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GD
04-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Source: tpww.net

Cena Takes Another Shot At Rock, Cringes At Own Merchandise
By Ryan Clark on Saturday, April 11th, 2009 at 3:15 PM EST

The latest issue of ESPN: The Magazine has an interview with John Cena called “7 Things You Should Know About Being a WWE Superstar.” Here is the interview in its entirety:

7 Things You Should Know About Being a WWE Superstar

1. Writers write, fighters fight.
“I see myself as an actor, and I choose not to have much input in my story. So I find out only a few hours before the broadcast what will happen. The creative team doesn’t know inside-the-ring stuff, though. They tell us who’s going to win or be disqualified and we take it from there.”

2. I had to find myself.
“One of the big reasons for my success is I get to be me. At first, I was a white rapper thug from the mean streets of West Newbury, Mass. Some fans hated me but that’s how it goes. We have guys who save the day and others who deserve to get hit. But once I got in the door, I spent the next four years tranforming into John Cena.”

3. We’re more than just action figures.
“I try to manage my likeness, but the WWE does a lot of licensing, so I end up seeing a lot of products that make me cringe. I’m all for merchandising, but John Cena car floor mats or nesting dolls don’t seem right.”

4. En Garde? Always.
“Most people I meet try to wrestle me. It happens at least once a day - especially at the airport. When I’m carrying the champion’s belt in my bag, it usually leads to a ‘random’ search. Everyone crowds around, and someone says, “Let’s fight.” I’m like, “I’m just trying to catch a flight.”

5. There are no timeouts.
“I once tore a pectoral muscle doing a routine hip throw. There was 18 minutes left in the fight. I figured since I was going to the hospital afterward anyway, I might as well finish. You think it’s all painless, but this stuff can hurt extremely badly.”

6. Things change - unless they don’t.
“Consumers are smarter now, so we admit what we do is entertainment. And we’ve changed programming. But the bones are the same. Pro wrestling like action films, is still about good vs. evil.”

7. I won’t bite the hand.
“A lot of wrestlers reach a point where they feel it’s not cool to be in WWE. Not me. I can do movies and work full-time here. Why would I ever say it’s not good enough?”

Gerard
04-11-2009, 05:33 PM
Yeah cena, or should i say captain bland needs to fuck up. Johnson made a career choice for better money, less time on the road and not being half crippled in later years.

Id say if cena was being offered $10-$15 million for movie roles he'd drop WWE at the drop of a hat, unfortunately for us thats not gonna happen though.

GD
04-11-2009, 05:36 PM
Looks like the WWE hired a loyal dog (nothing wrong with that). But the fact of the matter is that we all know that Dwayne is not coming back and Cena's whining is getting a little bit lack luster.

Gerard
04-11-2009, 05:38 PM
Looks like the WWE hired a loyal dog (nothing wrong with that). But the fact of the matter is that we all know that Dwayne is not coming back and Cena's whining is getting a little bit lack luster.

As well as the official wwe bore he seems to be the official wwe crybaby. I dunno wtf Johnson leaving has to do with cena taking some kind of "personal offence".

Kane Knight
04-11-2009, 06:47 PM
Even I think you guys are being too harsh.

The Gold Standard
04-11-2009, 06:50 PM
I am not a fan of Cena, but I think he is right in this. Why should The Rock just cut off the place where he was made. I know he is not coming back, but he is making it seem like his wrestling days never happened.

Scott Delaney
04-11-2009, 06:54 PM
I am not a fan of Cena, but I think he is right in this. Why should The Rock just cut off the place where he was made. I know he is not coming back, but he is making it seem like his wrestling days never happened.


I completely agree. It's almost as if The Rock is embarrassed by his 'roots.' I get the fact that The Rock wanted to make a career change from wrestling to acting. I get the fact that it's false of Cena to say that Rocky's passion was always acting (I think it had more to do with the fact that The Rock's passion grew into something else).

