Better Wrestler #82

[Jeritron]

Ultimo Dragon moves past again, but this round he'll have to take on a Horseman.



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Ultimo Dragon


VS

http://theghostofmoonlightgraham.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/barry_windham.jpg
Barry Windham


3 days.




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[Jeritron]

I will now be repping everyone who explains their vote, or adds to the discussion.

I realized that I was pretty lazy about it, and I'd like to encourage more talk through e-bribes

[Juan]

Both of these guys were pretty bad ass in their own right, but as far as my definition of *better wrestler* goes, Ultimo wins again.

[Dorkchop]

Windham never did anything for me. I've always enjoyed Ultimo's work, but I'm not going to pretend that I've seen all of his matches around the world. What I've seen I've mostly enjoyed. WCW cruiserweight matches were usually something to look forward to.

[Dr. Abyss]

I am going with Ultimo Dragon I enjoy his style alot more than Windhams.

[Krimzon7]

This is tough. I love Windham, hell he was a Horseman! Even with that being said, I have to give Ultimo credit for being totally awesome. If I could vote meh in this forum, I'd do it out of respect for both. I think Windham was a good Hoss, and Ultimo was a good cruiserweight. I will go for the guy who was a horseman.

[RatedGSuperstar]

I'll go with Ultimo, but I'm a sucker for cruiser matches and rocked the shit out of everyone in WCW/NWO Revenge with him, so I might be biased.

[Nark Order]

I'm voting Windham here. I always just 'got' him for lack of a better term. I loved his smash mouth brawler style, and he's one of the guys that really revolutionized that style. He's one of the guys that made you believe it was real, nothing he ever did looked fake. However, I think that might be partly due to him being pretty stiff.

[The Gold Standard]

Ultimo Dragon. The only reason is I have not seen too much of Windham

[Storer50]

Going with Ultimo. The Cruiserweight/x division/Lightweight style is my favorite, and Ultimo was one of the guys to get me hooked on it.

[TSI]

dragon gets my vote. That guy is always in top form no matter where he is

[Rammsteinmad]

Barry Windham. I gotta admit I haven't seen enough of Ultimo Dragon, yet I've seen a lot of Windham. Also I'm a 4 Horsemen mark.

Anyways, the score now is 15-4 to Dragon, so my vote didn't really matter anyway.

[Stealth-Icon]

Got to go with the Horsemen on this. Windham

[4 knuckles up]

Ultimo, hands down. He's a true master of his craft, and you'll need a bigger name than Barry to knock ultimo out of contention.

[DaveBrawl]

Ultimo. Windham's stuff was good, but Ultimo was just amazing to watch.

[AJHayes]

This one was difficult. As was stated previously, Windham made it believable. But, I think that Ultimo just had something "cool" about him. Even though Windham was a horseman, and it is not easy to vote against one, I gave Ultimo a slight edge in this one.

This was largely due to the dragon sleeper, tbh. It's just a cool move.

[Executioner]

I think Dragon was a great wrestler...but i was raised on the Iron Claw, the Lariat, and the Superplex...Im going with Windham here. His matches with Flair, Bam Bam Bigelow, and Luger were awesome. I still give Ultimo Dragon big credit for his work.

Edit: WHOOOHOOO 300 posts!

[Testicle]

Going with Ultimo. I think that he had a much greater impact on wrestling than Windham because he changed how junior heavywieght wrestlers were, and was one of the wrestleres that became synonimous with 'crusierwieght.' Plus he was awesome in WCW vs. NWO revenge, as previously pointed out.

Also my only exposoure to Windham was in his less than memorialable moments in the WWF in the mid 90s and WCW in the late 90s, I have heard good things about his work in the late 80s though.

[Nicky Fives]

never liked Windham..... he always had a smaller opponent that would do the majority of the work in a match.... Ultimo FTW

[James Steele]

http://www.rfgolds.com/Four%20Horseman-medium.jpg

There is no higher standard of excellence...except The Kliq.

[thecc]

Ultimo made me love watching cruiser weight matches as a kid.

[Gertner]

Went with Windham. Windham is probably one of the most under-rated wrestlers in history.

Won numerous championships, and IMO was with the Horseman in their strongest 4 some with tully, ric and arn.

[Juan]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3468

[youngkidd]

windhams a good solid wrestler but cant compete against ultimo dragon

[The Mackem]

I've only seen Windham at the point in his career where everybody was saying how he had 'lost it'. Ultimo Dragon was just awesome, except at Wrestlemania.