as WWE is concerned. There are certainly cons, even in their minds. But being able to market "Raw" and "Smackdown" house shows is more beneficial than the "TV tapings" and "Also rans." That alone is probably going to keep things going. That and Triple H probably doesn't want to work Mondays.

[Savio]

2009 diva search come early?

[Mercury Bullet]

Val could be main eventing on Impact! within the next 3 months.

[KingofOldSchool]

Mike Kruel and Gavin Spears got the pink slip as well.

[NeanderCarl]

Now I say if you cut enough people you are going to keep the people who are more interesting to see and bring a better television product each week (well, I know history says otherwise, but I'm hoping for what I said to be true). If you have a better show, then chances are they will do better than 1 of the two seperate rosters. However, you are also once again taking in effect the amount of money given out to their crew and talent.


The days when ratings were the be-all-and-end-all for WWE pretty much died along with WCW. I mean, of course they still matter... bad ratings would risk the show getting cancelled which would be disasterous, and the more people watching equals more potential consumers... but television is pretty much mainly a 2 hour advertisement for WWE products (yes, that includes the wrestlers) and live events, with a paint-by-numbers wrestling show built around it.

WWE is a touring company making most of its money on the road. They won't end the brand split to create better television because having a tremendous TV show hasn't mattered since 2001. Keeping the TV show afloat enough to showcase the talent and conflicts so that people will buy PPVs and go see the live event when it comes to their city is the main priority.

Two touring groups equals double the earning potential for the company, and having the two distinct brands to advertise said shows keeps things clear and consise in promoting them.

[GD]

Then he'll bitch because *insert random wrestler* isn't on television much anymore.

:wavesad: I guess you are right...my bad.

[Kane Knight]

Val could be main eventing on Impact! within the next 3 months.

As Mike Magina, no doubt.

[Legend Killer]

Val Venis has been fired.

So much for me saying Val Venis had Job Security...

[Anybody Thrilla]

He might be able to get a job AS security. Maybe in a mall or something.

[Jeritron]

He might be able to live off social security

[Jeritron]

I wonder if Noid will finally come to grips with the fact that it's just not going to happen for Val Venis

[Kane Knight]

He might be able to get a job AS security. Maybe in a mall or something.

He can bring his own handcuffs. :naughty:

[thedamndest]

Give it a week. We will start seeing "Val Venis jumps the barricade" scenarios. They will all feature Val Venis with some kind of a rugged beard.

[Kane Knight]

By "scenarios" do you mean they will be on TV, or some sort of Noidflic?

[KingofOldSchool]

By "scenarios" do you mean they will be on TV, or some sort of Noidflic?

Well both London and Val ARE unemployed now...

[Kane Knight]

Well both London and Val ARE unemployed now...

Oh dear GOD!

[Haze]

Well both London and Val ARE unemployed now...

And introducing...THE NEW...TNA TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS...

Paul England...And Sean Morley!

[Jeritron]

Oh god now we're going to get a Val Venis, Paul Birchill, Paul London nWo storyline

[Jeritron]

Of course Paul Birchill will flip it on it's heels when he tells WWE audiences, "You know why I'm here, but you don't know who I am"

[Kane Knight]

Oh god now we're going to get a Val Venis, Paul Birchill, Paul London nWo storyline

Then they could be moved to ECW, so they can cause havoc on both shows...

Errr...Sorry. Reflex.

Sadly, a WWE jobber family in TNA would actually dominate.

[Jeritron]

Val Venis' debut could be their Bash at the Beach

[Jeritron]

Basham at the Beach

[Jeritron]

Now I'm just giving him ideas

[KingofOldSchool]

TNA present's "Turning Venis" LIVE on PPV!

[Kane Knight]

Half of TNA's PPVs could be turned into Venis innuendos with no effort.

[Haze]

Final Destination....Venis!

:shifty:

[Xero]

TNA Against All Broads
TNA Destination Sex
TNA Slamherverily
TNA Bound for Glory Hole

[Xero]

TNA should give him the Ron Simmons gimmick, except he pops up and says "Helloooooo TNA" every time someone makes an innuendo.

[Haze]

Certainly gives the Impact Zone a whole new meaning..

[Haze]

TNA should give him the Ron Simmons gimmick, except he pops up and says "Helloooooo TNA" every time someone makes an innuendo.

What do we start the betting odds at for that one?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mike Kruel and Gavin Spears got the pink slip as well.

They were two developmental talents I actually liked. Shame.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA Against All Broads
TNA Destination Sex
TNA Slamherverily
TNA Bound for Glory Hole

One of those is good. I'll let you guess which.

[The Optimist]

Slamherverily

[Destor]

They were al pretty good

[.44 Magdalene]

Yeah, I think I chuckled the most at Against All Broads



But I was impressed by Bound for Glory Hole

[DrA]

Hahaha I bet Alienoid is going to kill himself since Val Venis got released.

[Kane Knight]

Who's this Alienoid?

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

But I was impressed by Bound for Glory Hole
That was thrown around as a possible C-Fed PPV name a couple of years ago.

[KingofOldSchool]

Avoid The Noid, he ruins message boards.

http://www.paunchstevenson.com/photos/dominos-noid-250x309.jpg

[Kane Knight]

Avoid The Noid, he ruins message boards.

http://www.paunchstevenson.com/photos/dominos-noid-250x309.jpg

Only difference is, that Noid you can actually stop.