However, I think it's messed up that The Rock barely even acknowledges his time in the WWE....and doesn't do anything whatsoever to support the industry or the company nowadays.

GD
04-11-2009, 06:56 PM
I completely agree. It's almost as if The Rock is embarrassed by his 'roots.' I get the fact that The Rock wanted to make a career change from wrestling to acting. I get the fact that it's false of Cena to say that Rocky's passion was always acting (I think it had more to do with the fact that The Rock's passion grew into something else).

However, I think it's messed up that The Rock barely even acknowledges his time in the WWE....and doesn't do anything whatsoever to support the industry or the company nowadays.

Yeah man Dwayne needs to take pride from where he comes from.

The Gold Standard
04-11-2009, 06:56 PM
I would probably do the same thing Rock did in taking the money, but I would not just leave out the old part of my life. I would not make it seem like it didn't happen. That's what the Rock did.

Scott Delaney
04-11-2009, 06:57 PM
What would you do if you were given a better pay and a safe job?

I would take it but I also wouldn't completely turn my back on the compeny that helped me become a star. I would be loyel and suport my old company on random occassion. I would also be clear to make the distinction of saying "I love wrestling" with "I love(d) wrestling."

GD
04-11-2009, 07:00 PM
He needs to acknowledge FUCKING WRESTLING! . End of story.

Xero
04-11-2009, 07:01 PM
I would take it but I also wouldn't completely turn my back on the compeny that helped me become a star. I would be loyel and suport my old company on random occassion. I would also be clear to make the distinction of saying "I love wrestling" with "I love(d) wrestling."


Hey man, that would be a good strategy.

GD
04-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Teenage Mutant Canadian Hindu, that would be a good strategy.

*fixed* :y:

Scott Delaney
04-11-2009, 07:03 PM
Hey man, that would be a good strategy.

It would be brilliant kind of like when your daddy lubes your ass before inserting his meat! :lol:

Xero
04-11-2009, 07:05 PM
Why is every fucking moron and/or sock resorting to homosexual slurring? Is this Web 1.0?

Hey man, get some original material.

RP
04-11-2009, 07:10 PM
John Cena is amazing

Theo Dious
04-11-2009, 07:16 PM
Even I think you guys are being too harsh.

Shh. They only just found out that Cena-bashing is "cool."

GD
04-11-2009, 07:16 PM
John Cena is amazing

He's like a scalded dog running in an ass kicking competition with a broken freakin' neck.

Xero
04-11-2009, 07:19 PM
Shh. They only just found out that Cena-bashing is "cool."

Pfft, anyone cutting edge would know it's all about Kofi Kingston bashing.

BOOP BOOP's gotta stop holding people down.

Xero
04-11-2009, 07:20 PM
I don't blame Cena, for the record. It's obviously just Vince being butthurt over Rock.

If you think Cena has control over what he says in a big media outlet like ESPN you're crazy. WWE controls that shit very closely.

Johnny Vegas
04-11-2009, 07:29 PM
lol it could all be kayfabe that leads to a Cena/Rock match at a WrestleMania

GD
04-11-2009, 07:32 PM
lol it could all be kayfabe that leads to a Cena/Rock match at a WrestleMania

Halailiya to that.

Theo Dious
04-11-2009, 07:34 PM
I will say this... I wouldn't fault the Rock too much for going off to Hollywood, except for this:

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For those of you who can't be arsed to watch it, there's a whole lot of shit in there about the Rock going on about how WWE is his home and he'll always be about WWE... yeah, look where he is now. You can say what you want about "it's a promo" or whatever, but pay close attention. That's an unscripted promo involving Dwayne Johnson telling the audience what's what. Apparently. You don't want to wrestle anymore, FINE, but for him to go spouting all of that business and a few years later appear on WWE programming to promote his most recent film, with the words "Hi WWE fans, this is Dwayne Johnson," it's going to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

As for Cena, it's perfectly okay by me for him to remind te fans that he wants to stay in WWE. Cena isn't the darling of all fans, or even as many as the Rock was. It's perfectly reasonable that the fans might think that, as Cena keeps doing movies, he'll eventually make the same transfer that Mr. Johnson did. I'm no fan of Cena's last few years, but he does his job and puts everything into it. He's going to be around for a long time yet, because he's a reliable worker, and because he seems far less likely to run off to Hollywood or MMA or any of it, and less likely to shit in a bag or publicly embarass himself, than a lot of guys out there.

While I'm on a roll (and decently buzzed,) look at the track record of guys WWE has tried to hang their hat on in the past few years. Eddie Gurrerro & Chris Benoit: both dead. RVD: smoked his main event push out the door. Brock Lesnar: quit. Angle: went nuts. Lashley... I'm not entirely sure how to describe his departure, but he definitely didn't cut it. I wish as much as anyone that Cena were pushed in a sensible and tolerable fashion, but you little sycophants dangling from the nutsack of the IWC need to shut up already.

thedamndest
04-11-2009, 07:38 PM
What is it that everyone wants The Rock to do to support wrestling roots? Hang a big neon sign from himself that blinks "I USED TO WRESTLE!" when he gives interviews pertaining to his movie career?

He made a business decision, and everyone seems to have accepted that he isn't coming back. Why is it so hard to accept that he isn't even the Rock anymore? The Rock was a character that he created in the WWE and now he had dropped it to be Duane Johnson. Would you really insist that Emilio Estevez be called Coach Gordon Bombay for the rest of his life because you love the Mighty Ducks?

GD
04-11-2009, 07:47 PM
What is it that everyone wants The Rock to do to support wrestling roots? Hang a big neon sign from himself that blinks "I USED TO WRESTLE!" when he gives interviews pertaining to his movie career?

He made a business decision, and everyone seems to have accepted that he isn't coming back. Why is it so hard to accept that he isn't even the Rock anymore? The Rock was a character that he created in the WWE and now he had dropped it to be Duane Johnson. Would you really insist that Emilio Estevez be called Coach Gordon Bombay for the rest of his life because you love the Mighty Ducks?


If Bill Gates starts selling condoms, viagras and sex toys we will never forget that he had Microsoft.

Verbose Minch
04-11-2009, 08:20 PM
What is it that everyone wants The Rock to do to support wrestling roots? Hang a big neon sign from himself that blinks "I USED TO WRESTLE!" when he gives interviews pertaining to his movie career?

He made a business decision, and everyone seems to have accepted that he isn't coming back. Why is it so hard to accept that he isn't even the Rock anymore? The Rock was a character that he created in the WWE and now he had dropped it to be Duane Johnson. Would you really insist that Emilio Estevez be called Coach Gordon Bombay for the rest of his life because you love the Mighty Ducks?

Would anybody really care if Emilio Estevez was called Coach Gordon Bombay?

Theo Dious
04-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Would anybody really care if Emilio Estevez was called Coach Gordon Bombay?

Yeah that is a pretty lame comparison really. There's a difference, a pretty big one, between a movie actor and a wrestler. Look at it this way; when the Rock did a personal appearance working for WWE, was he advertised as Dwayne Johnson, or the Rock? Was Austin Steve Williams, or Stone Cold Steve Austin? Etc, etc.

Mr. Nerfect
04-11-2009, 09:12 PM
lol it could all be kayfabe that leads to a Cena/Rock match at a WrestleMania

Bingo. :shifty:

Mr. Nerfect
04-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Tedious, I don't get your point. They are all characters portrayed by people. Dwayne Johnson doesn't want to be Dwayne Johnson portraying The Rock portraying Captain Kangaroo for the rest of his life.

Besides, most people still know him as The Rock. Whenever one of Johnson's movies come out, I hear that it "has The Rock in it." I just heard a radio advertisement yesterday for The Race to Witch Mountain "starring The Rock." His past is following him, he doesn't need to constantly talk about wrestling. It's not like the guy has never done an appearance with the WWE since he left the company, either.

His last one was about two years ago. That's not too fucking long when you think about it. Between making movies, spending time with your family, and doing appearances to promote your movies, that time would just evaporate before your eyes. Johnson has been getting pretty consistent work as an actor. If Johnson gets some down time, just see what he does.

mike adamle
04-11-2009, 10:37 PM
12 rounds!

Xero
04-11-2009, 10:45 PM
Thanks mike adamle.

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Lock Jaw
04-12-2009, 12:41 AM
What is it that everyone wants The Rock to do to support wrestling roots? Hang a big neon sign from himself that blinks "I USED TO WRESTLE!" when he gives interviews pertaining to his movie career?

He should get a WWE Logo tattooed on his forehead as a constant reminder to people. It is the least he could do. ANYTHING ELSE IS UNACCEPTABLE. :mad::mad::mad:

Fox
04-12-2009, 01:30 AM
LIST OF THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED
1. Chris Benoit
2. WWF
3. Ultimo Dragon slipping at WrestleMania
4. Rey Mysterio World Title victory
5. The Rock

Sting Fan
04-12-2009, 05:47 AM
As for Cena, it's perfectly okay by me for him to remind te fans that he wants to stay in WWE. Cena isn't the darling of all fans, or even as many as the Rock was. It's perfectly reasonable that the fans might think that, as Cena keeps doing movies, he'll eventually make the same transfer that Mr. Johnson did. I'm no fan of Cena's last few years, but he does his job and puts everything into it. He's going to be around for a long time yet, because he's a reliable worker, and because he seems far less likely to run off to Hollywood or MMA or any of it, and less likely to shit in a bag or publicly embarass himself, than a lot of guys out there.

While I'm on a roll (and decently buzzed,) look at the track record of guys WWE has tried to hang their hat on in the past few years. Eddie Gurrerro & Chris Benoit: both dead. RVD: smoked his main event push out the door. Brock Lesnar: quit. Angle: went nuts. Lashley... I'm not entirely sure how to describe his departure, but he definitely didn't cut it. I wish as much as anyone that Cena were pushed in a sensible and tolerable fashion, but you little sycophants dangling from the nutsack of the IWC need to shut up already.


:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

GD
04-12-2009, 05:50 AM
LIST OF THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED
1. Chris Benoit
2. WWF
3. Ultimo Dragon slipping at WrestleMania
4. Rey Mysterio World Title victory
5. The Rock

6. Moh'd Hasaan.

7. Jericho's WWF Championship win on Raw.

Sixx
04-12-2009, 12:40 PM
I`ve heard he`s a pretty down to earth guy, still those remarks about Rock are far ridicilous. Besides, I always hated this White Gangster Marine (WTF) gimmick. Go spin your belt army wigger.

Kane Knight
04-12-2009, 09:38 PM
I am not a fan of Cena, but I think he is right in this. Why should The Rock just cut off the place where he was made. I know he is not coming back, but he is making it seem like his wrestling days never happened.

No he's not. That's entitlement speaking. He's not erasing them, he's just moving on. As long as he keeps the wrestling name and motif, he's just a novelty.

Why is every fucking moron and/or sock resorting to homosexual slurring? Is this Web 1.0?

Hey man, get some original material.

Did a Kliw member just say that? :rofl:

Shh. They only just found out that Cena-bashing is "cool."

Nah. They've just got so fed up with Cena they're down to nitpicking.

Next week: John Cena's " You Can't See Me"--degrading to blind people!

Jaded-Dragon
04-12-2009, 09:57 PM
Yeah man Dwayne needs to take pride from where he comes from.

Yeah, ...Because I always throw out props to Domino's pizza for giving me my first job.

Didn't he make several appearences after leaving when he didn't have to do so?


Get over it, he was great in the ring and on the mic and most certainly would of gone down as quite possibly the best ever. But that's now what he wanted. He's not the first wrestler to try acting, but he is the frist to be really successful at it.

You can't tell me that if Hogan could actually act that he wouldn't of left for good in 1994.

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 09:59 PM
Yeah, ...Because I always throw out props to Domino's pizza for giving me my first job.

Did Domino's make you a worldwide star? Is Domino's solely responsible for you having a fantastic career today? Has Domino's given you everything you have?

If the answer to any of that is yes, then that is very, very sad.

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:04 PM
Mark Walhberg needs to take more pride in the Funky Bunch and the New Kids on the Block.

Kane Knight
04-12-2009, 10:20 PM
Did Domino's make you a worldwide star? Is Domino's solely responsible for you having a fantastic career today? Has Domino's given you everything you have?

If the answer to any of that is yes, then that is very, very sad.

You're taking the piss, right?

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:21 PM
I mean why does he call himself Mark Wahlberg for TV appearances and shit instead of Marky Mark


Gotta remember your roots and shit

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:21 PM
Completely turned his back on them etc

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 10:23 PM
You're taking the piss, right?

Look I drank of lot of water this afternoon.

Wait, you said THE piss, not A piss... :shifty:

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 10:25 PM
I mean why does he call himself Mark Wahlberg for TV appearances and shit instead of Marky Mark

See in that case he's actually trying to distance himself from being a white rapper with his pants halfway to his god damn ankles. Are you saying that the Rock is trying to distance himself from wrestling? Because I think that's close to the heart of this.

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:25 PM
Pidgeot just keeps driving

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm saying that Marky Mark owes nothing more to the Funky Bunch than provided and the Rock owes nothing more to the WWE than provided

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:27 PM
I know the Funky Bunch and the WWE aren't the same, we're on a wrestling forum after all



But I'm sure somebody somewhere takes the New Kids on the Block as seriously as some folks do Dwaye Johnson not wrestling anymore.

The Chris Rosa
04-12-2009, 10:31 PM
Mark Walhberg needs to take more pride in the Funky Bunch and the New Kids on the Block.



LMAO!

I just can't wait for the day that the 11x World Champ, Cena, realizes that he's done it all, and being the driven person that he is... Somehow gets bored and wants to explore new things.

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 10:37 PM
I know the Funky Bunch and the WWE aren't the same, we're on a wrestling forum after all



But I'm sure somebody somewhere takes the New Kids on the Block as seriously as some folks do Dwaye Johnson not wrestling anymore.

Right... the Rock owes his Hollywood career to his time in WWE... and Wahlberg has to downplay his time as a rapper to legitimize himself. Totally the same thing.

And as much as it hurts to be ABLE to point this out, it was DONNY Wahlberg in the New Kids, not Mark.

I'm going to go shower now so I can feel less dirty.

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:39 PM
Mark was also one of the original members, unless Wikipedia is lying to me on the most bizarre of circumstances.

So you think the Rock constantly playing into his old wrestling career wouldn't hurt his legitimacy as an actor at all?

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Alternatively, you think Mark would have hit stardom in movies so quickly if he hadn't had any past affiliation with the music industry to get his name out?

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 10:43 PM
Mark was also one of the original members, unless Wikipedia is lying to me on the most bizarre of circumstances.

That's equivalent to a football player being cut from a team during preseason.

And, again, the Rock's wrestling career got him into Hollywood. Marky Mark got into movies DESPITE his rapping.

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 10:45 PM
Alternatively, you think Mark would have hit stardom in movies so quickly if he hadn't had any past affiliation with the music industry to get his name out?

In a foot-in-the-door kind of way, it probably helped him, yeah. But he had to completely erase his image and change his name to pull it off. Nobody was sitting in a board room saying "who should we put in a movie?" "Fuckin' Marky Mark, man, we need some good vibrations in this project!" Wahlberg had to reinvent himself to get into movies. The Rock got into movies as a capitalization on his popularity.

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:48 PM
And the Rock getting legitimate roles in decent movies as a real and serious actor would not at all be hindered by constantly throwing bones to professional wrestling (during a particular down period, I might add)?

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:51 PM
Also, Mark quit the band for image reasons, reportedly

Scott Delaney
04-12-2009, 10:53 PM
Cena is still the best in the business. It's impossible to have seen enough when you "can't see him" in the first place. :D

People can attack Cena all they want but at the end of the day, he is the biggest draw for the WWE. At the end of the day, he is the most charismatic superstar in the WWE. At the end of the day, he is the WWE's #1 guy. At the end of the day, he has the rispect of everyone in the WWE lockerroom....including your mom's. :lol:

HeartBreakMan2k
04-12-2009, 10:55 PM
Gotta be honest, I think a lot of you guys just bitch so incessantly just for the sake of bitching.

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 10:55 PM
Answer me this: what roles is the Rock going to be gunning for that anyone is going to say "we can't give this part to that guy, he was a wrestler!" As far as quality output, Hollywood is in at least as much of a downturn as wrestling. If they put Savage in a bit role in Spider-Man, who's going to hesitate to cast Johnson further up the bill? If anything is keeping him out of bigger roles, I'd guess it has more to do with the fact that he isn't fully developed as a serious wrestler.

And again, I really fell out on this side of the argument when he appeared on WWE TV and say "Hi, I'm Dwayne Johnson." "Well hi Dwayne, Im Joe Gofuckyourself."

Scott Delaney
04-12-2009, 10:58 PM
Answer me this: what roles is the Rock going to be gunning for that anyone is going to say "we can't give this part to that guy, he was a wrestler!" As far as quality output, Hollywood is in at least as much of a downturn as wrestling. If they put Savage in a bit role in Spider-Man, who's going to hesitate to cast Johnson further up the bill? If anything is keeping him out of bigger roles, I'd guess it has more to do with the fact that he isn't fully developed as a serious wrestler.

And again, I really fell out on this side of the argument when he appeared on WWE TV and say "Hi, I'm Dwayne Johnson." "Well hi Dwayne, Im Joe Gofuckyourself."


Waht the fuck are you even trying to say? You don't even make any since! :lol:

Seriously.

Shut the fuck up Fart Tedius.

.44 Magdalene
04-12-2009, 10:59 PM
I can name off white rappers in movies, too. I don't see Randy Savage or really, any other major wrestling names starring in huge films--obviously, that's more of a talent issue than a "they were wrestlers" thing, but without any other examples to go off, we can't really tell whether his shot at movie stardom would be impaired or not by his wrestling history. I think there might actually be quite a few more "But he was a wrestler" parts than suspected.

Plus, continuing to throw back to WWE might make him seem like he's hopelessly clinging on. As much as people bitch about Hulk's "one last match" nonsense, I'm sure the Rock might be hesitant to walk down that road. Really, it's nearly an accomplishment that he actually walked away and hasn't found himself bloatedly stumbling back into the show for one last paycheck.

Theo Dious
04-12-2009, 11:00 PM
Waht the fuck are you even trying to say? You don't even make any since! :lol:

Seriously.

Shut the fuck up Fart Tedius.

Am I expected to waste my fingertips actually addressing this?

Also thank you for proving that you're a sock.

Sixx
04-13-2009, 02:17 AM
Cena is the Marky Mark of WWE.

RP
04-13-2009, 02:31 AM
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Kane Knight
04-13-2009, 04:39 PM
Right... the Rock owes his Hollywood career to his time in WWE... and Wahlberg has to downplay his time as a rapper to legitimize himself. Totally the same thing.

And as much as it hurts to be ABLE to point this out, it was DONNY Wahlberg in the New Kids, not Mark.

I'm going to go shower now so I can feel less dirty.Okay, so you are taking the piss.

Theo Dious
04-13-2009, 06:44 PM
Okay, so you are taking the piss.

You, Sir, are coming fairly close to tracking feces all over my gimmick. :mad:

Kane Knight
04-13-2009, 08:10 PM
I don't think we need a "guy who acts like an entitled thirteen year old" gimmick. Especially since we have so many of the real deal here.